I would theoretically be able to download files more than 2GB
I'll give you the instructions and registers, but being that I've used Linux and other 64bit OSes for 7 or 8 years now, I can tell you that 64bit apps are just like 32bit ones in that they have to be explicitly compiled for largefile support. That is unless this has changed by default in the past year or so, but regardless 32bit Linux has supported largefiles for quite some time.
FWIW, most Solaris apps are programmed in 32bit mode because the are faster, but that may be different with the AMD chips.
Come on guys, give us 64 bits! Do we dare risk a build from source?
I really don't know for sure, but I thought that AMD64s could run 32bit code, or this could be an OS limitation.
I'm sure that any plugins like flash or java will not be available if you desire them.
At this time, does anybody need more than 4 gigs of RAM for a browser? I guess your intranet might be special, but mind and the internet web sites are usually need less than 1 Gig of RAM.
That repeats the last command for non-unix people.
The data is still there just like a pen and paper system. It could even be oursourced to another country if need be.
Verify that a miscount did not take place.
Ditto.
Prove that each voter's vote was recorded as they intended.
The voter must be anonymous for his/her vote, but there is a count of the people coming into the voting place. That number should equal the number of votes. That data could be human tallied with a datestamp, and then the votes could be datestamped. They won't be exactly the same, but same ballpark. The source is open for everybody to read right? (Just like the mechanical machines have their schematics available, right?) I guess you could give the person a receipt, but that would kill the anonymity part.
Show that only voters eligible to vote voted, and that each only voted once.
Humans already do this with the mechanical and pen and paper methods by unlatching the screen before or after every voter enters/exits or the person only gets one paper ballot.
All the computer is doing here is storing and counting data. I guess I'm still missing something.
Diebold is frequently dinged for their ATMs whenever this topic arises. There are many fair criticisms and accusations against Diebold - this is not one of them. Banking termials are a fundamentally different set of problems than those presented by voting. Hell, aside from that, ATMs can depend on a well-connected private backbone network, with company owned lines and premise equipment.
Am I missing something?
If a computer can do anything, it can enumerate and add integer data.
A couple of abacuses can do that.
I mean seriously, when I first heard about the inability of our government to count back in the 2000 election, I was appalled. I mean, I browse the census website for fun sometimes, and they apparently gather much more difficult data than this.
I mean, here's a perl script to do it in one line (I guess its really two or more bunched together, but...):
I guess it would be better to sort the data by the vote, but still thats the meat of the necessary code. I guess there is logging and whatnot, but it can't be that tough to emulate a ballot box with a machine.
Note that this is a legal spelling. Defense (American English) and defence (British English and Canadian English).
My bad. I thought it was a simple typo and I was trying to be funny, but got an Insightful moderation instead. Should probably be flamebate or offtopic.
So before being pedantic, better first check you are right.
I'm always right and I never lie!
Note that even if sudo successfully executed the cd command (say, by executing it in a root subshell), the intended effect will not happen (because the directory change would only happen in the subshell - which immediatly terminates afterwards -, and the original shell's current directory will not be affected).
Yup. That is why I thought it was funny. 'cd' has to either be a builtin for a shell or something you do inside of another program, chdir() is the usual case. Plus bash is not the sanest of shells for interactive use (ouch, I feel the downwards moderation already). Read the INVOCATION section if you don't believe me. Its not entirely bash's fault because it has tons of legacy junk left over from/bin/sh. Anyway, my shell, zsh, has a manpage called zshbuiltins, and cd is listed there. Its under the builtins section of the csh shell's manpage.
For me, a command is something which I can type in a shell. It may execute a shell builtin, a shell function, an alias, or an executable found in the path, but in any case it's a command.
Fine. TZ=zulu is a command? Type 'which TZ' if your shell has a builtin for which.
How can it distinguish the different chords? TFA only mentions two orange blobs (the two hands), but they don't say anything about how to recognize when the different strings are pressed.
Do you really play real and different chords and solos when playing air guitar?
Personally, I make the shit up because I don't know how to play guitar. Thats why I'm playing the air one.
I hate to be pedantic, but 'cd' is not a command. Its a shell builtin.
It was hilarious when a coworker tried to do 'sudo cd some_directory_with_strong_permissions', and was asking me why it wasn't working. What's scarier, is that she had sudo access. What's even more scary, is that she eventually took my job after I left.
Two **Beatles-Beatles stories on the front page at once? You guys might wnat to consider hiring him, he's clearly a journalistic power house. (Assuming he isn't already on the payroll, that is)
Its also nuts that this guy has already gotten his karma bumped up. I don't know how much accepted stories raises your karma, but this guy is brand new and has only posted a handful of comments.
Plus the George Harrison site that he is pumping really looks like it sucks. I've heard that he is a search engine optimizer or something. Don't really know what is going on here.
Marijuana is banned by the Olympic committee, even though it doesn't really give athletes an advantage. I ran track - and knew some athletes who smoked weed before meets. The reason: it takes the edge off. Being nervous and jumpy throws their rhythm off; and rhythm is everything when wins and losses are measured in the blink of an eye.
Hmm. One fit, athletic, strong person... and one large local source of calories who isn't in terribly good shape and probably wouldn't be able to defend themselves as well. What was that you were saying about "little food?"
Funny. However, there does appear to be a variation in metabolism rates like height, and I guess that is there for some reason. Maybe its there just to feed more people with higher metabolism during ice ages. I don't know. I have no credible source beyond talking with a friend of mine, but he said that big people were the most likely to survive a nuclear strike. I don't know if its from radiation insulation, cold insulation, more efficient metabolism or whatever. But he was pretty certain that the bigger the better in that situation.
The U.S. government has killed perhaps 4 million people since the end of the 2nd world war.
Either your estimate is very conservative, wrong, or what I've heard is wrong. 4 mil / 58 years is _only_ about 68,000 a year. I thought it was more like 100,000 a year when I first read about it back in 2001.
If they weren't athletic they'd be dead - and therefore we would not be here. SO if its couch-potato in our genes then technically our ancestors would have been bloody lazy. And dino food. Survival of the fittest anyone?
OK, lets get that athletic person in the middle of an ice age with little food and a big person and see who lasts longer.
Research like this often does more harm than good, in my opinion.
Maybe people might be more selective in their breeding habits? Doubtful, but I guess genetics is still a pretty new thing for most people to know about and grasp.
Though we admittedly do share many characteristics with the animals studied here, we also have the ability to override many of those with conscious decisionmaking.
I'm not too familiar with conscious decisionmaking, but there is relatively little "wrong" with being overweight. Most of the problems are experienced much later in life if ever (eg, diabetes or heart disease). Its easy to get food, so that is not a problem. Nobody really needs to be in shape to drive to work and do their job. The biggest immediate problem is social problems with dating, getting overlooked for jobs, and similar issues.
Genes and your immediate family basically make up practically everything you are. I know people with extremely high metabolisms that can eat and drink like no tomorrow and still be 6' tall and weigh 150 lbs. I know people at the other end of the spectrum as well. I do believe that genes play a big role in being overweight. My nephew has always been chubby since he was very small despite that neither of his parents or sister are overweight. One way to look at it, is that these people are lucky in some degree. It takes less food for them to survive. However, once the weight starts coming on, it takes a decent amount of food just to keep the fat alive. I saw on some TV program where a person that is something like 150 lbs overweight has to eat basically the amount of food for another person just to feed the fat. Crazy when you think about it.
I was thinking that if Jimmy Carter was an introvert, then it might be a good thing we don't elect introverts.
For some reason, I've always liked Carter. I believe he was the best president during my lifetime. A more objective measure shows that he was about average with an average score of 26 out of 43.
Keep in mind that Abraham Lincoln is hovering around #1,2, or 3 on the list. He was an introvert. And would NEVER be elected to any kind of political office today. For some reason, that bothers me.
The test was also not entirely fair since it only showed images of the emails. For this kind of thing, I always hit view source, and read the headers and the markup before making a decision - and then usually go to the site by typing in the address and logging in manually, rather than clicking on a link.
Phishing scams are not targeted at people like you. Most people have no clue how to read email headers. It is not easy. I admin a mail server, and sometimes I have to decipher what in the world is going on with a bounced mail sometimes, especially when bounced mails are another form of phishing. HTML source. That is well beyond most people as well. It looks scary, and like a foreign language. Typing in an address manually. The keyboard is not considered user friendly. It has too many buttons.
Oh. And I type my urls into google. I don't trust my typing any more than I trust a commercial mail from somebody.
3,9 for example would be very nice to see the headers of.
I got it "wrong" because the url at the bottom was from links.bankofamerica1.com:8082. Notice the _1_ there, and the strange port number.
The mail seemed pretty benign, but it looked more than suspicious to me. Personally, given the information available via the picture, I would estimate that the Bank of America mail was not valid at all.
That test is a waste. The 'emails' are image files, so you can't see where the actual links point to, you can't see the email header or the true from address. Anyone who nails 100% is more lucky then savey.
I got 7 out of 10 correct, and the ones I missed were "legitimate" and I flagged them as phishing. I would NEVER respond to any of these kinds of mail. I tried to pretend that some of the mails were legitimate, but I'm pretty immune to these kinds of things. Mostly due to spamassassin.
Oh, and I didn't realize that people still viewed HTML emails. Besides women that wanted backgrounds in their emails, I don't know why anybody ever did.
Plain and simple, HTML email is evil and should never be used (IMNSHO).
Also, the mails had status information at the bottom. Is that normal? I thought that it was more common to hide relevant information from users.
Also, "normal" people don't know what headers are nor do they know how to read them.
Quantizing drug profits is almost impossible. Good marijuana has little profit value because of people selling it to help people out. "Drug lord" marijuana has profit values at the higher level, but not at the lower level. Most of the 1st tear (I have no clue how to spell that) drug sellers oftentimes only sell drugs to get free drugs for themselves. Its akin to slave labor to their habit.
I had a boss that was allergic to gotos. It pissed me off, but oh well.
And as the parent said, yes, they lead to more readable and efficient code. They are used in low level code like the Linux kernel and OpenSSL extensively, and when I do system level programming I use them too.
I use them when "the shit hits the fan", and I need to clean up my memory or whatever, and return from the function with an error code.
That same boss suggested code like the first one in the above example, or the infamous do { stuff; } while (0); with break statements. Well, break does not work well with nested loops now does it?
I think that the allergy to gotos came from the BASIC days where the goto was a line number and not a label, and the gotos then were equivalent to a longjump(), meaning that the jump could go anywhere in the code. C gotos can only go to a label within a function (I guess. If this is wrong, I've never seen anybody use it otherwise, nor should they).
Aside, from basic C style exception handling, I don't see a need to use a goto anymore than to use a switch statement for one or two cases (which is almost the same as a goto).
Also, Perl has good uses for goto, but its a little different. You can label individual loops with, uh, a label, and you can say stuff like last outer_loop or whatever you want.
Trust me, I've seen tons of crappy code that never used a goto, and I've seen tons of good code that have used goto. It does have its uses, and I will use it until something better is added to the C language.
Granted the conventions are routinely flouted, and that those able to enforce them show little inclination to do so. Is that really an argument for making the system easier to abuse?
Without TLDs, there is nothing to abuse.
That's like trying to reduce crime in a high crime area by removing all the locks
Its more like trying to make an argument by analogy by comparing apples and black holes by removing the blackness. 99% of the time arguments by analogy leads to dumbass comments like mine to say how poor the analogy is. They are about as effective as TLDs.
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Why is this country so anti-teenager?
They don't buy enough CDs or go to enough movies.
I would theoretically be able to download files more than 2GB
I'll give you the instructions and registers, but being that I've used Linux and other 64bit OSes for 7 or 8 years now, I can tell you that 64bit apps are just like 32bit ones in that they have to be explicitly compiled for largefile support. That is unless this has changed by default in the past year or so, but regardless 32bit Linux has supported largefiles for quite some time.
FWIW, most Solaris apps are programmed in 32bit mode because the are faster, but that may be different with the AMD chips.
Come on guys, give us 64 bits! Do we dare risk a build from source?
I really don't know for sure, but I thought that AMD64s could run 32bit code, or this could be an OS limitation.
I'm sure that any plugins like flash or java will not be available if you desire them.
At this time, does anybody need more than 4 gigs of RAM for a browser? I guess your intranet might be special, but mind and the internet web sites are usually need less than 1 Gig of RAM.
I've compiled mozilla. Its not that bad.
OK. Now, with your script, perform a recount.
!!
That repeats the last command for non-unix people.
The data is still there just like a pen and paper system. It could even be oursourced to another country if need be.
Verify that a miscount did not take place.
Ditto.
Prove that each voter's vote was recorded as they intended.
The voter must be anonymous for his/her vote, but there is a count of the people coming into the voting place. That number should equal the number of votes. That data could be human tallied with a datestamp, and then the votes could be datestamped. They won't be exactly the same, but same ballpark. The source is open for everybody to read right? (Just like the mechanical machines have their schematics available, right?) I guess you could give the person a receipt, but that would kill the anonymity part.
Show that only voters eligible to vote voted, and
that each only voted once.
Humans already do this with the mechanical and pen and paper methods by unlatching the screen before or after every voter enters/exits or the person only gets one paper ballot.
All the computer is doing here is storing and counting data. I guess I'm still missing something.
Diebold is frequently dinged for their ATMs whenever this topic arises. There are many fair criticisms and accusations against Diebold - this is not one of them. Banking termials are a fundamentally different set of problems than those presented by voting. Hell, aside from that, ATMs can depend on a well-connected private backbone network, with company owned lines and premise equipment.
Am I missing something?
If a computer can do anything, it can enumerate and add integer data.
A couple of abacuses can do that.
I mean seriously, when I first heard about the inability of our government to count back in the 2000 election, I was appalled. I mean, I browse the census website for fun sometimes, and they apparently gather much more difficult data than this.
I mean, here's a perl script to do it in one line (I guess its really two or more bunched together, but...):
while (<>) { chomp; $candidate = $_; $votes{$candidate}++;}; foreach $candidate ( keys %votes) { print "$candidate: $votes{$candidate}\n";}
I guess it would be better to sort the data by the vote, but still thats the meat of the necessary code. I guess there is logging and whatnot, but it can't be that tough to emulate a ballot box with a machine.
I checked all the stories submitted by him, and didn't see the link in his name ever change from the George Harrison site.
.sigs and email addresses, URLs, etc are dynamic and updated immediately unless you are reading the .shtml file or a stale cached version.
All of the
Note that this is a legal spelling. Defense (American English) and defence (British English and Canadian English).
My bad. I thought it was a simple typo and I was trying to be funny, but got an Insightful moderation instead. Should probably be flamebate or offtopic.
So before being pedantic, better first check you are right.
/bin/sh. Anyway, my shell, zsh, has a manpage called zshbuiltins, and cd is listed there. Its under the builtins section of the csh shell's manpage.
I'm always right and I never lie!
Note that even if sudo successfully executed the cd command (say, by executing it in a root subshell), the intended effect will not happen (because the directory change would only happen in the subshell - which immediatly terminates afterwards -, and the original shell's current directory will not be affected).
Yup. That is why I thought it was funny. 'cd' has to either be a builtin for a shell or something you do inside of another program, chdir() is the usual case. Plus bash is not the sanest of shells for interactive use (ouch, I feel the downwards moderation already). Read the INVOCATION section if you don't believe me. Its not entirely bash's fault because it has tons of legacy junk left over from
For me, a command is something which I can type in a shell. It may execute a shell builtin, a shell function, an alias, or an executable found in the path, but in any case it's a command.
Fine. TZ=zulu is a command? Type 'which TZ' if your shell has a builtin for which.
How can it distinguish the different chords? TFA only mentions two orange blobs (the two hands), but they don't say anything about how to recognize when the different strings are pressed.
Do you really play real and different chords and solos when playing air guitar?
Personally, I make the shit up because I don't know how to play guitar. Thats why I'm playing the air one.
I hate to be pedantic, but 'cd' is not a command. Its a shell builtin.
It was hilarious when a coworker tried to do 'sudo cd some_directory_with_strong_permissions', and was asking me why it wasn't working. What's scarier, is that she had sudo access. What's even more scary, is that she eventually took my job after I left.
Two **Beatles-Beatles stories on the front page at once? You guys might wnat to consider hiring him, he's clearly a journalistic power house. (Assuming he isn't already on the payroll, that is)
Actually, its 3 in 24 hours. Take a looke here: http://slashdot.org/~*%20*%20Beatles-Beatles
Its also nuts that this guy has already gotten his karma bumped up. I don't know how much accepted stories raises your karma, but this guy is brand new and has only posted a handful of comments.
Plus the George Harrison site that he is pumping really looks like it sucks. I've heard that he is a search engine optimizer or something. Don't really know what is going on here.
Marijuana is banned by the Olympic committee, even though it doesn't really give athletes an advantage. I ran track - and knew some athletes who smoked weed before meets. The reason: it takes the edge off. Being nervous and jumpy throws their rhythm off; and rhythm is everything when wins and losses are measured in the blink of an eye.
Am I the only one that sees a contradiction here?
Hmm. One fit, athletic, strong person... and one large local source of calories who isn't in terribly good shape and probably wouldn't be able to defend themselves as well. What was that you were saying about "little food?"
Funny. However, there does appear to be a variation in metabolism rates like height, and I guess that is there for some reason. Maybe its there just to feed more people with higher metabolism during ice ages. I don't know. I have no credible source beyond talking with a friend of mine, but he said that big people were the most likely to survive a nuclear strike. I don't know if its from radiation insulation, cold insulation, more efficient metabolism or whatever. But he was pretty certain that the bigger the better in that situation.
If its a missile defence system, surely the point is to SAVE lives, not take them? ;)
A system that takes away fences is more likely to HURT lives.
The U.S. government has killed perhaps 4 million people since the end of the 2nd world war.
Either your estimate is very conservative, wrong, or what I've heard is wrong. 4 mil / 58 years is _only_ about 68,000 a year. I thought it was more like 100,000 a year when I first read about it back in 2001.
If they weren't athletic they'd be dead - and therefore we would not be here. SO if its couch-potato in our genes then technically our ancestors would have been bloody lazy. And dino food. Survival of the fittest anyone?
OK, lets get that athletic person in the middle of an ice age with little food and a big person and see who lasts longer.
Research like this often does more harm than good, in my opinion.
Maybe people might be more selective in their breeding habits? Doubtful, but I guess genetics is still a pretty new thing for most people to know about and grasp.
Though we admittedly do share many characteristics with the animals studied here, we also have the ability to override many of those with conscious decisionmaking.
I'm not too familiar with conscious decisionmaking, but there is relatively little "wrong" with being overweight. Most of the problems are experienced much later in life if ever (eg, diabetes or heart disease). Its easy to get food, so that is not a problem. Nobody really needs to be in shape to drive to work and do their job. The biggest immediate problem is social problems with dating, getting overlooked for jobs, and similar issues.
Genes and your immediate family basically make up practically everything you are. I know people with extremely high metabolisms that can eat and drink like no tomorrow and still be 6' tall and weigh 150 lbs. I know people at the other end of the spectrum as well. I do believe that genes play a big role in being overweight. My nephew has always been chubby since he was very small despite that neither of his parents or sister are overweight. One way to look at it, is that these people are lucky in some degree. It takes less food for them to survive. However, once the weight starts coming on, it takes a decent amount of food just to keep the fat alive. I saw on some TV program where a person that is something like 150 lbs overweight has to eat basically the amount of food for another person just to feed the fat. Crazy when you think about it.
You forgot about the crack.
I was thinking that if Jimmy Carter was an introvert, then it might be a good thing we don't elect introverts.
For some reason, I've always liked Carter. I believe he was the best president during my lifetime. A more objective measure shows that he was about average with an average score of 26 out of 43.
Keep in mind that Abraham Lincoln is hovering around #1,2, or 3 on the list. He was an introvert. And would NEVER be elected to any kind of political office today. For some reason, that bothers me.
The test was also not entirely fair since it only showed images of the emails. For this kind of thing, I always hit view source, and read the headers and the markup before making a decision - and then usually go to the site by typing in the address and logging in manually, rather than clicking on a link.
Phishing scams are not targeted at people like you. Most people have no clue how to read email headers. It is not easy. I admin a mail server, and sometimes I have to decipher what in the world is going on with a bounced mail sometimes, especially when bounced mails are another form of phishing. HTML source. That is well beyond most people as well. It looks scary, and like a foreign language. Typing in an address manually. The keyboard is not considered user friendly. It has too many buttons.
Oh. And I type my urls into google. I don't trust my typing any more than I trust a commercial mail from somebody.
3,9 for example would be very nice to see the headers of.
I got it "wrong" because the url at the bottom was from links.bankofamerica1.com:8082. Notice the _1_ there, and the strange port number.
The mail seemed pretty benign, but it looked more than suspicious to me. Personally, given the information available via the picture, I would estimate that the Bank of America mail was not valid at all.
That test is a waste. The 'emails' are image files, so you can't see where the actual links point to, you can't see the email header or the true from address. Anyone who nails 100% is more lucky then savey.
I got 7 out of 10 correct, and the ones I missed were "legitimate" and I flagged them as phishing. I would NEVER respond to any of these kinds of mail. I tried to pretend that some of the mails were legitimate, but I'm pretty immune to these kinds of things. Mostly due to spamassassin.
Oh, and I didn't realize that people still viewed HTML emails. Besides women that wanted backgrounds in their emails, I don't know why anybody ever did.
Plain and simple, HTML email is evil and should never be used (IMNSHO).
Also, the mails had status information at the bottom. Is that normal? I thought that it was more common to hide relevant information from users.
Also, "normal" people don't know what headers are nor do they know how to read them.
Quantizing drug profits is almost impossible. Good marijuana has little profit value because of people selling it to help people out. "Drug lord" marijuana has profit values at the higher level, but not at the lower level. Most of the 1st tear (I have no clue how to spell that) drug sellers oftentimes only sell drugs to get free drugs for themselves. Its akin to slave labor to their habit.
You can't fit a 13cm disc drive into a standard enclosure! Who do they think they're going to sell these to!
Laser disk diehards!
I had a boss that was allergic to gotos. It pissed me off, but oh well.
And as the parent said, yes, they lead to more readable and efficient code. They are used in low level code like the Linux kernel and OpenSSL extensively, and when I do system level programming I use them too.
I use them when "the shit hits the fan", and I need to clean up my memory or whatever, and return from the function with an error code.
That same boss suggested code like the first one in the above example, or the infamous do { stuff; } while (0); with break statements. Well, break does not work well with nested loops now does it?
I think that the allergy to gotos came from the BASIC days where the goto was a line number and not a label, and the gotos then were equivalent to a longjump(), meaning that the jump could go anywhere in the code. C gotos can only go to a label within a function (I guess. If this is wrong, I've never seen anybody use it otherwise, nor should they).
Aside, from basic C style exception handling, I don't see a need to use a goto anymore than to use a switch statement for one or two cases (which is almost the same as a goto).
Also, Perl has good uses for goto, but its a little different. You can label individual loops with, uh, a label, and you can say stuff like last outer_loop or whatever you want.
Trust me, I've seen tons of crappy code that never used a goto, and I've seen tons of good code that have used goto. It does have its uses, and I will use it until something better is added to the C language.
Granted the conventions are routinely flouted, and that those able to enforce them show little inclination to do so. Is that really an argument for making the system easier to abuse?
Without TLDs, there is nothing to abuse.
That's like trying to reduce crime in a high crime area by removing all the locks
Its more like trying to make an argument by analogy by comparing apples and black holes by removing the blackness. 99% of the time arguments by analogy leads to dumbass comments like mine to say how poor the analogy is. They are about as effective as TLDs.