Been there, done that. If being on-call means a miserable 200 Euros per month, I prefer not to be on call. In fact I do avoid any job adverts that specifically mention on-call or schedule rotation. Accounting to the hours I have worked outside normal hours, if that is wise or not, now it is a different talk; however I manage them myself, on my own time, with no pressure.
I am toying around the idea of moving to FreeBSD over the fascist decision of ramming systemd down our throats. However I might add that I am using Jessie without it. However, what is holding me back is the devops developments, Ansible and docker. What is your take on that?
We see informercials every week here that we cannot get people who do not smoke pot. Most of the people does not even know and care how to cook, to lift the toilet lid before peeing, how to park correctly the car, or not so force others to smoke around them in public, or for that matter to put trash in the appropriate places and not in the floor...Most people even are functional illiterates....I would guess we have so much more to worry about before extending the policy of no child left behind to programming. How about outlawing programming learning to even the playing field for the less fortunate in the society?
The point is exactly fairness. You see misogynist all the time, however instead of misandrist, you see feminist. How this is fair and not name shaming, would please someone enlighten me.
My favourite fiction story is they expecting their customers to cough 60 USD for a copy of Doom. If it were a third or even half, I would bet they would have more customers and even earn more money. 60 USD for a fucking game. No way, José.
Realtek is really bad. Cheap chips made in a tight budget FULL of bugs, from dropping connections to stop working for seconds due to heating... http://unix.stackexchange.com/...
I already did some investigations. The BB Green imported from the USA costs around 60USD, and at that value, it will get it with import taxes. At the end of the day, it will cost around 100 USD. The Pi 3 costs here around 55USD. By that kind of money I can buy much more interesting chinese boards.
I am suspect in that I am interesting on the boards for headless operation. The main complaint I have about the H3 is not supporting SATA however the higher end Orange PI boards have eMMC support, though a tad more expensive.
If having problems with Linux try ArmBian. They have not yet finished their work in the Orange PI boards, however they already have got the ethernet working.
Whilst the 64 bits are mainly for show in the raspberry (yet) as all the software still is 32 bits. The show this year will be the new 64 bits machines.
In that respect we have the new 64 bit newcomers the Raspberry PI 3, the Odroid C2 and the Pine 64. The Odroid C2 seems the more interesting and faster of the three. Good quality hardware, good ecosystem of parts (on-store), reliability. Alas, the transport fees are obscene, and in Europe converting dollars to euros, you are paying around more 40%-80% for it, and the parts can get to the double of the price, and to top it of, still obscene transportation costs. So to sum it up, the Odroid only makes sense to people in the US (ameridroid store), or Korea (hardkernel store).. For the kind of money involved buying it, you can buy much better hardware, and it is not definitively on the price range for small projects.
The Pine 64 it is built on the cheap. The team does not seems savvy enough about open source though. Time will tell.
Raspberry PI 3 has the ecosystem, and the hardware decoding. The hardware decoding part is still tying it to 32 bit software. Strange choices have been made in the architecture (cost? compatibility), that tie it to 1GB of RAM. So contrary to the other two alternatives, it is a dead-end architecture running in 32 bits and limited to 1GB of RAM. For that enough, I would wait for the Raspberry "4".
Lemaker also has interesting hardware in the 64 bit field, but unfortunately, it seems to have only USB and HDMI. Odd.
As for the 32-bits alternatives, the market is relatively crowded, and a few Chinese vendors can give you a run for the money, in the costs of board+fees. Often they have small or no extra costs. Depending on what you need, you can have broads from 12 euros (orange PI H3), to more interesting boards like the banana Pro or the Lamobo R1/Banana PI R1 for a modest router.
I already own a Lamobo R1 and an Orange PI. I am using the R1 as an home server, and testing the Orange PI. Still waiting for an interesting and cheap 64-bit ARM or MIPS.
I am so sorry that I step on your sensitivities, and you prefer to complain about it than adding something of value to the discussion, noble AC.
The Periods are rather intencional.
From *my point of view* there is little that can be done about the Pine 64 being done in the cheap by someone that has a dubious marketing background with a Chinese approach of just getting out of the door and pretty much nothing else, and about the ODroid being absurdly priced in Europe, to the tune of a decently equipped ODroid that costs 80 bucks in USA or Korea, going to the tune of 150 bucks with all the costs added if bought in the French or German store. I am certain that are certainly other points that can be discussed; however those above are a serious deal breaker.
I might also have more things to do spend my time wisely than dealing with negative idiots. Regards.
ARM 64 is till relatively a new field. Maybe they are waiting for the competition and the open source community brave the way. It seems rather obvious they have not yet figure out or fully tested how to keep the video licensing scheme out of the 32-bit world. However, with them artificially limited to 1GB, the point of going to 64 bits is rather moot.
As you have nicely put, most of the Pis competition do not have a clear path at all. The Banana PI brand for instance, just buys other interesting broads, and rebrands them as banana pi.
As for the BeagBone it is rather an interesting board, the lack of RAM and the price base does not help. However it is very interesting it has a very strong point in being compatible with FreeBSD and NetBSD.
Search for one with SATA connectors. I have the lamobo PI R1 a tad more expensive, any ARM A20 based SBC with a SATA connector will be more than enough, for instance the banana pi or the banana pro.
Whilst the 64 bits are mainly for show in the raspberry (yet) as all the software still is 32 bits...(...) The show this year will be the new 64 bits machine.
In that respect we have the new 64 bit newcomers the Raspberry PI 3, the Odroid C2 and the Pine 64.
The Odroid C2 seems the more interesting and faster of the two. Good quality hardware, good ecosystem of parts, reliability. Alas, the transport fees are obscene, and in Europe converting dollars to euros, you are paying around more 40%-80% for it, and the parts can get to the double of the price, and to top it of, still obscene transportation costs. So to sum it up, the Odroid only makes sense to people in the US (ameridroid store), or Korea (hardkernel store). Period. For the kind of money involved buying it, you can buy much better hardware, and it is not definitively on the price range for small projects.
The Pine 64 it is built on the cheap, period. The team does not seems savvy enough about open source though. Time will tell.
Raspberry PI 3 has the ecosystem, and the hardware decoding. The hardware decoding part is still tying it to 32 bit software. Strange choices have been made in the architecture (cost? compatibility), that tie it to 1GB of RAM. So contrary to the other two alternatives, it is a dead-end architecture running in 32 bits and limited to 1GB of RAM. For that enough, I would wait for the Raspberry "4".
Lemaker also has interesting hardware in the 64 bit, but unfortunately, it seems to have only USB and HDMI. Odd.
As for the 32-bits alternatives, the market is relatively crowd, and a few Chinese vendors can give you a run for the money, in the costs of board+fees. Depending on what you need, you can have broads from 12 euros (orange PI H3), to more interesting boards like the banana Pro or the Lamobo R1/Banana PI R1 for a modest router. Often they have small or no extra costs.
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Been there, done that. If being on-call means a miserable 200 Euros per month, I prefer not to be on call. In fact I do avoid any job adverts that specifically mention on-call or schedule rotation. Accounting to the hours I have worked outside normal hours, if that is wise or not, now it is a different talk; however I manage them myself, on my own time, with no pressure.
I am toying around the idea of moving to FreeBSD over the fascist decision of ramming systemd down our throats. However I might add that I am using Jessie without it. However, what is holding me back is the devops developments, Ansible and docker. What is your take on that?
We see informercials every week here that we cannot get people who do not smoke pot. Most of the people does not even know and care how to cook, to lift the toilet lid before peeing, how to park correctly the car, or not so force others to smoke around them in public, or for that matter to put trash in the appropriate places and not in the floor...Most people even are functional illiterates....I would guess we have so much more to worry about before extending the policy of no child left behind to programming. How about outlawing programming learning to even the playing field for the less fortunate in the society?
sarcasm on: He could have changed the password, and then they would not know how to regain it back....
Or if instead of offering peanuts that only bring deadbeat people, they pay real salaries.
The point is exactly fairness. You see misogynist all the time, however instead of misandrist, you see feminist. How this is fair and not name shaming, would please someone enlighten me.
My favourite fiction story is they expecting their customers to cough 60 USD for a copy of Doom. If it were a third or even half, I would bet they would have more customers and even earn more money. 60 USD for a fucking game. No way, José.
Despite having many assassinations, car accidents, or robberies they do not become legal. Time for a class action?
Sending jobs to open printers in the Internet without any kind of authentication is "hacking"? Slashdot, what have you became...
Realtek is really bad. Cheap chips made in a tight budget FULL of bugs, from dropping connections to stop working for seconds due to heating... http://unix.stackexchange.com/...
RPZ policy in BIND, .OM added to backlisting. If someone interested on it, I will give a link to the tutorial I wrote.
I am running an internal DNS at home, BIND+RPZ, and as reading this article I added .OM to my RPZ. Problem solved.
Best comment so far!
I already did some investigations. The BB Green imported from the USA costs around 60USD, and at that value, it will get it with import taxes. At the end of the day, it will cost around 100 USD. The Pi 3 costs here around 55USD. By that kind of money I can buy much more interesting chinese boards.
Really interesting, thanks for the pointer!
And in europe,with the board price and shipping costs, it is in the range of $80-$90, only the gods know why.
I am far much more interested in headless operation, as I already own devices for video. I might give my Orange PI one board to a nephew.
I am suspect in that I am interesting on the boards for headless operation. The main complaint I have about the H3 is not supporting SATA however the higher end Orange PI boards have eMMC support, though a tad more expensive.
If having problems with Linux try ArmBian. They have not yet finished their work in the Orange PI boards, however they already have got the ethernet working.
Thanks for the comment about the ordeal...I tried to format it and correct some obvious mistakes.
Whilst the 64 bits are mainly for show in the raspberry (yet) as all the software still is 32 bits. The show this year will be the new 64 bits machines.
In that respect we have the new 64 bit newcomers the Raspberry PI 3, the Odroid C2 and the Pine 64. The Odroid C2 seems the more interesting and faster of the three. Good quality hardware, good ecosystem of parts (on-store), reliability. Alas, the transport fees are obscene, and in Europe converting dollars to euros, you are paying around more 40%-80% for it, and the parts can get to the double of the price, and to top it of, still obscene transportation costs. So to sum it up, the Odroid only makes sense to people in the US (ameridroid store), or Korea (hardkernel store).. For the kind of money involved buying it, you can buy much better hardware, and it is not definitively on the price range for small projects.
The Pine 64 it is built on the cheap. The team does not seems savvy enough about open source though. Time will tell.
Raspberry PI 3 has the ecosystem, and the hardware decoding. The hardware decoding part is still tying it to 32 bit software. Strange choices have been made in the architecture (cost? compatibility), that tie it to 1GB of RAM. So contrary to the other two alternatives, it is a dead-end architecture running in 32 bits and limited to 1GB of RAM. For that enough, I would wait for the Raspberry "4".
Lemaker also has interesting hardware in the 64 bit field, but unfortunately, it seems to have only USB and HDMI. Odd.
As for the 32-bits alternatives, the market is relatively crowded, and a few Chinese vendors can give you a run for the money, in the costs of board+fees. Often they have small or no extra costs. Depending on what you need, you can have broads from 12 euros (orange PI H3), to more interesting boards like the banana Pro or the Lamobo R1/Banana PI R1 for a modest router.
I already own a Lamobo R1 and an Orange PI. I am using the R1 as an home server, and testing the Orange PI. Still waiting for an interesting and cheap 64-bit ARM or MIPS.
I am so sorry that I step on your sensitivities, and you prefer to complain about it than adding something of value to the discussion, noble AC.
The Periods are rather intencional.
From *my point of view* there is little that can be done about the Pine 64 being done in the cheap by someone that has a dubious marketing background with a Chinese approach of just getting out of the door and pretty much nothing else, and about the ODroid being absurdly priced in Europe, to the tune of a decently equipped ODroid that costs 80 bucks in USA or Korea, going to the tune of 150 bucks with all the costs added if bought in the French or German store. I am certain that are certainly other points that can be discussed; however those above are a serious deal breaker.
I might also have more things to do spend my time wisely than dealing with negative idiots. Regards.
ARM 64 is till relatively a new field. Maybe they are waiting for the competition and the open source community brave the way. It seems rather obvious they have not yet figure out or fully tested how to keep the video licensing scheme out of the 32-bit world. However, with them artificially limited to 1GB, the point of going to 64 bits is rather moot.
As you have nicely put, most of the Pis competition do not have a clear path at all. The Banana PI brand for instance, just buys other interesting broads, and rebrands them as banana pi.
As for the BeagBone it is rather an interesting board, the lack of RAM and the price base does not help. However it is very interesting it has a very strong point in being compatible with FreeBSD and NetBSD.
Search for one with SATA connectors. I have the lamobo PI R1 a tad more expensive, any ARM A20 based SBC with a SATA connector will be more than enough, for instance the banana pi or the banana pro.
Whilst the 64 bits are mainly for show in the raspberry (yet) as all the software still is 32 bits...(...) The show this year will be the new 64 bits machine. In that respect we have the new 64 bit newcomers the Raspberry PI 3, the Odroid C2 and the Pine 64. The Odroid C2 seems the more interesting and faster of the two. Good quality hardware, good ecosystem of parts, reliability. Alas, the transport fees are obscene, and in Europe converting dollars to euros, you are paying around more 40%-80% for it, and the parts can get to the double of the price, and to top it of, still obscene transportation costs. So to sum it up, the Odroid only makes sense to people in the US (ameridroid store), or Korea (hardkernel store). Period. For the kind of money involved buying it, you can buy much better hardware, and it is not definitively on the price range for small projects. The Pine 64 it is built on the cheap, period. The team does not seems savvy enough about open source though. Time will tell. Raspberry PI 3 has the ecosystem, and the hardware decoding. The hardware decoding part is still tying it to 32 bit software. Strange choices have been made in the architecture (cost? compatibility), that tie it to 1GB of RAM. So contrary to the other two alternatives, it is a dead-end architecture running in 32 bits and limited to 1GB of RAM. For that enough, I would wait for the Raspberry "4". Lemaker also has interesting hardware in the 64 bit, but unfortunately, it seems to have only USB and HDMI. Odd. As for the 32-bits alternatives, the market is relatively crowd, and a few Chinese vendors can give you a run for the money, in the costs of board+fees. Depending on what you need, you can have broads from 12 euros (orange PI H3), to more interesting boards like the banana Pro or the Lamobo R1/Banana PI R1 for a modest router. Often they have small or no extra costs.
For the privilege of paying double the price in the EU dealers, thanks, but no thanks. As much as I like odriod, I will go with the competition.