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Hacker Weev Admits To Hacking Printers To Spew Racist and Anti-Semitic Messages (softpedia.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Andrew Auernheimer, a black hat hacker known as "Weev," has admitted to hacking thousands of Internet-connected printers and making them print-out racist and anti-semitic messages. As you'd expect, the hack took place after the hacker used a simple port scanner and found millions of unprotected, Internet-accessible printers. He then used a one-line Bash command that sent them a PostScript file on port 9100. This triggered all printers to print his anti-semitic message. Ironically, the hacker is a former Jew turned neo-nazi while incarcerated for a questionable "hacking" incident when he revealed to Gawker that ATT had failed to protect one of their servers. The printer hack affected devices at USC, UC Berkeley, Northwestern, UMass, Princeton, Brown University, the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, DePaul University in Chicago, Clark University in Worcester, and many more.
The good old day..
"Ironically, the hacker is a former Jew"
Is an African American who develops a bizarre hatred of African Americans suddenly no longer black?
Is a white man who believes that whites are responsible for all the evil in the world suddenly Native American?
He can disavow Judaism - plenty of Jews do it. They're called "secular Jews." They're still Jews, and he is, too.
He posted on twitter before, during, and after the act.
Printer with public internet ip? why?
Spamming open printers is a high school-level, skiddy prank, at best.
Asshole acts like asshole
I am Slashdot. Are you Slashdot as well?
If you don't pay me 1K I will print page after page of pure LINES the ink costs will be more then the 1K
There are a lot of incompetent IT departments who never have pen tests.
Trump supporter
But different types of messages. Good stuff.
I wish people would stop calling this guy a hacker. He just walked through an unlocked door. Hardly breaking and entering.
Entering, maybe, but not breaking. Not a hack.
Well, what he did wasn't a hack, but what he is may be considered a hack.
The reason why Auernheimer chose to do this is rooted in his personal history. Back in 2010, while a member of the Goatse Security group, Auernheimer exposed a flaw in a public AT&T server to Gawker Media before telling AT&T about it. This incident led to the exposure of details about 114,000 iPad users.
FBI indicted Auernheimer, who was later sentenced to 41 months in jail, during which time he joined a "white nationalist" movement. Ironically, Auernheimer is a former jew converted to Mormonism.
lol.
Are local network printers in a public place fair game to print to under the law?
I know of libraries where you have to pay to print and they have some kind of card / coin system hooked to the printers and copiers.
Some hotels have free printers in the guest areas some even have them on the guest network.
DePaul University seems to have pay printing with 3rd party software?
But will the printers just show up in windows add printers just by it doing an local network printer scan? Now what if you are at a place with pay printing or printers that use some kind of AD lockdown / windows based pay printing but you don't know that (say they have free wifi) and windows just auto finds the printer / jet direct card did you just brake the law?
The 80's called... they want their prank back.
Take it easy, Charlie, I've got an Angle...
Ironically, the hacker is a former Jew turned neo-nazi while incarcerated for a questionable "hacking" incident when he revealed to Gawker that ATT had failed to protect one of their servers.
He wasn't incarcerated simply for 'revealing' the problems with ATT's lousy security. He was incarcerated because he took advantage of the problems to download as much information as possible on other customers. Not the same thing.
If I leave my car unlocked on a city street, I'm an idiot. If you steal it, you are still a thief. It seems like the same principle applies to his latest exploit.
"hacking a printer" maybe the pay system by just useing the open door to get past it.
Now let's say an hotel has payed breakfast but it's some what hidden as where that is listed and there is no on at the wide open door to the breakfast room and no system to stop people from useing the door at all?
For someone who seems to hate that movement a lot, you sure seem to post about frequently when it has nothing to do with story.
I'm further reminded of a post of yours from the other day in a different story. Let's see if you can spot the logical fallacy in your own comment.
Not "anybody"... What if he printed something like "Sanders2016" on all of those printers? You'd have those same folks defending him...
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
did you just brake the law?
Woah... Slow down there cowboy!
Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
What self loathing will make some people do.
Time makes more converts than reason
Neo-communist? The McCarthyites have come out in full force ever since Bernie started his run. I still haven't figured out if the communist label is out of laziness or stupidity.
Time makes more converts than reason
Weev is on Slashdot, I have seen him post several times.
I am sure he will comment on this one at some point.
I'm waiting for it! ;)
So where is your swastika tattoo? On your skin and/or in your brain?
Why is Snark Required?
I think of some car analogy with public stuff that is wide open to any but was not meant to be.
Like an semi official ramp that let's you unknowingly skip a toll they say it's maintenance use only but's not signed or very poorly signed and it shows up on GPS's and places like google maps.
Back ways into parking lot's that are not meant to be used but are and do show up on GPS's and places like google maps.
Permanent parking only lot's that are not singed / very poor singed / look like are for local businesses (but are really for some other uses or employees only) and look like ones that any one can use.
Private roads that look like real ones and show up on GPS's and places like google maps.
Now in cases like that they can try to throw the book at but will it stick?
When will @realDonaldTrump acknowledge his #gamergate fan base? #VoteTrump2016
Forth coming FBI indictment claim of damages: $17,000,000.32
the hacker is a former Jew turned neo-nazi
Okay guys, you're born a Jew or your are not born a Jew. If your mother was a Jew, you're a jew. If you're mother wasn't a Jew, You aren't a Jew. Its not something you get to pick.
Contrary to what Madonna thinks, Jews don't get to choose to be Jews and Catholics don't get to follow 'some' of the rules. You either are or aren't, there is no in-between.
Following Judaism doesn't make you a Jew, it makes you a follower of Judaism. Being born to a mother who is of Jewish decent makes you a Jew and you're a Jew for life in that case.
So, just for reference and clarity ... Any jew who calls himself a neo-nazi ... is ignorant moron who has no fucking clue what he's talking about. How fucking stupid can you get. Let me guess, he also has brown here and brown eyes and thinks the Aryan is going to rule the world ... with their blonde hair and blue eyes ... right?
Fucking moron.
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Yes and suddenly none of those things exist because you wave your magic three letter acronym at people that point them out.
It tends to be both, since the former tends to engender the latter.
... and then, the day came when Slashdot put GNAA leaders' articles on the frontpage, giving them attention.
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Oh, I know plenty of homophobes, racists, sexists, and xenophobes, and they are primarily found among progressives and social justice activists.
Oh, and "SJW" isn't "my" magic three letter acronym, it is something the so-called "social justice" activists came up with themselves, before they dragged it through the mud, like everything they touch.
My understanding is the hotel can ask you to leave, and if you don't, only then does it become a problem. If you go in, pick up a few muffins, and leave, and nobody tells you to stop, it seems like you'd be in the clear. I tried searching for someone being arrested for eating a hotel's breakfast, but the only stories that come up are a) a guy who was chased off, then came back and pretended to be a cop; and b) a woman who refused to leave, then punched a hotel employee. So they weren't arrested for eating the breakfast, but for trespass (refusing to leave) and impersonation and assault.
Gamergate will never die while people keep using it as the evil triggering boogeyman that dared to kick some hipster ass.
like the videos of floppy drives or dot matrix music.
I want the printers to play funky town. printing nazi crap is lame. I assume to make a printer stepper motor do that would actually take a bit of hacking, more than sending a specific file to print.
I would print out "You are going to end up like the Bernie baby"
Not really hacking if printer is open for anyone to print on it.
Funny, it doesn't look very defunct. Then again, it might look that way to an outsider, especially since it's basically won. Sites that were unethical, spouting garbage or running identity politics are either gone or suffering heavily financially. People who parroted those views have either quit or been fired, or moved down in the world to even worse sites. Not only can't you stop mentioning it, the media can't either. There's still 1-2 stories nearly every day about it. I think my personal favorite is how gamergate is now all the evils of the internet and worse then 4chan all rolled into one. Never mind of course that Weev was never a e-celeb or proponent. He was a successful troll in some aspects but that's it. Note how many articles there are spouting his pov...a whole not even one page of results from one of the main gamergate hubs. Yep, such a huge following, not only that but he's labeled as exactly who he is right off the bat. A member of GNAA, and his view points are spelt out right too.
One also can't forget that gamergate unlike those on the regressive left or regressive right doesn't believe in identity politics being the answer, rather that identity politics is cancer. Which means if someone has a good idea, it doesn't matter who they actually are. But, then again you've got all those people on the regressive left side of the spectrum that are pedophile defenders or openly pedophiles, that you like to rally around.
Om, nomnomnom...
Should have just stuck to quietly replacing every instance of the word "strategic" printed with the word "satanic."
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
It looks like sending him to prison the first time was counter-productive. What a surprise.
For those who don't know, weev is a member of a group that calls themselves the GNAA They formed over a decade ago for the purpose of committing abuse on Slashdot and other places. Every wonder why Slashdot scans you for being an open proxy before you post? That's because they abused unsecured proxies to flood Slashdot with thousands of spam comments. They flooded many other blogs in the same way, with the same spam inviting people to join their group. I suspect the message being flooded to printers is probably pretty close to the typical spam that gets posted to Slashdot. The background on weev actually explains a lot; the old messages used to include text like, "lol, jews did wtc," which clearly the antisemitism associated with weev. While they claim to be a security organization and spawned "Goatse Security," they're mostly a bunch of immature script kiddies looking to cause as much trouble as possible.
Note: Shame on you, Slashdot. Apparently I can't even post "Gay Niggger Association of America" (misspelling is intentional, to avoid the lameness filter), which happens to be ontopic and very relevant here. I understand the desire to get rid of spam, but surely there's a better way to stop it.
He'll have a direct line to "hack" critical hardware inside banks, law and investment firms, medical labs and offices and the even the Pentagon.
We're obviously doomed.
Of course they exist, I just won't automatically jump on the bandwagon to socially exile anybody without some kind of proof any more.
That said, they gave a copy of the Nazi nonsense weev was spreading, so yes, I have to agree that it was racist and disgusting.
I would have pumped a stock or something.
The IoT insecurity issue is one that needed highlighting in a way that people would notice, without any real harm being done. If this makes people close a few holes and go looking for others then it is without doubt a very good thing.
He could have done much worse, there are pieces of information that would fit onto a single page that could actually do a lot of harm if violent sociopaths got hold of it. So I see the Neo-Nazism thing as just an advertising ploy, like the sound of a door bell, microwave beep or phone ringing etc. in TV advertisements, a trigger. It makes you stop and take note, but it isn't the real message.
He wouldn't need to use such ploys if most people were not so shallow and ignorant in the first place. Then again advertising would not work either, if the majority of people were intelligent.
Does this guy also think it's okay to sit in someone's car and imagine themselves on a road trip if they leave their doors unlocked, or walk into someone's garage and start cataloging their possessions if they leave their roll-up door open overnight?
I like how you move from saying that this guy is racist (which he is), to implying that everyone who was a part of gamergate, including all the GLBT, minorities, etc. are taking part in a racist movement. Just because some game journalists are corrupt and try to convince simpletons that gamers are dead or racist/mysoginistic boogeymen when called on their corruption doesn't mean that everyone is in some kind of rush to join the morons at stormfront. Some of us would prefer to live in a world where the amount of melanin in one's skin was simply not important for any reason.
I can find plenty more racist among so-called progressives and they scare me more as they have more influence than some random idiot who I cannot ever remember taking seriously. Every sufficiently large group has undesirables in it. Even your in-groups. Ponder that, please.
I am sure he could have had the printers spew out plenty of things that would go unreported... as long as they were politically correct.
I am sure this guy violated FAX spamming and unauthorized computer access laws, but, on a related note the USA now punishes thought crimes.
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
Shhh, we're not supposed to call out the fallacy of guilt by association. You're allowed to use it against the *bad* guys, anyhow! I mean, we already know they're bad, so we couldn't just be mindlessly reinforcing our own predetermined biases! That's what the dumb people do, and we're not dumb, now, are we?
made by Microsoft. It's called "Surface" and only will cost taxpayers $9K.
Brilliant!
I'm gonna post this as an AC but my posting style and verbiage choices will probably ruin my attempt at anonymity.
I've been known to frequent a chat where our young Mr. Weev is known to hang out. In fact, I've conversed with him in "public" and in private numerous times. I hate to ruin this but it has gone on long enough. Weev is not now, nor has he ever been, racist. Oh, you'd think he is but I can assure you he is not.
You might ask yourself this, "Then why, Weev, why?" Well, I can tell you the answer to that... The answer is, "For the lulz." No, seriously - it's just for the lulz. If you're not sure what lulz are then I'd recommend searching the internet and then keep searching. And, lest you scoff in disdain, sometimes lulz are not only a worthy goal but a necessity. Lulz make the internet go 'round. Hell, lulz make the world go 'round. Without lulz, we'd have nothing.
At any rate... I suspect nobody will believe him if he comes out and says it was for the lulz, later in life perhaps, but now you know. He's about as racist as you are, really. He might even be slightly less racist than you.
Heh... Always in a rush, you are... ;-) Your brevity and verbiage belies your intent. Ah well... As I said above, lulz were had. Meh...
How damn effective prison gangs can be at "integrating" a person
Weev made a much more sympathetic figure when he was busy being a symbol of prosecutorial overreach and badly designed computer security laws. He's a lot less sympathetic as a committed white supremacist troll. Also see: This is why we can't have nice things.
Because hacker. No need to look at anything else. It's the law!
All these flavors...
Ah, that's our Joe. He's sometimes got novel things to say but at least he now uses a spell checker. Surely, you've seen him post before, right?
His grasp of the English language is different than what you or I have. In his defense, he does have a grasp on it and he does horrible things with it. Horrible, shameless, unspeakable things.
But, he's finally enabled spell check. That's enough to make me happy. Well, it makes me happy except when his spell check lets "payed" (I hate that spelling) through or lets him slide on homonyms. It's still a huge improvement.
So, thank you Joe, for using that spell check. I've been posting AC to him for ages and I appreciate how far he's come.
Well, it is mi you're replying to, so the label's partly out of asshole-ish-ness, some stupidity, and a heaping helping of reactionary retardedness.
His juvenile sig indicates exactly his small mentality.
Chapter 4 of "Stealing the Network: How to Own the Box"
According to Israel, the only way to stop being a Jew is to become a Christian - though the Nazis didn't agree.
Also according to Israel, conversion by an Orthodox Rabbi makes you a proper Jew. One of the hot topics is whether Reform Rabbi's conversion are acceptable - at the moment they are not.
My gosh, you slaughetered that straw man.
I live when people make up random shit, claim that someone they don't like would do it if only they could, then get angry and righteous about it. In fact you remind me of Angry Frank:
http://harryenfield.wikia.com/...
Now I'm going to have a chuckle watching some youtube clips.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
Sending jobs to open printers in the Internet without any kind of authentication is "hacking"? Slashdot, what have you became...
As you'd expect, the hack took place after the hacker used a simple port scanner and found millions of unprotected, Internet-accessible printers. He then used a one-line Bash command that sent them a PostScript file on port 9100.
There was hacking involved here? That's not hacking, there was no "creatively overcoming and circumventing limitations of systems to achieve novel and clever outcomes". Heavy emphasis on the word circumventing and novel here. He made use of unsecured systems that were open for anybody to use to print stuff in the intended way. But even if the nature of the material may have been offensive, it was still covered by the 1st amendment. The worst they can do is blame him for using the printers without the owner's permission and bill him for the wasted ink and paper. If he'd printed pictures of Miley Cyrus' bare butt instead of hateful racist bullshit he'd get off with a slap on the wrist for a frat party prank that went out of hand and would have to spend a few hours of community service mopping up vomit at a hospital or scooping up turds in dog-shit part.
Funny, it doesn't look very defunct. Then again, it might look that way to an outsider, especially since it's basically won.
Ah yes, claiming a win after an astonishingly thorough defeat. Reminds me of something:
Black Knight: Just a flesh wound.
Arthur: Look, stop that.
Black Knight: Coward! Coward!
Arthur: Look, I'll have your leg. Right!
Arthur cuts off the Black Knight's leg.
Black Knight: Right, I'll do something bad to you for that!
Arthur: You'll what?
Black Knight: Come here!
Arthur: What are you going to do, bleed on me?
Black Knight: I can't be beaten!
Arthur: You're a crazy person.
Black Knight: The Black Knight always wins! Let's fight! Come on then.
Arthur cuts off the Black Knight's other leg.
Black Knight: All right; we'll say the fight was equal.
Arthur: Come, Patsy. (to his servant)
Black Knight: Oh, oh, I see, running away then. You cowardly offensive man! Come back here and take what you deserve to get. I'll bite your legs off!
Sites that were unethical, spouting garbage or running identity politics are either gone or suffering heavily financially.
Like Gawker, right?
One also can't forget that gamergate unlike those on the regressive left or regressive right doesn't believe in identity politics being the answer, rather that identity politics is cancer.
No, they just believe in "ethics" as defined by (a) making shit up about people, (b) doxxing them and (c) the hate campaign,
SJW n. One who posts facts.
Everything is hacking as soon as someone calls it hacking. Everyone is a hacker as soon as someone says the word. It's the digital equivalent of a bogeyman. It is indeed short-hand for either "I don't know what I'm saying but I want to sound impressive" or "I'm trying to scare you here, heck I might be scared myself", or both.
Does that make the terms entirely meaningless? Why yes, yes it does. Why do vapid outfits like softpedia, and the whole of the computer security industry for that matter, even American Lawmakers, keep on using the terms anyway? You tell me.
It's like having a piano that's now in tune, but he's still hitting the wrong keys.
If by pure chance he hits the right keys, he hits them in the wrong order.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Fun fact: Joseph McCarthy was right, there really were Communists in the State Department. And these people really did mean to use their positions to overthrow the elected US government. Why couldn't it have happened? Subversion had worked great in the Chinese Communist revolution only a few years before. Time after time, patriotic Chinese resisting the foreign influence of Communism found their orders altered, their supplies missing, and their shells full of sand instead of gunpowder. By whom? Secret Communists in their own government, who had wormed their way to the top over decades. Mao couldn't have won without them. There are enormous monuments all over China dedicated to the invaluable services they performed.
This isn't some crazy cold war paranoia. This shit really happened. For real. Hell, ask Bernie's Brownshirts what kind of government they support for America - it sure ain't anything to do with the Constitution or a government that represents the interests of its citizens. Obama is on record at being angry about the separation of powers in the Constitution, he wants to just be able to rule by decree without any recourse to anyone. He just complained about it again in Argentina. OMG PARANOIA NUTBAGS BLAHBLAHBALHB WHARRRRAGARBLLLLL
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Both Racist AND Anti-Semitic messages? ... That means anti-semetism isnt racism!
I've noticed from this and some of your other comments that you truly are a wingnut, aren't you? Obama on record complaining about the separation of powers? Do go on!
Ah yes, claiming a win after an astonishingly thorough defeat. Reminds me of something:
So who were they defeated by? Looks like to me you're pretty damn salty that a leaderless grassroots revolt against shitty journalists that ran their own giant story/article writing collusion group akin to Journolist(which was called Gamejournopros). The leaks from that easily show exactly how much collusion was going on in that. And you're also very salty at just how these incestuous people were caught giving giving hand outs to their friends, people they were shacked up with, or fucking. Sure does speak a lot about people who don't give a shit that they're being lied to, and like it instead.
Like Gawker, right?
Well GG has never actually claimed for gawker, except costing them 7 figures in ad-revenue and showing people exactly how shitty they are. And showing advertisers exactly how shitty companies like Gawker are. You know, Gawker the same site that believes that bullying people is good. For a group of supposedly evil people though, GG's response was to donate to an anti-bullying campaign. But anti-GG? Oh they were right out there supporting what ol'Sam was saying. But other sites? Yep. Some are just significant drops in traffic, others have closed for good.
No, they just believe in "ethics" as defined by (a) making shit up about people, (b) doxxing them and (c) the hate campaign,
So who have they made shit up about? I'll wait. I'm sure you're going to try trotting out something on Quinn. You know, the same piece of shit that filed multiple false DMCA claims, and then slapped order against her ex because he pointed out that she was a domestic abuser, and was trying to warn others away from her. Also, who has GG doxxed? I'm sure they'll be forthcoming. I'll be happy to point out various anti-GG individuals who have openly doxxed people, and continue to do so to this day. Oh, like that prominent anti-GG person Graham Lineham. FYI, one of the most prominent anti-GG people was arrested a few months back for trying to tell a terrorist how to build a bomb. But they also wrote for big name progressive sites, and as a feminist too.
And what hate? Find it. Because I'll tell you something, anti-GG's have done a very good job of attacking anyone who refuses to fall in line with their group think. I think my person favorite is when anti-GGers decided the "if you're supporting GG, and you're a minority/women/etc., you're a racist/sexist/homophobes." But that's really all their arguments boil down to anyway, trying to claim that they're being harassed and screaming that people are racist/sexist/homophobes because they're losing an argument or being shown that they're actually the shitty people out there. I think my favorite out of all of that has been when Quinn and Sarkeesian ran to the UN crying about how demands for proof of their statements and criticism of their work was harassment.
The entire thing has done a wonderful job of proving how many people can't be bothered to actually read the news beyond what they're being told. Then again, I kinda like this bit too. Where people starting saying "muslims are terrorists," the media will start screaming "not all muslims are terrorists, you're just islamophobic!!!" But if one person in GG does something wrong, all of GG has done something wrong. Yep, no agenda there at all.
Om, nomnomnom...
Just because he's got a funny "hacker name" doesn't mean he's newsworthy.
NT
Racism is groundless hate based only on race.
1) If you have reasons to dislike certain groups (e.g. based on statistics [1]), then this is not racism.
2) Criticism is not hate.
[1] like ones saying that blacks commit 50% of murders in USA while being only 13% of the population. Which scientifically proves them to be way more aggressive.
Stop being a liberal already. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
-- Ed
AKA "undercover" hasbara troll.
For the lulz? Here is a one-hour interview with Weev on a well-known White Supremacist podcast. There are no lulz to be had, but a good deal of racism, discussion of "White Genocide" and promoting "noble European values".
http://www.redicecreations.com...
Promoting racism "for the lulz" and doing it at a scale like Weev does is an interesting way to get one's entertainment, you have to admit.
You are welcome on my lawn.
The problem is he port scanned to find the printers. The law in many places views that as going to every house in a town and checking to see if the front door is unlocked. Even if it is, all you did was avoid a "breaking an entering" charge but are still guilty of trespass.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Bullshit! I voted for Sanders and if this weev fellow had printed "Sanders2016" on those printers I'd be saying the following:
"This Weev is an idiot, you don't support a candidate by breaking the law and accessing a huge number of networked resources you don't have authorization to use. Throw the book at him and send him to PMITA federal prison for life."
Looks like to me you're pretty damn salty that a leaderless grassroots
No I'm just astonished that despite being founded on a fabrication (there were no reviews) and a harassment campaign people still keep insisting GG are somehow the good guys.
For a group of supposedly evil people though, GG's response was to donate to an anti-bullying campaign.
While simultaneously trying to bully Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn off the internet. Okey dokey then.
So who have they made shit up about?
1. Zoe Quinn
I'll wait. I'm sure you're going to try trotting out something on Quinn.
Yep!
You know, the same piece of shit that filed multiple false DMCA
Ah right so her doing something after this all blew up justifies you starting it off by making up lies. Ethics, got it. Must have been a pre-emptive ethical freedom strike.
And what hate? Find it
Visiting those cesspools? No thanks! I've seen enough before.
I think my favorite out of all of that has been when Quinn and Sarkeesian ran to the UN
Yes, you can just run right up to the UN and they let you in. True story. I'm sure the UN didn't, you know, invite them. And I must say that you seem, in your own words, rather salty about that if I say so myself.
The entire thing has done a wonderful job of proving how many people can't be bothered to actually read the news beyond what they're being told.
The irony, it burns.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
at least people will know who is really behind all this hacking hoopla and stop blaming poor people in Russia, China, Ukraine, etc.
A neo-communist? Only someone to the EXTREME right would think a New Deal Democrat (that's truly what Sanders is), is a communist.
If he aint talking about government ownership of all means of production....he isn't a communist.
Yes, Bernie Sanders is a Communist. And that particular article came out before he started to run for Presidency. The "Socialist" label he prefers is hardly better (Socialism is nothing but Communism-lite), but he was and remains a member and supporter of openly Communist organizations. As recently as 2014 Bernie Sanders was hailed by Democratic Socialists of America — a "New Left" organization comprised of what was left of the Socialist and Communist movements of the "Old Left". And he was not merely endorsed by these assholes (the way, Trump was endorsed by Duke) — Sanders was a distinguished speaker at a DSA gathering that year. On the same page the Senator is also called "DSA member".
The funny part is, most of his defenders would dispute — often angrily — the "Communist" label while also disagreeing, there is anything wrong with being a Communist. So, before going any further, please, state for the record, whether you are one of such people... Thanks!
While Fascism/Nazism is largely extinct from public life (though, sadly, not from government), Socialism/Communism — the far more murderous school of thought — is rearing its even uglier head... And not only on Slashdot.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Wow, it really would not take much to be convicted in a People's Court with you presiding... What would it be, your honor, 25 years of hard labor, or an execution in the basement?
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
It's a childish prank, which he should refrain from doing. It's about time for more age appropriate 'lulz'.
But it was not a straw man — look at CronoCloud's post below, for example. According to that, we should be seeing something posts rebutting Weev like this:
See? Though the words are right, they are lukewarm and hatred and passion are missing. CronoCloud is not calling Weev "Communist", for example, which you have to be to really support Bernie Sanders, for example. Not even "Socialist" (a.k.a. Communist-lite), which Sanders calls himself.
And, certainly, no SJW would call Weev "racist" or "homophobe" in that case — which is what I actually predicted.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Mmm, then are mDNS, uPNP, SSDP or any other service broadcast technology a form of luring the curious or even entrapment ?
But it was not a straw man
Yes it was because none of those events happened.
See? Though the words are right, they are lukewarm and hatred and passion are missing.
You absolute despicable liar. You cut off this bit of the quote:
Throw the book at him and send him to PMITA federal prison for life
He's calling for him to spend the rest of his life in a hellhole.
CronoCloud is not calling Weev "Communist"
Uh, so?
which you have to be to really support Bernie Sanders, for example
My god you have no idea what communism is. It's also funny that you think it's an insult. A clue for free: many people here aren't American and in any case, it's not 1950 any more.
Not even "Socialist" (a.k.a. Communist-lite), which Sanders calls himself.
"socialist" is only an insult if you're an incredibly silly person. To the rest of the world it's a simple fact. Are you going to criticise ChronoCloud for not including other irrelevant facts like a complete listing of all of Sanders' policies?
And, certainly, no SJW would call Weev "racist" or "homophobe" in that case
You know, words mean things. "racist" and "homophobe" are actually words that have meanings. They're not simply genericised insults. They are actual words with actual meanings. Citation: the dictionary. Any one you choose. If you post racist, homophobic things (and such things are often associated with Nazis, neo or otherwise) then you're racist and homophobic. If you send "vote sanders" messages, then that has no bearing on whether you're racist or homophbic.
which is what I actually predicted
So far all you have successfully predicted is that "SJWs" have a substantially better grasp of English than you do.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
He may not be talking about it openly, but there are enough dog whistles in there to attract vast packs. But, whether he talks about it is irrelevant — whether he believes in it is important. And he does... Bernie Sanders is a member of an organization, that is a thin front for Communists.
They know of the toxicity of the "Communist" label (preferring "Socialist" instead), but aren't shy about their admiration for Marx. For example, here DSA speaks fondly of the founder of Communist Party of Italy. Separately a member of DSA's "National Committee" David Green once wrote:
Ah, you'll say, that's all from capitalist haters, just can't be true, right? Well, here is fresh from DSA's own mouth (emphasis mine):
Good enough for you? Far less evidence was used to claim "Trump is a KKK-supporter" or something like that...
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In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
I wouldn't call this hacking...more like sending spam. He blasted a message to any device who would listen, and those that responded printed out what he sent.
Brainwashing is most likely really. Look at the fox news crowd squawk "socialist" and "communism" incessantly at Obamacare a freaking market based healthcare option.
Meanwhile those who didn't take in the height of cold war propaganda uncritically look at them like they are having psychotic break.
Talking about hypothetical events has nothing to do with a "strawman" argument which is defined thus:
Talking about a hypothetical can be a valid and useful rhetorical vehicle and not necessarily a "straw man". Talk about "grasp of English"... Or Logic, for that matter.
I cut off the part I deemed irrelevant. My linking to the original post is enough to refute accusations of "lying".
Born and raised in the USSR, I have a much better idea of what Communism is, than 90% of Americans.
Khmm... One would've thought, Hans Christian Andersen dispensed with that line of reasoning a century and half ago... No, darling, simply calling anyone who believes something names is not enough. Socialism (a.k.a. Communism-lite) is the most murderous school of thought known to humanity so far — even Hitler's peculiar brand of Fascism is but a distant second. So, yeah, to people who pay attention to semantics, "Socialism" is a dirty word.
Finally, we agree on something! Yes, the words have meanings and the very point of the starter of this thread was that SJWs have made these particular terms meaningless by applying them to everyone who disagrees with them.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Well, at least they're not "SWATting" people yet... BRB someone at door
Talking about hypothetical events has nothing to do with a "strawman" argument which is defined thus:
Except you are ascribing those hypothetical actions/arguments to a very real group of people, and then attacking the people based on those. Classic straw man.
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cut off the part I deemed irrelevant. My linking to the original post is enough to refute accusations of "lying"
You are a rotten liar. You claimed there was no harsh language and the but you deemed "irrelevant" was... all that harsh language. In other words you deemed irrelevant the bit that completely contradicted you.
Born and raised in the USSR, I have a much better idea of what Communism is, than 90% of Americans.
Then you've suffered a complete brain bypass. Sanders is not by any measure of anything "communist".
Khmm...
Crikey you're an idiot. I mean I really don't know how else to put it. You're equating Stalin and Chairman Mao to the current governments of quite a few European countries.
Yes, the words have meanings and the very point of the starter of this thread was that SJWs have made these particular terms meaningless by applying them to everyone who disagrees with them.
Oh I see, you got really angry about something you yet again made up. I think you should perhaps seek medication because you have a very tough job distinguishing fantasy from reality and you get very, very angry about those fantasies.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
Which argument have I attributed to any group of people?
I never made such a claim, nor used the word "harsh". If you insist on accusing others of "lying" over such things, you better be "squeeky fucking clean" yourself.
I pointed out the absence of any significant passion in CronoLog's response. His language was harsh, but nothing to raise fists about or to chain oneself to one's car. As someone would say, it was "low energy"...
He certainly is. To avoid duplication, if you wish to continue this topic, please, follow up to this other post of mine — and be sure to to answer the three questions I ask at the end in your reply. Thank you.
I didn't. Some AC did. I, actually, corrected him slightly.
Sorry, I'm not going to argue the abuse of terms like "racist" with someone so deeply in denial as you. I consider your and others' disputing of Sanders being a Communist to be much more important this year but have limited bandwidth.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
...I thought they were called "reesearchers"??
I never made such a claim, nor used the word "harsh".
I never said you used the word harsh. I said you claimed there was no harsh language. You specifically said:
hatred and passion are missing.
empassioned hatred is harsh. You need to understand the difference bewtween descriptions (what I used) and quoting (what I didn't).
I can't be arsed to argue with you any more. Either you have such a poor grasp of English that it's clearly unproductive or you are intentionally misrepresenting as much as you can in order to "win".
At least you've stopped trying to pretend that socalism and stalinism are the same, at least in this thread. I'll take that as a win, for sure.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
The American College of Pediatricians
1. Human sexuality is an objective biological binary trait: “XY” and “XX” are genetic markers of health – not genetic markers of a disorder.
2. No one is born with a gender. Everyone is born with a biological sex. Gender (an awareness and sense of oneself as male or female) is a sociological and psychological concept; not an objective biological one.
3. A person’s belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking.
4. Puberty is not a disease and puberty-blocking hormones can be dangerous.
5. According to the DSM-V, as many as 98% of gender confused boys and 88% of gender confused girls eventually accept their biological sex after naturally passing through puberty.
6. Children who use puberty blockers to impersonate the opposite sex will require cross-sex hormones in late adolescence. Cross-sex hormones (testosterone and estrogen) are associated with dangerous health risks including but not limited to high blood pressure, blood clots, stroke and cancer.
7. Rates of suicide are twenty times greater among adults who use cross-sex hormones and undergo sex reassignment surgery, even in Sweden which is among the most LGBQT – affirming countries.
8. Conditioning children into believing a lifetime of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex is normal and healthful is child abuse.
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
Seriously, what an asshole.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Weev is a fucking pussy
Sending a one-line Bash command to an open port isn't hacking.
Gonna spill the beans on the gamergate movement. /v/ users, and it is in part or started as at least as a hate movement, but not against women or anything similar, but against bad developers that use other tactics to push their shitty games on people instead of you know, quality.
It is a thing that started and is at least half composed by
If depression quest was let's say an awesome actraiser like game, they would regard Zoe Quinn as a heroine for "having to sleep with the fucking media to get a good game out" rather than "someone helping kill games".
And well, she talking to her "friends" to basically censor the whole thing off the entire internet didn't helped either, given that funny thing called the Streisand effect
But the rage from /v/ actually started WAY before gamergate. /v/ that "indie games will be even worse, because they will be a bunch politized of html files that nobody will criticize because the reviewers are all my friends and you're a mysoginistic biggot if you criticize", shit blew up.
It brewed during the whole last generation of consoles, where they watched as games being turned into basically movies with some shooting segments sold in tiny DLC pieces, with every single website giving those atrocities 11/10 (with a very few exceptions that got quickly kicked out of the media, just ask mr.Jeff Gerstmann).
And to add salt to the wound, those companies paid people to constantly go to the board and pretend to be users praising the game unrealistically, with fun pseudo memes like "now that the dust settled, can we all agree that "your childhood murdered and butchered 2: now even less gameplay" is the best game of the series?".
So when Ms.Quinn basically showed to
He might have Jewish heritage. (Although it's not clear that is even the case.) But that doesn't make him a Jew, as Judaism is a religion.
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It's already illegal to send spam faxes. That is essentially what he's done. If they want to charge him with something, they should start there, instead of typical unauthorized access to a network or some such bs.
You are forgetting intent.
If I'm Jewish enough for Hitler, I can join in. A silly boy made a prank who has nasty beliefs. Nothing new here, move along. Just don't give them guns.
The devices were put in free-game mode. Granted, maybe not every admin was aware of the fact (more like "not still employed") but that doesn't change the reality of the first point.
The devices were put in free-game mode, possibly with the awareness that Some Punk Kid might do something obnoxious, and thus ruin it for everyone by breaking the Have Nice Things implied-truce. A risk to acknowledge and accept because some of us are just fucking nice and do shit like that anyway, strange as that may seem to the modern American mind. I'm pretty sure lots "art experiments" go even further about exposed stuff..
THIS is the obligatory XKCD, which is to say weev did something permitted but is still a dick. It even reminds us that society has ways of reacting; laws from a nanny state are appropriate for crimes but not for correcting manner.
https://xkcd.com/1499/
Sending a print job to a printer port is not "hacking" except perhaps to an overzealous prosecutor with only a vague understanding of modern technology.
You believe caging a human being and raping them for the remainder of their life is a just punishment for this crime? Is this what Sanders supporters really think? One thing Mi's hypothetical scenario was right about was that you would say something irrational and idiotic.
If by pure chance he hits the right keys, he hits them in the wrong order.
Obligatory Grieg's Piano Concerto?
"Slashdot - News and Chat Sites Deviant". (Click "homepage" link above for details).
Born and raised in the USSR, I have a much better idea of what Communism is, than 90% of Americans.
really? because your posts tend to show the reverse.
again, your background is apparently irrelevant, because you still believe that socialized democracy = socialism = communism.
none of those things is the same.
you state they are.
ergo: you don't have a f'ing clue what communism is.
It would be kind of amusing to create a public printer that generates PDFs just to see what people might print. You'd have to have some basic protection to limit the number/size/amount of documents printed, and probably have it on some read-only system that couldn't get exploited.
But it might be entertaining to see what got printed.
The tragedy of this thing is that the dumb guy chose to bulk print offensive stupidity.
Much more enjoyable would have been a more calculated strategy to create some kind of apparent conspiracy by "accidentally" printing apparently real documents, and carefully distributing the "pieces" like some kind of puzzle, distributing them across the country (or even world) and/or altering the "message" to have it appear that your fake conspiracy had some geographic movement or flavor.
An obvious (and probably not believable one) would be messages tracking victims of a zombie outbreak.
You're right about that but there isn't much point trying to tell that to Ratzo, Serviscope or Amimojo. It would threaten their world view that all women are damsels that need saving.
I'm not sure if they play games at all or are just involved in different gaming circles but I could see the ground work for shit blowing up back when Mass Effect 3 was released with that shit ending. A lot of people were left pissed off by the response to their complaints, being talked down to and being called entitled. People who care have been unhappy with the state of gaming for a while and having "their" media attack them for their hobby was the final straw.
Defeat?
Yeah sure, that's why Totilo wrote a whole article about the ethical changes they were making at Kotaku about responsible disclosure and such. All the other sites followed suit. Totally wasn't because of Gamergate. Nope, just happened to be about that time by pure coincidence.
Or did you mean we didn't achieve what you claimed was our goal despite none of us having any interest in it. Well yeah of course we didn't do that. Didn't build a fkn skyscraper out of jelly either.
> Promoting racism "for the lulz" and doing it at a scale like Weev does is an interesting way to get one's entertainment, you have to admit.
It is also REALLY effective and REALLY easy. It has the bonus of getting notice. It has the bonus of having fans. It has a monetary bonus (sad but true). It has a brand bonus.
You're right, it is interesting. It's brilliant if you've got nothing better to call on. It's absolutely affective. From the outside looking in, it sure as hell is good quality lulz. It's probably too good. It's also too easy. However, if you're a lulz practitioner and someone gives you a microphone then what are you going to do? It's brilliant. It's too brilliant. You might even notice the too easy trend.
It's brilliant enough that it needs more lulz. Wanna know the best way to get lulz? Well, I can't tell you. It'd ruin the chance to go it. (Hi Weev! I know you're reading this.) He's already posted in this thread. It is a bit much. Lulz could be had at an even greater level. 'Tis tempting, tempting indeed.
He accessed MANY systems he did not have authorization to use, committing many crimes, federal ones.
We need to send a message to the next over-privileged nerd out there who thinks of doing a stunt like this or it keeps happening. Perhaps we'd have less of this shit if that spoiled brat Morris hadn't been coddled because his dad being NSA.
While I wouldn't want Weev actually raped, I want hard time for him.
He sent a print job to a bunch of printers, doing exactly what a printer driver would do, to a bunch of unsecured devices. Big deal. Stop glorifying this as some masterful hack simply because of scale.
Idiots will call anybody a "SJW" these days; that term has become meaningless.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
What a liar you are! I never mentioned "Stalinism" at all. My claims are:
Now that was a classic "straw man" — you misattributed a claim ("Stalinism") to me and claimed "victory" over it.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
The differences are merely quantitative. And even the "lite" versions are dangerously destructive, with Venezuela being the most recent proof.
A lie.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
no, what he said was a complaint about how that separation empowers obstructionist opponents who would stand in the schoolhouse door of progress trying to hold it back no matter how needful it is.
as usually, your ODS got in the way of your telling of it.
few more fun facts:
-Bernie isn't the one with brownshirts. Bernie isn't the one that formed a militia to protect his events:
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/0...
-No McCarthy wasn't right. No, they weren't going to overthrow the elected government. McCarthy was a nut. And so are you.
wish only serves to prove that you still do not know what you are talking about.
OTOH, if your father is 1/1 white and your mother is 1/2 white and half black, you are still called black (Or African American)
I never figured that one out.
How about your Father is full blood Cherokee and your Mother is full blood Creek. So you the child are either 1/2 Cherokee or 1/2 Creek. You can't claim tribal rights but to one tribe. So now your are only 1/2 Native American. So neither of your parents signed up on the rolls so now your and Indian that isn't an Indian any more. Why? No BIA card. Can't be a real Indian without a BIA card. Without the card I guess you genes change and what are you? Your not black, white, Jew, or Asian. /dev/null I guess.
This is real about some friends of mine.
A friend of mine is 1/2 Cheyenne and 1/2 Pawnee he married a woman who is 1/2 Navajo and 1/2 Plebeo. The woman is registered on the Navajo rolls as 1/2 Navajo. When they have a child and the child is registered with the Navajo tribe she is 1/4 Navajo. Now if this child grows up and say marries a Cherokee her children will now be below the required 1/4 blood quantum required to be Navajo so now you have a full blood Indian that isn't an Indian. Yes it is Federal law that makes this so.
By Federal law three things are measured by blood quantum, dogs, horses, and Indians.
And you Hebrews thought you had it bad.
Native America
Fighting Terrorism Since 1492
you literally just stated that they are the same thing, before denying you ever said it.
your post history is also rife with similar equivocations of the terms.
yet you cant even get right the hierarchy as to which is a variant of which.
calling socialism a lite version of communism is like saying an automobile is a kind of car, when in fact it is the reverse that is true.
Socialism has a very clear and concise definition:
"an economic model in which the means of production is own socially, ie by the public or their agents in government".
Note that private property still exists.
Communism begins with that model, but then expands it to reduce the ownership of private property, while increasing the role of the citizen's obligation to the State as an abstract of the people.
Stalinism begins at communism, but becomes an overtly political model as well adding the government model of Totalitarianism, while simultaneously promoting extreme nationalism (which is probably where dingbats like you get it confused with Nazism).
Trump's father was a member.
Trump himself affirmatively repeats what they say, on twitter and facebook.
His sons go on their radio shows.
sounds like pretty good evidence to me.
Huh?
Is that why you post anonymously? So that I can not refer to your post history?
Exactly! Which is why I claim, the differences between Communism and Socialism are merely quantitative (as opposite to qualitative) — you may still own a toothbrush under Socialism, but not a restaurant. And if you are lucky to own a car, you can not use it to make money — because that turns it into "means of production".
That "expansion" you mentioned happens gradually but inevitably as Individuals gradually lose rights to the amorphous Collective represented by the more equal.
Irrelevant. Not going into fine points of variations (Stalinism vs. Leninism vs. Trotskyism vs. Maoism vs. whoeverism). Though their adherents would kill the others over these fine points, all of them are disastrous to any country, where attempted in earnest.
If you wish to continue this lovely discussion, please:
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
No I'm just astonished that despite being founded on a fabrication (there were no reviews) and a harassment campaign people still keep insisting GG are somehow the good guys.
No one said it was reviews, except the people too dense to take a look outside of their echo chamber. It was positive coverage, and it was, multiple times. And in that, there were other people. Can you find that actual harassment? I'll wait.
While simultaneously trying to bully Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn off the internet. Okey dokey then.
Really? Where is this bullying...oh right...now I remember: SJW101: "Criticism is harassment and bullying."
Yep!
You should try harder, just saying.
Ah right so her doing something after this all blew up justifies you starting it off by making up lies. Ethics, got it. Must have been a pre-emptive ethical freedom strike.
So what were the lies again? If you're banging someone, and you're writing about them, that's an ethical breach. Funny how even MSM reporters can figure that one out.
Ah right so her doing something after this all blew up justifies you starting it off by making up lies. Ethics, got it. Must have been a pre-emptive ethical freedom strike.
You mean trying to silence someone's review on their "game" because they didn't like the review? Well that isn't a lie. That she was sleeping around with multiple people who were writing about her? That wasn't a lie. That going by her own definition of rape(cheating on someone), she was committing rape. That also wasn't a lie. So what were the lies again?
Visiting those cesspools? No thanks! I've seen enough before.
Oh, so you enjoy your echo chamber and don't like being exposed to ideas that would throw your world into disarray, and counter that your view point is actually incorrect. Very good, stay in that echo chamber.
Yes, you can just run right up to the UN and they let you in. True story. I'm sure the UN didn't, you know, invite them. And I must say that you seem, in your own words, rather salty about that if I say so myself.
Do you actually know how hard it is to do a presentation at the UN without one of the following? Money, connections, and positions of power. Those people don't have that, people they know who were/are directly involved with them do have it though. So yes, running to the UN.
The irony, it burns.
Oh yes, the irony. That part where you'd rather enjoy your ideological hugbox because reality doesn't fit with your preconceived notions and what the media tells you.
Om, nomnomnom...
I'm not sure if they play games at all or are just involved in different gaming circles but I could see the ground work for shit blowing up back when Mass Effect 3 was released with that shit ending. A lot of people were left pissed off by the response to their complaints, being talked down to and being called entitled. People who care have been unhappy with the state of gaming for a while and having "their" media attack them for their hobby was the final straw.
It started way before the ME3 debacle. It hit a head with it though, the incestuous relationship between "game journalists" and the people they were writing about though, blew the top off it. People will only take shit so long, and like you said when those so called journalists decided to start attacking the people that make them money, that was it. It's going to go down in marketing history as one of the biggest clusterfucks in the 21st century and how to kill your brand in one easy step.
Om, nomnomnom...
That was some interesting information.
What a shitshow this is turning out to be.