That's a big IF, as in IF you download them. GNU tools aren't part of the default Solaris Distro-- at least they weren't with 7 and 8. Maybe that's changed.
Before we went to all Macs with a Linux backbone, we always had to download stuff off of Sun Freeware to get a get reasonable commmand line tools.
Unfortunately they discredited the (true) story out of cowardice. The story was rock solid without the documents, and the source of those documents (or their underlying "larger truth" has not fully been proven.
**Note to mod. Go ahead, mark me as "troll" again you gutless right-wing bootlicker.
The story wasn't fake. One piece of evidence was not corroborated (never proven false by the way) and the right wing spin machine went into overdrive to "discredit" the story.
Fact is, Dubya was AWOL, and no one had the guts to say it loud enough.
Historically no. Sun has never made their own KDE build, leaving those who favor kde to rely on dedicated (non-sun) volunteers.
As for their GNOME buld, last I checked it has been lagging about 3 revisions behind... Our office dumped Solaris sun blades for Macs last year and we're quite happy. And less you think I'm a mac zealot, I run linux at home--even on my sparc...
A full Slackware install EVEN WITH having to download and Dropline is going to be the fastest (by an order of magnitude) path to a working desktop. Slackware remains the easiest to maintain as well. If nothing else, most of us that use it for servers (and there are a lot of us) will continue to use it for a desktop.
Simplicity has always been Slackware's strong point.
And as for not having Gnome losing software, I don't think Gnome or KDE are the same exactly between any two distros.
Further, isn't Slackware still the only commercial distro that makes a profit? I don't see it going anywhere. Even if Pat said "the hell with it!", I think the user base is strong enough to keep it going-- just like debian and Gentoo...
I'd be disappointed, but that's about it. I don't use gnome as a desktop-- I use Fluxbox and occasionally KDE-- but I do run a lot of apps that use Gnome/GTK2 settings. Thus I use the gnome-settings-daemon to give a unified look to Firefox, thunderbird, Gaim and the Gimp, to name a few.
Perhaps because I don't use Gnome as a desktop I've preferred Pat's implementation of it. (Less work and all...) That said, I usually end up having to do some compiling to get the (non-essential) Gnome stuff like gphoto running.
This certainly wouldn't make me quit using Slackware, though if Pat put out a limited Gnome framework I would probably still use that over Dropline-- Just because I could rsync slackware-current and upgradepkg *.tgz.
I'd say many of us know the reason, but the reason is about two centuries out of date. The fairest way to have your vote count (and if the state is solid red or blue, it won't) is to have national instant run-off voting.
No, that's an attempt at legitimate reporting. If there was an anti-Bush bias we'd hear a lot more coverage concerning the treasonous outing of Valerie Plame, the refusal to allow footage of the coffins at Dover, the torture memo Ashcroft refuses to release, the lies used to justify going to war, the ties the administration has to those profitting from the war, the fact that Bush's largest contributor headed an energy company that defrauded and nearly bankrupted California, why Bush didn't take immediate action on Sept. 11, the fact that his campaign commercials used fake firemen, the fact that his administration has cut funds to firemen in New York, the fact that he has extended the tours of those serving in the military AND has cut their benefits, ad infinitum.
Until we hear a little more about any of those (i.e. not on page 13), yes, there is a pro-Bush bias.
So your idea of a journalist is someone clearly biased to the left?
Read what I said. I said in discussions, they don't have a rep from the left. However they do have the members of the drooling non-sensical right present. There is absolutely no balance.
Personally, I see a radical Pro-Bush bias on CNN and MSNBC, I don't even bother w/ Faux News.
If you don't believe me, watch any discussion on MSNBC and CNN/ They will have one right-wing commentator, and one journalist acting as a centrist. There is rarely a left wing point of view. I would say that the least offensive shows are those with Countdown with Keith Olbermann and Newsnight with Aaron Brown. Of the main networks, CBS (notably nightly news and Face the Nation) is the fairest.
If you want real news and a thoughtful take on politics and the world, check out TalkingPointsMemo. Josh Marshall is probably the best journalist out there (excluding perhaps the New Yotker's Seymour Hersh) today. Check it out.
all system startups in Slack are in/etc/rc.d. What's to track down? Why should I suppose they change the behavior to not directly exec rc.whatever? THEY AREN'T SYMLINKS, as opposed to the stuff in SysV systems. Nothing in Slackware does a/bin/sh/etc/rc.d/rc.whatever, to my knowledge.
I appreciate you telling us how easy chkconfig is, but the fact remains, you have a line to type either way. Someone who knows a bit about Slackware will probably find it less complicated to deal with than other systems.
upgradepkg *.tgz has always worked more cleanly for me than any rpm upgrade. it also keeps/var/log/packages nice and clean (free from redundancies) if you always upgrade rather than just install new packages.
Golden Rule: upgradepkg --install-new *.tgz
(if package to be upgraded is not installed, install and proceed)
I'm curious, does the Fedora cd include kernel source? I know it's not the thing to suggest, but you could make menuconfig, check read NTFS, make modules, make modules_install (then modprobe or insmod ntfs.o). Is it possible the module was included and not turned on? (Help me out here, I don't run Fedora-- Slackware all the way here.)
I realize some people (or most if you consider people who just want to install and have everything) don't want to have to "turn things on", but I'd like to know if Fedora doen't include the means to read NTFS, or just doesn't enable it by default.
Slashdot Mirror
That's a big IF, as in IF you download them. GNU tools aren't part of the default Solaris Distro-- at least they weren't with 7 and 8. Maybe that's changed.
Before we went to all Macs with a Linux backbone, we always had to download stuff off of Sun Freeware to get a get reasonable commmand line tools.
Actually he's almost always right.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200501120004
Unfortunately they discredited the (true) story out of cowardice. The story was rock solid without the documents, and the source of those documents (or their underlying "larger truth" has not fully been proven.
**Note to mod. Go ahead, mark me as "troll" again you gutless right-wing bootlicker.
The story wasn't fake. One piece of evidence was not corroborated (never proven false by the way) and the right wing spin machine went into overdrive to "discredit" the story.
Fact is, Dubya was AWOL, and no one had the guts to say it loud enough.
Again, How is the Immediate parent offtopic?
Note to Mods: Since when is saying "If I had Mod points" Offtopic?
Stuff that matters. Science (with all its pros and cons) is always slashdot material.
If I had mod points I'd give you +1 for Insightful Sarcasm.
This sounds like that "Compassionate Conservatism" crap I keep hearing about.
Look forward to our Disney-Cartoon Millenial masters.
- Will Solaris suit for desktops?
Historically no. Sun has never made their own KDE build, leaving those who favor kde to rely on dedicated (non-sun) volunteers.
As for their GNOME buld, last I checked it has been lagging about 3 revisions behind... Our office dumped Solaris sun blades for Macs last year and we're quite happy. And less you think I'm a mac zealot, I run linux at home--even on my sparc...
I for one, recognize the King Crimson reference.
Maybe because he does his job with professionalism, as opposed to-- oh say anyone at CNN, FoxNews, or MSNBC (with the exception of Keith Olbermann)...
A full Slackware install EVEN WITH having to download and Dropline is going to be the fastest (by an order of magnitude) path to a working desktop. Slackware remains the easiest to maintain as well. If nothing else, most of us that use it for servers (and there are a lot of us) will continue to use it for a desktop.
Simplicity has always been Slackware's strong point.
And as for not having Gnome losing software, I don't think Gnome or KDE are the same exactly between any two distros.
Further, isn't Slackware still the only commercial distro that makes a profit? I don't see it going anywhere. Even if Pat said "the hell with it!", I think the user base is strong enough to keep it going-- just like debian and Gentoo...
I'd be disappointed, but that's about it. I don't use gnome as a desktop-- I use Fluxbox and occasionally KDE-- but I do run a lot of apps that use Gnome/GTK2 settings. Thus I use the gnome-settings-daemon to give a unified look to Firefox, thunderbird, Gaim and the Gimp, to name a few.
Perhaps because I don't use Gnome as a desktop I've preferred Pat's implementation of it. (Less work and all...) That said, I usually end up having to do some compiling to get the (non-essential) Gnome stuff like gphoto running.
This certainly wouldn't make me quit using Slackware, though if Pat put out a limited Gnome framework I would probably still use that over Dropline-- Just because I could rsync slackware-current and upgradepkg *.tgz.
Command line ftp lead me to a mirror that hadn't been updated.
I'd say many of us know the reason, but the reason is about two centuries out of date. The fairest way to have your vote count (and if the state is solid red or blue, it won't) is to have national instant run-off voting.
Right now we have tyranny of small states.
No, that's an attempt at legitimate reporting. If there was an anti-Bush bias we'd hear a lot more coverage concerning the treasonous outing of Valerie Plame, the refusal to allow footage of the coffins at Dover, the torture memo Ashcroft refuses to release, the lies used to justify going to war, the ties the administration has to those profitting from the war, the fact that Bush's largest contributor headed an energy company that defrauded and nearly bankrupted California, why Bush didn't take immediate action on Sept. 11, the fact that his campaign commercials used fake firemen, the fact that his administration has cut funds to firemen in New York, the fact that he has extended the tours of those serving in the military AND has cut their benefits, ad infinitum.
Until we hear a little more about any of those (i.e. not on page 13), yes, there is a pro-Bush bias.
So your idea of a journalist is someone clearly biased to the left?
Read what I said. I said in discussions, they don't have a rep from the left. However they do have the members of the drooling non-sensical right present. There is absolutely no balance.
Personally, I see a radical Pro-Bush bias on CNN and MSNBC, I don't even bother w/ Faux News.
If you don't believe me, watch any discussion on MSNBC and CNN/ They will have one right-wing commentator, and one journalist acting as a centrist. There is rarely a left wing point of view. I would say that the least offensive shows are those with Countdown with Keith Olbermann and Newsnight with Aaron Brown. Of the main networks, CBS (notably nightly news and Face the Nation) is the fairest.
If you want real news and a thoughtful take on politics and the world, check out TalkingPointsMemo. Josh Marshall is probably the best journalist out there (excluding perhaps the New Yotker's Seymour Hersh) today. Check it out.
all system startups in Slack are in /etc/rc.d. What's to track down? Why should I suppose they change the behavior to not directly exec rc.whatever? THEY AREN'T SYMLINKS, as opposed to the stuff in SysV systems. Nothing in Slackware does a /bin/sh /etc/rc.d/rc.whatever, to my knowledge.
I appreciate you telling us how easy chkconfig is, but the fact remains, you have a line to type either way. Someone who knows a bit about Slackware will probably find it less complicated to deal with than other systems.
in slackware to make apache start at boot--> /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd
/etc/rc.d/rc.httpd
chmod 755
To make it not start at boot-->
chmod 644
No script editing necessary.
upgradepkg *.tgz has always worked more cleanly for me than any rpm upgrade. it also keeps /var/log/packages nice and clean (free from redundancies) if you always upgrade rather than just install new packages.
Golden Rule: upgradepkg --install-new *.tgz
(if package to be upgraded is not installed, install and proceed)
I love Slack...
I'm curious, does the Fedora cd include kernel source? I know it's not the thing to suggest, but you could make menuconfig, check read NTFS, make modules, make modules_install (then modprobe or insmod ntfs.o). Is it possible the module was included and not turned on? (Help me out here, I don't run Fedora-- Slackware all the way here.)
I realize some people (or most if you consider people who just want to install and have everything) don't want to have to "turn things on", but I'd like to know if Fedora doen't include the means to read NTFS, or just doesn't enable it by default.
Couldn't I listen to Celine Dion, Kenny G, or one of those "Sunny Soft Rock" stations if I wan't watered down?
Next you'll be advocating light beer...