We know what would happen: Far more people would suffer from complications of diseases, such as male sterility from rubella, some would even die. No cases of autism would be prevented however, because there is no known link between vaccines and autism. This is what happened in the UK when MMR vaccination rates dropped dramatically after an idiot made up evidence and the study was published in the Lancet.
some families seem to point out patterns - pre vaccines, happy, post vaccines dolphin-esque.
This probably originates from a single study in the UK more than ten years ago that linked the MMR vaccine with increased incidences of autism. That study has been since been thoroughly debunked and discredited. Stop repeating it.
There is no contradiction. The report says that while Israel/generally/ has a point about Hezbollah storing weapons and even launching attacks from civilian areas (for which the report condemns Hezbollah), it says that in the/specific/ cases of IDF attacks on civilians which it investigated there was *no evidence* of Hezbollah activity prior to the attack. Where's the contradiction exactly?
Basically, the report accuses the IDF of indiscriminate attacks on civilian areas. Note that Hezbollah rockets into Israel are also indiscriminate attacks on civilians, and the HRW report notes this and condemns Hezbollah for it. That some number of combatants are among the civilian population being targetted is not a defence, according to HRW.
Your comment on the AI side: I don't quite understand how the presence of fighters on the one side is only equivalent to the/engaged/ fighters on the other.
There are huge PR machine (on both sides) at work to twist things: to deny not-unreasonable equivalences ("our targetting of their civilian areas is nothing like theirs") and also to make unproductive ones ("we might have killed a bunch of civilians just there, but look how often they kill ours!").
The world might be a better place if, instead of falling for the PR of one side or the other, the outside world stuck to even-handed condemnation of all the violence there.
I think you might be confusing the Lebanon and Hezbollah with the Gaza strip and Hamas. The schoolyard/human-shield accusation was against Hamas in the Gaza strip, iirc.
When evaluating the human-shield accusations there, it's perhaps worth considering that the Gaza strip is one of the most densely populated bits of land in the world. The strip is also very small, narrow and fairly flat - any extra-urban areas are watched by the IDF and exposed to IDF fire.
Not making any judgements here, just trying to make a point about jumping to conclusions when it comes to news from the middle-east that involves Israel and Palestine in any way.
Ob your Hezbollah comment: The human-shield argument is a fairly standard IDF argument trotted out when some apparently blatant killing of civilians by IDF force is raised with them.
Which way the truth lies is often hard to determine over there, and always disputed of course. However it seems certain that the parties involved there aren't ever quite as evil as their opponents make them out to be, and that they each are nowhere near as righteous as they claim to be. Basically, by making that human-shield statement (and the "crack-pot holy war" statement) you make the impression on me that you must either have a very strong bias towards one that party there, or that you are a bit naive (or perhaps young).
Whichever it is, it doesn't speak to your ability to critically and/or objectively evaluate information that reaches you, and others should take that into account when listening to your views perhaps.
No offence btw. Your example is so jarring I had to comment though.
The Chinese teenagers I've met seem to look to Japan and South Korea for music, fashion and culture generally. As for breakfast, seems to be variations on pancakes, tofu and sweet-breads.
Well, there was a lot said about the benefits of spatial around the time it was introduced. I sort of assumed that readers here would either remember the discussions or else would be capable of using google. E.g. this has an overview and links, including to this.
Basically file windows remember their form: where they were opened, what size and other properties. I found that I would become familiar with what windows should be where as I opened them, and I found this really helped finding them back. It was just a very nice organisational touch, assisting my brain in associating windows on the screen with what I should expect to find in them.
As for many windows:
- just hold shift as you click a folder
OR
- use the "close parent folders" option in the file menu
As for navigation: Did you miss the button in the bottom left that drops down to show the hierarchy of folders, and lets you open any them by selecting them?
I've noticed Nautilus in Ubuntu seems to be screwed up wrt spatial though, least it's quite different to Fedora. Did they apply weird patches?
I didn't like the switch to spatial at first, but after using it it became clear that the reasoning for it was sound - it's much better to use than browser mode. Annoyed it's going away, hope they retain the option to have nautilus use spatial mode.
The handbook may be out of date, but that section on X is just as true today as it was then. This part in particular hits the nail on the head:
(The idea of a window manager was added as an afterthought, and it shows.)
Yes indeed. Just look how stupid were the X designers to not have made TWM a core part of the protocol! </sarcasm>
It's amazing that people can quote from an old "haters handbook" straight-faced and claim X11 was designed badly, when all the points in that handbook are no longer relevant to modern GUIs, despite those GUIs still using X11! (While still supporting ancient apps using those obsolete technologies).
To me that says the X11 designers were amazingly prescient, and the commentators quoting from that handbook are quite clueless..
You also have the advantage of less than 15 million people voting, whereas in the last election in the US about 136.6 million voted.
Uhm, vote counting is an embarrassingly scaleable problem. I.e. the number of voters is mostly irrelevant (on the safeish presumption that you can extract the same proportion of counters from each population at equivalent per-counter costs). It's an O(logn) problem.
US media is free, and you are free to chose who you listen to
That's missing the point though. The OP might be wise and get their news from a variety of sources so as to form their own, considered opinion. However when more than half of your neighbours are getting their news from crazies on Fox news, you'd be right to get worried.
Oh, the good few years is for those who leave. It's unclear exactly how many leave though and over what spans of time, but presumably the 92%/at-least-5-years figure for PhDs is still not too far off the mark (and those 5 years are/after/ the 3-5 years of research done in the USA as part of the PhD).
You know that PhD and (to a lesser extent) masters students are basically the dogs-bodies of academia, right? I.e. they're usually the ones doing the heavy-lifting investigative work to support the research interests of their supervisor. If you seriously constrain the pool of available PhD students, then you're making it harder for your professors and Universities to get their research done.
The sheer ignorance on display in some parts of this discussion are amazing. Doubly amazing when you consider/.'s readership is biased towards being significantly more educated than the average American. If this represents mainstream thinking in the USA, then one must worry the USA is doomed to a dark period of shoot-in-the-foot policies driven by xenophobism.
(I say this as someone who believes the health of the USA's economy is vitally important to that of the globe's, and has a mostly-positive opinion of it. NB: the country I live in also is experiencing some measure of xenophobist-pandering policy setting).
Ur, can you not read the article? Very few immediately return. The US gets a good few years of work out of them. Thanks to the conditions of the H1B programme, they're pretty much indentured servants - and it's/that/ aspect perhaps which puts US workers at a slight disadvantage.
Anyway, the rest of the world, Europe particularly, will be quite happy to see the US turn away the brightest of developing countries. Bedankt!
Water dispenser machines that automatically boil the water for you are very common in Chinese homes and elsewhere. Bottled water is also readily to hand across China.
Does it suck compared to having potable water flow out the tap, sure, and no doubt the chinese will in time invest an fix it. The situation however is much *better* than my memories of holidaying in various parts of the European mediterranean as recently as the 80s.
Why is the parent marked a troll? While their position is perhaps slightly too extreme to be entirely reasonable, it is always important to consider the effect of business influences on public policy. For, make no mistake, such interests *do* have influence even if the interest is exercised benignly by good people.
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We know what would happen: Far more people would suffer from complications of diseases, such as male sterility from rubella, some would even die. No cases of autism would be prevented however, because there is no known link between vaccines and autism. This is what happened in the UK when MMR vaccination rates dropped dramatically after an idiot made up evidence and the study was published in the Lancet.
See the link in my reply to your parent.
some families seem to point out patterns - pre vaccines, happy, post vaccines dolphin-esque.
This probably originates from a single study in the UK more than ten years ago that linked the MMR vaccine with increased incidences of autism. That study has been since been thoroughly debunked and discredited. Stop repeating it.
Interesting stuff.
There is no contradiction. The report says that while Israel /generally/ has a point about Hezbollah storing weapons and even launching attacks from civilian areas (for which the report condemns Hezbollah), it says that in the /specific/ cases of IDF attacks on civilians which it investigated there was *no evidence* of Hezbollah activity prior to the attack. Where's the contradiction exactly?
Basically, the report accuses the IDF of indiscriminate attacks on civilian areas. Note that Hezbollah rockets into Israel are also indiscriminate attacks on civilians, and the HRW report notes this and condemns Hezbollah for it. That some number of combatants are among the civilian population being targetted is not a defence, according to HRW.
Your comment on the AI side: I don't quite understand how the presence of fighters on the one side is only equivalent to the /engaged/ fighters on the other.
There are huge PR machine (on both sides) at work to twist things: to deny not-unreasonable equivalences ("our targetting of their civilian areas is nothing like theirs") and also to make unproductive ones ("we might have killed a bunch of civilians just there, but look how often they kill ours!").
The world might be a better place if, instead of falling for the PR of one side or the other, the outside world stuck to even-handed condemnation of all the violence there.
I think you might be confusing the Lebanon and Hezbollah with the Gaza strip and Hamas. The schoolyard/human-shield accusation was against Hamas in the Gaza strip, iirc.
When evaluating the human-shield accusations there, it's perhaps worth considering that the Gaza strip is one of the most densely populated bits of land in the world. The strip is also very small, narrow and fairly flat - any extra-urban areas are watched by the IDF and exposed to IDF fire.
Not making any judgements here, just trying to make a point about jumping to conclusions when it comes to news from the middle-east that involves Israel and Palestine in any way.
--paulj
Ob your Hezbollah comment: The human-shield argument is a fairly standard IDF argument trotted out when some apparently blatant killing of civilians by IDF force is raised with them.
Which way the truth lies is often hard to determine over there, and always disputed of course. However it seems certain that the parties involved there aren't ever quite as evil as their opponents make them out to be, and that they each are nowhere near as righteous as they claim to be. Basically, by making that human-shield statement (and the "crack-pot holy war" statement) you make the impression on me that you must either have a very strong bias towards one that party there, or that you are a bit naive (or perhaps young).
Whichever it is, it doesn't speak to your ability to critically and/or objectively evaluate information that reaches you, and others should take that into account when listening to your views perhaps.
No offence btw. Your example is so jarring I had to comment though.
Re Jesus: there's next to no evidence for his existence btw. The scant amount that exists is far from satisfactory..
The Chinese teenagers I've met seem to look to Japan and South Korea for music, fashion and culture generally. As for breakfast, seems to be variations on pancakes, tofu and sweet-breads.
HTH.
Isn't that a british invention? (apologies if your comment was subtle humour based on that fact ;) )
Well, there was a lot said about the benefits of spatial around the time it was introduced. I sort of assumed that readers here would either remember the discussions or else would be capable of using google. E.g. this has an overview and links, including to this.
Basically file windows remember their form: where they were opened, what size and other properties. I found that I would become familiar with what windows should be where as I opened them, and I found this really helped finding them back. It was just a very nice organisational touch, assisting my brain in associating windows on the screen with what I should expect to find in them.
As for many windows:
- just hold shift as you click a folder
OR
- use the "close parent folders" option in the file menu
As for navigation: Did you miss the button in the bottom left that drops down to show the hierarchy of folders, and lets you open any them by selecting them?
I've noticed Nautilus in Ubuntu seems to be screwed up wrt spatial though, least it's quite different to Fedora. Did they apply weird patches?
I didn't like the switch to spatial at first, but after using it it became clear that the reasoning for it was sound - it's much better to use than browser mode. Annoyed it's going away, hope they retain the option to have nautilus use spatial mode.
Well, you could use:
- A bank draft
- postal order
- Electronic funds transfer, (e.g. with your IBAN number)
The handbook may be out of date, but that section on X is just as true today as it was then. This part in particular hits the nail on the head:
(The idea of a window manager was added as an afterthought, and it shows.)
Yes indeed. Just look how stupid were the X designers to not have made TWM a core part of the protocol! </sarcasm>
It's amazing that people can quote from an old "haters handbook" straight-faced and claim X11 was designed badly, when all the points in that handbook are no longer relevant to modern GUIs, despite those GUIs still using X11! (While still supporting ancient apps using those obsolete technologies).
To me that says the X11 designers were amazingly prescient, and the commentators quoting from that handbook are quite clueless..
Well, the N900 has only just announced and isn't actually shipping yet...
EMEA accounts for 1/3 of Suns' income. That's what for..
Yeah, I really hope China gets tougher on environmental standards.
Nouveau works great here for multiple desktop screens, randr 1.2 and everthing.
You also have the advantage of less than 15 million people voting, whereas in the last election in the US about 136.6 million voted.
Uhm, vote counting is an embarrassingly scaleable problem. I.e. the number of voters is mostly irrelevant (on the safeish presumption that you can extract the same proportion of counters from each population at equivalent per-counter costs). It's an O(logn) problem.
The other nordic countries have hellish tax-rates.
Yeah, but they get it back in free healthcare, education, long child-care leave, etc.. etc..
US media is free, and you are free to chose who you listen to
That's missing the point though. The OP might be wise and get their news from a variety of sources so as to form their own, considered opinion. However when more than half of your neighbours are getting their news from crazies on Fox news, you'd be right to get worried.
That the media is free has nothing to do with it.
Oh, the good few years is for those who leave. It's unclear exactly how many leave though and over what spans of time, but presumably the 92%/at-least-5-years figure for PhDs is still not too far off the mark (and those 5 years are /after/ the 3-5 years of research done in the USA as part of the PhD).
You know that PhD and (to a lesser extent) masters students are basically the dogs-bodies of academia, right? I.e. they're usually the ones doing the heavy-lifting investigative work to support the research interests of their supervisor. If you seriously constrain the pool of available PhD students, then you're making it harder for your professors and Universities to get their research done.
The sheer ignorance on display in some parts of this discussion are amazing. Doubly amazing when you consider /.'s readership is biased towards being significantly more educated than the average American. If this represents mainstream thinking in the USA, then one must worry the USA is doomed to a dark period of shoot-in-the-foot policies driven by xenophobism.
(I say this as someone who believes the health of the USA's economy is vitally important to that of the globe's, and has a mostly-positive opinion of it. NB: the country I live in also is experiencing some measure of xenophobist-pandering policy setting).
Ur, can you not read the article? Very few immediately return. The US gets a good few years of work out of them. Thanks to the conditions of the H1B programme, they're pretty much indentured servants - and it's /that/ aspect perhaps which puts US workers at a slight disadvantage.
Anyway, the rest of the world, Europe particularly, will be quite happy to see the US turn away the brightest of developing countries. Bedankt!
Water dispenser machines that automatically boil the water for you are very common in Chinese homes and elsewhere. Bottled water is also readily to hand across China.
Does it suck compared to having potable water flow out the tap, sure, and no doubt the chinese will in time invest an fix it. The situation however is much *better* than my memories of holidaying in various parts of the European mediterranean as recently as the 80s.
Why is the parent marked a troll? While their position is perhaps slightly too extreme to be entirely reasonable, it is always important to consider the effect of business influences on public policy. For, make no mistake, such interests *do* have influence even if the interest is exercised benignly by good people.
One possible disadvantage to drones controlled from hundreds (if not thousands) of km away: Lag.