Its not an issue of whether Java is portable, but how your app conforms to the various web application standards and how well those standards are implemented on the various server platforms.
AFAIK, most app-server vendors provide different levels of support, and even when they support the same standards they have differing interpretations or tools to work with. Sounds like a pain at best. At least for J2EE components. My guess is that simple WAR files will be easily transportable.
Aren't you a smarty! That high-school chemistry class really clued you in didn't it. Read the article dumbass, you don't understand what the 'mystery' is.
I think the editor cut out the preface to the posting that said:
Hi, I'm a thirteen year old video game fanatic with an overburdened imagination. I thought I'd make up this really exotic sounding question and get on the front page of Slashdot!
You'd expect most religious leaders to be advocates against theft. If anyone actually still believes in those silly Abrahamic, law-based religions then they ought to listen.
But, my guess is that the editors think we (the American/European majority here) should care because:
The statement was made by a Muslim, and we ought to do anything we can to get something that makes Islam look silly into the news. (Helps us ignore the embarassing history of the Euro-Christian tradition).
We're all cheap asses, and we don't like to pay for stuff. When anyone says we should pay for something that isn't free we all whine and claim that evil capitalists are trying to make us pay for something we say we don't want anyway.
if it rains in zimbabwe 5 years from now who cares...
Um, the people in Zimbabwe do. Maybe you've heard that they're starving due to drought?
You're confusing the issue. It's not about fluid dynamics and modelling specific weather at a given point in time. It's about average conditions due to the change of composition of the atmosphere. Granted, there's not enough data, and its good to be skeptical and properly scientific before trying to solve a problem we don't know exists. But you ought to refrain from ranting about what you don't understand.
What's that about commercial software being rushed out the door incomplete?
1.3 is just a number, a stake in the ground. The idea that 1.0 is the first stable release is a marketeerism, and I'm sure the Hurd kids don't have a bunch of MBAs on their back trying to help decide what the most strategic release number is.
If you think Hurd is rushed, you should put down the crackpipe. It seems the glass in my window frame is in more of a hurry to melt than the Hurd developers are to get a production release out.
I agree for with the recs for resin and orion, however, I wouldn't stay away from tomcat. IMHO, its very useful for developers to develop in tomcat in diverse environments before moving to a higher performing production environment. That way they can focus on building a proper war format app that should be portable to Resin, Orion, iPlanet, etc. Because Tomcat is supposed to be the reference version, ideally everyone would at least have there app setup and working in it.
I'm 25, and have a family, night school is out of the question.
I'm early twenties, a programmer (more than a full time job), wife and kids. I go to school, and commute two hours a day to do it. I wake up at 5 to get to school by 7:30 so that I can attend class and get to work by nine. I use my lunch break to go back to school for class again. Do homework after the kids settle down (if they do, usually passed 11). It's a pain in the ass, and I'm barely surviving, but it is possible. I don't know if you have some particularly difficult situation (e.g. illness in the family), but my guess is that you could do it if you really wanted to.
You'd have to be able to adjust the blood pressure baselines based on the current activity. My blood pressure is generally elevated due to various chemical combinations in the blood stream. Doesn't mean I'm stressed, or nervous - just that I'm coding. Furthermore, my suspicion is that my productivity is directly related to the ammount of stimulants in my system, so perhaps my computer could keep metrics and alert me when I need to refuel (more coffee, more crack, more porn, etc...)
Nothing like a 'perfectly' statement to discredit a story.
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Relax. Anyone who might actually be negatively impacted by this 'misinformation' deserves to be. If Joe Dumbass, your favorite/.er wanna-be Linux guru, tries to use this blurb in one of those all-to-frequent KDE vs. GNOME pissing contests, that's his own problem. Anyone who really develops with QT or was investigating such would quickly get to the bottom of it.
Slashdot has never had any semblance of journalistic integrity; it's a highly slanted, amature-turned-pro bulletin board. The editors themselves rarely read beyond the headlines they post, I take everything here with a lake of salt.
Bottom line (not that anyone's still reading this): it's all in good fun. Relax and enjoy the community.
Callum, Spouting off because he thinks he's smart, not cos he's right. Ass
Quick to jump to conclusions aren't we?
I think you're wrong about slashdot readers. A good part of them are wanna-be Linux users, and most of the rest are wanna-be knowledgable Linux users who pretend that because they can install a big-name distro all by themselves everyone will believe they're really intelligent. And then there are those few of us who don't have a juvenile mentality, and are comfortable enough with our Unix skills to not be afraid to mention Win32 software when it's relevant.
I didn't make the point because I frequently use either Morpheus or Gnucleus. When Morpheus made the announcement I tried both of them--curious to see how far they'd forked the Gnucleus code, and what they'd added.
My observation is just that there is no value in extending GPL software if your strategy is to only add shitty non-features.
Now that Morpheus is just a hacked-up (or down;-) version of Gnucleus, there's really no point in using it anyway. I don't see what it provides that Gnucleus doesn't, other than annoyance.
Why do people in Seattle and San Jose need 300 hp SUVs?
I'm working on a dual 450 Ultra 80 with a gig of RAM and a 128M graphics card. We write business software, so I need the ram and the procs, but the card is overkill. Before the bubble burst and we ordered a batch of Sun's, there was still plenty of money to be had and the people doing the purchasing wanted the best of everything--regardless of whether we needed it.
Now, without loads of spare capitol about, Sun sales reps. are going to have a hard time convincing companies like mine that they can't use hardware that costs 1/4 as much and functions nearly as well.
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I agree with you. I tend to get news of OSNews these days. It's like/., but without as much fluff, and most stories (although there are less) are actually interesting.
When I was first starting out in programming I read Booch's OOA&D, and spent the next while thinking he was one of the smartest people on the planet.
However, working with Rational's software has tainted Booch's name for me. After dropping the large amount of cache for the entire suite, I think many people realized it would have been better to spend the month or so of man hours getting open source tool x, y, and z up and customized for bug tracking, requirements management, etc; rather than dropping tens of thousands of dollars and spending several months with Rational eating data and hoping the next emergency patch will fix our problems.
I'm well aware of the difficulties in developing large scale software, and I'm not suprised---I've worked on software that was done similar things;-). But I'd hoped that Rational was a beacon of excellence in an industry full of buggy crap. I guess that's too much to hope for right now. Maybe in another 30 years when "software engineering" has become a _real_ discipline...
I was very impressed that the first edition of OOA&D had examples in CLOS, Smalltalk, C++, and Object Pascal (if I remember correctly). But I tend to think that when he publishes his next book it will be with examples in VBScript (probably on extending various MS Office products to interact with the Rational Suite, while alienating UNIX users).
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I can't find a single mirror that's been updated yet. I wish the goddamn editors would be considerate enough to not post stuff like this until the mirrors have had a chance to update. Pisses me off.
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Its not an issue of whether Java is portable, but how your app conforms to the various web application standards and how well those standards are implemented on the various server platforms.
AFAIK, most app-server vendors provide different levels of support, and even when they support the same standards they have differing interpretations or tools to work with. Sounds like a pain at best. At least for J2EE components. My guess is that simple WAR files will be easily transportable.
The obvious answer is a penis bird. Don't get a ferret, they smell like urine.
Relax, I might be kidding.
(Whats up with that anyway? Why is it in the computer industry people expect the standard work day to be 10-12 hours?)
Because they pay us more than Walmart associates and we don't own nice enough suits to warrent bankers' hours.
Aren't you a smarty! That high-school chemistry class really clued you in didn't it. Read the article dumbass, you don't understand what the 'mystery' is.
Norwegian, Nader, Handheld
Where do I get one of those? Sounds like an intelligent, consumer friend Volvo that fits in the palm of your hand.
I think the editor cut out the preface to the posting that said:
Hi, I'm a thirteen year old video game fanatic with an overburdened imagination. I thought I'd make up this really exotic sounding question and get on the front page of Slashdot!
But, my guess is that the editors think we (the American/European majority here) should care because:
Exactly :-)
What if they find something down there that should not be brought back up?
Venter will bring it up anyway, as long as he can squeeze some money out of it. And then he'll name it after himself.
if it rains in zimbabwe 5 years from now who cares...
Um, the people in Zimbabwe do. Maybe you've heard that they're starving due to drought?
You're confusing the issue. It's not about fluid dynamics and modelling specific weather at a given point in time. It's about average conditions due to the change of composition of the atmosphere. Granted, there's not enough data, and its good to be skeptical and properly scientific before trying to solve a problem we don't know exists. But you ought to refrain from ranting about what you don't understand.
What's that about commercial software being rushed out the door incomplete?
1.3 is just a number, a stake in the ground. The idea that 1.0 is the first stable release is a marketeerism, and I'm sure the Hurd kids don't have a bunch of MBAs on their back trying to help decide what the most strategic release number is.
If you think Hurd is rushed, you should put down the crackpipe. It seems the glass in my window frame is in more of a hurry to melt than the Hurd developers are to get a production release out.
I agree for with the recs for resin and orion, however, I wouldn't stay away from tomcat. IMHO, its very useful for developers to develop in tomcat in diverse environments before moving to a higher performing production environment. That way they can focus on building a proper war format app that should be portable to Resin, Orion, iPlanet, etc. Because Tomcat is supposed to be the reference version, ideally everyone would at least have there app setup and working in it.
I'm 25, and have a family, night school is out of the question.
I'm early twenties, a programmer (more than a full time job), wife and kids. I go to school, and commute two hours a day to do it. I wake up at 5 to get to school by 7:30 so that I can attend class and get to work by nine. I use my lunch break to go back to school for class again. Do homework after the kids settle down (if they do, usually passed 11). It's a pain in the ass, and I'm barely surviving, but it is possible. I don't know if you have some particularly difficult situation (e.g. illness in the family), but my guess is that you could do it if you really wanted to.
You'd have to be able to adjust the blood pressure baselines based on the current activity. My blood pressure is generally elevated due to various chemical combinations in the blood stream. Doesn't mean I'm stressed, or nervous - just that I'm coding. Furthermore, my suspicion is that my productivity is directly related to the ammount of stimulants in my system, so perhaps my computer could keep metrics and alert me when I need to refuel (more coffee, more crack, more porn, etc...)
...expanded rapidly, in a phenomenon astronomers call inflation
Damn, them astronomers sure is smart.
Make sure you post the contents of the cease and desist letter when you get it - oh... probably 15 minutes from now.
Cool. Hydrogen power, hottie blondes, and Bjork.
I'm moving in!
openMosix is perfectly scalable and adaptive
Nothing like a 'perfectly' statement to discredit a story.
Relax. Anyone who might actually be negatively impacted by this 'misinformation' deserves to be. If Joe Dumbass, your favorite /.er wanna-be Linux guru, tries to use this blurb in one of those all-to-frequent KDE vs. GNOME pissing contests, that's his own problem. Anyone who really develops with QT or was investigating such would quickly get to the bottom of it.
Slashdot has never had any semblance of journalistic integrity; it's a highly slanted, amature-turned-pro bulletin board. The editors themselves rarely read beyond the headlines they post, I take everything here with a lake of salt.
Bottom line (not that anyone's still reading this): it's all in good fun. Relax and enjoy the community.
Callum, Spouting off because he thinks he's smart, not cos he's right. Ass
Quick to jump to conclusions aren't we?
I think you're wrong about slashdot readers. A good part of them are wanna-be Linux users, and most of the rest are wanna-be knowledgable Linux users who pretend that because they can install a big-name distro all by themselves everyone will believe they're really intelligent. And then there are those few of us who don't have a juvenile mentality, and are comfortable enough with our Unix skills to not be afraid to mention Win32 software when it's relevant.
I didn't make the point because I frequently use either Morpheus or Gnucleus. When Morpheus made the announcement I tried both of them--curious to see how far they'd forked the Gnucleus code, and what they'd added.
My observation is just that there is no value in extending GPL software if your strategy is to only add shitty non-features.
Now that Morpheus is just a hacked-up (or down ;-) version of Gnucleus, there's really no point in using it anyway. I don't see what it provides that Gnucleus doesn't, other than annoyance.
Why do people in Seattle and San Jose need 300 hp SUVs?
I'm working on a dual 450 Ultra 80 with a gig of RAM and a 128M graphics card. We write business software, so I need the ram and the procs, but the card is overkill. Before the bubble burst and we ordered a batch of Sun's, there was still plenty of money to be had and the people doing the purchasing wanted the best of everything--regardless of whether we needed it.
Now, without loads of spare capitol about, Sun sales reps. are going to have a hard time convincing companies like mine that they can't use hardware that costs 1/4 as much and functions nearly as well.
I agree with you. I tend to get news of OSNews these days. It's like /., but without as much fluff, and most stories (although there are less) are actually interesting.
When I was first starting out in programming I read Booch's OOA&D, and spent the next while thinking he was one of the smartest people on the planet.
;-). But I'd hoped that Rational was a beacon of excellence in an industry full of buggy crap. I guess that's too much to hope for right now. Maybe in another 30 years when "software engineering" has become a _real_ discipline...
However, working with Rational's software has tainted Booch's name for me. After dropping the large amount of cache for the entire suite, I think many people realized it would have been better to spend the month or so of man hours getting open source tool x, y, and z up and customized for bug tracking, requirements management, etc; rather than dropping tens of thousands of dollars and spending several months with Rational eating data and hoping the next emergency patch will fix our problems.
I'm well aware of the difficulties in developing large scale software, and I'm not suprised---I've worked on software that was done similar things
I was very impressed that the first edition of OOA&D had examples in CLOS, Smalltalk, C++, and Object Pascal (if I remember correctly). But I tend to think that when he publishes his next book it will be with examples in VBScript (probably on extending various MS Office products to interact with the Rational Suite, while alienating UNIX users).
I can't find a single mirror that's been updated yet. I wish the goddamn editors would be considerate enough to not post stuff like this until the mirrors have had a chance to update. Pisses me off.