It also depends if there's power or not. If there's no power present, you can soak most components underwater for as long as you like without damage.
If there's voltage present, the copper tracks will start to dissolve into the water, which is fairly bad by itself. As the water dries out the dissolved copper bridges adjacent tracks, so even a few seconds of water damage can totally ruin a board.
Bollox. spamassassin doesn't filter for keywords, it looks for common spammy phrases, so if that triggered it they're probably trying to sell me something anyhow (herbal viagra, click here, do it now, limited time offer!) and I'm not interested.
The rest of what it picks up is things like ALL CAPS, g.a.p.p.y t.e.x.t and !!!!$$$!!!!, and I'm perfectly happy to tell them to fuck off for that.
Same for html. If you send good clean html spamassassin will let it past. pine won't render it anyhow but at least I can read the text version. If you send me some bollox MSHTML or a.doc attachment, you're just asking for a lecture in open standards anyhow..
Most of those sites are loaded with adverts; they'd be overjoyed if you loaded the page a couple of hundred times. It sure looks good on the hit stats when they're tryin to sign up new advertisers..
You would be surprised how many people out there don't understand the concept of just hitting "Reply" to a message. Some call, some forward, some write a dissertation.. It's kind of funny.
I'm not really surprised. These are the same people who write excessively spam-like messages in the first place. Teaching them to write better (less spam-like) emails, and ignoring them until they can follow simple instructions and use email properly would seem to be the ideal solution to me.:)
Brilliant idea, I'll probably add something to procmail myself later today.
I thought of a few minor changes though. Don't bother with the whole storage/verification crap, if it was important they can resend it. And don't send back the message; that's likely to just trip spam filters at their end, or be abused by spammers to reach 'secondary targets' (how you mentioned above). Just send back a standard boilerplate message something like this;
-- Your recent email to me re: $subject was identified as spam and has been deleted unread. If this message was important please make it less spam-like and then resend it.
Things you might need to change;
Avoid html-formatted messages
Avoid strings of dollar signs or exclamation marks
Don't use capital letters excessively, or put spaces/dots/dashes between each letter in words.
Avoid common spam phrases. --
It was bugging me, so I did a google search. Now i feel slightly stupid.
The quotation that had me irate was in fact from George Mallory, a British explorer, who wanted to climb Everest "because it was there" many years before Hillary. Mallory never got there, but he was first to use the phrase later repeated by Hillary.
I said they were stolen; I didn't say they were stolen from foreigners.
Anti-american rants are fashionable. Several small countries are viciously attacking you. The rest of the world hates you. I wonder if there's something about America's foreign policy, behaviour, or overall image that causes this?
Yeah.. I know.. this is totally offtopic and inflamatory and shit. I recently saw someone's sig (on slashdot) that strongly implied an American was the first to climb Everest. Well fuck you all too!!
Don't like it? mod me down, I have karma to burn at the moment:)
Perhaps because it's true. Sorry to disturb your cosy worldview, but the sad fact is not -everything- was invented or discovered in America.
And I'm fast starting to believe that the only thing Americans are any good at these days is stealing other people's ideas and claiming them as their own. Bill Gates is of course the first name that comes to mind; esr's rant ends up with a list of every major 'innovation' from MS, and who it was bought or stolen from. Then there's all the business-method patent companies; Amazon, PanIP, etc.
And then there's the entire issue of the wright brothers, philo farnsworth, etc. Sure the wright brothers were scientific about things, but baboo dick managed some fairly well controlled flights as well as his first less than impressive decent and crash into a ditch. Sure the CRT was a great step forward, but bard invented the basic syncronised scanning of an image. The camera part of this has already gone to CCD. The basic scanning concept that bard invented is still used; the beam of electrons that farnsworth invented isn't. So who invented the video camera again? When most TV's go LCD, are we going to forget farnsworth and credit the inventor of the LCD with inventing "television" ?
HELP the RIAA!!! They'll love you for it..
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Here's an idea I just had for anyone who still cares about good music. Go download some top-100 crap, open it up in whatever sound-editing software you like best, and voice-over it.
Rant about music you like, mention a few unsigned bands that record a similar genre the the RIAA track you're spoiling. Talk about fair use, payola, price fixing, whatever. Mention a few good URL's about the issues such as the one in this story.
Repeat for as much of the top-100 as you can stand, then share it around. If the RIAA wants P2P networks polluted, let's do it RIGHT!
As opposed to "Someone's walked off with a harddrive containing that report, or all our company secrets, and the billing details of 180,000 of our customers."
If it was that important I'd keep a backup in a vault somewhere and wouldn't have the -only- copy on just my keyring.
Something I've wanted to do for a while is get one of those keychain USB drives, and keep my private key on it, and perhaps also a symmetric key. Then I can run a crypto filesystem (not for everything, just for the stuff I want to keep private) and unplug the key when I'm away from the computer.
Hey wait, this sounds like something I read earlier today.. !
There probably isn't more than 128M of stuff I really need to keep private, so it might make just as much sense to keep all the files on the USB drive too.
Someone decides to print the letter; at that point it's a one-off and it doesn't matter too much who actually wrote it.
Someone else recieves the same letter, looks up a few key phrases and finds an exact copy archived. If it's the same author they'll probably print it anyway; plenty of people send their letter to several different papers at the same time and afaik the papers are OK with that.
If it's an identical letter but not the same author, at least one of those 'authors' didn't write it. It's been printed once and it gets round-filed from then on.
You could write something that answers on an arbritrary low port "root here; we're aware of user process using IRC here and we're OK with that". identd already exists and does the job fairly well. Why invent something new?
It's only slightly a bonus that the ident service also allows you to ban individual users from sites that provide shell accounts, without having to ban the entire box and/or the entire site.
14. exclusion of incidental, consequential and certain other damages. to the maximum extent permitted by applicable law, in no event shall microsoft or its suppliers be liable for any special, incidental, indirect, or consequential damages whatsoever (including, but not limited to, damages for loss of profits or confidential or other information, for business interruption, for personal injury, for loss of privacy, for failure to meet any duty including of good faith or of reasonable care, for negligence, and for any other pecuniary or other loss whatsoever) arising out of or in any way related to the use of or inability to use the product, the provision of or failure to provide support services, or otherwise under or in connection with any provision of this eula, even in the event of the fault, tort (including negligence), strict liability, breach of contract or breach of warranty of microsoft or any supplier, and even if microsoft or any supplier has been advised of the possibility of such damages.
(tr [a-z] [A-Z] to read this in MS's original 'too-lame for slashdot' form..)
So, I gotta stop my project for some unknown length of time. Good thing I'm not updating a medical drug interaction database, or an available transplant database, or a process flow control system or a hazardous atmosphere measurement system or a BUNCH of other possibilities.
If it was anything important, you should be using the corporate edition (which doesn't have activation) and not the home edition.
If it's life-or-death important you should have a backup server which can be swapped in, or perhaps an entire server-farm if you insist on using windows.
ident is -almost- useless; it proves that at least someone has a reasonable degree of control over the box.
Two cases where requiring ident is actually helpful; there's thousands of open proxies which can be used to connect to IRC servers, but most of them aren't running ident. Also it's not too hard to get a non-priviledged shell on an awful lot of webservers, most of which aren't running ident. It's a lot harder to get root and enable ident in both these cases, so by requiring ident you cut down the size of Joe Random Skriptkiddie's botnet rather sharply.
ghostscript (gs) will convert it to pretty much any format you like, except raw text.. from the console you should be able to view it (as ppm/pnm/jpeg), print it (as ps) or fax it (faxg3)
If you have X11 (and honestly who doesn't, even if they still mostly use the console?!) you can view is using ghostview (gv), xpdf, or even Acrobat Reader. There are probably others too.
Oh yeah.. google's cache keeps an html version of any pdf's it finds too.
Keys are 'digital'. Although you might think of them as analog, there's only seven or so levels each notch can be cut to. Any working key represents a series of digits, and a new key can be cut from those digits without having an 'original' key at hand.
I'm not sure if DMCA specifies that a security system needs to be binary or in an electronic form, but seeing that DMCA's been applied to scientology, price lists and printer cartridges already, I can't see why it can't be applied to locks.
"Has become?!!" - check your jargon file.. lockpicking was a popular sport amongst hackers from WAY BACK.
Also, I'm not sure how new this is; When I was at high school (about 20 years ago) a friend of mine managed to get hold of four or five different keys and from those he filed a 'master key' which opened about a third of the doors in our school, and he let a couple of us (me included) make a copy of it. Later the school found out, he got expelled and they changed all the locks.
That's nice, but have you actually caught Osama yet? Dead -or- alive? How long's it been?
Perhaps you'd have better luck if more of the Americans in Afghanistan were actually looking for Osama and not building an oil pipeline.. or was that the real objective here all along?
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It also depends if there's power or not. If there's no power present, you can soak most components underwater for as long as you like without damage.
If there's voltage present, the copper tracks will start to dissolve into the water, which is fairly bad by itself. As the water dries out the dissolved copper bridges adjacent tracks, so even a few seconds of water damage can totally ruin a board.
Bollox. spamassassin doesn't filter for keywords, it looks for common spammy phrases, so if that triggered it they're probably trying to sell me something anyhow (herbal viagra, click here, do it now, limited time offer!) and I'm not interested.
.doc attachment, you're just asking for a lecture in open standards anyhow..
The rest of what it picks up is things like ALL CAPS, g.a.p.p.y t.e.x.t and !!!!$$$!!!!, and I'm perfectly happy to tell them to fuck off for that.
Same for html. If you send good clean html spamassassin will let it past. pine won't render it anyhow but at least I can read the text version. If you send me some bollox MSHTML or a
Most of those sites are loaded with adverts; they'd be overjoyed if you loaded the page a couple of hundred times. It sure looks good on the hit stats when they're tryin to sign up new advertisers..
You would be surprised how many people out there don't understand the concept of just hitting "Reply" to a message. Some call, some forward, some write a dissertation.. It's kind of funny.
:)
I'm not really surprised. These are the same people who write excessively spam-like messages in the first place. Teaching them to write better (less spam-like) emails, and ignoring them until they can follow simple instructions and use email properly would seem to be the ideal solution to me.
I'd compare the recipe to a Makefile myself; and the oven is the compiler.
BTW; has anyone thought to GPL a few beer recipes yet? That'd totally mess up rms's "free beer" analogy!
Brilliant idea, I'll probably add something to procmail myself later today.
I thought of a few minor changes though. Don't bother with the whole storage/verification crap, if it was important they can resend it. And don't send back the message; that's likely to just trip spam filters at their end, or be abused by spammers to reach 'secondary targets' (how you mentioned above). Just send back a standard boilerplate message something like this;
--
Your recent email to me re: $subject was identified as spam and has been deleted unread. If this message was important please make it less spam-like and then resend it.
Things you might need to change;
Avoid html-formatted messages
Avoid strings of dollar signs or exclamation marks
Don't use capital letters excessively, or put spaces/dots/dashes between each letter in words.
Avoid common spam phrases.
--
P133, 64M ram, freebsd4.5 and NS4. What exactly was the problem with it?
but what use is a telephone, Mr Coward, if you are unable to speak?
Probably the same country that first notices I misspelled bamboo and Baird. Twice even!
:)
The link was working at the time I bookmarked it.
I've just checked, ~esr and / at tuxedo.org are also 404. Perhaps he's been infected by the slammer worm
It was bugging me, so I did a google search. Now i feel slightly stupid.
The quotation that had me irate was in fact from George Mallory, a British explorer, who wanted to climb Everest "because it was there" many years before Hillary. Mallory never got there, but he was first to use the phrase later repeated by Hillary.
At least I can admit when I'm wrong.
I said they were stolen; I didn't say they were stolen from foreigners.
:)
Anti-american rants are fashionable. Several small countries are viciously attacking you. The rest of the world hates you. I wonder if there's something about America's foreign policy, behaviour, or overall image that causes this?
Yeah.. I know.. this is totally offtopic and inflamatory and shit. I recently saw someone's sig (on slashdot) that strongly implied an American was the first to climb Everest. Well fuck you all too!!
Don't like it? mod me down, I have karma to burn at the moment
Perhaps because it's true. Sorry to disturb your cosy worldview, but the sad fact is not -everything- was invented or discovered in America.
And I'm fast starting to believe that the only thing Americans are any good at these days is stealing other people's ideas and claiming them as their own. Bill Gates is of course the first name that comes to mind; esr's rant ends up with a list of every major 'innovation' from MS, and who it was bought or stolen from. Then there's all the business-method patent companies; Amazon, PanIP, etc.
And then there's the entire issue of the wright brothers, philo farnsworth, etc. Sure the wright brothers were scientific about things, but baboo dick managed some fairly well controlled flights as well as his first less than impressive decent and crash into a ditch.
Sure the CRT was a great step forward, but bard invented the basic syncronised scanning of an image.
The camera part of this has already gone to CCD. The basic scanning concept that bard invented is still used; the beam of electrons that farnsworth invented isn't. So who invented the video camera again?
When most TV's go LCD, are we going to forget farnsworth and credit the inventor of the LCD with inventing "television" ?
Here's an idea I just had for anyone who still cares about good music. Go download some top-100 crap, open it up in whatever sound-editing software you like best, and voice-over it.
Rant about music you like, mention a few unsigned bands that record a similar genre the the RIAA track you're spoiling. Talk about fair use, payola, price fixing, whatever. Mention a few good URL's about the issues such as the one in this story.
Repeat for as much of the top-100 as you can stand, then share it around. If the RIAA wants P2P networks polluted, let's do it RIGHT!
Last time I checked it was $12 around here..
As opposed to "Someone's walked off with a harddrive containing that report, or all our company secrets, and the billing details of 180,000 of our customers."
If it was that important I'd keep a backup in a vault somewhere and wouldn't have the -only- copy on just my keyring.
Something I've wanted to do for a while is get one of those keychain USB drives, and keep my private key on it, and perhaps also a symmetric key. Then I can run a crypto filesystem (not for everything, just for the stuff I want to keep private) and unplug the key when I'm away from the computer.
.. !
Hey wait, this sounds like something I read earlier today
There probably isn't more than 128M of stuff I really need to keep private, so it might make just as much sense to keep all the files on the USB drive too.
Someone decides to print the letter; at that point it's a one-off and it doesn't matter too much who actually wrote it.
Someone else recieves the same letter, looks up a few key phrases and finds an exact copy archived. If it's the same author they'll probably print it anyway; plenty of people send their letter to several different papers at the same time and afaik the papers are OK with that.
If it's an identical letter but not the same author, at least one of those 'authors' didn't write it. It's been printed once and it gets round-filed from then on.
There doesn't have to be any kind of trend.
More or less.
You could write something that answers on an arbritrary low port "root here; we're aware of user process using IRC here and we're OK with that". identd already exists and does the job fairly well. Why invent something new?
It's only slightly a bonus that the ident service also allows you to ban individual users from sites that provide shell accounts, without having to ban the entire box and/or the entire site.
14. exclusion of incidental, consequential
and certain other damages. to the maximum
extent permitted by applicable law, in no
event shall microsoft or its suppliers be
liable for any special, incidental, indirect,
or consequential damages whatsoever
(including, but not limited to, damages for
loss of profits or confidential or other
information, for business interruption, for
personal injury, for loss of privacy, for
failure to meet any duty including of good
faith or of reasonable care, for negligence,
and for any other pecuniary or other loss
whatsoever) arising out of or in any way
related to the use of or inability to use the
product, the provision of or failure to
provide support services, or otherwise under
or in connection with any provision of this
eula, even in the event of the fault, tort
(including negligence), strict liability,
breach of contract or breach of warranty of
microsoft or any supplier, and even if
microsoft or any supplier has been advised of
the possibility of such damages.
(tr [a-z] [A-Z] to read this in MS's original 'too-lame for slashdot' form..)
So, I gotta stop my project for some unknown length of time. Good thing I'm not updating a medical drug interaction database, or an available transplant database, or a process flow control system or a hazardous atmosphere measurement system or a BUNCH of other possibilities.
If it was anything important, you should be using the corporate edition (which doesn't have activation) and not the home edition.
If it's life-or-death important you should have a backup server which can be swapped in, or perhaps an entire server-farm if you insist on using windows.
ident is -almost- useless; it proves that at least someone has a reasonable degree of control over the box.
Two cases where requiring ident is actually helpful; there's thousands of open proxies which can be used to connect to IRC servers, but most of them aren't running ident. Also it's not too hard to get a non-priviledged shell on an awful lot of webservers, most of which aren't running ident. It's a lot harder to get root and enable ident in both these cases, so by requiring ident you cut down the size of Joe Random Skriptkiddie's botnet rather sharply.
ghostscript (gs) will convert it to pretty much any format you like, except raw text.. from the console you should be able to view it (as ppm/pnm/jpeg), print it (as ps) or fax it (faxg3)
If you have X11 (and honestly who doesn't, even if they still mostly use the console?!) you can view is using ghostview (gv), xpdf, or even Acrobat Reader. There are probably others too.
Oh yeah.. google's cache keeps an html version of any pdf's it finds too.
Keys are 'digital'. Although you might think of them as analog, there's only seven or so levels each notch can be cut to. Any working key represents a series of digits, and a new key can be cut from those digits without having an 'original' key at hand.
I'm not sure if DMCA specifies that a security system needs to be binary or in an electronic form, but seeing that DMCA's been applied to scientology, price lists and printer cartridges already, I can't see why it can't be applied to locks.
"Has become?!!" - check your jargon file.. lockpicking was a popular sport amongst hackers from WAY BACK.
Also, I'm not sure how new this is; When I was at high school (about 20 years ago) a friend of mine managed to get hold of four or five different keys and from those he filed a 'master key' which opened about a third of the doors in our school, and he let a couple of us (me included) make a copy of it. Later the school found out, he got expelled and they changed all the locks.
That's nice, but have you actually caught Osama yet? Dead -or- alive? How long's it been?
Perhaps you'd have better luck if more of the Americans in Afghanistan were actually looking for Osama and not building an oil pipeline.. or was that the real objective here all along?