You don't hear too many Photoshop 1.0 users complaining about the lack of Camera RAW support, or Windows 3.1 users lamenting the paltry selection of video codecs.
People who use older software when there is newer, safer, more feature-rich options that are free have absolutely nothing to bitch about.
Turns out the Nazi party was involved in some very bad things a long time ago, so to prevent our children from being exposed to such hateful thoughts or ideas that might scar them for life and expose them to lawsuits, Apple has decided to ban all apps involving Nazis.
Simply pathetic. Like a dog that keeps licking one spot on its body until all the fur has come off, that keeps licking until soon enough the skin is blistering and sore, and you have to take the dog to a vet whereby it wraps its head in a giant paper cup--effectively preventing the dog from being such a fucking idiot.
And you just look at the stupid mutt, desperately trying to circumvent the stupid head-in-cup and get a couple more licks in, and you yell at it, "What in the hell!? Why are you so goddamned stupid!?"
Just as with Linux, your single anecdote of having it work out of the box doesn't mean that it does not have problems with hardware support in general.
No, you're right. But I have to say I was pleasantly surprised after all the reflexive FUD that people had been spouting off about lack of driver support, like a knee-jerk reaction based on seeing everyone else's knee-jerk reaction. In my experience, XP64 is the best OS Microsoft has released since Windows 2000. Fast, low resource overhead, with support for all the latest-and-greatest "must-have's" (wireless support, directx 9, etc.) There's no similarly compelling "must-have" for Win7, save for the fact that it doesn't suck as much as Vista.
That hasn't been my experience at all, which makes me think you're talking out of your ass and not from any actual experience.
My Wacom tablet, colorometer, video card, 16-port RAID card, wireless USB network adapter, USB sound (server MB)... even my Frankenstein motherboard with dual PCIe and PCI-X slots... all supported.
In fact, the only manufacturer that I've had trouble with is Nikon, but they don't support any MS 64-bit OS (XP, Vista, or Win7).
So, please tell me what peripherals you can't get XP64 drivers for, but have no problems finding Vista 64 drivers.
Eh, if it's a dealbreaker for you... fine, don't buy it.
Well, that's the problem. They don't exactly go out of their way to tell you they don't support modern operating systems. If they were honest about their system requirements, or put something on the box explicitly indicating NO 64-BIT SUPPORT or the like, then I might understand.
But they don't. Which is precisely the reason I bring it up whenever there's a Nikon thread.
This is bad because if one item is removed, everything to the right of it gets shuffled up or down.
Ever get the feeling the person who wrote that part of the app never even tested this particular feature? Because that's one of those things that would be instantly recognizable and universally agreed-upon as a UI fuck-up.
Until they get their act together and pull their heads out of the sand with regard to 64-bit support, I will continue to recommend that people stay far away from Nikon.
The Nuremberg defendants were charged with crimes against humanity - and, and among the specific changes, the crime of institutionalized murder on an industrial scale. That is why the defense of "just following orders" does not work. They were the ones giving the orders.
(Emphasis mine).
This makes no sense.
Does the "just following orders" defense not work because the magnitude of the crime, or does the defense not work because "they were the ones giving the orders?" You need to pick one. Or, if both are the reason, you need to put the second clause before the phrase "that is why" or it doesn't make any fucking sense.
(Incidentally, the people claiming to have been following orders during the Nuremberg trials were not the ones giving the orders. I mean, just how fucking stupid is that? "I'm sorry, your honor, but I was just following my own orders.")
I think the knee-jerk assumption when you read about a large, American company building products that can maim or kill their users, then attempting to stifle free speech to protect their bottom line, is that it's a U.S.-centric story.
Mostly because other first-world countries don't have our (U.S.) level of legalistic crazy-stupid.
The newer sheet metal bodies aren't made thin as hell because steel is ridiculously expensive, but because there is a great need to reduce weight and expense due to all the required plastic and electronic bullshit.
Interesting, I hadn't thought of that but you raise a good point. And I agree with you that fuel economy isn't the primary concern, considering the slant-six (released in 1960) could get 30 mpg and could survive hundreds of thousands of miles.
At the time the Constitution was written, the definition of the term "jury" referred to a group of citizens empowered to judge both the law and the evidence in the case before it. Then, in the February term of 1794, the Supreme Court conducted a jury trial in the case of the State of Georgia vs. Brailsford. The instructions to the jury in the first jury trial before the Supreme Court of the United States illustrate the true power of the jury. Chief Justice John Jay said: "It is presumed, that juries are the best judges of facts; it is, on the other hand, presumed that courts are the best judges of law. But still both objects are within your power of decision." (emphasis added) "...you have a right to take it upon yourselves to judge of both, and to determine the law as well as the fact in controversy".
[...] the question is, if it were legal to build a 1950s car, but with modern tools, how much cheaper would it be than the Civic? I bet it would be a lot.
I bet it wouldn't. The cost of materials--specifically steel--have gone up since the 50s. This is part of the reason most modern cars are junk that won't last half as long as a car built before the 70s: thin sheet metal and too many plastic parts. These days manufacturers use a much thinner gauge (~22 for panels) than fifty years ago (~18 gauge). Additionally, it's a lot cheaper to tool a production line for plastic parts.
Please note that this doesn't take into account the higher cost of labor, but that wasn't part of your initial statement ("1950s car with modern tools").
Bitlocker encrypted volumes have distinct signatures. With Truecrypt, the encrypted partition is completely hidden. If I'm walking down the street with a suitcase full of hundred dollar bills, I'd rather not have a giant sign attached saying "MONEY HERE."
XP does not have a two-way firewall by default. It was a half-assed implementation.
That's true. Of course, Microsoft could have handled that with a Service Pack, but I understand that's not your point.
Winkey+F is in no way a replacement for instant search.
Again, hammer in search of a nail. When I'm programming, I use my IDE's search. Photos are already arranged in a sensible directory structure, same as the 4 TB of movies and music. I suppose if you have a veritable rat's nest of files that you don't keep in any organized pattern, then yeah, searching meta-data and text content might be of use to you.
The drivers are automatically downloaded transparently whereas XP it can involve clickthroughs.
Oh, come on.
The compatibility argument is a red herring too -- for one, many XP drivers actually do run in Win7, and for another, many Win7 drivers don't run XP, so what's your point.
My point is, why upgrade? The drivers people already have for XP are presumably working just fine. There's nothing broke about them that need fixing.
Not with table-layout: auto (which is the default behavior). If you use table-layout: fixed it will dramatically reduce the render time, but you will have to specify the column widths (using the little-known COLGROUP tag).
One thing you can do to improve rendering speeds on auto-layout tables is to follow the W3C's spec and declare your footer before the body (so... THEAD, TFOOT, TBODY).
Built-in transparent full-volume encryption is pretty cool
Except it's Microsoft's typically half-assed implementation. Anyone needing real volume encryption these days uses TrueCrypt. Except, hey look! Microsoft done broke TC full-disk encryption with Windows 7. Surprise, surprise.
Strong two-way firewall with good configurability means no more spending time and possibly money on third-party firewalls.
Already found in XP.
I simply can't stand to use XP for any length of time due to the simple fact that it lacks this incredibly convenient feature (which every other major OS has as well).
Windows Key + "F"
This, I probably don't have to mention, has been available in Windows since... well, a looong time.
WinXP's plug-and-play driver collection is horrifically outdated
How's that, again? What's the great big awesome advantage of Win7's driver model? Drivers available on the net? Sorry, you can do this already in XP. Signed drivers? XP. But how about compatibility? Will older XP drivers work in Windows 7? Naturally not! So, throw all your old hardware out the window unless there's built-in support, because lord knows there's no way your hardware vendor will update drivers for older hardware you've already bought.
Windows 7 is a hammer in a desperate, almost manic search of a nail.
Windows Shell is indeed pretty cool, but there are two huge drawbacks:
1. It's an island unto itself. Any (practical) networking utilities require commandlets (or whatever in the hell they're calling them). So, no native SSH, no native SFTP. Oh, it natively supports BITS (background transfer). How useful.
2. It's slow as dogshit covered in molasses rolling up a sandpaper hill. It positively reeks of.NET in all the worst ways.
Well, that's not entirely true. You can use a handful of nested DIVs and another handful of CSS hacks to play nice with IE and get something very close to what used to work out-of-the-box with tables.
But wait, it gets worse! If you make the mistake of adding a valid DOCTYPE to your HTML, you can't even use tables for layouts (at least, not 100% height/width layouts).
HTML is a giant, festering boil of suck. You can't even just blame Microsoft; Mozilla has its own stupidities (-moz-css-properties, anyone?), and the W3C has its head stuck so far up its sanctimonious thou-shalt-not-use-layout ass that it will probably be another decade before it's all sorted out.
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You don't hear too many Photoshop 1.0 users complaining about the lack of Camera RAW support, or Windows 3.1 users lamenting the paltry selection of video codecs.
People who use older software when there is newer, safer, more feature-rich options that are free have absolutely nothing to bitch about.
As you say... fuck 'em.
Turns out the Nazi party was involved in some very bad things a long time ago, so to prevent our children from being exposed to such hateful thoughts or ideas that might scar them for life and expose them to lawsuits, Apple has decided to ban all apps involving Nazis.
That includes soup apps.
Ahhh, the power of It Just Works.
No, no. You're saying it wrong.
It just works.
There, that's better.
Simply pathetic. Like a dog that keeps licking one spot on its body until all the fur has come off, that keeps licking until soon enough the skin is blistering and sore, and you have to take the dog to a vet whereby it wraps its head in a giant paper cup--effectively preventing the dog from being such a fucking idiot.
And you just look at the stupid mutt, desperately trying to circumvent the stupid head-in-cup and get a couple more licks in, and you yell at it, "What in the hell!? Why are you so goddamned stupid!?"
That's what this is like.
Just as with Linux, your single anecdote of having it work out of the box doesn't mean that it does not have problems with hardware support in general.
No, you're right. But I have to say I was pleasantly surprised after all the reflexive FUD that people had been spouting off about lack of driver support, like a knee-jerk reaction based on seeing everyone else's knee-jerk reaction. In my experience, XP64 is the best OS Microsoft has released since Windows 2000. Fast, low resource overhead, with support for all the latest-and-greatest "must-have's" (wireless support, directx 9, etc.) There's no similarly compelling "must-have" for Win7, save for the fact that it doesn't suck as much as Vista.
That hasn't been my experience at all, which makes me think you're talking out of your ass and not from any actual experience.
My Wacom tablet, colorometer, video card, 16-port RAID card, wireless USB network adapter, USB sound (server MB)... even my Frankenstein motherboard with dual PCIe and PCI-X slots... all supported.
In fact, the only manufacturer that I've had trouble with is Nikon, but they don't support any MS 64-bit OS (XP, Vista, or Win7).
So, please tell me what peripherals you can't get XP64 drivers for, but have no problems finding Vista 64 drivers.
Eh, if it's a dealbreaker for you... fine, don't buy it.
Well, that's the problem. They don't exactly go out of their way to tell you they don't support modern operating systems. If they were honest about their system requirements, or put something on the box explicitly indicating NO 64-BIT SUPPORT or the like, then I might understand.
But they don't. Which is precisely the reason I bring it up whenever there's a Nikon thread.
It saves to an SD card.
Great! Except when you want to shoot tethered. Then you discover their Control Pro software doesn't work.
So... you were saying?
Can I just get XP that can use more that 3 point whatever G of ram?
Windows XP Professional, x64 Edition.
Released nearly five years ago.
This is bad because if one item is removed, everything to the right of it gets shuffled up or down.
Ever get the feeling the person who wrote that part of the app never even tested this particular feature? Because that's one of those things that would be instantly recognizable and universally agreed-upon as a UI fuck-up.
So, will this be yet another in a long, illustrious line of great products that Nikon refuses to make 64-bit drivers for?
Until they get their act together and pull their heads out of the sand with regard to 64-bit support, I will continue to recommend that people stay far away from Nikon.
(angry Nikon owner)
It just is not fair. Kids today aren't entitled, they are screwed over.
Well stop complaining and start breaking things, for Christ's sake.
The Nuremberg defendants were charged with crimes against humanity - and, and among the specific changes, the crime of institutionalized murder on an industrial scale. That is why the defense of "just following orders" does not work. They were the ones giving the orders.
(Emphasis mine).
This makes no sense.
Does the "just following orders" defense not work because the magnitude of the crime, or does the defense not work because "they were the ones giving the orders?" You need to pick one. Or, if both are the reason, you need to put the second clause before the phrase "that is why" or it doesn't make any fucking sense.
(Incidentally, the people claiming to have been following orders during the Nuremberg trials were not the ones giving the orders. I mean, just how fucking stupid is that? "I'm sorry, your honor, but I was just following my own orders.")
Yes because unjustly incarcerating a person is the same as murdering thousands of people in cold blood.
It's not the same. It's analogous. As in, analogy. In your example, the common element is injustice.
For example, riding a bike is analogous to driving a car. Both are machines used for human transport. That doesn't mean they're the same .
They never should have gotten rid of the analogies on the SAT.
What has America got to do with this story?
I think the knee-jerk assumption when you read about a large, American company building products that can maim or kill their users, then attempting to stifle free speech to protect their bottom line, is that it's a U.S.-centric story.
Mostly because other first-world countries don't have our (U.S.) level of legalistic crazy-stupid.
Idiot, illiterate mods. If he had read and understood the book he wouldn't have bothered with the lawsuit. Winston loved Big Brother at the end.
The newer sheet metal bodies aren't made thin as hell because steel is ridiculously expensive, but because there is a great need to reduce weight and expense due to all the required plastic and electronic bullshit.
Interesting, I hadn't thought of that but you raise a good point. And I agree with you that fuel economy isn't the primary concern, considering the slant-six (released in 1960) could get 30 mpg and could survive hundreds of thousands of miles.
Busy now so I won't bother posting links.
Key quote from www.fija.org link:
[...] the question is, if it were legal to build a 1950s car, but with modern tools, how much cheaper would it be than the Civic? I bet it would be a lot.
I bet it wouldn't. The cost of materials--specifically steel--have gone up since the 50s. This is part of the reason most modern cars are junk that won't last half as long as a car built before the 70s: thin sheet metal and too many plastic parts. These days manufacturers use a much thinner gauge (~22 for panels) than fifty years ago (~18 gauge). Additionally, it's a lot cheaper to tool a production line for plastic parts.
Please note that this doesn't take into account the higher cost of labor, but that wasn't part of your initial statement ("1950s car with modern tools").
Be more specific about what makes it half-assed.
Bitlocker encrypted volumes have distinct signatures. With Truecrypt, the encrypted partition is completely hidden. If I'm walking down the street with a suitcase full of hundred dollar bills, I'd rather not have a giant sign attached saying "MONEY HERE."
XP does not have a two-way firewall by default. It was a half-assed implementation.
That's true. Of course, Microsoft could have handled that with a Service Pack, but I understand that's not your point.
Winkey+F is in no way a replacement for instant search.
Again, hammer in search of a nail. When I'm programming, I use my IDE's search. Photos are already arranged in a sensible directory structure, same as the 4 TB of movies and music. I suppose if you have a veritable rat's nest of files that you don't keep in any organized pattern, then yeah, searching meta-data and text content might be of use to you.
The drivers are automatically downloaded transparently whereas XP it can involve clickthroughs.
Oh, come on.
The compatibility argument is a red herring too -- for one, many XP drivers actually do run in Win7, and for another, many Win7 drivers don't run XP, so what's your point.
My point is, why upgrade? The drivers people already have for XP are presumably working just fine. There's nothing broke about them that need fixing.
Not with table-layout: auto (which is the default behavior). If you use table-layout: fixed it will dramatically reduce the render time, but you will have to specify the column widths (using the little-known COLGROUP tag).
One thing you can do to improve rendering speeds on auto-layout tables is to follow the W3C's spec and declare your footer before the body (so... THEAD, TFOOT, TBODY).
Built-in transparent full-volume encryption is pretty cool
Except it's Microsoft's typically half-assed implementation. Anyone needing real volume encryption these days uses TrueCrypt. Except, hey look! Microsoft done broke TC full-disk encryption with Windows 7. Surprise, surprise.
Strong two-way firewall with good configurability means no more spending time and possibly money on third-party firewalls.
Already found in XP.
I simply can't stand to use XP for any length of time due to the simple fact that it lacks this incredibly convenient feature (which every other major OS has as well).
Windows Key + "F"
This, I probably don't have to mention, has been available in Windows since... well, a looong time.
WinXP's plug-and-play driver collection is horrifically outdated
How's that, again? What's the great big awesome advantage of Win7's driver model? Drivers available on the net? Sorry, you can do this already in XP. Signed drivers? XP. But how about compatibility? Will older XP drivers work in Windows 7? Naturally not! So, throw all your old hardware out the window unless there's built-in support, because lord knows there's no way your hardware vendor will update drivers for older hardware you've already bought.
Windows 7 is a hammer in a desperate, almost manic search of a nail.
The hardware requirements are undeniably higher
Hahahaha... I love this part!
Windows Shell is indeed pretty cool, but there are two huge drawbacks:
1. It's an island unto itself. Any (practical) networking utilities require commandlets (or whatever in the hell they're calling them). So, no native SSH, no native SFTP. Oh, it natively supports BITS (background transfer). How useful.
2. It's slow as dogshit covered in molasses rolling up a sandpaper hill. It positively reeks of .NET in all the worst ways.
Those Autobot fender badges are going to get stolen faster than a Chic bass line.
But what's the widely compatible alternative?
There isn't.
Well, that's not entirely true. You can use a handful of nested DIVs and another handful of CSS hacks to play nice with IE and get something very close to what used to work out-of-the-box with tables.
But wait, it gets worse! If you make the mistake of adding a valid DOCTYPE to your HTML, you can't even use tables for layouts (at least, not 100% height/width layouts).
HTML is a giant, festering boil of suck. You can't even just blame Microsoft; Mozilla has its own stupidities (-moz-css-properties, anyone?), and the W3C has its head stuck so far up its sanctimonious thou-shalt-not-use-layout ass that it will probably be another decade before it's all sorted out.