The reality is a *nix developer has all of the options available to him; he is not constricted by artificial barriers; a Windows programmer is at the mercy of Microsoft - who can change APIs at the drop of a hat.
My ass. Developing on _Unix_ (in general) is painful because there are so many different versions of the API's, and each OS is just a little different. Windows has one API.
Next, Windows has a _much_ more powerful API. You can do things fairly easily in Windows that are downright painful in Unix (ever tried writing something that needs to probe the process table? Fucking nightmare on Unix, though if you pick any one flavor it's not too bad).
Windows has better threading support, a better asynchronous programming model, and a much more powerful network API.
And Microsoft isn't just going to go changing APIs at the drop of a hat. They do, umm, kind of write software for the OS and wouldn't want Office to break, now would they?
That's the thing you Unix zealots don't get - Microsoft has succeeded precisely because they've courted the developer - better tools, better documentation (sometimes _too_ much, admittedly), and a richer API.
You court the developer, you get more applications. You get more applications, you get more users. Simple, eh?
Don't be a neanderthal, there's no "law" that says you can't go FTL. That's like a group of 12th century nerds guffawing at a story about a man who went around the Earth.
"Ahahaha. It's a good story, but of course he would fall off the other side! Try to be more realistic."
You do realize that there can be sound in space, right? Both sound coming from whatever you're in (e.g. your spaceship) and sound from other sources. Space is not a 100% true vaccuum.
Vaguely familiar? They didn't patent the word 'chrome' or anything, nimwit, so why the link to a Mozilla page defining chrome with the vague implication that it's been done? The page you refer to has nothing to do with this patent other than the word "chrome".
Let's face it, everything's been done - companies get patents like this so they won't be sued by some pissant company with a patent portfolio (read: recent issue they had with some such company and web plugins). Also note, it specifies "Windows".
To a degree, yes. But the problem is that everyone thinks _they_ are the most important part of the whole show. Ask the developers, and they'll say they are. Ask engineers at a hardware company, and of course _they_ are the most important.
And they all tend to scoff at e.g. marketing, without whom the company would lose a whole lot of money. Or factory workers, without whom there would be no product.
The fact is that a lot of developers/engineers really aren't all that smart except in that one little area they work on.
Also, they usually fail to grasp that the environment they work in is exceedingly complex, especially in larger environments. It would be a fucking joke if you decided to let engineers/developers manage everything in a large company like e.g. HP, IBM, Intel, Microsoft, etc...
You also explain part of the problem yourself, cutbacks on IT staff. A lot of the time people will feel their so special or so smart (compared to everyone else, including their coworkers) that they should be allowed carte blache on their machine and any other machine, regardless of the cost.
This asinine call then costs the IT support person time that's crucially needed on fixing real issues.
I see both sides - I work in an IT group where my job is about 40% support and 60% software development.
In the hardware world, at lease, most of the users are very very task specific and the entire company would crumble if we let them do whatever they want. To us, their job seems something like magic since most IT people are software people. However, by and large most of them aren't terribly bright about the OS/software side of things.
True story, I've seen a customer write a script to monitor a system resource that was supposed to wake up every 5 minutes. Know what he did?
He wrote a 'while' loop that ran the Unix 'date' command repeatedly until the time matched the right pattern. I shit you not - not 'sleep(5 * 60)'. He actually ran 'date' in a while loop. This is the shit we deal with.
On the other hand, there are parts of IT that do indeed seem to work more towards their own goals than those of their customers.
The fundamental mistake you're making is in not understanding that you do not directly make money for your company, you _cost_ them money. The developers directly make them money.
Is this fair and accurate? Nope, of course not. But it's a simple fact that this is how upper management views things, and you'd be wise to grasp this concept.
A $699 computer my ass. You can get a better equipped machine from e.g. Dell for around $500, $600 tops.
Who is claiming the $699 pricetag? Is that like when some TV ad claims you're getting 8 trillion dollars worth (as determined by seller) of stuff for only $19.99?
You all act like it's a conspiracy, or something new...
E-business runs on IIS. End of story. You go out and look at a lot of little sites, including people's boring blogs, and sure - lots of apache. But you look at heavily used sites, business sites, and a lot of them run IIS.
Come on, legitimate P2P stuff like Linux distributions? Wink, Wink?
Who do you think you're kidding? P2P is used to illegally share copyrighted music. This is a fact. Quit with the "but what about all the free, independent music" and the "but there are legitimate things like Linux on P2P!".
So let me understand what you're saying, in words I can understand. I'll paraphrase, correct me if I'm wrong:
"I'm a stupid asshole."
Did I get it right?
See, 'new 32-bit chips' are what's selling the most, by far right now. Secondly, nobody needs a 64-bit x86 compatible processor. It's a stupid idea that you filthy nerds are buying into because you're being told to. How many of you even have 2G of memory, much less 4G? Why would you need x86 compatibility when you'll need to recompile everything to see any benefit anyway, and if you're doing that you can get a Madison/PPC/UltraSparc/PA-RISC machine thats 64-bits?
Lastly, rocket surgeon, the newest Itanium processors smoke the shit out of the PPC in their intended usage models - what the hell kind of stupid are you selling, cause I ain't buyin'.
You seem to have this idiotic idea that the 'best' way to get performance is to get better IPC, not more MHz. What a stupid idea. Whatever makes the processor perform better is the 'best' way.
And, stupid ass, given some static architecture XX, XX running at 3.5GHz will always be faster than XX running at 2.3GHz. No matter what your architecture you want it to run faster.
Uhh, buh? Unless you're from Germany, what possible logical sense does that make?
If you're from Germany, then sure - it's great. But if you're from the US then it makes no difference if the job's in Germany or Timbuktu, it's not in the US.
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Yeah, corky - one minor issue with that "analogy":
Windows is far, far, far more popular and successful than Linux, rocket surgeon.
You want a 3-chip LCOS display.
No color wheel, no rainbow effect. There might even be 3-chip DLP, but I'm not sure...
Hmm, they must be doing something right since they've gained vast market share from Palm, and keep growing.
Money talks, bullshit walks, I guess is what I'm saying.
My ass. Developing on _Unix_ (in general) is painful because there are so many different versions of the API's, and each OS is just a little different. Windows has one API.
Next, Windows has a _much_ more powerful API. You can do things fairly easily in Windows that are downright painful in Unix (ever tried writing something that needs to probe the process table? Fucking nightmare on Unix, though if you pick any one flavor it's not too bad).
Windows has better threading support, a better asynchronous programming model, and a much more powerful network API.
And Microsoft isn't just going to go changing APIs at the drop of a hat. They do, umm, kind of write software for the OS and wouldn't want Office to break, now would they?
That's the thing you Unix zealots don't get - Microsoft has succeeded precisely because they've courted the developer - better tools, better documentation (sometimes _too_ much, admittedly), and a richer API.
You court the developer, you get more applications. You get more applications, you get more users. Simple, eh?
I see, you are a biometrics expert, are you?
Not saying they're perfect, but don't pretend the people who make/design/decide on these don't know a lot more about it that you do.
It's called a 'typo' - not a spelling mistake, rocket surgeon.
Let's look at Newtonian physics. It sure did pass a lot of tests, and not too long ago people would have scoffed at relativity or quantum theory.
The fact is that modern physics is so full of itself, pronouncing "law" this, and "rule" that. It's really setting itself up for a big fall.
There are very few 'definite' laws in physics.
Modern theoretical phsyicists: It's called 'hubris', look it up.
You really are a primitive screwhead. I'm sure that 800 years ago the 'learned' were quite sure of many 'laws' that didn't quite pan out.
I never said anything about the human ear, I said sound can travel in space. Doucheberry.
Well, you're simply wrong, I'm afraid.
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Don't be a neanderthal, there's no "law" that says you can't go FTL. That's like a group of 12th century nerds guffawing at a story about a man who went around the Earth.
"Ahahaha. It's a good story, but of course he would fall off the other side! Try to be more realistic."
You do realize that there can be sound in space, right? Both sound coming from whatever you're in (e.g. your spaceship) and sound from other sources. Space is not a 100% true vaccuum.
Vaguely familiar? They didn't patent the word 'chrome' or anything, nimwit, so why the link to a Mozilla page defining chrome with the vague implication that it's been done? The page you refer to has nothing to do with this patent other than the word "chrome".
Let's face it, everything's been done - companies get patents like this so they won't be sued by some pissant company with a patent portfolio (read: recent issue they had with some such company and web plugins). Also note, it specifies "Windows".
To a degree, yes. But the problem is that everyone thinks _they_ are the most important part of the whole show. Ask the developers, and they'll say they are. Ask engineers at a hardware company, and of course _they_ are the most important.
And they all tend to scoff at e.g. marketing, without whom the company would lose a whole lot of money. Or factory workers, without whom there would be no product.
The fact is that a lot of developers/engineers really aren't all that smart except in that one little area they work on.
Also, they usually fail to grasp that the environment they work in is exceedingly complex, especially in larger environments. It would be a fucking joke if you decided to let engineers/developers manage everything in a large company like e.g. HP, IBM, Intel, Microsoft, etc...
You also explain part of the problem yourself, cutbacks on IT staff. A lot of the time people will feel their so special or so smart (compared to everyone else, including their coworkers) that they should be allowed carte blache on their machine and any other machine, regardless of the cost.
This asinine call then costs the IT support person time that's crucially needed on fixing real issues.
I see both sides - I work in an IT group where my job is about 40% support and 60% software development.
In the hardware world, at lease, most of the users are very very task specific and the entire company would crumble if we let them do whatever they want. To us, their job seems something like magic since most IT people are software people. However, by and large most of them aren't terribly bright about the OS/software side of things.
True story, I've seen a customer write a script to monitor a system resource that was supposed to wake up every 5 minutes. Know what he did?
He wrote a 'while' loop that ran the Unix 'date' command repeatedly until the time matched the right pattern. I shit you not - not 'sleep(5 * 60)'. He actually ran 'date' in a while loop. This is the shit we deal with.
On the other hand, there are parts of IT that do indeed seem to work more towards their own goals than those of their customers.
Again, let me ask:
Dollars you directly pulled in for your company? Oh yeah, negative. You cost them money.
Dollars developers pull in? All of it (at a software company, at least).
This is the perception, right or wrong and it's not going to change. Get used to it.
The fundamental mistake you're making is in not understanding that you do not directly make money for your company, you _cost_ them money. The developers directly make them money.
Is this fair and accurate? Nope, of course not. But it's a simple fact that this is how upper management views things, and you'd be wise to grasp this concept.
A $699 computer my ass. You can get a better equipped machine from e.g. Dell for around $500, $600 tops.
Who is claiming the $699 pricetag? Is that like when some TV ad claims you're getting 8 trillion dollars worth (as determined by seller) of stuff for only $19.99?
You all act like it's a conspiracy, or something new...
E-business runs on IIS. End of story. You go out and look at a lot of little sites, including people's boring blogs, and sure - lots of apache. But you look at heavily used sites, business sites, and a lot of them run IIS.
Remember when he went after Microsoft (for the same reasons, he was in somebody's pocket)? You all just _loved_ him then, aye?
I call it poetic fucking justice, and you can all choke on it.
Ha Ha. I seem to remmeber him being the "working nerd's hero" some time ago when he was going after Microsoft. Same as David Boies used to be, eh?
Well, nerds, your snakes have turned on you. Pretty sweet if you ask me.
Come on, legitimate P2P stuff like Linux distributions? Wink, Wink?
Who do you think you're kidding? P2P is used to illegally share copyrighted music. This is a fact. Quit with the "but what about all the free, independent music" and the "but there are legitimate things like Linux on P2P!".
You're absolutely not kidding anyone.
So let me understand what you're saying, in words I can understand. I'll paraphrase, correct me if I'm wrong:
"I'm a stupid asshole."
Did I get it right?
See, 'new 32-bit chips' are what's selling the most, by far right now. Secondly, nobody needs a 64-bit x86 compatible processor. It's a stupid idea that you filthy nerds are buying into because you're being told to. How many of you even have 2G of memory, much less 4G? Why would you need x86 compatibility when you'll need to recompile everything to see any benefit anyway, and if you're doing that you can get a Madison/PPC/UltraSparc/PA-RISC machine thats 64-bits?
Lastly, rocket surgeon, the newest Itanium processors smoke the shit out of the PPC in their intended usage models - what the hell kind of stupid are you selling, cause I ain't buyin'.
You people are flamingly stupid.
You seem to have this idiotic idea that the 'best' way to get performance is to get better IPC, not more MHz. What a stupid idea. Whatever makes the processor perform better is the 'best' way.
And, stupid ass, given some static architecture XX, XX running at 3.5GHz will always be faster than XX running at 2.3GHz. No matter what your architecture you want it to run faster.
The stupidity of you assholes boggles the mind.
Absolutely. In word definitions, majority rules.
Hacker means hacker, like it or not, nerds.
Uhh, buh? Unless you're from Germany, what possible logical sense does that make?
If you're from Germany, then sure - it's great. But if you're from the US then it makes no difference if the job's in Germany or Timbuktu, it's not in the US.
You seem to assume every piece of software will somehow revolutionize itself every 6 months. Get a grip.