Colour me surprised, but all of my 'hot-plugging' of hardware is done virtual.
Want extra disk, add extra disk to the SAN and present it on the fly to my VM. Want an extra interface, just add it on the fly. How many people are still actually doing this on the fly on physical hardware?
Systemd does not add any substantial benefits over sysV init and if Lennart acts like an ahole and completely disregards a large user base, he can expect people to react back in a similar way as well, even though I feel that the kickstarter thing was a bit over the top.
This is a reaction to previous action though and essentially is a sign of the feeling of helplessness a large user base has, when they feel they have to resort to these extreme measures.
Not saying it's good, but it's nevertheless unsurprising.
It should indeed include all passengers who flew in the same plane after this passenger came on board and people who cleaned the plane and/or did any maintenance on it. Both on each point of origin and destination
Anybody who thinks that hospitals in the 'first world' are able to cope with Ebola once it's starting to spread is deluding himself.
I've been in unix for over 20 years and never even heard of kill -1.
That's very honest of you. Don't know what you've been doing in Unix, but not knowing how to issue a SIGHUP signal (or why) after working with Unix for 20 years is not particularly a recommendation.
Probably best not to mention that on any future interviews.
Really? You don't reboot after a kernel security update?
I do believe that the comment also include "and in scheduled windows".
I entirely agree that boot time is a non-issue
Though that seems to be the primary selling point of systemd. It's the first or almost the first issue that is brought up by systemd proponents.
In sysvinit, the/etc/rc.d directories are full of symlinks to/etc/init.d scripts, with "magic" prefixes to control priority.
You do realise that the order of execution is the alphabetical order in which these links appear in the directory. Nothing 'magic' about it, just using default behaviour that's already inherent in the OS. Simple.
And the systemd scripts are simpler. In sysvinit, every single script reinvents the wheel by including a big bunch of the same boilerplate.
OMG, the horror of having a few kB at most copied into different scripts, it's unbelievable.
A large part of the issues that countries like Venezuala (and Cuba) are having is that their internal stability is constantly being fueled by US foreign policy.
Cuba is actually doing fairly well now despite having had a boycott imposed for the last 50 years.
Adjusting for inflation, one dollar in 1953, would give you the same purchasing power as almost $9 today, with the $9 actually being a lower estimate.
So after adjusting for inflation, I'd still say that $16T today is less than $2.5T in 1953.
I would agree that it is much more complex, and therefore much more vulnerable to bugs, but that is the price of actually having an init that does things.
If you like buggy, monolithic services, why don't you just run a Windows server instead of infecting Linux. I am getting more and more the feeling that systemd is being pushed to kill of Linux.
Or maybe you have never used the last command to parse the binary log file which is wtmp either.
The wtmp, utmp and btmp files are the biggest pain in the ass when it comes to setting up centralised logging. In my view putting authentication info in these binary logs is one of the bigger mistakes made in Unix' murky past. And now we have someone repeating the same mistake with systemd
I do too, and if I am looking for something new, I will first go to GOG and to Steam second if GOG doesn't have what I am looking for.
Even if the GOG version is a couple of dollars more, I'd rather have a binary that I can download and install at my convenience, then a download only version.
It will lower the threshold to continue or start using proprietary software though. It's about the market share first, the money follows later once you've cornered the market.
That is true, but only when looking at TCO in the short term. In the longer term, proprietary software will always turn out more expensive. Either because licencing fees go up or the business eventually goes out of business and expensive projects will need to be started to replace the functionality of the now unsupported software. Using free open source software, means that the user always has access to the technology and is able to ensure the product continues to perform the function that it was intended to perform, which in turn improves business continuity.
Unfortunately, most people don't plan beyond the next couple of years and short term gains have become more important than long term continuity.
It looks like mayor of Munich is the one complaining about Limux, while the entire city council is united and calls it "sachfremde Einzelmeinungen", which translates into 'a single opinion from someone who's talking out of his arse'.
Yes. Same here. Never did any work in primary and secondary and still had good grades. In primary school I was offered to have me skip a grade, but my parents were too afraid that I wouldn't be able to cope with older classmates (just one year difference is a fairly big deal when in primary).
This resulted in being bored at school and generally becoming lazy, because I was not being challenged. Then in tertiary, all of a sudden there were some topics that did actually needed some work to pass and I failed miserably.
In hindsight, skipping a grade early on would probably have given me a proper challenge. On the other hand, being lazy and fairly smart is the perfect combination for a good systems admin.
I am sorry, but you obviously missed the part where people involved in the military coup to oust the old president were giving nazi salutes and one of the ministers of the current UA government proposing measures in eastern Ukraine that essentially come done to ethnic cleansing.
Not saying that the separatists in the Ukraine are all honky-dorey, but at least they're not neo-nazis.
And due to the enormous amount of false flag operations that have been done by the US (since the US is backing the UA government), they may actually get away with it as well.
On the other hand. The dutch royal airline (KLM) pre-emptively stopped flying through Ukranian air spance quite some time ago.
It's the difference between, 'it's probably going to be ok' and 'we're not taking any chances'.
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Typical response of a Windows admin.
Colour me surprised, but all of my 'hot-plugging' of hardware is done virtual.
Want extra disk, add extra disk to the SAN and present it on the fly to my VM. Want an extra interface, just add it on the fly. How many people are still actually doing this on the fly on physical hardware?
Systemd does not add any substantial benefits over sysV init and if Lennart acts like an ahole and completely disregards a large user base, he can expect people to react back in a similar way as well, even though I feel that the kickstarter thing was a bit over the top.
This is a reaction to previous action though and essentially is a sign of the feeling of helplessness a large user base has, when they feel they have to resort to these extreme measures.
Not saying it's good, but it's nevertheless unsurprising.
It should indeed include all passengers who flew in the same plane after this passenger came on board and people who cleaned the plane and/or did any maintenance on it. Both on each point of origin and destination
Anybody who thinks that hospitals in the 'first world' are able to cope with Ebola once it's starting to spread is deluding himself.
I've been in unix for over 20 years and never even heard of kill -1.
That's very honest of you. Don't know what you've been doing in Unix, but not knowing how to issue a SIGHUP signal (or why) after working with Unix for 20 years is not particularly a recommendation.
Probably best not to mention that on any future interviews.
Really? You don't reboot after a kernel security update?
I do believe that the comment also include "and in scheduled windows".
I entirely agree that boot time is a non-issue
Though that seems to be the primary selling point of systemd. It's the first or almost the first issue that is brought up by systemd proponents.
In sysvinit, the /etc/rc.d directories are full of symlinks to /etc/init.d scripts, with "magic" prefixes to control priority.
You do realise that the order of execution is the alphabetical order in which these links appear in the directory. Nothing 'magic' about it, just using default behaviour that's already inherent in the OS. Simple.
And the systemd scripts are simpler. In sysvinit, every single script reinvents the wheel by including a big bunch of the same boilerplate.
OMG, the horror of having a few kB at most copied into different scripts, it's unbelievable.
So how many servers are running OSX?
Do what the hell you want on your desktop, as long as it doesn't interfere with how I run my server farm.
Bugger.. that should be 'instability'.... need to stop commenting on Friday evenings...
A large part of the issues that countries like Venezuala (and Cuba) are having is that their internal stability is constantly being fueled by US foreign policy.
Cuba is actually doing fairly well now despite having had a boycott imposed for the last 50 years.
Adjusting for inflation, one dollar in 1953, would give you the same purchasing power as almost $9 today, with the $9 actually being a lower estimate. So after adjusting for inflation, I'd still say that $16T today is less than $2.5T in 1953.
Just another bandwagon MS is jumping on. Too late as usual.
I would agree that it is much more complex, and therefore much more vulnerable to bugs, but that is the price of actually having an init that does things.
If you like buggy, monolithic services, why don't you just run a Windows server instead of infecting Linux. I am getting more and more the feeling that systemd is being pushed to kill of Linux.
Or maybe you have never used the last command to parse the binary log file which is wtmp either.
The wtmp, utmp and btmp files are the biggest pain in the ass when it comes to setting up centralised logging. In my view putting authentication info in these binary logs is one of the bigger mistakes made in Unix' murky past. And now we have someone repeating the same mistake with systemd
I do too, and if I am looking for something new, I will first go to GOG and to Steam second if GOG doesn't have what I am looking for. Even if the GOG version is a couple of dollars more, I'd rather have a binary that I can download and install at my convenience, then a download only version.
Correct.
It will lower the threshold to continue or start using proprietary software though. It's about the market share first, the money follows later once you've cornered the market.
In some cases the TCO will be lower,
That is true, but only when looking at TCO in the short term. In the longer term, proprietary software will always turn out more expensive. Either because licencing fees go up or the business eventually goes out of business and expensive projects will need to be started to replace the functionality of the now unsupported software. Using free open source software, means that the user always has access to the technology and is able to ensure the product continues to perform the function that it was intended to perform, which in turn improves business continuity.
Unfortunately, most people don't plan beyond the next couple of years and short term gains have become more important than long term continuity.
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http://www.heise.de/open/meldu...
It looks like mayor of Munich is the one complaining about Limux, while the entire city council is united and calls it "sachfremde Einzelmeinungen", which translates into 'a single opinion from someone who's talking out of his arse'.
Yes, I use both operating systems as well. Windows for gaming, Linux for any real work.
Yes. Same here. Never did any work in primary and secondary and still had good grades. In primary school I was offered to have me skip a grade, but my parents were too afraid that I wouldn't be able to cope with older classmates (just one year difference is a fairly big deal when in primary).
This resulted in being bored at school and generally becoming lazy, because I was not being challenged. Then in tertiary, all of a sudden there were some topics that did actually needed some work to pass and I failed miserably.
In hindsight, skipping a grade early on would probably have given me a proper challenge. On the other hand, being lazy and fairly smart is the perfect combination for a good systems admin.
the trend in network devices at the moment is to build the hardware once and then license different throughput levels
You must be new here.
I am sorry, but you obviously missed the part where people involved in the military coup to oust the old president were giving nazi salutes and one of the ministers of the current UA government proposing measures in eastern Ukraine that essentially come done to ethnic cleansing. Not saying that the separatists in the Ukraine are all honky-dorey, but at least they're not neo-nazis.
And due to the enormous amount of false flag operations that have been done by the US (since the US is backing the UA government), they may actually get away with it as well.
He has been personally sanctioned by the EU
I don't know what you've been smoking, but the EU is firmly supporting the new Ukranian government in Kiev.
On the other hand. The dutch royal airline (KLM) pre-emptively stopped flying through Ukranian air spance quite some time ago. It's the difference between, 'it's probably going to be ok' and 'we're not taking any chances'.