I'm more likely to hire someone with piercings and tattoos than someone with a dated, out of style gold stud.
LOL Thanks dude, that was a good one. I swear I don't actually wear a gold stud, I was just going for the example. Thanks much for the laugh, I added you to my friends list.
[i]Most cities in the country, outside of maybe the very heart of Seattle and then LA, New York and Chicago - you can't really even order food by phone - much less the internet.[/i]
What the heck? I've lived in several little podunk towns around Indiana, and absolutely all of them have had some sort of food delivery.
In my town of Bloomington Indiana, there are no less than ten chinese food delivery places, myriad pizza delivery places, and even a few sandwhich shops that deliver.
Heck, even when I lived in Rochester Indiana (pop. just a few thousand) there were several pizza places and a couple of chinese places that delivered. I dunno where you have lived, but folks here in Indiana, even, in many cases, out in the country, have been getting pizza and other food delivered to them since the eighties at least.
When and why the mentality took such a drastic change is just beyond me. I liked it better when the attitude was to help out a fellow computer user rather than act like a car salesman, dressing to impress when no one is and not even teaching the new hires what a 5.25 drive is so they can tell me they don't have any. If anyone can come up with an answer as to why things changed, well then your a lot more perceptive than me.
I gotta go with the A.C. on this one, friend. All that stuff happened when the business people and the lawyers found out computers could potentially make them rich.
At the same time, the users were changing from being fellow computer geeks to (by and large) well, users. Less geeks, more soccer moms.
I am with ya that it's a bummer; I miss the other dudes too. On the upside- I'm quickly turning into a greybeard myself, as are several of my friends; many of us have kept the long hair or whatever. All those dudes aren't dead yet.:)
LOL Thanks dude, that cracked me up. It's good to keep your firearm concealed during meetings, I agree. Your sword, on the other hand, should always be visible.
In a business environment you want to distract other people as little as possible, so they can do their work, focus on the problem at hand, to help make the customer feel as confortable with you as possible.
If an earring is so disruptive as to keep you from doing your work, you should probably be fired. I need people who can stay on task a little better than that, whether they wear jewelry or not. I do agree that the job is to help the customer feel at ease, but really quite a lot of us don't have to deal with customers/clients too often.
Suppose you owned a business and you were going to do a presentation to what could be the biggest client ever, would you want one of your members to look and talk exactly like Tupac, with a glock sticking in my pants just below my visible underwear?
(dripping sarcasm) You're right, bringing a firearm to a client meeting [i]is[/i] a lot like wearing an earring in an office.
I can't believe the number of posts on this site talking about how "unprofessional" even an earring on a male looks. Are we really still that wrapped up in gender identity that even a gold stud on a guy is a threat?
The arguement could be made that clients or managers could have the sort of archaic, narrow-minded ideas which would necessitate very conservative attire at the workplace; however, I don't expect so much of that attitude itself on a site where the majority of the posters are geeks. I thought we were a more open-minded lot than that.
This is the same attitude which used to force men to wear ties and women to wear dresses. It's the same attitude which made people be angry with the "long" bowl-cuts the Beatles sported when they came to the USA.
I'm not saying the attitude doesn't exist, or that you can currently do what you want and get away with it. All I'm saying is that there's no reason smart people like all of us should help it persist.
Aye. I had the Tandy 1000 TL/2, myself. Carmen Sandiego and Oregon Trail both kicked ass, and Oregon Trail was better on that 80286 than it had been on the TRS/80.
Hey Ovid, good game there man. You showed both brains and balls, which is something too many lack both of. At the very least, most folks would have sat at home waiting for the cops to "take care of" the matter.
Can you show me where I referred to 9am as "early"? I get up when I need to, just like you do. Not my problem your job keeps odd hours dude.
Oh, and just remember my friend, you too will be an almost-thirty greybeard (this is sure to ilicit responses from the oldsters lol) one of these days.:)
I have suffered the very same afflicion friend. You know what has helped me? Age. For some reason, when I hit my late twenties, I just started getting up earlier. Now, I'm usually up around nine, or even a little before, whether I have the alarm or not. I don't know why; I go to bed about the same time I always have (around 2:00am), so it's not like I'm getting more sleep or anything.
Thanks for posting "xwrits". I'll check it out. Back in the day, I had a program for Mac OS (system 7) which would (unless you "force-quit" it) hang the computer for five minutes every hour while an animation of a cigarette burning down appeared on the screen.
It was called "cigarette break" or something similar. Whether you smoke or not, it was a great time to get up and move around while the computer had a smokey-treat.
The anti-trust angle is iffy, as they are separate corporations. In order for there to be a trust, there have to be seperate corporations; otherwise, it's a monopoly, which while it is defined in the same set of laws broadly known as "anti-trust", is a different animal.
My advice: Unplug your radio. Throw away your TV. You don't NEED these assholes.
Probably the best advice in this whole thread. We most certainly do not need them. What we must do is try to find ways to support artists by doing an end-run around companies such as these. It's not like this is heating oil or gasoline. It's entertainment.
Further, I should have said "artificially inflate prices", not "raise"".
Prices should reflect what the market will bear, not what a group of intimidators decides is must bear. Any of the record companies who think that iTunes doesn't charge enough is welcome to stop distributing their songs through there, and offer their own, more expensive service.
Surely you see how quickly an industry can become mired when competitors stop competing and act as a single entity to control prices artificially.
Believe it or not, I was aware of that. Firesign Theatre is cool. I just love the lyrics to the Weird Al song of the same name, and I hope that by using it as my dig that more people will listen to his music.
Surely that's not all you can contribute to the thread, tho....
This equates to the heads of an industry (reps from the big record companies) conspiring to get retailers/distributors to artificially raise prices, contrary to what the market is doing.
One professor who teaches the "Introduction to Software Systems" class at Indiana University (which uses Java with some customized libraries to teach the basic concepts of OOP) was telling me recently how he'd love to rework the class wo he could teach it in Python, but has met with some resistance within the department.
Some folks, even in CS, are Luddites in their own way, and others simply don't want to change what they see as a system that works.
I'm with ya, tho. I'd much rather they taught the class in Python, but that's mostly because it would be more immediately useful to me.
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I'm more likely to hire someone with piercings and tattoos than someone with a dated, out of style gold stud.
LOL Thanks dude, that was a good one. I swear I don't actually wear a gold stud, I was just going for the example. Thanks much for the laugh, I added you to my friends list.
[i]Most cities in the country, outside of maybe the very heart of Seattle and then LA, New York and Chicago - you can't really even order food by phone - much less the internet.[/i]
What the heck? I've lived in several little podunk towns around Indiana, and absolutely all of them have had some sort of food delivery.
In my town of Bloomington Indiana, there are no less than ten chinese food delivery places, myriad pizza delivery places, and even a few sandwhich shops that deliver.
Heck, even when I lived in Rochester Indiana (pop. just a few thousand) there were several pizza places and a couple of chinese places that delivered. I dunno where you have lived, but folks here in Indiana, even, in many cases, out in the country, have been getting pizza and other food delivered to them since the eighties at least.
When and why the mentality took such a drastic change is just beyond me. I liked it better when the attitude was to help out a fellow computer user rather than act like a car salesman, dressing to impress when no one is and not even teaching the new hires what a 5.25 drive is so they can tell me they don't have any. If anyone can come up with an answer as to why things changed, well then your a lot more perceptive than me.
:)
I gotta go with the A.C. on this one, friend. All that stuff happened when the business people and the lawyers found out computers could potentially make them rich.
At the same time, the users were changing from being fellow computer geeks to (by and large) well, users. Less geeks, more soccer moms.
I am with ya that it's a bummer; I miss the other dudes too. On the upside- I'm quickly turning into a greybeard myself, as are several of my friends; many of us have kept the long hair or whatever. All those dudes aren't dead yet.
LOL Thanks dude, that cracked me up. It's good to keep your firearm concealed during meetings, I agree. Your sword, on the other hand, should always be visible.
In a business environment you want to distract other people as little as possible, so they can do their work, focus on the problem at hand, to help make the customer feel as confortable with you as possible.
If an earring is so disruptive as to keep you from doing your work, you should probably be fired. I need people who can stay on task a little better than that, whether they wear jewelry or not. I do agree that the job is to help the customer feel at ease, but really quite a lot of us don't have to deal with customers/clients too often.
Suppose you owned a business and you were going to do a presentation to what could be the biggest client ever, would you want one of your members to look and talk exactly like Tupac, with a glock sticking in my pants just below my visible underwear?
(dripping sarcasm) You're right, bringing a firearm to a client meeting [i]is[/i] a lot like wearing an earring in an office.
Or have your surgeon show up like that just before you are wheeled into surgery?
Why not? Maybe it's nuts, but I guess I'm more concerned with his medical skills than his fashion sense.
I can't believe the number of posts on this site talking about how "unprofessional" even an earring on a male looks. Are we really still that wrapped up in gender identity that even a gold stud on a guy is a threat?
The arguement could be made that clients or managers could have the sort of archaic, narrow-minded ideas which would necessitate very conservative attire at the workplace; however, I don't expect so much of that attitude itself on a site where the majority of the posters are geeks. I thought we were a more open-minded lot than that.
This is the same attitude which used to force men to wear ties and women to wear dresses. It's the same attitude which made people be angry with the "long" bowl-cuts the Beatles sported when they came to the USA.
I'm not saying the attitude doesn't exist, or that you can currently do what you want and get away with it. All I'm saying is that there's no reason smart people like all of us should help it persist.
In the states, RAID is a much-advertised brand of anti-insect spray.
Aye. I had the Tandy 1000 TL/2, myself. Carmen Sandiego and Oregon Trail both kicked ass, and Oregon Trail was better on that 80286 than it had been on the TRS/80.
Hey Ovid, good game there man. You showed both brains and balls, which is something too many lack both of. At the very least, most folks would have sat at home waiting for the cops to "take care of" the matter.
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Can you show me where I referred to 9am as "early"? I get up when I need to, just like you do. Not my problem your job keeps odd hours dude.
:)
Oh, and just remember my friend, you too will be an almost-thirty greybeard (this is sure to ilicit responses from the oldsters lol) one of these days.
That's better than "Daddy, Look where I went potty!"
Damn buddy, so you're saying I'm gonna go back the other way? It figures. Thanks for the heads up hehe.
I have suffered the very same afflicion friend. You know what has helped me? Age. For some reason, when I hit my late twenties, I just started getting up earlier. Now, I'm usually up around nine, or even a little before, whether I have the alarm or not. I don't know why; I go to bed about the same time I always have (around 2:00am), so it's not like I'm getting more sleep or anything.
Thanks for posting "xwrits". I'll check it out. Back in the day, I had a program for Mac OS (system 7) which would (unless you "force-quit" it) hang the computer for five minutes every hour while an animation of a cigarette burning down appeared on the screen.
It was called "cigarette break" or something similar. Whether you smoke or not, it was a great time to get up and move around while the computer had a smokey-treat.
I wish I had mod points. That was funny.
The anti-trust angle is iffy, as they are separate corporations.
In order for there to be a trust, there have to be seperate corporations; otherwise, it's a monopoly, which while it is defined in the same set of laws broadly known as "anti-trust", is a different animal.
My advice: Unplug your radio. Throw away your TV. You don't NEED these assholes.
Probably the best advice in this whole thread. We most certainly do not need them. What we must do is try to find ways to support artists by doing an end-run around companies such as these. It's not like this is heating oil or gasoline. It's entertainment.
Further, I should have said "artificially inflate prices", not "raise"".
Prices should reflect what the market will bear, not what a group of intimidators decides is must bear. Any of the record companies who think that iTunes doesn't charge enough is welcome to stop distributing their songs through there, and offer their own, more expensive service.
Surely you see how quickly an industry can become mired when competitors stop competing and act as a single entity to control prices artificially.
Believe it or not, I was aware of that. Firesign Theatre is cool. I just love the lyrics to the Weird Al song of the same name, and I hope that by using it as my dig that more people will listen to his music.
Surely that's not all you can contribute to the thread, tho....
Nice knee-jerk reaction, AC.
This equates to the heads of an industry (reps from the big record companies) conspiring to get retailers/distributors to artificially raise prices, contrary to what the market is doing.
If this isn't the very reason we have anti-trust laws here in the USA, then I don't know what is.
One professor who teaches the "Introduction to Software Systems" class at Indiana University (which uses Java with some customized libraries to teach the basic concepts of OOP) was telling me recently how he'd love to rework the class wo he could teach it in Python, but has met with some resistance within the department.
Some folks, even in CS, are Luddites in their own way, and others simply don't want to change what they see as a system that works.
I'm with ya, tho. I'd much rather they taught the class in Python, but that's mostly because it would be more immediately useful to me.
I was just thinking that I feel pretty old now. Anybody else been geeky long enough to remember when IBM was the big bad bully?
It's cool, but I'd never, ever have that kind of patience.
I thought it was funny dude, sorry I don't have mod points.