I think the point of etiquette is that consideration of others is always important.:)
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But it's not like the license file itself doesn't explain in all this in easy-to-understand language, and refer you as to where to go for more information.
Kids these days -- they want it all handed to them on a plate. Bah.:)
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What is this, stating the fucking obvious week on Slashdot?
First 'use JPEG compression to reduce your bandwidth bills', now a bleedin' GPL primer.
Glad to see they're doing their bit to help the Blackout.
While we're at it, I was glad I never had to read 'Rosebud was his sled' re Citizen Kane, or 'it was her father, possessed by an evil spirit' for Twin Peaks.:/
Given that there's usually a 12-18 month period where televsion properties percolate around the world (maybe longer?); the polite thing to do would have been to flag that information in this story could possibly affect future enjoyment of this show.
Didn't we come up with an etiquette for all this back in the days of Usenet?:)
The X-Files is now niche-ish enough that I'd imagine any fan could avoid being spoiled if they wanted to -- I really don't hear about it all that much anymore.
Unless, of course, major 'news' sites post plot spoilers as the headline of a story.
Thankfully they havent done this with a TV show I really like... but there aren't really any of those running at the moment:)
You ever hear of something called the Earth? See, there are *many other countries* out there that doesn't get TV shows in the exact same *year* YOU do.
Usually, expert users use different applications than beginners and the designer/developer of an application can adjust to that.
That's a good point -- although sometimes people use applications for reasons other than personal choice, e.g. management fiat.
I prefer applications that are not opaque; where a good chunk of the application's capabilities are accessible via scripting languages. (I'm an old Amiga user, and the integration of ARexx into so many programs made the platform extremely powerful and easy to access on that level.)
In recent years AppleScript seems to have taken up that torch, but it's not as widespread as far as I've seen (disclaimer: I don't own a Mac but my girlfriend does:)
In this way the initial interface can be as simple or as complex as required (as long as it is still logically laid out and doesn't frighten away people not experienced with it), but a whole new interface is exposed for people to use in a different fashion (governed by the rules of API design).
But then my needs are very different to those of 99.9999% of other people, so maybe that just makes me a voice in the wilderness on UI design:)
Six of one, half-a-dozen of the other. No UI is perfect for all tasks and all people. (However, many of the multitude of Unix UIs are sub-par.)
People can get seriously religious about, e.g., focus behaviour, and there's no way that you'll succeed in pleasing everyone with only one type of focus behaviour -- but no way you can have one consistent UI experience unless you enforce one and only one.
And that's for a simple option -- difficulty is magnified when it gets to more complex stuff. UIs that are good for the beginning user may not be good for the power-user... and so on.
I'm glad I'm not a UI designer, so I can just sit here and shoot down everyone else's hard efforts.:) (No, not really, but it's a much easier job to criticse than to actually do...)
Singapore == single-party government that regularly sues local and overseas journalists for writing unfavourable articles about its totalitarian nature.
Gee, I wonder why Singapore gets lumped in with China. A benevolent dictator is still a dictator.
China isn't communist, though -- it's totalitarian state-run capitalism. Socialist, but not by Marx's definition.
What I object to isn't the economic system -- it's the lack of individual freedom and the oppression of those who choose to go against government fiat. The economic system of China is very much like the USA, only the government owns all the corporations instead of the corporations owning the government:) (OK, the market has been somewhat liberalized in the past few years but this is still mostly true.) Understandably it's amazingly corrupt...
It's still possible to speak your mind in the US without being run over by a tank... unless you're *really* on the fringes of society (e.g. Waco)
I guess that applies to only some versions of Windows, then:) But the point remains that he's rich enought that he may not have seen actual money for a decade or 15 years -- all of that stuff is 'handled' for him. That has to insulate you from the realities of life for a large majority of people... and he was from a pretty privilged background to begin with anyway, IIRC.
I know what you mean -- I buy most of my SF secondhand anyway, but even the authors I buy new (e.g. Rudy Rucker or Bruce Sterling) got their start in the 1970s or early 1980s. I enjoy reading authors like Kuttner, Bester and LeGuin more than most of the stuff published these days...
Companies can still use it, which is the same benefit everyone else would get out of it. I don't see a problem with that? There's no disparity of benefit...
Oh, you're saying they want to own it. Why should my tax dollars go towards gifts to large companies?
My first two sentences there could be misinterpreted -- I don't think Open or Free software are better or worse than each other, just different. And I'd urge people to respect the work that everyone puts into both types.
What I meant to say is that the rights of Free Software authors have been infringed if the code is closed, as they chose a path that would ensure that could not, and should not, happen. (Users, on the other hand, have not had their rights infringed, as they haven't paid anything for their 'rights' anyway, unles under separate license from the author(s) -- which is a different circumstance).
It's all about respecting the wishes of the authors of the code.
People writing Open Source don't mind if other people take it and close it -- that's why they choose to use those licenses.
People writing Free Software do mind -- that's why they choose the GPL and similar licenses.
If the Government is paying for the source to be written, why not have a referendum? (Of course, you'd have to ensure the question wasn't weighted to on side or the other, or the third, "the Government should spin off its own private companies to exploit the software it writes.")
The cost of Windows is trivial... for him. If he dropped that amount of money on the ground it wouldn't be worth his time to pick it up:/
Anyway, who's surprised that he's somewhat insulated from reality these days? Given his wealth & power, I'm surprised he hasn't changed and become all Hearst-like... (e.g. Citizen Kane).
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I think the point of etiquette is that consideration of others is always important.
But it's not like the license file itself doesn't explain in all this in easy-to-understand language, and refer you as to where to go for more information.
:)
Kids these days -- they want it all handed to them on a plate. Bah.
What is this, stating the fucking obvious week on Slashdot?
First 'use JPEG compression to reduce your bandwidth bills', now a bleedin' GPL primer.
Glad to see they're doing their bit to help the Blackout.
While we're at it, I was glad I never had to read 'Rosebud was his sled' re Citizen Kane, or 'it was her father, possessed by an evil spirit' for Twin Peaks. :/
:)
Given that there's usually a 12-18 month period where televsion properties percolate around the world (maybe longer?); the polite thing to do would have been to flag that information in this story could possibly affect future enjoyment of this show.
Didn't we come up with an etiquette for all this back in the days of Usenet?
The X-Files is now niche-ish enough that I'd imagine any fan could avoid being spoiled if they wanted to -- I really don't hear about it all that much anymore.
:)
Unless, of course, major 'news' sites post plot spoilers as the headline of a story.
Thankfully they havent done this with a TV show I really like... but there aren't really any of those running at the moment
You ever hear of something called the Earth? See, there are *many other countries* out there that doesn't get TV shows in the exact same *year* YOU do.
move out of your parent's basement
Sounds like you're channelling James T. Kirk (oops, William Shatner) there.
Usually, expert users use different applications than beginners and the designer/developer of an application can adjust to that.
:)
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That's a good point -- although sometimes people use applications for reasons other than personal choice, e.g. management fiat.
I prefer applications that are not opaque; where a good chunk of the application's capabilities are accessible via scripting languages. (I'm an old Amiga user, and the integration of ARexx into so many programs made the platform extremely powerful and easy to access on that level.)
In recent years AppleScript seems to have taken up that torch, but it's not as widespread as far as I've seen (disclaimer: I don't own a Mac but my girlfriend does
In this way the initial interface can be as simple or as complex as required (as long as it is still logically laid out and doesn't frighten away people not experienced with it), but a whole new interface is exposed for people to use in a different fashion (governed by the rules of API design).
But then my needs are very different to those of 99.9999% of other people, so maybe that just makes me a voice in the wilderness on UI design
Six of one, half-a-dozen of the other. No UI is perfect for all tasks and all people. (However, many of the multitude of Unix UIs are sub-par.)
:) (No, not really, but it's a much easier job to criticse than to actually do...)
People can get seriously religious about, e.g., focus behaviour, and there's no way that you'll succeed in pleasing everyone with only one type of focus behaviour -- but no way you can have one consistent UI experience unless you enforce one and only one.
And that's for a simple option -- difficulty is magnified when it gets to more complex stuff. UIs that are good for the beginning user may not be good for the power-user... and so on.
I'm glad I'm not a UI designer, so I can just sit here and shoot down everyone else's hard efforts.
Singapore == single-party government that regularly sues local and overseas journalists for writing unfavourable articles about its totalitarian nature.
Gee, I wonder why Singapore gets lumped in with China. A benevolent dictator is still a dictator.
It was VERY VERY long
Go and read Moby Dick or War and Peace and then come back to me and whine about that article some more.
Sheesh, kids these days.
China isn't communist, though -- it's totalitarian state-run capitalism. Socialist, but not by Marx's definition.
:) (OK, the market has been somewhat liberalized in the past few years but this is still mostly true.) Understandably it's amazingly corrupt...
What I object to isn't the economic system -- it's the lack of individual freedom and the oppression of those who choose to go against government fiat. The economic system of China is very much like the USA, only the government owns all the corporations instead of the corporations owning the government
It's still possible to speak your mind in the US without being run over by a tank... unless you're *really* on the fringes of society (e.g. Waco)
(Disclaimer: IANAA -- I am not an American.)
File it under 'research'. :)
Maybe the editors are doing their bit to encourage the 'Slashdot Blackout'? :)
I guess that applies to only some versions of Windows, then :) But the point remains that he's rich enought that he may not have seen actual money for a decade or 15 years -- all of that stuff is 'handled' for him. That has to insulate you from the realities of life for a large majority of people... and he was from a pretty privilged background to begin with anyway, IIRC.
hell her coninuing plots are better then any ST episode
<sarcasm>High praise indeed.</sarcasm>
I know what you mean -- I buy most of my SF secondhand anyway, but even the authors I buy new (e.g. Rudy Rucker or Bruce Sterling) got their start in the 1970s or early 1980s. I enjoy reading authors like Kuttner, Bester and LeGuin more than most of the stuff published these days...
:)
Only 28 and already I'm feeling old.
Companies can still use it, which is the same benefit everyone else would get out of it. I don't see a problem with that? There's no disparity of benefit...
Oh, you're saying they want to own it. Why should my tax dollars go towards gifts to large companies?
Yes, but in those times the amateur was likely to be independently wealthy, otherwise they'd be slaving in the fields with all the other workers.
Conditions are very different these days.
What if the original author is a professional romance writer? Slashdot would definitely be a different field of experience. :)
My first two sentences there could be misinterpreted -- I don't think Open or Free software are better or worse than each other, just different. And I'd urge people to respect the work that everyone puts into both types.
What I meant to say is that the rights of Free Software authors have been infringed if the code is closed, as they chose a path that would ensure that could not, and should not, happen. (Users, on the other hand, have not had their rights infringed, as they haven't paid anything for their 'rights' anyway, unles under separate license from the author(s) -- which is a different circumstance).
But not Open Source that MS can use, like BSD. :/
This is the difference between Open & Free.
It's all about respecting the wishes of the authors of the code.
People writing Open Source don't mind if other people take it and close it -- that's why they choose to use those licenses.
People writing Free Software do mind -- that's why they choose the GPL and similar licenses.
If the Government is paying for the source to be written, why not have a referendum? (Of course, you'd have to ensure the question wasn't weighted to on side or the other, or the third, "the Government should spin off its own private companies to exploit the software it writes.")
The cost of Windows is trivial... for him. If he dropped that amount of money on the ground it wouldn't be worth his time to pick it up :/
Anyway, who's surprised that he's somewhat insulated from reality these days? Given his wealth & power, I'm surprised he hasn't changed and become all Hearst-like... (e.g. Citizen Kane).
I did think of putting IS (Information Systems) but hey, if they lack taste at 18, where's that going to point them in the future? :)