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Ghost in the Shell 2, Matrix Revisted, Daft Punk

NeoCode sends tons of juice starting with "Ghost in the Shell creator, Masamune Shirow, has talked about a sequel to GITS in a recent interview. The director of the original is working on GITS2. The Matrix Revisted is essentially a prequel to the original Matrix movie. My guess is that the anime story might be along the lines of the Matrix comics that are on their website. Anyways, here are some tidbits about the Matrix anime. And lastly, CartoonNetwork has a interviewed Daft Punk about their anime video and their anime" I saw the Daft Punk (as well as all 3 Gorillaz!) videos on Toonami last friday. Had to immediately hit Cheap CDs and buy the album. (Yes, I'm buying CDs again. I ended my boycott now that Napster battle is over) I thought it was just Gap commercial soundtracks, but those are sweet videos.

123 comments

  1. Nothing much by Red+Moose · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    It would be nice if there was some info on the offical Matrix sequel - the comics are pretty cool, but I would really like a new movie. It's been, what 2 and a 1/2 years since the original, and the last I checked the next one is due at the *end* of 2002.

    I've also forgotten all the cool lines, such as "Trinity I've got r00t on j00r b0x3rs"......or was that some other movie?

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    Acting stupid isn't much fun when there's someone around who knows better

    1. Re:Nothing much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Matrix 2?

      How can they make a movie now that Neo has become a god?

    2. Re:Nothing much by jedwards · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's plenty of information at upcomingmovies. How much you choose to believe is up to you, since it's mainly unoffical rumours.

    3. Re:Nothing much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhm. Neo may have a lot of power in the Matrix, but he's not a god. Plus, just because he's strong, doesn't suddenly mean that all the humans in the 'real' world are suddenly freed, or any more able to help themselves with their fate.

  2. BUY THE DVDS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Help stop russian hackers and wicked pirates.

  3. The Napster battle is over? by MobyDisk · · Score: 2, Troll
    Quoth CmdrTaco:
    "Had to immediately hit Cheap CDs and buy the album. (Yes, I'm buying CDs again. The Napster battle is over)"
    So you mean when Napster was around, you were not buying CDs? Glad to hear that Slashdot is publicly admitting piracy. I thought everyone said they were buying more CDs when Napster was around. I see that argument has gone straight out the window. That will do great for the RIAA side of the case.

    Sorry to flame our mighty mentors here, but I really think Slashdot would do better if there was not personal commentary on story headlines. Most of the valid complaints people have about this site is the biased or foolish comments added into the headlines. It is quite frustrating.

    1. Re:The Napster battle is over? by Wrexen · · Score: 1

      There are two possiblities here

      1) Taco is referring to the RIAA boycott, and has given up (due to ...?)
      2) Napster is shut down and he's too lazy to run gnutella to do his music piracy

      Either way it's a nice way to start a flame war in the comments section, which seems to be all Taco's commentary seems to be good for

    2. Re:The Napster battle is over? by Rysc · · Score: 1

      What do you think Slashdot is about? It's OPINION. My opinion, your opinion, and the opinion of those who post the stories. This is not a place for careful just-the-facts journalism. What do you want him to do, post the story then reply to it?

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    3. Re:The Napster battle is over? by sausages · · Score: 1

      Is there really any songs you can't find... O.k. so Napster bit it, but i don't seem to have any problems finding mp3. I had Bjork's new album before it came out in CD. Mind you that really isn't the point.

    4. Re:The Napster battle is over? by DeadMeat+(TM) · · Score: 4, Troll
      I know they say "don't feed the trolls", but somebody was modding the parent up . . .

      Not buying CDs and piracy are two different things. You see, it would only be piracy if he didn't buy CDs, and then downloaded the music from the CDs anyway. What he's referring to is when many people in the /. crowd were boycotting the RIAA by refusing to buy their CDs -- just because you don't buy their CDs doesn't mean you're also illegally downloading MP3s in their place.

      By your definition, anybody who doesn't own a CD player is a pirate, because since they aren't buying CDs, they must clearly be pirating them!

      Just because CmdrTaco doesn't want to support an "organization" that he feels is bullying Napster doesn't mean he's using Napster illegally, or even at all. That's like saying that all people who support the Free Dmitry campaign are doing it because they're E-book pirates.

    5. Re:The Napster battle is over? by c0rtez · · Score: 1

      Are you sure he didn't mean that during the litigation of napster by the RIAA he boycotted the RIAA's products and/or services?

    6. Re:The Napster battle is over? by Drestin · · Score: 1

      No - it's obvious he used Napster, like everyone else (without exception, in my opinion), to pirate copyrighted music. What other reason is there to use Napster? To chat with people? To trade music you already own?

      taco is just to stupid to realize his slip-up and to change it now would be an even greater omission.

    7. Re:The Napster battle is over? by afedaken · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hell yess to trade music I already own.

      I've been using napster/gnutella/audiogalaxy to replace scratched tracks on CDs that i've already purchased.

      I've used them to get copies of music I own on VINLY or TAPE.

      I've downloaded MP3 samples from TV show themes, funny commercials, speeches, and public domain recordings, all from Napster.

      There are plenty of non-infinging, fair uses for these file sharing technologies. Don't lump all of us into the "Pirate" Category.

      (FWIW: Yeah, I'll admit it. I've d/led tracks I don't own, mostly for albums not available here in the U.S.. Make of that what you will.)

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      If there's a castle floating upside down in the sky, then there's a castle floating upside down in the sky.
    8. Re:The Napster battle is over? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People that say that are so full of shit.

      So when you're searching for songs by some band and you see a song you like but never bought on CD instead clicking it and downloading you think no that would be wrong i can't possible download that. What a load of bullshit.

      Saying i used napster but i never infringed copyrights is about the same as Bill Clinton saying i smoked pot but i didn't inhale.

    9. Re:The Napster battle is over? by knightf0x · · Score: 1

      You know it is possible: not buy new music and not pirate.

      You know that radio thing works quite well some time.

    10. Re:The Napster battle is over? by BigJimSlade · · Score: 1

      I was just amused that Cheap CDs seems to slashdotted right now... guess everybody else's boycott is over as well :)

    11. Re:The Napster battle is over? by /dev/trash · · Score: 2, Funny
      He's buying CD's again because Slashdot's parent company has shut down the broadband link to reduce costs. Without a fast fat pipe the only way to get music in under 3 days is to *gasp* buy the CD. Welcome back to 56k and the dark side Taco!

    12. Re:The Napster battle is over? by rawg · · Score: 1

      Just for the record, I go down to the store and buy a CD. I rip it to mp3. Then I take the CD back to the store. After that, I give out copies of the MP3's to all my friends.

      If I could do it with DVD's I would, but I do not have that much space on my HDD to be ripping DVD with good quality.

      There is no reason that this stuff should cost as much as it does, and there is no reason for the RIAA to be such ass holes.

      Oh, one more thing. I ride a skateboard, so already I am a criminal.

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      The above is not worth reading.
    13. Re:The Napster battle is over? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, one more thing. I ride a skateboard, so already I am a criminal.

      Thanks for clearing that up.

    14. Re:The Napster battle is over? by wadetemp · · Score: 1

      So are you saying he wouldn't have gone out and got the music (in mp3 format) if the Napster battle was still raging? He seemed fairly enthusiastic about it (Had to immediately hit Cheap CDs...) And if you were doing the boycott, and you found some must-have music, would you not have done the same? Would I? Well, if you don't own it, that's piracy, buddy.

      Denial is a very hard thing to hide.

    15. Re:The Napster battle is over? by kilgore_47 · · Score: 1

      You know that radio thing works quite well some time.

      I don't know where you live, but where I am the radio plays a lot of shitty music intersected with annoying ads for used car dealers.

      I'll take peer2peer file sharing over that, thankyouverymuch.

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    16. Re:The Napster battle is over? by siokaos · · Score: 2, Informative

      By "The battle is over", CmdrTaco means the boycott is over, in that it's pointless to continue "not purchasing from RIAA members", since Napster is pretty much pointless.

      The boycott of the RIAA was a show of support for the napster community- who was getting shite from them for a long time- about a bunch of bollocks.

      Indeed- piracy goes on on napster, but that's not the reason the boycott went on.

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    17. Re:The Napster battle is over? by antek9 · · Score: 0, Troll

      Yup, Taco is in a trolling mood today, don't feed him. Apart from that, we already know that Taco will buy anything that has anime written all over it, tell us something new, only what with the Daft Punk video(s? I can only speak for the one I know: One More Time), the bottom line in terms of lameness certainly is reached. Man, is that clip dull, but it perfectly fits the song in that respect! I loved Daft Punk before that, I hate them now.

      GITS 2, I'd like to see that, but please spare us a dubbed version, and Matrix 2+3 (The Matrix Reloaded, the title of installment 2, btw.), well, let's see if Aaliyah's tragic death won't postpone its opening even further...

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      A World in a Grain of Sand / Heaven in a Wild Flower,
      Infinity in the Palm of your Hand / And Eternity in an Hour.
    18. Re:The Napster battle is over? by Arjuna+Theban · · Score: 1


      Maybe before you spit out your opinion you'd like to watch the 2 *SEQUEL* video's by Daft Punk and the clips just might start making sense eh?

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    19. Re:The Napster battle is over? by antek9 · · Score: 1

      Agreed, they might. But please do respect my opinion, which is that the one I saw was extremely cheesy on the aesthetic side. Didn't make me crave for more, actually, but I'll keep my eyes open for the others.

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      A World in a Grain of Sand / Heaven in a Wild Flower,
      Infinity in the Palm of your Hand / And Eternity in an Hour.
    20. Re:The Napster battle is over? by MobyDisk · · Score: 2

      1) Not trolling
      2) Agreed
      3) Please check out the reply by "pangur" which observes that they changed the article (presumably in response to my comment) to specify the word boycott. Thus, my original comment is now irrelevant.

    21. Re:The Napster battle is over? by Cheetah86 · · Score: 1

      Just for the record, I go down to the store and buy a CD. I rip it to mp3. Then I take the CD back to the store. After that, I give out copies of the MP3's to all my friends.

      I'm not sure if this is accurate, but most stores stopped allowing returned media(including music, videos, software, etc) except for a direct exchange of a identical media. I guess its to combat piracy.

    22. Re:The Napster battle is over? by kilgore_47 · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure if this is accurate, but most stores stopped allowing returned media(including music, videos, software, etc) except for a direct exchange of a identical media. I guess its to combat piracy.

      Yep. I don't know of any software or music stores that will give you credit or moneyback for an opened product.

      An interesting note though: Barnes and Noble sells several software titles, as well a slew of boks with included cd's (often containing commercial/promotional software that would otherwise have to be paid for). Their return policy actually allows you to return the box (or book w/cd) even if it has clearly been opened. I guess they didn't think about it since they are in the bussiness of selling books. I'm sure it won't last long though...

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    23. Re:The Napster battle is over? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny how your comment fits the bill of a personal/biased/foolish comment. I guess they need to disallow meta-commenting as well, sheesh.

  4. Re: EXACTLY! by Red+Moose · · Score: 1
    Yeah, same with the computer game (if it ever gets released). Why bother playing as you can't get killed (if it's anything like the movie, that is). Would a cool adventure game if done like the Bladerunner game though.

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  5. Napster battle? by anshil · · Score: 2, Troll

    (Yes, I'm buying CDs again. The Napster battle is over)

    So whats that for a comment?Is it necessary? Is this now a political tension of slashdot? You're admitting you used napster just of piracy?
    Honestly I really broke one of my CD's and downloaded the mp3. Really honest I had bought it befor, so it was 100% legal.

    Taco gives his impression of the way the humanity should tread musical values just as a side in brackets?

    Pleh now why I am reading slashdot at all, for such smartass side-comments?

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    Karma 50, and all I got was this lousy T-Shirt.
  6. Re:taco by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Why should I stop buying CDs even though I detest the habits of the media corporations?

    Anything that deprives me of my freedoms is bad. Boycotting takes away my freedom to buy CDs. Therefore boycotting is bad.

  7. Re:Superiority of the European Civilization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Superiority of the Europe?

    Hah!

    You can't even agree to put together an army to stop a piss-ant war on your own continent.

    Look at the economy of countries like Italy, Portugal or the eastern Europe. Pure crap.

    Your space program sucks. Every now and then your rocket blows up or a satellite ends up on a wrong orbit. You haven't even walked on the moon which we did in the 1960s, for chrissake!

    Your nuclear deterrent consists of what? Ten warheads in the UK? Even after all the reductions we've still got thousands.

    Your navies are pitiful. You can't even project power cause you don't have proper aircraft carriers.

    Do I need to go on?

  8. Taco... by Jim42688 · · Score: 1

    Why would you buy CD's just because Napster was destroyed? You can use Limewire for Gnutella, Aimster (though i would recommend it), audiogalaxy, imesh, etc....

    come on man...

  9. Taco is an RIAA love monkey by disc-chord · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "(Yes, I'm buying CDs again. The Napster battle is over)"

    So presumably you stopped buying CDs because the RIAA was picking on the little guy and you were showing your support by boycotting their products... but the RIAA won, so now you're going to suppot them again? What the hell kind of stance is that. I'm personally pretty displeased with the RIAA still. And the MPAA! You buying DVDs Taco? For shame... I personally have vowed never to support these tyrants again.

  10. Daft Punk by Abstrakt · · Score: 3, Troll
    The French duo known as Daft Punk are well known throughout Europe for their amazing videos. They put out a DVD titled "D.A.F.T." containing all four videos from their first album, "Homework." You might want to check it out if you like their style... The disc even has commentary tracks and behind-the-scenes documentaries for each video... very cool stuff!

    BTW: The latest GAP ads are just a rip-off of the video for "Around the World" - directed by the great Michel Gondry.

    Cheers,
    -Ugo

    1. Re:Daft Punk by tringstad · · Score: 1
      BTW: The latest GAP ads are just a rip-off of the video for "Around the World" - directed by the great Michel Gondry.

      Just curious, where are you coming up with this from? I saw nothing in the GAP commercial which would imply that it was a rip-off of anything, unless you count Juliette Lewis dancing to Daft Punk's music, with Daft Punk themselves. And since Juliette Lewis isn't in "Around the World", and the song is from a different CD entirely, that leaves only the group, which means you could claim it was a rip-off of any video they appeared in.

      So why "Around the World"?

      -Tommy

      --
      "I got a half gallon of Jack, and 2 dozen Ant Traps. I'm about to get wild." -me
  11. Gorillaz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gorillaz is so hip!

    I know it's true becuase the TV told me!

    And we all know the TV don't lie!

  12. Manmachine Interface by DeepDarkSky · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    Coincidentally, I just got a copy of the Manmachine Interface (Japanese edition) manga and it is awesome. It's a very dense piece of work - the full-color pages are amazing - packed with so much detail that it took an hour just to get through the first couple of chapters. The machinery, the technologies, and of course the women are painstakingly rendered with much love by Shirow. Ghost in the Shell pales in comparison.

    The 3D rendering with the superimposed hand-drawn characters worked out well, and I think only he could have pulled it off to make them look good together.

    I haven't even gotten half way through the book yet (I've just finished the full color pages in the first part), so I'm just touching on the appearance of artwork. It seems that Shirow has also expanded and fleshed out details of his vision of virtual navigations (the brain dives).

    Needless to say, I highly recommend everyone to go get a copy! (Although, I'd recommend all of Shirow's work)

    1. Re:Manmachine Interface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Art, Story Telling, oh please, that's like playing with GI Joes and saying their Patrotism Figurines or something.

      "No these aren't dolls for little boys that i'm playing with, these are my Patriotism Figurines."

      So what if 40% of published work sold in japan are comic books. Why does everyone think if japanese people like it must be cool somehow. Actually most people don't think that. Socially challenged geeks with a warped sense of reality somehow think pop culture trash from japan is somehow cool. Spare me.

      Go read your "Graphic Novel" while i sit here play with my "Patriotism Figurines".

    2. Re:Manmachine Interface by Looge+Over+All! · · Score: 1

      HaHa!

      *points and laughs at american*

    3. Re:Manmachine Interface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a lifetime (well, since circa '90) Masamune Shirow fan, I'm very excited to get my hands on his latest work. Shirow-san's art is second to none, in my opinion - I was hooked as soon as I saw the two-page span of a post-WWIII New York sprawled out in the opening pages of Appleseed book 2, and I haven't looked back since. It's such a shame that all the other anime adaptations other than GITS turned out so horrible (Appleseed was especially heart-breaking, IMO - oh, to think what they could have done with that subject matter!).

      Speaking of Appleseed, has anyone at all heard anything regarding book 5? For what was supposedly his life's work, I've seen precious little details on when we can expect to see what became of Deunan, Bri, et al.

  13. Free from encryption by mwillems · · Score: 2

    I have GITS - great sound, great story. Looks more like Hong Kong than like a futuristic Japan.

    I was pleasantly surprised to see that it was free of CDD encryption. Making it much easier to play on my Linux desktop. Any idea anyone if GITS 2 will also be CSS-free? I am certainly going to buy it, if it is.

    Michael

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    1. Re:Free from encryption by jnik · · Score: 2, Informative
      Most anime discs in the US are CSS free and Macrovision free and R0 unless otherwise required by the licensor. Manga Ent., who distributed GitS, is now Macrovisioning all their discs.

      The movie rights to MMI have already been obtained by Miramax. I'm sure their disc will have CSS, Macrovision, R1, RCE, and contact poison for anyone trying to mess with them.

    2. Re:Free from encryption by Mr.+Sparkly · · Score: 1

      If you really want to play it on your linux laptop, you should get the perl CSS decoder. It's called "qrpff," which is just "deCSS" encoded with the ROT-13 thingy. It's only about 7 lines, although I know that perl can be written entirely on one line. I'd give you a link to it, but since I don't have linux, I've never really needed to have qrpff.

  14. Daft Punk music videos by Brian+Kendig · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm surprised there hasn't been more discussion of the Daft Punk music videos here. The recent ones are from their latest album 'Discovery.' The videos are animated by Leiji Matsumoto, otherwise famous for anime such as Space Cruiser Yamato (aka Star Blazers), Galaxy Express 999, Captain Harlock, and Queen Emereldas... it's great stuff! Especially since Matsumoto himself is more than seventy years old now!

    I had originally heard that only the first four tracks from the album would be animated, but the fourth video (which I saw on Cartoon Network's 'Toonami' the other night) doesn't resolve anything. Has anyone heard for certain how much of the album will be animated?

    The first three videos are available in RealVideo format from 'http://www.animedream.org/movies/matsumoto/'. The third video is my favorite. :-) A Quicktime file of the first video is available in three sizes from 'http://the-raft.com/pieces/daftpunk/movies/one_mo re_time_m.html'.

    I'd love to see QuickTime or MPEG versions of all four videos; anyone know if such is available?

    1. Re:Daft Punk music videos by Nodatadj · · Score: 1

      Rumour I read (in Jockey Slut I think), was that they were releasing all the tracks from the album.

    2. Re:Daft Punk music videos by Rufus211 · · Score: 1

      No MPEG, but WMV is better than real (and can be converted to avi->anything else): http://daftpunknet.multimania.com/

    3. Re:Daft Punk music videos by Ryano · · Score: 1

      Not only are all 14 tracks from the album going to be animated, but they're going to release each track as a single. Not all of them are going to be full releases, though. For example, Aerodynamic (2nd track), and Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger (4th track) were only released on vinyl.

      In the interview, they mention that all the animation is "done", so now we have to wait while they drip-feed us new episodes of this masterpiece. I imagine one day we'll be able to buy a DVD with the whole thing.

  15. True Intentions by pangur · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    Wow. It seems that the carefully constructed arguments of those that say "No, we only use Napster for fair use only" have been undercut by a throw-away comment by a Slashdot editor.

    There are people (I'm one of them) who ^might^ think that "hackers" are bad people like they are shown in the media. "Hackers" are the ones that come up with worms, virus toolkits, and remote exploits designed to make life miserable for others, and are generally dickheads. But after reading Slashdot for a few years, I realized that "hackers" can be legitamite people with legitamite concerns about copy protection, security holes, freedom of information, the centralization of power in one corporation in Redmond, the "fair use" provision in law, protecting the littlr guy against the big corporations, and other such issues.

    These last few stories have shown your efforts in a new light.

    We may think that lawyers are slimy because they sue for little reason hoping to fish for some settlement money. The reason the lawyer might give would be "I'm just protecting my rights", but under it all, it's for the money. It's disheartening to find out that the reason behind some supposed "civil rights" actions is merely greed in a socially acceptible form. It's frustrating to find out that the political party you support because they back a certain issue only back that issue so they can get more votes to promote a hidden agenda (Insert major party here). And it's frustrating to see a major player in the Linux news community admit in print that the reason they support "fair use" is to shield their illegal activity long enough to that they can get as many mp3s as they can.

    Once you lose your credibility, it's hard to get back. Hardly anyone listens when it's said that Clinton pardoned Rich as a favor to Israel leader Barak, because they are used to seeing Clinton lie about other things. They assume the worst when it come to motive. Also, because the public feels that Condit has not been truthful and has been more concerned about reelection, he has already been tried in public opinion. Nothing he can say now will be seen on the context he may want it to be seen, even if it were sincere.

    So what's the point of this comment?

    Once you say, "Well, yeah, actually it was about getting music for free", when for MONTHS you have been saying otherwise, well, why should those who are not necessarily "hackers" see this site as anything but a fraud? Perhaps the real reason you want the DeCSS file propagated is as the first step to pirating DVDs? Perhaps the reason you want the DMCA overturned is because it stops people from cracking encryptions and giving away other people's material for free? You can say, "No, we want to view DVDs on Linux, and the DMCA is too broad", but it's hard to see your point of view when you admit that a previously held position was only held for greed.

    I think that there is a good community here (then again, I browse at +2). I think that people here have things to say that don't get said many other places. And I think that for one of the admins to undercut one of your main messages just to put in an ad for CheapCD.com says a lot more about this board than one hundred well meaning posters can ever do.

    This comment might be redundant, but only because it takes a while to type.

    1. Re:True Intentions by wadetemp · · Score: 1

      Thank you, you (and CmdrTaco) have validated what I've been trying to argue on this forum for months.

    2. Re:True Intentions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The truly sad part of this: Slashdot readers justify Rob's actions because it is "his personal web page." I've seen this many, many times.

      It is _not_ a personal web page anymore. Infact, you can hardly call it "Rob's site" (Does Rob even write the Perl which runs the site anymore? Or maintain the servers?). Rob does not even _own_ this site anymore.

      If you want to parade around like a news organization, then act like one. Is there no such thing as professionalism anymore?

      Want to know why there are so many trolls on Slashdot? It is because Rob & co. continue to use childish nicknames and praise piracy. Want to know why the vast majority despise proprietary software? Probably has something to do w/ Slashdot's continued emphasis on "free software is better than proprietary because it costs nothing." But, proprietary games are a-okay (i.e. Loki). Bashing RMS is also good (don't touch Linus though! He provides the cost-nothing kernel--I mean, who really gives a shit about Emacs or GNU tools. Not like they are even cool or stuff, ya know. Not like Perl, Apache, or Gimp cool).

      The more I read this site the more I waste my time it seems. The news is stale, the comments are unreadable garbage, and there is a clear bias on every article. There is no community here. Just a bunch of hypocrits and liars using the .org tag for commercial purposes. Bah!

    3. Re:True Intentions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Actually, I want to view DVDs on my Winbox right now. Problem? I'm not going to pay for software to make my hardware work like it should. I paid for it already. Now let me see the DVDs I've paid for on my drive that I paid for.

      What the bleepy-bleep is wrong with these people?

      Its easier to download the movie then to get the DVD in my possesion to work. Is this really helping them?

  16. Are you stupid or just generally defective, Taco? by Kasreyn · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    "...(Yes, I'm buying CDs again. I ended my boycott now that Napster battle is over)"

    Ah, I see. Of course the battle is over! It must be. Because Fanning and company sold out like the little whores they are, we shall all now stop trading mp3's and gladly throw away our fair-use rights to music and literature. Please RIAA, saddle us with watermarks, encryption, and subscriptions! Please, publishers, lock us out of reading the books we bought and paid for! We don't mind. Because if CmdrTaco says the battle is over, then it must be so.

    -Kasreyn

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  17. No by pangur · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He changed his comment without providing the usual "Update" note in the post. The original post said that he's buying CDs now that the Napster battle is over". The only meaning I see from that is that since Napster has been shut down, he needs to buy music since he can't get it for free.

    One thing about /. editing lately has been changing their original posts when they make foolish comments without saying that they changed the comment. When people that haven't seen the original story see the original posted comments of others replying, they think these original posters have rabid squirrels in their pants. That is disappointing.

    Instead, the editor is not boycotting the RIAA anymore because Napster has been shut down? Does that even make sense? It's a convenient boycott when you can get your music for free.

    It's like saying that if Microsoft should come up with some (supposedly) uncrackable anti-piracy distribution of Windows, then he would end his "boycott" of MS products by actually buying the software instead of borrowing it from a friend. A boycott is a moral stance against some company or product because of some stance or issue they support. A boycott is not simply stealing things for free and saying it's for some moral reason.

    I wonder how long it will take before the editors change the post again. It didn't used to be this way.

    1. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The only meaning I see from that is that since Napster has been shut down, he needs to buy music since he can't get it for free.
      Thanks for playing dumbass. Anyone who thinks that Napster was the only place to pirate music has been living in a dream world. Gnutella, AudioGalaxy, Morpheus...

      Maybe you need to use your brain. Boycotting an organization that is bullying a smaller organization is not a bad thing. Where did you equate "I'm boycotting the RIAA" with "I'm pirating music"?
    2. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Just cuase the RIAA beat Napster doens't mean they should magically be forgiven for bullying. That's like saying, well now that hitler has killed all the jews i'm going back to supporting the nazi party. What the fuck kind of shit is that. The RIAA are still bullying people. Just now that the marketing dept. at Daft Punks record label has decided to tap into anime to sell their crappy techno music Taco has no choice but to give in and buy it. Face it the guys a fucking loser. Anime is so loserish, selling out and being a hypocrit so you can watch some japanese cartoons is the ultimate in loserish. By that i'm refering to the MPAA and DVD is evil slop Taco spews one minute and then the next he tells everyone to rush out and buy the latest trash japan has dumped on america.

    3. Re:No by kilgore_47 · · Score: 1

      someone just used a "thats like hitler..." and got modded insightfull. What is /. coming to?!

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    4. Re:No by Overrated+Nazi · · Score: 0

      yeah, thanks moderators for not knowing wtf usenet sudden thread death is :(

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    5. Re:No by Erasmus+Darwin · · Score: 2
      "The only meaning I see from that is that since Napster has been shut down, he needs to buy music since he can't get it for free."

      That's the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard. I find it hard to believe that CmdrTaco hasn't heard of any of the Napster alternatives (most to all of which haven't been neutered by the RIAA, yet). Hell, just doing a search on Gnutella brings up quite a number of Slashdot stories: http://slashdot.org/search.pl?query=gnutella

  18. Ghost in the Shell Manga is *not* the Anime!!! by JabberWokky · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I have GITS - great sound, great story. Looks more like Hong Kong than like a futuristic Japan.

    As a tremendous Masamune Shirow fan, I think it's really important to point out that the comic (which Shirow did) is very different than the movie (directed by Mamoru Oshi). Important because the interview is with Shirow, who wrote quite a different work than the movie.

    Most scenes in the comic feature tiny personal tanks that have a shared AI called Fuchikomas... if you've seen the Playstation game, you'll know them. Also, Major Kusanagi is a practical joker, who has a rather crude sense of humor, goes in for quickie sex, and pisses off and is pissed off at her superiors. None of this is in the movie.

    Of course, the ending and themes of "what is self when memory is fluid?" and "what makes a soul?" are explored in much more depth, with seriously long passages of text. I'm not saying it's comparable to Critique of Pure Reason, but it's an enjoyable philosophic entertainment. It's also full of classic Shirow detail in background art and sidebars and footnotes explaining the tech used and political structure of the organizations.

    ( BTW - ditto for "Battle Angel", which, in the comic form goes way way past anything in the OVAs, and I recommend to anyone who is a fan of Shirow ).

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  19. The GITS legacy.. by vishakh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ..doesnt really seem to exist. Sure, a couple of years back it was hailed as revolutionary and it was supposedly going to change the face of animation. But what has happened since then?

    Anime itself has stalled with few of the newer flicks progressing beyond a minor foray from the tried and tested. When GITS was released, I would have expected that its sequel would one day extend a complete revolution, but instead I now look forward merely to a couple of hours of quality entertainment.

    Sure, you could name Final Fantasy to prove that I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that a few years down the line, people will recall FF too as a really well-done movie instead of some kind of harbinger of a revolution in animation.

    What a disappointment!

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    1. Re:The GITS legacy.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GITS was an anime and a manga. The two are practically different beasts though they share the same name.

      From a technical perspective computer integration in anime has progressed quite a bit. Even TV shows are using it now although many just aren't powerful in the story department.

      In terms of story the last couple of months haven't really been earth shattering for me. But as always you should check out fansubbed anime to get a taste for what's current overseas. Type in "digital fansubs" in google and try a few links. The new japanese tv season starts in october I think so look for more stuff shortly after.

  20. Re: Homophobia by Spirit+of+Ishmael · · Score: 1

    It isn't just this (/.) board. As someone whose only recently begun visiting more tech/nerd sites (/., Ars, etc), I've been disappointed by the number of misogynistic and homophopic comments I see posted on a regular basis. I'd like to tell myself its all the work of ignorant 14 year olds but, unfortunately, such sentiments seem to be broadly disseminated throughout the online/enthusiast culture.

  21. Re:Spell check by jedwards · · Score: 2

    has a interviewed, now that napster battle is over
    Both these would pass a spellcheck. (Except for the word napster which is still spelt correctly)

  22. Re:Gorillaz like goats? by jedwards · · Score: 1

    I hang my head in shame.
    Much like the men here and here

  23. Napster? What about Felten? by prizog · · Score: 2

    So, free music is more important to you than free speech? You'll boycott over Napster, but not over Felten?

    Taco is my hero. Not.

  24. Cowboy Bebop premiering tonight at midnight by LordNimon · · Score: 3

    Although I suspect it will be edited, the Cartoon Network is premiering Cowboy Bebop tonight at midnight (Eastern time).

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    1. Re:Cowboy Bebop premiering tonight at midnight by dswensen · · Score: 1

      Ugh. I shudder to think what the Cartoon Network will do to Bebop. If it gets people interested in purchasing the originals on DVD or VHS, that's a good thing, but still, it gives me pause. I watched Outlaw Star on Cartoon Network after buying the DVDs and they're like two completely different shows.

    2. Re:Cowboy Bebop premiering tonight at midnight by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2

      I will point out that most of Cowboy Bebop, including the very first episode, was deemed to violent for Japanese TV as well; I believe only 12 episodes were actually broadcast.

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    3. Re:Cowboy Bebop premiering tonight at midnight by AgentUmino · · Score: 1
      Which first episode are you talking about? The one with Ein (Stray Dog Strut) which was the first episode on TV in Japan I believe, or the "real" first episode, the red-eye one, whose name escapes me at the moment? It was the 13th episode produced I believe, after the 12 broadcast ones...though I thought Bebop found a home on some cable/satelite channel in Japan?
      I bet Cartoon Network/Toonami will just skip the real first episode and show Stray Dog Strut. What I want to know is what they will do with characters like Gren and Vicious....

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      I doubt they'll show Gren's breasts, but I wonder how much of Vicious' violence we will see. (his coup d'etat comes to mind) Of course, I guess they could just cut out lots of episodes. =P That would be interesting, the Cowboy Bebop series w/o any of the 5 Vicious episodes.

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    4. Re:Cowboy Bebop premiering tonight at midnight by cqnn · · Score: 1

      CN was already showing clips from the first episode "Asteroid Blues" as part of the
      promos for Benop.

      We in the west would have less of a problem
      with the violence in general, and one of the
      reasons it didn't air on Japanese TV was that
      it came out during a backlash against volent
      images in the media in general.

      If they do choose to show it, it will give us
      a good barometer of how they plan to deal with
      the rest of the series.

  25. Buying CD's? by pressman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    (Yes, I'm buying CDs again. I ended my boycott now that Napster battle is over)

    If you weren't buying CD's during the Napster battle, you're part of the reason Napster lost! Napster was a great resource for finding music, More often than not, I would find some obscure piece of music by one of my favorite artists , listen to the mp3 and then rush out and buy the cd. I would often also find more information on the people recording with these artists and end up buying more music by the people listed as working on the albums.


    Now that Napster is gone, I'm finding the rate at which I discover and purchase new music is lessening because I don't have this wonderful database at my fingertips anymore.

    The "I want everything computer related for free" crowd has really messed up my new music discovery process.

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    1. Re:Buying CD's? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree I found the songs that were samples off off good tunes that I like a found even more good music my cd buying has tapered off latley I wonder why?

  26. why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe you found reading books was too difficult.

    1. Re:why? by anshil · · Score: 1

      Maybe the news written for books, printed, shiped, and buyed in my store are a little out of date :o)

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  27. new daft punk vidoes by notext · · Score: 1

    suck. The anime videos they have now don't even come close to the ones from the Homework album.

    Around the World and Da Funk videos were just plain cool. Even though I have and enjoy the new cd, I was really disappointed when seeing the videos.

    I could be wrong. After all I saw the Homework videos while I was in college and still got high. Maybe they just seemed better.

  28. Don't know about anybody else... by kreyg · · Score: 2

    I'm still boycotting both the RIAA and the MPAA. I still listen to the radio, but I usually don't buy types of products they advertise, or can try to choose a competitor's. :-)

    Really, it hasn't been so hard. But then, I like classic rock and have never purchased a DVD in my life, so the tempatation to buy the "latest and greatest" is somewhat diminished.

    You know, a fundamental component of capitalism is the right NOT to buy something. Until I can purchase their products with cash, instead of my freedom and soul, then I think I'll do without.

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  29. Re:Get over it by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 1

    mod this up! this anonymous coward is completely right, shut up about napster for 10 minutes and talk about anime, i mean... MATRIX ANIME PREQUEL!!!!!!! jesus, say the word napster and everyone gets all indignant, there are more important things to talk about (the Matrix being one of them)

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  30. Thats it. by ikekrull · · Score: 2

    CmdrTaco joins JonKatz on my Slashdot filter list

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  31. The Matrix Revisited by Sinistar2k · · Score: 2, Informative

    TMR is not a prequel. It's an upcoming DVD release that contains more supplemental behind-the-scenes footage and yet more extras.

  32. Cowboy Bebop airs tonight by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2

    Might as well toss this tidbit in, check your cartoon network listings. 9 and 9:30 CST.

    Also check out this petition to get Disney to release some of Japan's greatest anime.

  33. Victoria's secret by mr100percent · · Score: 1

    I like daft Punk, but every time I hear the name i start laughing uncontrollably as the name conjures the image of that Victoria's Secret Commercial, where she dances to 'One more time."

  34. Matrix Revisited by Seemlar · · Score: 1

    It's probably already been said, but Matrix Revisited is not a prequel, but a new DVD of extras.

    On that note, is anybody actually considering buying it?

    I love extras. I don't mind The Matrix's extras I got on the CD, but I can't justify paying for a DVD of just extras.

    About the only other Matrix extra I'd want is a new commentary by the directors, the original commentary was... mediocre, at best.

  35. Just watched it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just watched it.
    I'm quite impressed - considering it IS CN.
    There was little editing - people smoked, drank, got shot (WITH Blood), and swore.
    The voice talent was not that bad (although showing subs would still make my day :), and they actually used the great Yoko Kanno opening ('Tank') and the ending ('Real Folk Blues') was unchanged and in Japanese.
    Overall - it's about as good a treatment of one of my favorite, and definately one of the best series as I could hope for by a major cable network.
    Anyone know if it will always be shown on Sunday, or is there a different regular time?

    Sincerely,
    Kevin Christie
    Program in Neuroscience
    University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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    1. Re:Just watched it! by AgentUmino · · Score: 1
      Yeah, I watched it and I am impressed as well. I noticed in the credits there is no section for "toonami" or "cartoon network" version staff, which is telling as I think there was very minor censoring if anything....
      All I can think of is maybe a shot with blood removed, and I swear the color of Abdul's afro just looked weird, but I haven't seen these episodes in a while so I could be wrong. Regardless, I must say I'm amazed it could air like this.
      The only thing I really have to grip about is the TV 14 rating always being in the upper left corner. Does anyone else find this funny since the adult swim block tells kids under 17 that they can't watch?

      I think the whole swim block thing is rather lame though, bring me Tom and the Absolution(is that his ship?) instead of old ladies in a pool being yelled at by a lifeguard anyday! Anyone else feel the same?

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    2. Re:Just watched it! by Kira-Baka · · Score: 1

      I've seen the DVDs and seen the first two eps on Cartoon Network, I don't think there was anything changed at all unless it was very very small... I'm wondering what they are gonna do on epi 13... :)

  36. Patriotism Figurines My Ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "So what if 40% of published work sold in japan are comic books. Why does everyone think if japanese people like it must be cool somehow. Actually most people don't think that. Socially challenged geeks with a warped sense of reality somehow think pop culture trash from japan is somehow cool. Spare me."

    What measure would convince you that the Japanese are leaders when it comes to media rivaled only by the American entertainment machine?

    Economically they are the second biggest market for entertainment. Go ask hollywood when their stuff bombs here where they pray they can recoup their costs. One might suppose they can suceed there for a number of reasons amoung them it being different and maybe because they want to see what we watch.

    As far as what you call "comic books" there is a difference between a comic book and a manga. Even the comic book industry sees this and is looking at introducing a more mature product. Just because a book has pictures and uses them as part of telling a story don't trivialize it as childish. This is not about symantics. Some of the best manga tells of history, culture and such. One might also add the simple question of what qualifies you to bash anothers culture when your own has such a short one to draw upon. If the greatest sci fi novel was a manga would you still complain? That's the unique position that the Jpanese are in. They have so much of a head start in animation and graphical novels in presenting comlex stories. To not concede that point is laughable at best and likely the result of not being exposed to some of the best stuff. Not figures or toys but novels with a message as deep as the greatest western novel, stage play or art. Sure there is crap but to judge a whole segment on the worst rather than the best or even the average says that you won't give it a fair shot.

    Finally the real reason I like watching anime and reading manga is believe it or not for the nuances of culture that are present and the method of telling stories that are often driven by characters and their developement rather than the situation developement found in many cartoons and comic books. I'm probably in the minority but I really find the best of their stuff refreshing as I do stuff from the west.

    The central point I've tried to drive home is their are many different types of manga. It's not all stories or games or history or technical use of a pc and introduced via antedotes from professionals ect. It's about using the chosen medium to it's fullest. I see the Japanese doing that all the time and the west starting to embrace it on a larger scale. Perhaps if you had stuck to the topic or criticised Man Machine Interface rather than bashing broadly. Oh well maybe that anime catagory just isn't your cup of tea.

  37. Re:Anime is stupid! by Kira-Baka · · Score: 1

    FYI the word "otaku" is japanese for "geek", "nerd", and the like... it has been used as an english word for someone who loves anime for some time. So yes, it is in fact news for nerds.

  38. this is fine and all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, nice to see Daft Punk mentioned here as well as anime but... as was implied in a previous /. story Masamune Shirow's majority of works are hanging in limbo. I doubt very many other /.ers were lucky enough to accidentally receive HBO for free when they were kids but I can tell you I've been missing "Nausicaa: Valley of the Wind" ever since I was 8 years old. I can no longer even tell if I saw the crappy edited version or the original but either way this was something that impacted me deeply. So hooray for GITS2 and Daft Punk (honestly) but let's keep making some noise about all those old Masamune titles that apparently are not worth the time to distribute in the U.S.A.*flush*. Oh, and of course you should check out the various Shirow titles available in print (aka. graphic novels and comic books). They contain an artistry which even the authentic animations cannot touch.

  39. Re: EXACTLY! by raygan · · Score: 1

    Well first of all the first movie barely even showed the Real World, where Neo is mortal as can be. The war with the machines has to be won on two fronts, in the Matrix, and in reality. In the matrix the idea seems to be to turn Neo into a superhero character, while the fight in the real world is more and more resembling the rebels vs. the galactic empire theme we all know and love.

  40. WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ok. pardon me. How the Heck did anyone get an interview with Masamune Shirow?! The man is a total recluse. Noone knows what he looks like(at least who's speaking anyway).

    ok, mebbe by phone. But you still have to find a way to CONTACT him! Kodansha must still have some serious juice in order to even contact Shirow's publishers.

  41. A quick apology... by Kasreyn · · Score: 2

    ...this was probably uncalled-for. Sheesh, looking back on this I don't know why I was so angry at Taco over such a little thing. For all I know it could have been a slip of the tongue (keyboard?).

    So, apologies for the overly harsh wording of the title there. Wownt doowit n'mower.

    -Kasreyn

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  42. Re:Anime is stupid! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Otaku means House(as in your hose)