Your software engineers are concerned with "getting the right answer" and general quality. When you add a new UI you add failure points and lower quality. That's why they are saying that it is not worth it. If you can show a UI design that doesn't lower quality, they will buy-in.
I strongly agree with your "no no no". But not your comment that software in not manufacturing (this is an argument for a different time/place). We have known for 50 years that we should design top-down and code/implement bottom up. The salesmen and users don't get this. They tend to be flat-landers not understanding infrastructure and architecture. Of course many don't care. They are sociopaths anyway.
Quality is a good thing. Indirectly, it is a measure of simplicity. We should never embrace the ideas of managing complexity (other than getting rid of it).
personally I reserve the word "programming" to describe activities that include if-then-else, do-while, do-until, and sequence. Most business applications do not go beyond the math of general accounting
Maybe the C.S. curriculum is flawed. The once was a business data processing degree. We should find out what information is actually needed to be a successful programmer and designer. Look at the top programmer/designers through history, few if any had C.S. degrees.
We are conditioned (brain washed) into thinking that everything must be sweet. Apparently the reason people don't simply drink water is that it is not sweet. It seems to be affecting our language - people, especially young people, equate "sweet" with "good". I saw a teenager putting sugar on his salad the other day!!
It's not just engine noise that is faked - - - apparently some car manufacturers modify the power steering to make it more retro. This modification makes feedback from the road to the steering wheel. It causes the steering wheel to jerk around - not much just some
Your optometrist made a mistake. Go back and get reading glasses only. Progressive lenses were brought out to hide the line in bifocals. You don't need bifocals! Functionally they were always a mistake. They cost more, that's why he sold them to you.
Is this the same Oregon political organization that brought us the Sellwood Bridge - - - - one of the biggest engineering fiascoes I have ever witnessed!
I agree. We all have our filters and think reality is what we see through them. One of my undergraduate degrees is in Philosophy including Symbolic Logic. The first time I saw 360 Assembler language I thought, "What's new?". I was coding in a few days and proficiently in a few weeks. So I could easily argue that the study of Bertrand Russell's "Principia Mathematica " is necessary to become a programmer. A twisted ironic view of this is that Russell proved that mathematics is based upon programming - - - - well not really. He proved that mathematics is logical.
And as we know today, programming is logical. We probably also have noticed that the relationships between Logic, Math., and Programming is non-simple.
We need to remember our history. First there was VisiCalc, then Lotus, etc. These were used by end-users who didn't want to put up with I.T. professionals. So all the software engineering and quality was thrown out. Then upper management gave these end-users the budget!!
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Your software engineers are concerned with "getting the right answer" and general quality. When you add a new UI you add failure points and lower quality. That's why they are saying that it is not worth it. If you can show a UI design that doesn't lower quality, they will buy-in.
Well - yes. The engineers wouldn't do it for free. The guys supplying the reward are to blame, including the CEO
As part of the contract to clean the towers, the workers must drink some of the water once a week for three months
That's correct. Even in IT most people can't code
I strongly agree with your "no no no". But not your comment that software in not manufacturing (this is an argument for a different time/place). We have known for 50 years that we should design top-down and code/implement bottom up. The salesmen and users don't get this. They tend to be flat-landers not understanding infrastructure and architecture. Of course many don't care. They are sociopaths anyway. Quality is a good thing. Indirectly, it is a measure of simplicity. We should never embrace the ideas of managing complexity (other than getting rid of it).
personally I reserve the word "programming" to describe activities that include if-then-else, do-while, do-until, and sequence. Most business applications do not go beyond the math of general accounting
I just hope they don't evolve to be as big as dogs!
Now I have another reason to go back to Firefox
Maybe the C.S. curriculum is flawed. The once was a business data processing degree. We should find out what information is actually needed to be a successful programmer and designer. Look at the top programmer/designers through history, few if any had C.S. degrees.
Why? You didn't withhold judgment when you decided Snowden was a hero!
The Eskimo Snow idea may or not be true - - but it sure is a fun idea. The whole Whorfian hypothesis has been debunked by a long series of straw men.
What personal cost? - - - Snowden will be running for the Senate in 10 years. He's a narcissist like most other politicians.
When you are older you will change your mind about Snowden. He committed treason. He could have gotten the same effect without the narcissism.
Now we know why SETI has never made contact. Every other civilization came to the same end
Where is the science behind this? I suspect both statements are hogwash
We are conditioned (brain washed) into thinking that everything must be sweet. Apparently the reason people don't simply drink water is that it is not sweet. It seems to be affecting our language - people, especially young people, equate "sweet" with "good". I saw a teenager putting sugar on his salad the other day!!
Very good! It is very disappointing to see such over-generalizations
It's not just engine noise that is faked - - - apparently some car manufacturers modify the power steering to make it more retro. This modification makes feedback from the road to the steering wheel. It causes the steering wheel to jerk around - not much just some
Your optometrist made a mistake. Go back and get reading glasses only. Progressive lenses were brought out to hide the line in bifocals. You don't need bifocals! Functionally they were always a mistake. They cost more, that's why he sold them to you.
Adobe? That the snotty Canadian company. Right? Maybe we should consider them terrorists!
Is this the same Oregon political organization that brought us the Sellwood Bridge - - - - one of the biggest engineering fiascoes I have ever witnessed!
The rich people, the people in charge, don't send their children to public schools.
I agree. We all have our filters and think reality is what we see through them. One of my undergraduate degrees is in Philosophy including Symbolic Logic. The first time I saw 360 Assembler language I thought, "What's new?". I was coding in a few days and proficiently in a few weeks. So I could easily argue that the study of Bertrand Russell's "Principia Mathematica " is necessary to become a programmer. A twisted ironic view of this is that Russell proved that mathematics is based upon programming - - - - well not really. He proved that mathematics is logical. And as we know today, programming is logical. We probably also have noticed that the relationships between Logic, Math., and Programming is non-simple.
In solving mysteries, always watch where the money flows
We need to remember our history. First there was VisiCalc, then Lotus, etc. These were used by end-users who didn't want to put up with I.T. professionals. So all the software engineering and quality was thrown out. Then upper management gave these end-users the budget!!