Hey, jackass. SCO isn't polluting, using child slaves, selling anything to terrorists, etc...
They're doing something of questionable intelligence and desperation, and it won't get them anywhere. Big F'ing deal.
Get some perspective, you people are fucking crazy and chrisd's company is obviously unprofessional. If they were public, a stunt like this would be the first sign to _sell_, _sell_, _sell_.
This is about business, not fanboy obsessions. SCO is making a mistake, and they'll pay for it. It has nothing to do with their coders, and only an asshole would quit SCO because of some pathetic pro-linux sensibility.
Leave SCO because they're on the way down - yes, that makes sense. Leave because you _love_ Linux - only if you're a really really big filthy geeky nerd with nothing else in your life.
Give it up - the people you are talking to are de facto _geeks_. They've somehow gotten topsy-turvy in their view of reality.
Somehow, Linux is important enough to lose your job and or starve your children over. Somehow their hatred of Microsoft is such that it overrides their typical dislike of big government (..unless it's going after Microsoft).
These people are the result of our generation's relatively easy life. Everybody's gotta have a cause, and when life's easy it ends up being something like computer operating systems.
Umm, there _is_ no debate. People should not be allowed to download music for listening purposes. They are not allowed, it's against the law, and these people aren't downloading 50 year old songs.
They're also not downloading all this great "free" music people bring up when they defend these services.
Right on. I've recently been working on a Java->C++ product that needs to run on both Windows and Unix. It's fairly OS intensive (e.g. stuff like piping to processes, impersonation, etc...).
Windows is _so_ much easier to develop in. The API is much richer,.NET kicks ass (picture.NET remoting in C++ - no dealing with crappy ass stubs/skeletons, you just develop an object and extend a specific class, and blam - it's remotable). The development tools are so much cleaner and powerful.
It's not close. This is one of the reasons Windows dominates the desktop and holds its own in the server arena - the development environment is so much better.
I know Unix developers who still use Emacs and Gvim, and claim they don't want all that fancy auto-completion, integrated help, etc... In fact, I'm reduced to doing this when I develop Unix code with g++. It sucks. It's god-damned primitive.
I'm smoking "truth". See, the windows "kernel", or the closest thing to it, is the HAL plus the kernel executive services. All that extra crap is part of the _OS_, yes, but not part of the kernel.
So if you compare things, either compare the kernel proper to kernel proper, or OS (Windows) to OS (Debian, RedHat, etc...).
With this "Joe Everybody" dipshit waxing on about how piracy probably doesn't hurt those "fat cat" producers, but it sure does hurt him, just a lowly workin' man.
It made me psychotic for a few minutes, with the pathetic attempt at manipulation.
Some cocksucker marketing (recent) graduates sat in a room and "brainstormed" about all the "excuses" people use to pirate. Then Little Franky Simms had his 8th grade breakthrough!
"Let's show them that it doesn't just hurt the rich people, it really hurts the working folk, like them!"
Beatrice Bouvier thought this was really fucking original and this "Joe Everybody" genius idea was the best they could come up with.
Jeses Christ weeps for the lack of imagination of today's marketing force. It's beyond insulting how stupid that commercial is.
I'm confused. You pointed out one kernel flaw, and a bunch of other flaws pertaining to RPC, network services, etc...
Then you go on to claim that (cough) Windows doesn't handle anywhere neare the functionality on its own?!?!
In other words, you're confused. Taken as an OS in whole (as part of your argument does), Windows does _far_ _far_ more than Linux or BSD (think network, RPC, the _huge_ win32 API, file services, etc).
Taken as a pure kernel, it doesn't do as much, but there is only one flaw you've referred to which is a pure kernel flaw.
Wow, that's some serious sophistry. Did you go to college to make such contorted arguments?
Face it - Unix security, in general, is almost as horrible as Windows security. You don't see many Unix kernel security flaws - fine. You _also_ do't see many NT kernel or low-level flaws, it's always the crap sitting on top in both cases.
You're clearly of questionable rationality, but I'll try anyway.
Let me offer you a small piece of advice to uncloud your thinking. Microsoft had released patches for all these holes some time ago. Now, with this piece of information, try - really _try_, to focus your thoughts on some more rational conclusions.
Is that nobody gives a shit about (relative to the numbers of Windows machines out there) _either_ Linux machine in the world enough to write a virus for it.
If they did, it would be very easy, there are plenty of Linux/Unix based exploits out there that go unpatched for ages.
Hey, rocket surgeon, do you want Linux developers to be sued when a bug causes problems? Especially when some asshole decides to use an unpatched Redhat 7.2 in a life-death situation?
Get real, hypocrite, if this was Linux you wouldn't be crying about libaility.
Why the hell aren't there any good, modern CypherPunk/Mixmaster/Nym enabled clients out there? The only good one I know of is Jack B Nymble, which is ancient.
I've seriously thought of writing a new one from scratch in Java, but I'm way, way too lazy.
Outlook is really a superior email client - period. The new version 2k3 is really nice - Unix mail clients will always be playing catch up because Microsoft has the developers and money.
And you can certainly go beyond the wizards in Outlook - but you need real balls and can't be some random "tech", you gotta write real code.
It's always the same with buggy whip drivers - they hate new technology.
People like HTML mail. It's easy to make tables, highlight important points, bullets, headings colored text, etc... Simply because a few aging hippies don't like it - it's not going away. It has nothing to do with spam.
Written by Phillip K Dick of Blade Runner and Minority Report, its a story about a top notch reverse engineer (Ben Affleck) who, after a quick memory wipe, finds trying to piece together the mystery of his past.
First, dear god someone get me a supercomputer so I can begin to parse that atrocious sentence.
Second, Ben-Lo's (aka Bennifer) career is done, I don't know why anyone would cast him in anything - he's made a joke of himself.
Hey, rocket surgeon. Did someone teach you in high school that copyright, trademarks, or patents were _physical_ entities? They are all, as you like to pointlessly quote, "IP". Hence, there is most certainly a concept (a generality) of "IP".
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Hey, jackass. SCO isn't polluting, using child slaves, selling anything to terrorists, etc...
They're doing something of questionable intelligence and desperation, and it won't get them anywhere. Big F'ing deal.
Get some perspective, you people are fucking crazy and chrisd's company is obviously unprofessional. If they were public, a stunt like this would be the first sign to _sell_, _sell_, _sell_.
This is about business, not fanboy obsessions. SCO is making a mistake, and they'll pay for it. It has nothing to do with their coders, and only an asshole would quit SCO because of some pathetic pro-linux sensibility.
Leave SCO because they're on the way down - yes, that makes sense. Leave because you _love_ Linux - only if you're a really really big filthy geeky nerd with nothing else in your life.
And OS loyalty isn't even worth thinking about, much less starving over.
Get with reality people, Linux is not important. SCO is not important. Microsoft is not important.
This is a business, and if you're a professional you do your job and you learn whatever technology the market is using at the time.
It's not a fanboy club for nerds. Get real.
Give it up - the people you are talking to are de facto _geeks_. They've somehow gotten topsy-turvy in their view of reality.
Somehow, Linux is important enough to lose your job and or starve your children over. Somehow their hatred of Microsoft is such that it overrides their typical dislike of big government (..unless it's going after Microsoft).
These people are the result of our generation's relatively easy life. Everybody's gotta have a cause, and when life's easy it ends up being something like computer operating systems.
Umm, there _is_ no debate. People should not be allowed to download music for listening purposes. They are not allowed, it's against the law, and these people aren't downloading 50 year old songs.
They're also not downloading all this great "free" music people bring up when they defend these services.
Right on. I've recently been working on a Java->C++ product that needs to run on both Windows and Unix. It's fairly OS intensive (e.g. stuff like piping to processes, impersonation, etc...).
.NET kicks ass (picture .NET remoting in C++ - no dealing with crappy ass stubs/skeletons, you just develop an object and extend a specific class, and blam - it's remotable). The development tools are so much cleaner and powerful.
Windows is _so_ much easier to develop in. The API is much richer,
It's not close. This is one of the reasons Windows dominates the desktop and holds its own in the server arena - the development environment is so much better.
I know Unix developers who still use Emacs and Gvim, and claim they don't want all that fancy auto-completion, integrated help, etc... In fact, I'm reduced to doing this when I develop Unix code with g++. It sucks. It's god-damned primitive.
Yeah, that's what the world needs - more jackass lawsuits.
"Quick, there's an injustice in the world, sue!"
Umm, a sentient being with an opinion.
Now for another daring expression of opinion: You're an ass.
I'm smoking "truth". See, the windows "kernel", or the closest thing to it, is the HAL plus the kernel executive services. All that extra crap is part of the _OS_, yes, but not part of the kernel.
So if you compare things, either compare the kernel proper to kernel proper, or OS (Windows) to OS (Debian, RedHat, etc...).
With this "Joe Everybody" dipshit waxing on about how piracy probably doesn't hurt those "fat cat" producers, but it sure does hurt him, just a lowly workin' man.
It made me psychotic for a few minutes, with the pathetic attempt at manipulation.
Some cocksucker marketing (recent) graduates sat in a room and "brainstormed" about all the "excuses" people use to pirate. Then Little Franky Simms had his 8th grade breakthrough!
"Let's show them that it doesn't just hurt the rich people, it really hurts the working folk, like them!"
Beatrice Bouvier thought this was really fucking original and this "Joe Everybody" genius idea was the best they could come up with.
Jeses Christ weeps for the lack of imagination of today's marketing force. It's beyond insulting how stupid that commercial is.
I'm confused. You pointed out one kernel flaw, and a bunch of other flaws pertaining to RPC, network services, etc...
Then you go on to claim that (cough) Windows doesn't handle anywhere neare the functionality on its own?!?!
In other words, you're confused. Taken as an OS in whole (as part of your argument does), Windows does _far_ _far_ more than Linux or BSD (think network, RPC, the _huge_ win32 API, file services, etc).
Taken as a pure kernel, it doesn't do as much, but there is only one flaw you've referred to which is a pure kernel flaw.
Wow, that's some serious sophistry. Did you go to college to make such contorted arguments?
Face it - Unix security, in general, is almost as horrible as Windows security. You don't see many Unix kernel security flaws - fine. You _also_ do't see many NT kernel or low-level flaws, it's always the crap sitting on top in both cases.
You're clearly of questionable rationality, but I'll try anyway.
Let me offer you a small piece of advice to uncloud your thinking. Microsoft had released patches for all these holes some time ago. Now, with this piece of information, try - really _try_, to focus your thoughts on some more rational conclusions.
Wow, that's convenient. If you spend money on marketing you're liable. If you're a Linux developer you're not.
What a wonderful world full of little fairies and beautiful grass huts you must live in.
Is that nobody gives a shit about (relative to the numbers of Windows machines out there) _either_ Linux machine in the world enough to write a virus for it.
If they did, it would be very easy, there are plenty of Linux/Unix based exploits out there that go unpatched for ages.
Hey, rocket surgeon, do you want Linux developers to be sued when a bug causes problems? Especially when some asshole decides to use an unpatched Redhat 7.2 in a life-death situation?
Get real, hypocrite, if this was Linux you wouldn't be crying about libaility.
Windows "specialist"? Right... She can boot it up and click around for a while without drooling on the keyboard is about all that means.
Bah, people have an irrational fear of GOTO. Use it when it makes sense.
Why the hell aren't there any good, modern CypherPunk/Mixmaster/Nym enabled clients out there? The only good one I know of is Jack B Nymble, which is ancient.
I've seriously thought of writing a new one from scratch in Java, but I'm way, way too lazy.
Outlook is really a superior email client - period. The new version 2k3 is really nice - Unix mail clients will always be playing catch up because Microsoft has the developers and money.
And you can certainly go beyond the wizards in Outlook - but you need real balls and can't be some random "tech", you gotta write real code.
It's always the same with buggy whip drivers - they hate new technology.
People like HTML mail. It's easy to make tables, highlight important points, bullets, headings colored text, etc... Simply because a few aging hippies don't like it - it's not going away. It has nothing to do with spam.
Written by Phillip K Dick of Blade Runner and Minority Report, its a story about a top notch reverse engineer (Ben Affleck) who, after a quick memory wipe, finds trying to piece together the mystery of his past.
First, dear god someone get me a supercomputer so I can begin to parse that atrocious sentence.
Second, Ben-Lo's (aka Bennifer) career is done, I don't know why anyone would cast him in anything - he's made a joke of himself.
You should have titled your post "How to make a pathetic attempt at a troll on SlashDot."
Try to be, umm, subtle next time?
You can always tell the geak, he's the little shit coorecting your grammer.
Fuckers.
Proofreading is for sucks, Paco.
Hey, rocket surgeon. Did someone teach you in high school that copyright, trademarks, or patents were _physical_ entities? They are all, as you like to pointlessly quote, "IP". Hence, there is most certainly a concept (a generality) of "IP".
Monkey.