Oh my fucking god. Yes. Yes. and Yes. You actually get it. Raised in the evangelical south, I get so frustrated listening to my liberal friends talk about religion.
You, my good friend SuricouRaven, get it.
To those of you raised in areas where christianity does not have control over the culture: the parent post is clear and accurate account of the evangelical psychological resistance to evolution.
> Couldn't it have been possible that there WAS no missing link, and that suddenly a > fish was hatched with legs, capable of breathing air?
As someone who studies evolution in artificial life models, the answer is yes. However, it in general its a bad stragety to have large mutation step sizes.
You are completely right that the "step" of evolution is a mutation. And steps of mutation can either be very large or very small. In general however, your ancestors are alive because of all the many many many possible genetic combinations their genes were the ones that worked. If you start doing massive random mutational deviations from your parents, you are more likely to end up someplace worse than your parents than someplace better.
That said, it is entirely possible to have large step sizes, and you can see many evolutionary strageties that utilize different step sizes for mutation. But in general, as your stepsize of mutation rate increases, the liklihood of viable offspring decreases. However, if you can spit out 1,000,000 children no problem, then that low viability rate isn't an issue.
They will sue you immediately. Being students, we are in VERY different positions from 'respected' researchers at larger corporations. You are a small student with low cash resources, you do not have the ability to fight small legal battles, let alone those against a large company in a high-tech case requiring very expensive tech-law specialist lawyers so you don't goto jail.
As you likely want to publish it anyway, (which is udnerstandable) I recommend a few options:
1) Publish anonymously, preferably in the underground. Bugtraq, 2600, and other such resources are recommendations.
2) Find some professor or at least some person with a respected position to publish with.
3) Get word of the security vulnerability strictly to the company (i.e. Mass Fax Spam, phone calls, etc.) After that go blackhat if they do not fix the vulnerability. (They won't BTW)
Bottom line: DO NOT PUBLISH IN A PUBLIC FORUM UNLESS YOU HAVE A PROFESSOR OR SOME OTHER SECURITY PERSON MUCH HIGHER UP TO PUBLISH WITH YOU. And under _NO_ circumstances, should you publish with full disclosure. Students doing full-disclosure almost demands for a lawsuit which will break you. Go blackhat long before you go full disclosure.
E-mail me virgilNO_a,t_yak_SPAM_do,t_net if you'd like to talk more about this.
Something I have certainly learned about lawsuits, it is that they are usually used not in conjunction with technical fixes, but instead of them. Odds are likely these DirectTV holes will not be fixed. If anyone has copies of these guys work please post.
The assumption is that human intelligence and human minds are really nothing more than a program in of themselves. The criticism that these AI computer programs are 'simply following a mindless program' would be responded with, "Well of course it's just following a program! So am I except that instead of code my brain is following a program of interactions among neurons and chemicals based upon the laws of physics and chemistry!"
-- An assumption of the field of AI is that all human mind and intelligence is essentially a computer program, or if not that it is a machine of some sort.
WTF, they actually expect us to USE something like that!? *Sigh* I'd take a standard gateway mouse over that. That'd be hell on the wrists for long term use, and bad grip for gaming.
All in all, useless except for tradeshows and to make your computer look uber-|33t when you're NOT USING IT.
However, what about those people that run default cfg's and accidentially put their passwords lists online to those who know the default cfg problem? (I've seen this happen a few times before)
Granted, it is a very very stupid error, but getting that password list (even though it is online) I would say constitutes some level of hacking.
The argument that virtual child pornography whets pedophiles' appetites and encourages them to engage in illegal conduct is unavailing because the mere tendency of speech to encourage unlawful acts is not a sufficient reason for banning it, Stanley v. Georgia, 394 U.S. 557, 566, absent some showing of a direct connection between the speech and imminent illegal conduct, see, e.g., Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444, 447 (per curiam). --- Well, there ya go, take the it or leave it.
There's a very good reason those european cars are so small and fuel efficient, ever tried to buy gas in Europe? If gas prices were in America what they are in Europe, I'm certain we'd stop seeing those SUV's driving around. (or at least most of them)
America is wasteful because it can afford to be, if it ever got the point where we can no longer afford to be wasteful, we'd start playing catch-up with (and perhaps even overtake) the rest of the world in developing more efficient technologies.
I don't attend to MIT, but I'm fairly familiar with the campus/situations there. To my understanding, they are REQUIRED to pay at least $8.50 an hour for any students in UROP.
I'm not exactly certain whether it's 8.50 or 7.50 (but I'm about 80% sure it's $8.50 per hour.) But, I do know that they cannot pay students any less than that baseline.
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Oh my fucking god. Yes. Yes. and Yes. You actually get it. Raised in the evangelical south, I get so frustrated listening to my liberal friends talk about religion.
You, my good friend SuricouRaven, get it.
To those of you raised in areas where christianity does not have control over the culture: the parent post is clear and accurate account of the evangelical psychological resistance to evolution.
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> Couldn't it have been possible that there WAS no missing link, and that suddenly a
> fish was hatched with legs, capable of breathing air?
As someone who studies evolution in artificial life models, the answer is yes. However, it in general its a bad stragety to have large mutation step sizes.
You are completely right that the "step" of evolution is a mutation. And steps of mutation can either be very large or very small. In general however, your ancestors are alive because of all the many many many possible genetic combinations their genes were the ones that worked. If you start doing massive random mutational deviations from your parents, you are more likely to end up someplace worse than your parents than someplace better.
That said, it is entirely possible to have large step sizes, and you can see many evolutionary strageties that utilize different step sizes for mutation. But in general, as your stepsize of mutation rate increases, the liklihood of viable offspring decreases. However, if you can spit out 1,000,000 children no problem, then that low viability rate isn't an issue.
My identification so you know I'm not full of shit: -- http://features.slashdot.org/features/03/04/14/184 6250.shtml
They will sue you immediately. Being students, we are in VERY different positions from 'respected' researchers at larger corporations. You are a small student with low cash resources, you do not have the ability to fight small legal battles, let alone those against a large company in a high-tech case requiring very expensive tech-law specialist lawyers so you don't goto jail.
As you likely want to publish it anyway, (which is udnerstandable) I recommend a few options: 1) Publish anonymously, preferably in the underground. Bugtraq, 2600, and other such resources are recommendations.
2) Find some professor or at least some person with a respected position to publish with.
3) Get word of the security vulnerability strictly to the company (i.e. Mass Fax Spam, phone calls, etc.) After that go blackhat if they do not fix the vulnerability. (They won't BTW)
Bottom line: DO NOT PUBLISH IN A PUBLIC FORUM UNLESS YOU HAVE A PROFESSOR OR SOME OTHER SECURITY PERSON MUCH HIGHER UP TO PUBLISH WITH YOU. And under _NO_ circumstances, should you publish with full disclosure. Students doing full-disclosure almost demands for a lawsuit which will break you. Go blackhat long before you go full disclosure.
E-mail me virgilNO_a,t_yak_SPAM_do,t_net if you'd like to talk more about this.
Goodluck,
-Virgil
the first thing I read said, "SETI@Home publishes SkyNet."
Holy shit, distributed processing program on all of our computers. The machines plotting against us is already happening!
Something I have certainly learned about lawsuits, it is that they are usually used not in conjunction with technical fixes, but instead of them. Odds are likely these DirectTV holes will not be fixed. If anyone has copies of these guys work please post.
-Virgil
The assumption is that human intelligence and human minds are really nothing more than a program in of themselves. The criticism that these AI computer programs are 'simply following a mindless program' would be responded with, "Well of course it's just following a program! So am I except that instead of code my brain is following a program of interactions among neurons and chemicals based upon the laws of physics and chemistry!"
-- An assumption of the field of AI is that all human mind and intelligence is essentially a computer program, or if not that it is a machine of some sort.
-Romanpoet
WTF, they actually expect us to USE something like that!? *Sigh* I'd take a standard gateway mouse over that. That'd be hell on the wrists for long term use, and bad grip for gaming.
All in all, useless except for tradeshows and to make your computer look uber-|33t when you're NOT USING IT.
However, what about those people that run default cfg's and accidentially put their passwords lists online to those who know the default cfg problem? (I've seen this happen a few times before)
Granted, it is a very very stupid error, but getting that password list (even though it is online) I would say constitutes some level of hacking.
-Romanpoet
The argument that virtual child pornography whets pedophiles' appetites and encourages them to engage in illegal conduct is unavailing because the mere tendency of speech to encourage unlawful acts is not a sufficient reason for banning it, Stanley v. Georgia, 394 U.S. 557, 566, absent some showing of a direct connection between the speech and imminent illegal conduct, see, e.g., Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444, 447 (per curiam).
---
Well, there ya go, take the it or leave it.
There's a very good reason those european cars are so small and fuel efficient, ever tried to buy gas in Europe? If gas prices were in America what they are in Europe, I'm certain we'd stop seeing those SUV's driving around. (or at least most of them)
America is wasteful because it can afford to be, if it ever got the point where we can no longer afford to be wasteful, we'd start playing catch-up with (and perhaps even overtake) the rest of the world in developing more efficient technologies.
I don't attend to MIT, but I'm fairly familiar with the campus/situations there. To my understanding, they are REQUIRED to pay at least $8.50 an hour for any students in UROP.
I'm not exactly certain whether it's 8.50 or 7.50 (but I'm about 80% sure it's $8.50 per hour.) But, I do know that they cannot pay students any less than that baseline.