Because then it'd make it look like the US was retaliating without making sure who did it, which makes the US look bad.
Argh! The whole point of the U.S. taking revenge would be to maintain the "we're america and we dont take any shit" aditude of the american people! How would it do any good to retaliate and not tell people?!
I don't think many people in the world would find it feasable that the the U.S. would retaliate in a low-profile manner. The BBC didn't; they attributed the bombings there to "continued civil war" (not everyone there is down with the taliban).
I think when (if?) revenge is taken we'll all hear about it. Thats the whole point of it!
To quote your original post:
Most Arabs ARE TO BLAME!!!
Not "most arab nations" but "most arabs".
Imagine you are an arab living in the U.S.. You love America, and you are saddened by the attacks.
None of that will be taken into account when people direct their anger over this event toward you. Millions of Americans, just like jmccay, will hate you simply because you are arab.
I wouldn't be surprised if race riots break out in the next few days. A local junior college here in sunny northern california is littered with anti-arab papers. One car even had "Bomb Isreal" [?!wtf!?] written on the back window.
Your guilty-by-association aditude will help foster this atmosphere of hate. I hope you're proud of yourself.
How can you make such a broad generalization as "arab people"?
I mean, white people (i'm assuming by your arogant-white-guy aditude that you are an arogant white guy) have done some pretty horrible things throughout history. So would it be OK to say "any white country that does nothing is guilty of Terrorism"?
Thats the aditude of the terrorists that did this.
You are no better than them, but I won't condem ALL white people because you are a jackass. Wake up!
(i would quote the parent post but its quite lengthy and I don't want to make the page that much longer for this crap. Read the parent post if interested.)
cnn.com, now back online, is going for the barebones look today too. One image per page, nothing else but text. There is zero content that isn't related to today's events. And there aren't any ads!
I'm sure in a few hours when the excitment dies down cnn will be back online, full force, with ads, javascripts, and all that we expect of a corporate news site.
Seriously, this event puts 99% of american's in the same camp. Everyone seems to "support W" on this. Tragedy brings us together as a nation, for better or for worse. And if the U.S. is successfull is exacting some sort of revenge, the credit will undoubtedly fall (at least somehwhat) to GWB.
I know for a fact that there is a sizable population of Palestinian and Middle Eastern immigrants living and working in NYC.:(
First off, they probably consider any of their people living in the evil-empire-usa traitors to the cause. Second, these guys are suicide bombers (i'm guessing here, but someone had to fly those planes so I think its a safe guess) anyway. I'm sure they think they are shedding blood for some magical entity like 'god' or something and a few of their own people mixed into the carnage probably doesn't even bother them.
This type of massacre is not the way to earn my sympathy or catch my ear.
Exactly. Even if the group behind this ever had a chance of making friendly with the US, they have lost that chance now. They've gained nothing but the hatred of the American people. They've raillied (american) public support for military action against themselves, something that once would have been difficult.
Linus could have said the same thing to himself in 1991. UNIX at the time, as most people seem to forget these days, was in a downward slide that started in the mid 1980s.
Linus made a difference by making his OS open source.
To quote the PetrOS FAQ: We are open to selected developers or OEMs having access to source code under suitable licensing conditions. Some selected parts of the user layers will be open sourced.
This is not an open source operating system. This is a tiny windows compatibility layer on top of a small kernel written in Object Pascal.
...they have a good chance of being able to run most of the programs that are written to run on multiple MS OSes in the first place. Examples are IE, Office, and most of the Windows Accessories and Games that MS doesn't recompile to use new features everytime the API changes.
OK, so I'm a manager at company X. Do I want to deploy Windows, with corporate support from the well-known M$? Or do I want to use a look-alike OS, WindowsLight if you will, written by some has-been's of the internet revolution who say their project will run "most" windows apps?
Linux offers a lot that windows can't. What does PetrOS offer? A fast startup time and low memory usage aren't enough for most people to buy a new OS.
And why the fsck are they using Pascal?!!! Would it have been that hard to port the old winsock code over to cpp? And source will be open to "select partners" only? Sorry, peter, but fuck shared source.
I'm not trying to troll here; I read the interview and a bit from the PetrOS official site and I just can't take this too seriously.
The question doesn't mention what platform they want to run the games on, but on the *slim* chance its macs I'd sugest JumpZampoli. It's a non violent and somewhat addictive game.
The big difference (besides budget and staff etc etc) is that this project is open-source, unlike the BeOS, so it won't just 'end' one day when a PDA company buys it's parent company's IP rights.
'If I ever start killing people, it would most likely be in protest against the attitude of peace advocates.' Just because some GPL fanatics say stupid things, does it mean GPL is bad? Not seeing the logic here...
Your comparison places killing people in the same place as using a non-GPL liscense. Would this be one of those examples of GPL fanatics saying stupid things? Must be...
Take a look at the other non "mainstream" alternate OSes that are developed by a committee or group of developers and compare their progress to AtheOS. Then you can decide whether talking about implementing or implementing is the most efficient way to develop something:) (from the article above)
Wow. This guy has some strong feelings! But hey, it's his project and he certainly has done a lot considering its a one-man deal. I guess different development styles work better for different people...
Slashdot Mirror
Do you have any facts to back that up?
Though I doubt it was them, I'm pretty sure China could have pulled this off.
DoS attacking taliban sites
Is that a weak attempt at a joke? Or do you really think there are taliban websites?
Because then it'd make it look like the US was retaliating without making sure who did it, which makes the US look bad.
Argh! The whole point of the U.S. taking revenge would be to maintain the "we're america and we dont take any shit" aditude of the american people! How would it do any good to retaliate and not tell people?!
I don't think many people in the world would find it feasable that the the U.S. would retaliate in a low-profile manner. The BBC didn't; they attributed the bombings there to "continued civil war" (not everyone there is down with the taliban).
I think when (if?) revenge is taken we'll all hear about it. Thats the whole point of it!
If you were Bin Laden, wouldn't you be imitating an American airstrike at this point?
Actually, no. Please tell: Why would he want to do that?
To quote your original post:
Most Arabs ARE TO BLAME!!!
Not "most arab nations" but "most arabs".
Imagine you are an arab living in the U.S.. You love America, and you are saddened by the attacks.
None of that will be taken into account when people direct their anger over this event toward you. Millions of Americans, just like jmccay, will hate you simply because you are arab.
I wouldn't be surprised if race riots break out in the next few days. A local junior college here in sunny northern california is littered with anti-arab papers. One car even had "Bomb Isreal" [?!wtf!?] written on the back window.
Your guilty-by-association aditude will help foster this atmosphere of hate. I hope you're proud of yourself.
Somehow the terrorist attacks have drawn interest away from his story! Amazing...
How can you make such a broad generalization as "arab people"?
I mean, white people (i'm assuming by your arogant-white-guy aditude that you are an arogant white guy) have done some pretty horrible things throughout history. So would it be OK to say "any white country that does nothing is guilty of Terrorism"?
Thats the aditude of the terrorists that did this.
You are no better than them, but I won't condem ALL white people because you are a jackass. Wake up!
(i would quote the parent post but its quite lengthy and I don't want to make the page that much longer for this crap. Read the parent post if interested.)
Don't worry though, because it's most likely misinformation.
http://slashdot.org/~merlin_jim/
This guy always has an "inside connection".
He's also, imho, full of excrement.
cnn.com, now back online, is going for the barebones look today too. One image per page, nothing else but text. There is zero content that isn't related to today's events. And there aren't any ads!
I'm sure in a few hours when the excitment dies down cnn will be back online, full force, with ads, javascripts, and all that we expect of a corporate news site.
Shock ... then grief ... then anger...
...to continue...
then hatred.... then unity...
Seriously, this event puts 99% of american's in the same camp. Everyone seems to "support W" on this. Tragedy brings us together as a nation, for better or for worse. And if the U.S. is successfull is exacting some sort of revenge, the credit will undoubtedly fall (at least somehwhat) to GWB.
they hate us, too... wonderful.
Maybe its because they're tired of having the Israelis kill they're people with the complete backing of the U.S. Or maybe they're just assholes.
Think like a terrorist for a minute, and ask yourself how you would attack the SV if you wanted to
With an EMP device of some sort I'd imagine.
I know for a fact that there is a sizable population of Palestinian and Middle Eastern immigrants living and working in NYC. :(
First off, they probably consider any of their people living in the evil-empire-usa traitors to the cause.
Second, these guys are suicide bombers (i'm guessing here, but someone had to fly those planes so I think its a safe guess) anyway. I'm sure they think they are shedding blood for some magical entity like 'god' or something and a few of their own people mixed into the carnage probably doesn't even bother them.
This type of massacre is not the way to earn my sympathy or catch my ear.
Exactly. Even if the group behind this ever had a chance of making friendly with the US, they have lost that chance now. They've gained nothing but the hatred of the American people. They've raillied (american) public support for military action against themselves, something that once would have been difficult.
Linus could have said the same thing to himself in 1991. UNIX at the time, as most people seem to forget these days, was in a downward slide that started in the mid 1980s.
Linus made a difference by making his OS open source.
To quote the PetrOS FAQ:
We are open to selected developers or OEMs having access to source code under suitable licensing conditions. Some selected parts of the user layers will be open sourced.
This is not an open source operating system.
This is a tiny windows compatibility layer on top of a small kernel written in Object Pascal.
...they have a good chance of being able to run most of the programs that are written to run on multiple MS OSes in the first place. Examples are IE, Office, and most of the Windows Accessories and Games that MS doesn't recompile to use new features everytime the API changes.
OK, so I'm a manager at company X. Do I want to deploy Windows, with corporate support from the well-known M$? Or do I want to use a look-alike OS, WindowsLight if you will, written by some has-been's of the internet revolution who say their project will run "most" windows apps?
Linux offers a lot that windows can't. What does PetrOS offer? A fast startup time and low memory usage aren't enough for most people to buy a new OS.
And why the fsck are they using Pascal?!!! Would it have been that hard to port the old winsock code over to cpp?
And source will be open to "select partners" only? Sorry, peter, but fuck shared source.
I'm not trying to troll here; I read the interview and a bit from the PetrOS official site and I just can't take this too seriously.
...and I forgot the link: http://www.rampzamp.com/
should've previewed, i know....
See, a 3d printer is exactly what I've been needing all these years!
A personal transporter is next on my list...
Whats incredible is that this stuff (well the 'replicator' anyway) is actually starting to happen.
The question doesn't mention what platform they want to run the games on, but on the *slim* chance its macs I'd sugest JumpZampoli. It's a non violent and somewhat addictive game.
Figure half lost to taxes
Thats just the problem... he wasn't so good with the taxes. In fact, I think he owes enough that coming back really isn't an option.
...but I think the super-dope screen is the biggest selling point for many people.
I just hope it doesn't end up like BeOS...
The big difference (besides budget and staff etc etc) is that this project is open-source, unlike the BeOS, so it won't just 'end' one day when a PDA company buys it's parent company's IP rights.
Fucking fuckers.
Your comparison places killing people in the same place as using a non-GPL liscense.
Would this be one of those examples of GPL fanatics saying stupid things? Must be...
The most interesting detail here is that between 0.1.4 and 0.2.0 I rewrote the GUI to use floating point instead of integers to describe coordinates
He doesn't elaborate on why. Any ideas on why a desktop OS needs floating point coordinates in it's GUI?
Take a look at the other non "mainstream" alternate OSes that are developed by a committee or group of developers and compare their progress to AtheOS. Then you can decide whether talking about implementing or implementing is the most efficient way to develop something :)
(from the article above)
Wow. This guy has some strong feelings! But hey, it's his project and he certainly has done a lot considering its a one-man deal. I guess different development styles work better for different people...