the evidence is that in the time BEFORE building codes, or when codes were ignored, PEOPLE DIED.
-Fire is a big one. It's a big reason for a lot of the electrical installation code. every year there are thousands of fires, many with total destruction of the house, because of substandard electrical work (typically done by some not qualified DIYer).
-Speaking of electrical, there's also electrical shock, another hazard.
-Back to fire, fire abatement and prevention in buildings is why fire doors exist and are called for in the code. as well as fire preventative coating on structural members. Though it should be noted this once led to the use of asbestos, until we learned about its ill effects, and now that's another part of the code, cause again, its about saving lives.
-structural strength, member design, and stardand shapes, factor of safety, etc, all come into play, and all are part of the code. you design a building, a garage say. you're cheap, so its barely 1:1 factor of safety. you sell it. next comes along, he puts more stuff on the walls, or hangs a hoist from the ceiling. it overloads the members, everything falls down, he dies. commercial structures are frequently overdesigned for reasons exactly like this: you cant predict the future tenant and what he will do. code covers all parts of building strength, from wind loading and its effect on the buildings sway (fatigue cracking of central support columns leading to pancake collapse), to mounts that retain the building glass in the frame on a skyscraper (several times where glass panes have fallen out, several hundred feet down onto people on the sidewalk, usually fatally, because of improper installation)
this is but a very short list of examples of why building codes exist. crony capitalism? hardly. (also you apparently have no clue what the definition of crony capitalism is, or what it entails)
you are precisely the kind of 'libertarian' that makes libertarianism look idiotic.
and I forgot....there also the little matter of the blatant ignoring that the entire ACA originated within fellow libertarian group the Heartland Institute, several years ago. so yeah. whatever. same ol same ol, now that the left took it and ran with it, you buffoons disavow any knowledge of it.
-I said the "American left" has abandoned "free markets, freedom of association, and individual liberties". -In fact, I think the American so-called "left" has actually moved more in the direction of fascism. -(using the word 'statist') -Republicans have simply stuck with their theocratic leanings -(linking to CATO)
And of course theres just blatantly ignoring that clearly illustrated success of the ACA (single payer would be better, but the uninsured rate is going down, costs are rising slower, etc) what exactly is this well deserved vitriol that exists in your fantasy version of reality? I suppose Carson calling it 'worse than slavery' had nothing to do with racism and partsinship?
you're an idiot, like most 'libertarians' (little 'l', in quotes, as opposed to Libertarians, which are slightly more intelligent)
except for the workers having to come to work without pay. the key part is the last part: without pay.
"they get back pay"
creditors dont care. guy I work with lost his house last time cause mortgage company started foreclosure on him cause of payments he couldnt make due to not getting paid on time.
this was their idea of negotiation: give us everything we want, and fuck you. not playing by those rules is not refusing to negotiate. and linking to the Washington Times only lowers your apparent IQ.
I am Catholic myself, or was. I stopped practicing soon after enlisting.
But Pope Francis reminds me of the idealistic faith I was taught when I was young, not the American conservative flavored faith (re: hypocritical) I later saw in the adults around me calling themselves Catholic/Christian.
I still don't think I'd accept all the Church's stances and teachings (such as regarding homosexuals or contraception); I've gone too far for that I think. But i've considered going to mass recently at the local Catholic Church, testing the waters so to speak, maybe even speak to the Pastor.
Agreed and good points. One reason I phrased it as an open question, rather than flat statement. The truth is probably somewhere in the "a little of bit of all of the above".
Boehner is a devout Catholic. Boehner invited the Pope to speak before Congress. During the Pope's address to the Congress, an address that specifically rebuked many Republican stances* Boehner has supported, Boehner was visibly crying. The day after the Pope's address, Boehner announces his resignation.
We should wait and see what he actually does next following his resignation, but a part of me can't help but hope that he saw the light finally, that he saw the discrepancies between the faith he claimed, and the party he was part of for so long. One can hope.
assume minimum 90 pill treatment. at 750/pill, that's almost 70k$.
Typical insurance plan: 2k deductible, 25% copay, 6k out of pocket limit. So for a 70k round of treatment, you max out and are paying 6k between your copay and deductible. and that's with a -decent- plan. cheaper plans are even worse.
at the previous cost of the drug, 13.50, a round of treatment is only 1,215 in total. Below the deductible, so you pay the full amount without insurance picking any up, but still a far sight better than the 6k alternative caused by the greedy markup.
Or we could be like civilized countries, and simply decide that people shouldn't go broke seeing the doctor.
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i really like the part where he ignores that we've had people in such cramped conditions before. aboard ship in the military personal space the size of an SUV would be considered a luxury.
Just to follow up, yet more numbers to further dispel this "war on police" myth: www.npr.org/2015/09/17/441196546/is-there-a-war-on-police-the-statistics-say-no
In short: 2014 only looked bad because the previous year was the all time safest year for police. Ever. (much like global warming deniers who try to claim arctic rebounded because 2013 had more ice than 2012....the lowest year ever recorded)
Quote:
The notion of growing "warfare" against police stems in part from a statistical jump in the number of law officers murdered — "feloniously killed," in the jargon of the FBI's numbers.
In 2014, the year of the Ferguson protests and increased media attention on police misconduct, 51 officers were killed nationwide. That was a jump from the 27 killed in 2013 and many took it as a sign of greater danger for police.
But even 2014 was statistically part of an ever decreasing trend and not really a departure from normal:
While the number of police officers killed on duty nearly doubled from 2013 to 2014, the increase is deceptive, says Seth Stoughton: 2013 had unusually few deaths. 2014 was comparable to other recent years and to the 10-year average.
the labor participation rate is declining because the baby boomers are aging out of the work force, and has absolutely jackshit to do with entitlement programs. since your base premise is wrong, the rest of your comment that built upon it is invalid.
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the evidence is that in the time BEFORE building codes, or when codes were ignored, PEOPLE DIED.
-Fire is a big one. It's a big reason for a lot of the electrical installation code. every year there are thousands of fires, many with total destruction of the house, because of substandard electrical work (typically done by some not qualified DIYer).
-Speaking of electrical, there's also electrical shock, another hazard.
-Back to fire, fire abatement and prevention in buildings is why fire doors exist and are called for in the code. as well as fire preventative coating on structural members. Though it should be noted this once led to the use of asbestos, until we learned about its ill effects, and now that's another part of the code, cause again, its about saving lives.
-structural strength, member design, and stardand shapes, factor of safety, etc, all come into play, and all are part of the code. you design a building, a garage say. you're cheap, so its barely 1:1 factor of safety. you sell it. next comes along, he puts more stuff on the walls, or hangs a hoist from the ceiling. it overloads the members, everything falls down, he dies. commercial structures are frequently overdesigned for reasons exactly like this: you cant predict the future tenant and what he will do. code covers all parts of building strength, from wind loading and its effect on the buildings sway (fatigue cracking of central support columns leading to pancake collapse), to mounts that retain the building glass in the frame on a skyscraper (several times where glass panes have fallen out, several hundred feet down onto people on the sidewalk, usually fatally, because of improper installation)
this is but a very short list of examples of why building codes exist.
crony capitalism? hardly. (also you apparently have no clue what the definition of crony capitalism is, or what it entails)
you are precisely the kind of 'libertarian' that makes libertarianism look idiotic.
your fallacy is that you're an idiot.
and I forgot....there also the little matter of the blatant ignoring that the entire ACA originated within fellow libertarian group the Heartland Institute, several years ago. so yeah. whatever. same ol same ol, now that the left took it and ran with it, you buffoons disavow any knowledge of it.
Statements that prove you are clueless:
-I said the "American left" has abandoned "free markets, freedom of association, and individual liberties".
-In fact, I think the American so-called "left" has actually moved more in the direction of fascism.
-(using the word 'statist')
-Republicans have simply stuck with their theocratic leanings
-(linking to CATO)
And of course theres just blatantly ignoring that clearly illustrated success of the ACA (single payer would be better, but the uninsured rate is going down, costs are rising slower, etc) what exactly is this well deserved vitriol that exists in your fantasy version of reality? I suppose Carson calling it 'worse than slavery' had nothing to do with racism and partsinship?
you're an idiot, like most 'libertarians'
(little 'l', in quotes, as opposed to Libertarians, which are slightly more intelligent)
Yes, it was a special place, the only place where violence and conflict was common place in the historical world..
who mods this stupidity up?
bwahahahahaha
except for the workers having to come to work without pay.
the key part is the last part: without pay.
"they get back pay"
creditors dont care. guy I work with lost his house last time cause mortgage company started foreclosure on him cause of payments he couldnt make due to not getting paid on time.
this was their idea of negotiation: give us everything we want, and fuck you.
not playing by those rules is not refusing to negotiate.
and linking to the Washington Times only lowers your apparent IQ.
you say that like it has a relevant meaning.
Rome wasn't built in a day.
I am Catholic myself, or was.
I stopped practicing soon after enlisting.
But Pope Francis reminds me of the idealistic faith I was taught when I was young, not the American conservative flavored faith (re: hypocritical) I later saw in the adults around me calling themselves Catholic/Christian.
I still don't think I'd accept all the Church's stances and teachings (such as regarding homosexuals or contraception); I've gone too far for that I think.
But i've considered going to mass recently at the local Catholic Church, testing the waters so to speak, maybe even speak to the Pastor.
Agreed and good points. One reason I phrased it as an open question, rather than flat statement. The truth is probably somewhere in the "a little of bit of all of the above".
he was the driving force behind at least a few of them; they're his.
Boehner is a devout Catholic.
Boehner invited the Pope to speak before Congress.
During the Pope's address to the Congress, an address that specifically rebuked many Republican stances* Boehner has supported, Boehner was visibly crying.
The day after the Pope's address, Boehner announces his resignation.
We should wait and see what he actually does next following his resignation, but a part of me can't help but hope that he saw the light finally, that he saw the discrepancies between the faith he claimed, and the party he was part of for so long. One can hope.
(*yes I know he chastised both sides)
words have meanings.
you should try learning them.
assume minimum 90 pill treatment.
at 750/pill, that's almost 70k$.
Typical insurance plan: 2k deductible, 25% copay, 6k out of pocket limit.
So for a 70k round of treatment, you max out and are paying 6k between your copay and deductible. and that's with a -decent- plan.
cheaper plans are even worse.
at the previous cost of the drug, 13.50, a round of treatment is only 1,215 in total. Below the deductible, so you pay the full amount without insurance picking any up, but still a far sight better than the 6k alternative caused by the greedy markup.
Or we could be like civilized countries, and simply decide that people shouldn't go broke seeing the doctor.
i really like the part where he ignores that we've had people in such cramped conditions before.
aboard ship in the military personal space the size of an SUV would be considered a luxury.
trolling works better when you show an ounce of intelligence, but apparently you cannot even muster that.
apparently you've never heard of civil forfeiture
As far as I know, nowhere in the US has yearly emissions testing like the UK.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=states+wi...
Just to follow up, yet more numbers to further dispel this "war on police" myth:
www.npr.org/2015/09/17/441196546/is-there-a-war-on-police-the-statistics-say-no
In short: 2014 only looked bad because the previous year was the all time safest year for police. Ever.
(much like global warming deniers who try to claim arctic rebounded because 2013 had more ice than 2012....the lowest year ever recorded)
Quote:
The notion of growing "warfare" against police stems in part from a statistical jump in the number of law officers murdered — "feloniously killed," in the jargon of the FBI's numbers.
In 2014, the year of the Ferguson protests and increased media attention on police misconduct, 51 officers were killed nationwide. That was a jump from the 27 killed in 2013 and many took it as a sign of greater danger for police.
But even 2014 was statistically part of an ever decreasing trend and not really a departure from normal:
While the number of police officers killed on duty nearly doubled from 2013 to 2014, the increase is deceptive, says Seth Stoughton: 2013 had unusually few deaths. 2014 was comparable to other recent years and to the 10-year average.
the labor participation rate is declining because the baby boomers are aging out of the work force, and has absolutely jackshit to do with entitlement programs.
since your base premise is wrong, the rest of your comment that built upon it is invalid.
translation: die in the street poors!
they moved to the cities and factories
stop spreading that myth.
hundreds of programs are created and killed every year.