Whatever format this CD uses, I can't see Sony etc scrambling to follow this. Joe User is at least more receptive to privacy concerns than intellectual property issues.
Sony is in an interesting position, because they are a record company AND make a line of portable mp3 players.
Formats like the one mentioned in this article are inherently incompatible with mp3 players. Sony, being a large record label, seems to be placing bets on both sides of the free music battle. (yes, I realize you can use a sony mp3 player to play music you paid for.... but you and me and sony all know that playing mp3's off the net is a big appeal for consumers)
First: It's Cool that linux has support for a buzzword before windoze.
That being said, usb2 is just Intel wishing they had gotten on the firewire bandwagon early on. It's on 80mbps faster than FireWire, and doesn't have any serious advantages. FireWire is here for a while, and when it is replaced it will be by something a lot faster than usb2.
This article is a challenge to engineers, managers, executives and software users (which is everyone)
Lets be fair now. Some people actually don't use software (or computer technology of any sort). Of course, no one any of us know.... but i'm sure such people exist!
Its explained here to some extent. That story claims its because Maryland has a law (that microsoft helped to pass) which is incompatible with the passport legal B.S.
? You have to separate the security problems of Hotmail (which is a Passport client) from the Passport service.
I don't see it that way. If my hotmail password (passport password) is compromised due to hotmail's security issues, my passport account is essentially useless.
I already replied to your post, but I forgot to address the above sentence. Yahoo has already done it! A "Yahoo ID" can be used in as many places as a M$ passport, if not more.
For instance, if you setup a "Yahoo Wallet" with your yahoo id, that info (name, creditcard, and billing info) can be used on any of the thousands of independent e-stores that run their backend through store.yahoo.com. The same login/pass also works on any of the yahoo sites (stocks, chat, mail, myYahoo portal, travel, the list goes on).
I still don't think this is a good idea, but I'd rather give my info to Yahoo than M$. And no, I'm not just saying that because I hate bill gates; I've dealt with Yahoo Inc quite a bit (namely from running one of said store sites) and rather like the company.
I don't know about many other people, but I don't think too many people would have an e-mail account on a service such as Passport if it was going to contain highly sensitive material. I use services like this as "spam e-mails" so that I can sign up for things that require an e-mail address (but some websites won't even let you sign up with an e-mail like Passport or Hotmail, anyways).
Sure, my current passport account is filled with bogus info and is mostly used for hotmail and sometimes msn communities. But the idea is that the passport login will be required for more legit/official uses such as the MSN HomeAdvisor, financial sites, and maybe even ecommerce. Sites that you'd ordinarily give real info to will soon be using passport. And that sucks.
So these privacy groups get worried about Microsoft's Passport leaking information when the biggest leaks of personal info are from fallen dotcoms and stupid e-commerce web sites? People, when you are paranoid, at least be paranoid to everybody, not just to Microsoft.
"fallen" dotcoms are, by definition, no longer in bussiness. Complaining about them won't do any good. Microsoft, on the other hand, is very much in bussiness. Their passport service has a bad track record. There is no indication that microsoft has made any major changes in response to the barrage of criticism it has received. It's growing, and in the future you will undoubtedly see more sites where a passport login is required for certain features. That is why its important to be paranoid about this threat now.
Having all your information stored in one central location is definitely better than having all your information stored all over the place.
I disagree. Just because I am truthfull when entering my age on one site doesn't mean I want to be on another site. If both ask for my age, and both use passport, I'd have to use two passport accounts to achive my age-deception! And that defeats the whole purpose.
Age is just a trivial example. What info (and how much info) most people give out varies greatly between sites. How does it benefit me, the end user, to have all my info in one place? I can remember passwords, so that one-password argument is no good.
And, even if I wanted one place for all my info, M$ would be the last company I would want to administer it.
I'm not sure if this is accurate, but most stores stopped allowing returned media(including music, videos, software, etc) except for a direct exchange of a identical media. I guess its to combat piracy.
Yep. I don't know of any software or music stores that will give you credit or moneyback for an opened product.
An interesting note though: Barnes and Noble sells several software titles, as well a slew of boks with included cd's (often containing commercial/promotional software that would otherwise have to be paid for). Their return policy actually allows you to return the box (or book w/cd) even if it has clearly been opened. I guess they didn't think about it since they are in the bussiness of selling books. I'm sure it won't last long though...
Well, there are already 300 comments but I don't think anyone has addressed this yet so here goes:
(from the article) Try and find an agnostic view of Linux or MacOS. The sites which cover them are in the business of preaching to the converted. While Mac evangelism is as silly as worshiping a dead Sci-fi writer, Linux evangelism seems to expect everyone to rely on the belief of miracles with no further evidence needed.
The author complains nobody is agnostic about macs & linux. Two sentences later, he is taking a very non-agnostic view himself. I think when he says he wishes people would take an "agnostic" view about platforms he doesn't like, he means they should agree with him. And he's not agnostic about it at all, obviously.
Even though astro-turfing is clearly unethical (and maybe even ilegal), are you telling me you wouldn't take a job reading slashdot all day? Even it it required you to make pro-MS posts from time to time?
MS Astro-turfers: If there are any openings over there, drop me a line! I've got/. reading+posting experience and I can lie through my teeth about whatever you guys are pushing this week (or next).
Just like people dialing a wrong number are stealing your time and resources. But part of the deal in having a phone that other peopls can call you on is that OTHER PEOPLE CAN CALL YOU.
Poor analogy. If someone calls your number once or twice by accident then its OK. Several thousand times, on purpose, for their gain.... it becomes harrasment.
The technique this article is talking about won't cause just 'a few' stray packets. It would have to send a LOT of bogus packets. I don't know the technical details, but if they spread it out evenly enough that each machine only had to deal with a very small number of seemly stray packets, they could probably get away with it. Especially if all their target/host machines were high-traffic servers to begin with.
The front page caching is pretty screwed up here too (NS 4.7x on Solaris) - the P2P article has been displayed as 3 of 8 comments for an hour or so now, which definitely doesn't match the actual story. Did somebody's perl cron job choke?:)
The slashdot front page has been odd all day. This story has been up for quite some time, and after a reload the front page still just says "Read More" and doesn't list it as having attached comments. I have my config setup to send me a message when I get replies to my posts, and that hasn't been happening either. I've seen a couple replies today and the front page still says "0 new messages".
funny, the/. descussion about evolution bugs turns to a discussion about/. bugs...
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>Yes!
apple IS trying to push their *nix desktop OS afterall;-)
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A double-hater! Is there a website with info on how to become a member, or is this "legion" an unofficial group?
Whatever format this CD uses, I can't see Sony etc scrambling to follow this. Joe User is at least more receptive to privacy concerns than intellectual property issues.
Sony is in an interesting position, because they are a record company AND make a line of portable mp3 players.
Formats like the one mentioned in this article are inherently incompatible with mp3 players. Sony, being a large record label, seems to be placing bets on both sides of the free music battle.
(yes, I realize you can use a sony mp3 player to play music you paid for.... but you and me and sony all know that playing mp3's off the net is a big appeal for consumers)
Wow. It wasn't long ago that HP split off a peice of itself into Agilent.
First: It's Cool that linux has support for a buzzword before windoze.
;-)
That being said, usb2 is just Intel wishing they had gotten on the firewire bandwagon early on. It's on 80mbps faster than FireWire, and doesn't have any serious advantages. FireWire is here for a while, and when it is replaced it will be by something a lot faster than usb2.
But thats just my opinion, I could be wrong.
This article is a challenge to engineers, managers, executives and software users (which is everyone)
Lets be fair now. Some people actually don't use software (or computer technology of any sort).
Of course, no one any of us know.... but i'm sure such people exist!
There's no mention of any customer at all. Are we taking potshots at MS for absolutely no reason now? There's no connection here at all.
/. post either!
Or are YOU assuming 'Bill' refers to Bill Gates? There is no mention of MS in the
yea the price is wrong too... the article says $160m not $80m.
The reasons are complicated, and IANAL.
Its explained here to some extent. That story claims its because Maryland has a law (that microsoft helped to pass) which is incompatible with the passport legal B.S.
? You have to separate the security problems of Hotmail (which is a Passport client) from the Passport service.
I don't see it that way. If my hotmail password (passport password) is compromised due to hotmail's security issues, my passport account is essentially useless.
To be completely fair, neither has anyone else.
I already replied to your post, but I forgot to address the above sentence.
Yahoo has already done it! A "Yahoo ID" can be used in as many places as a M$ passport, if not more.
For instance, if you setup a "Yahoo Wallet" with your yahoo id, that info (name, creditcard, and billing info) can be used on any of the thousands of independent e-stores that run their backend through store.yahoo.com. The same login/pass also works on any of the yahoo sites (stocks, chat, mail, myYahoo portal, travel, the list goes on).
I still don't think this is a good idea, but I'd rather give my info to Yahoo than M$. And no, I'm not just saying that because I hate bill gates; I've dealt with Yahoo Inc quite a bit (namely from running one of said store sites) and rather like the company.
I don't know about many other people, but I don't think too many people would have an e-mail account on a service such as Passport if it was going to contain highly sensitive material. I use services like this as "spam e-mails" so that I can sign up for things that require an e-mail address (but some websites won't even let you sign up with an e-mail like Passport or Hotmail, anyways).
Sure, my current passport account is filled with bogus info and is mostly used for hotmail and sometimes msn communities. But the idea is that the passport login will be required for more legit/official uses such as the MSN HomeAdvisor, financial sites, and maybe even ecommerce. Sites that you'd ordinarily give real info to will soon be using passport. And that sucks.
So these privacy groups get worried about Microsoft's Passport leaking information when the biggest leaks of personal info are from fallen dotcoms and stupid e-commerce web sites? People, when you are paranoid, at least be paranoid to everybody, not just to Microsoft.
"fallen" dotcoms are, by definition, no longer in bussiness. Complaining about them won't do any good. Microsoft, on the other hand, is very much in bussiness. Their passport service has a bad track record. There is no indication that microsoft has made any major changes in response to the barrage of criticism it has received. It's growing, and in the future you will undoubtedly see more sites where a passport login is required for certain features. That is why its important to be paranoid about this threat now.
Having all your information stored in one central location is definitely better than having all your information stored all over the place.
I disagree.
Just because I am truthfull when entering my age on one site doesn't mean I want to be on another site. If both ask for my age, and both use passport, I'd have to use two passport accounts to achive my age-deception! And that defeats the whole purpose.
Age is just a trivial example. What info (and how much info) most people give out varies greatly between sites. How does it benefit me, the end user, to have all my info in one place? I can remember passwords, so that one-password argument is no good.
And, even if I wanted one place for all my info, M$ would be the last company I would want to administer it.
They probably won't lobby any state reps from maryland!
(for those who don't know - the passport eula says you can't use it in the state of maryland.)
I'm not sure if this is accurate, but most stores stopped allowing returned media(including music, videos, software, etc) except for a direct exchange of a identical media. I guess its to combat piracy.
Yep. I don't know of any software or music stores that will give you credit or moneyback for an opened product.
An interesting note though: Barnes and Noble sells several software titles, as well a slew of boks with included cd's (often containing commercial/promotional software that would otherwise have to be paid for). Their return policy actually allows you to return the box (or book w/cd) even if it has clearly been opened. I guess they didn't think about it since they are in the bussiness of selling books. I'm sure it won't last long though...
You know that radio thing works quite well some time.
I don't know where you live, but where I am the radio plays a lot of shitty music intersected with annoying ads for used car dealers.
I'll take peer2peer file sharing over that, thankyouverymuch.
someone just used a "thats like hitler..." and got modded insightfull. What is /. coming to?!
Well, there are already 300 comments but I don't think anyone has addressed this yet so here goes:
(from the article)
Try and find an agnostic view of Linux or MacOS. The sites which cover them are in the business of preaching to the converted. While Mac evangelism is as silly as worshiping a dead Sci-fi writer, Linux evangelism seems to expect everyone to rely on the belief of miracles with no further evidence needed.
The author complains nobody is agnostic about macs & linux. Two sentences later, he is taking a very non-agnostic view himself. I think when he says he wishes people would take an "agnostic" view about platforms he doesn't like, he means they should agree with him. And he's not agnostic about it at all, obviously.
(now it's full of MS astro turfers)
/. reading+posting experience and I can lie through my teeth about whatever you guys are pushing this week (or next).
Even though astro-turfing is clearly unethical (and maybe even ilegal), are you telling me you wouldn't take a job reading slashdot all day? Even it it required you to make pro-MS posts from time to time?
MS Astro-turfers: If there are any openings over there, drop me a line! I've got
Just like people dialing a wrong number are stealing your time and resources. But part of the deal in having a phone that other peopls can call you on is that OTHER PEOPLE CAN CALL YOU.
Poor analogy.
If someone calls your number once or twice by accident then its OK. Several thousand times, on purpose, for their gain.... it becomes harrasment.
The technique this article is talking about won't cause just 'a few' stray packets. It would have to send a LOT of bogus packets. I don't know the technical details, but if they spread it out evenly enough that each machine only had to deal with a very small number of seemly stray packets, they could probably get away with it. Especially if all their target/host machines were high-traffic servers to begin with.
No one can steal from the big corporations of America and get away with it.
Millions of p2p users are getting away with it right now....
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They'll never make any money if they go on like that!
Rupert is not just a stuffed monkey. He is so much more, with thos cute button eyes you can see your boss behind you when your writing rtml.
Behind me? I'm pretty sure that my stuffed monkey was replaced by a seemly identical one with secret hidden cameras in the eyes.
So I'm pretty sure bigC isn't watching over my shoulder, but rather sitting the the air conditioned office watching a live feed instead.
The toilet-cam is probably more interesting anyway though.
The front page caching is pretty screwed up here too (NS 4.7x on Solaris) - the P2P article has been displayed as 3 of 8 comments for an hour or so now, which definitely doesn't match the actual story. Did somebody's perl cron job choke? :)
/. descussion about evolution bugs turns to a discussion about /. bugs...
The slashdot front page has been odd all day. This story has been up for quite some time, and after a reload the front page still just says "Read More" and doesn't list it as having attached comments. I have my config setup to send me a message when I get replies to my posts, and that hasn't been happening either. I've seen a couple replies today and the front page still says "0 new messages".
funny, the
>> Could it be that apple would like linux to stay
;-)
>> in its server-niche?
>Yes!
apple IS trying to push their *nix desktop OS afterall