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Games in the Workplace?

Anonymous Coward asks: "Back in the day it was not uncommon for games to contain 'Escape Buttons' and other commands to quickly exit a game. These games appealed to the Geek at Work as he could fill in his Friday afternoon and as soon as he heard his boss' shoes approaching, he could escape from the third dungeon and return to his spreadsheet. Yet games today are not allowing such activities to occur. Most games are requiring so much dedicated action that it is impossible to play a game and still switch back and forth without long delays. Where are the games for the worker?"

420 comments

  1. More like: Where's the Work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As much as I like playing games at work when there is nothing to do, I would be just happy having a job at this point. 4 months of unemployment are enough for me!

    Why was it I went to college again?

    1. Re:More like: Where's the Work? by Chicane-UK · · Score: 1, Funny

      Parties, chicks, and drugs... right buuuuuudy? :)

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    2. Re:More like: Where's the Work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Try a year, I'm working with the mexicans doing gardening work. And I have a CS degree from Georgia Tech! No shit!

    3. Re:More like: Where's the Work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      16 months out of work here. I was making 95k doing c/java work.

      Now i work at mcdonalds.

    4. Re:More like: Where's the Work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like you were extremely overpaid for programming work. Figures these companies went out of business!

    5. Re:More like: Where's the Work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why the hell was this post modded down!!?!?!

      its so true!!!

    6. Re:More like: Where's the Work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me too. Out of work since Dec!

    7. Re:More like: Where's the Work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      How is one supposed to take a pay cut if there are no jobs in said field. Granted, fast food could provide a check, but unimployment pays more and since it isn't running out anytime soon (thanks Congress and that guy in the White House (do they change the matresses when the president leaves?)).

      The problem is is that there aren't any jobs in the Admin field that don't receive 300-500 resumes. It's hard to compete with that, no matter what your credentials might be.

      I'd be willing to take half of what I was making before at this point. Heck, I'm even thinking about going to teach in the public schools.

    8. Re:More like: Where's the Work? by Ghettoceleb · · Score: 1

      Nice to have you on the team working with us!

      cheers!

    9. Re:More like: Where's the Work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm taking unemployment and loving it. Who cares if there aren't any jobs... as long as you can pay the bills (food, water, rent), fuck 'em

    10. Re:More like: Where's the Work? by Orphic_Egg · · Score: 1

      That's what I thought until the unemployment ran out.

    11. Re:More like: Where's the Work? by vegetablespork · · Score: 1

      You didn't cheat in the intro class, did you?

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    12. Re:More like: Where's the Work? by bomek · · Score: 1

      Maybe you should move somewhere else? I actually never had a problem getting a good job...

    13. Re:More like: Where's the Work? by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 4, Informative
      People don't like to be reminded that Supply and Demand giveth, Supply and Demand taketh away.

      I was just reading a history of the potato that made an interesting observation: how rare and new wages that allow one to get more than just food and a tiny bit extra really are. The debates during the 17th through 19th centuries in England and Ireland about the potato involved questions of morality: by introducing a subsistance crop that was cheaper to produce and had little market value, it drove down the price of labor to where the peasants had less market clout than before. The enclosure act already had reduced the food-gathering options of the peasantry.

      The realities of the situation were pretty complicated: there were landlords, reformers, Irish, and English on both sides of the potato debate; it ended up involving Malthus and Ricardo, for whom the potato had symbolic force (for Malthus, it represented the minimal human, the man of appetites who would, despite all enculturation, follow those appetites to the detriment of the common good; for Ricardo, it represented a breakdown of the market economy by being a foodstuff outside the market.) Actually, I don't know what this has to do with the post I'm replying to. I'm kind of delerious: I just got Virtua Fighter 4 and Pac-Man World 2, and haven't been sleeping much. But it was a very interesting article.

    14. Re:More like: Where's the Work? by dswan69 · · Score: 1

      Only a problem if what you did relied on that specific segment of the industry. Good C++ system programmers are in huge demand.

  2. who has time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Who the hell has time to play games at work? There aren't even enough hours to keep up with the work loads.

    1. Re:who has time? by AndrewCox · · Score: 1

      Mm - my guess would be people like me who don't have enough to do. I end up trying to make up new programs to write that might help me or the company out down the road.

      From my perspective, I wonder, "Who are these people that complain about working 60-70 hour weeks?"

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    2. Re:who has time? by fantastic · · Score: 1

      Look around your team, if you think you are working hard, chances are someone else isn't.

    3. Re:who has time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I were to take 5 minutes to play a game at work, I would fall another 2 weeks behind because the company I work for refuses to hire more people. Also, if I didn't work 12-14 hours a day 6 days a week, you could make that 5 weeks behind.

    4. Re:who has time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a great book called Slack by Keywell that talks about why you can't just fire people until everyone is busy all the time and why employees need time to 'waste'. Its a really good book and worth the read.

      Tibbon

  3. At my work by Kasmiur · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Its a call center.

    They allow the night crew to occupy themselves with games. Often they go a hour or so without any calls so it gets dull.

    We have 15 people employed to work from 10pm to 6am and they take maybe 8 calls that last for 10 minutes each at most.

    What do they do??

    Well they each have several high level characters in diablo II. The work place took the stance that if it doesn't interfer and you can quickly jump back to your desktop to actually work they don't mind. Many games they have tried to see which ones work and some simply wont let you alt-tab out of it. Those games are not played and others are. Also the option to use the computer besides you is used if that computer is empty.

    I wish more work places would take this example.

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    1. Re:At my work by nomadic · · Score: 2

      Damn, that sounds good. Any job openings there? The last night IT job I had we had NT, so nothing really that good could be loaded...

    2. Re:At my work by Luminous · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Your company is wasting money.

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    3. Re:At my work by Kasmiur · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Since its a outsourceing call center the client pays the company X amount of dollars to have X people answering calls. Since we do support for a cable system in Arizona often we get people calling in to order pay per view or when there is a problem in the area they will receive 50 calls at once. When its middle of night and your tv goes out you don't want to wait more than 5 minutes to get help or a answer

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    4. Re:At my work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess playing Diablo II at work means dying ALOT ;-)

    5. Re:At my work by Luminous · · Score: 2

      You mean its the middle of the night and I want to watch the 'Salty Wench' on ppv.

      The money that is being wasted is in the hardware sitting on the desk. They have systems that allow Diablo II to be played and the software needed to do business at the same time. It's your company's call, I just know if I was in charge, I'd be making different decisions.

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    6. Re:At my work by bonzoesc · · Score: 1
      They have systems that allow Diablo II to be played and the software needed to do business at the same time.
      It's actually cheaper now to buy a bunch of fast computers than the 486-120s you want everybody to use because that's the only computer your parents keep in the basement for you.
    7. Re:At my work by Usquebaugh · · Score: 1

      Well you're not in charge, thank god. But if I need a PHB I know who to call :-)

    8. Re:At my work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't screw it up for those who have lucrative jobs. Because if you do, what will I have to look forward to, actual work? I haven't done any in the last four years (high school), and while I intend to work hard in college, I'm going to need a 5 year break of doing 80 minutes of work in 8 hours.

    9. Re:At my work by Fat+Casper · · Score: 2
      As long as those decisions are in the purchasing and staffing areas, I'd make the same decisions you would. But as long as you have the staff sitting at the hardware not doing anything constructive...

      You can't have them vacuuming or dusting because they need to be at their desks, not to mention that they are professionals. Let them play, if the hardware can do it. If it can't, then let them read or something. Hell, board games wouldn't be out of line. As long as they answer their calls promptly, let them do whatever they need to to stay awake and alert.

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    10. Re:At my work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work night-shift in a NOC. Our network is(surprisingly) stable. In other words, 12 hour shifts with nothing going on... occassionally we have to reset a process on a couple of machines (takes about 30sec/machine).
      Some fairly imersive games get played... after all there's only so much Minesweeper one cna handle in a 12-hour shift, 4 days a week, every week, for the rest of your life...

    11. Re:At my work by vegetablespork · · Score: 2, Insightful
      With all due respect, perhaps if you don't want to work in a call center for the rest of your natural life, you might spend that time bettering yourself in some way rather than playing games.

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    12. Re:At my work by Sparr0 · · Score: 1

      at the last call center i worked at we were allowed to play games but NOT allowed to read books. so whats that other way to better myself?

    13. Re:At my work by vegetablespork · · Score: 1

      Well, that just about sucks. Of course, I guess those supervising the call centers aren't exactly brain trusts. But that does leave O'Reilly Safari, or Usenet (I know, I know), or other technical reading.

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    14. Re:At my work by fraxinus · · Score: 1

      Well,

      I worked at phone support for a local ISP. There was one summer where it was very slow (it went very up&down in intensity) -- it was all good weather, and no-one bothered to troubleshoot their Internet in the evenings.

      A lot of the other guys there played Starcraft. It is not that I'm not interested in games -- I'm just a little weary of getting sucked into a big time-waster... I know myself, and I was caught by Starcraft later...

      Anyways -- I spent that free time waiting learning things instead. I tried to learn both Emacs and vi at that time. I actually started with Emacs, but gave up quite soon, and threw myself over vi instead. And boy, am I grateful for that now!

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    15. Re:At my work by Shiny+Metal+S. · · Score: 3, Funny

      We have 15 people employed to work from 10pm to 6am and they take maybe 8 calls that last for 10 minutes each at most. What do they do?? Well they each have several high level characters in diablo II.

      Excuse me, do you maybe need a 16th employee? I haven't played Diablo II yet, but I learn very fast. I have a long experience in RTS's and FPS's, as well as with MMORPG's. I also know the older technology like Sierra and LucasArts early software very well, some people say I'm an expert in that field. I am very laborious, I can play video games for 10 hours non-stop for very affordable prices. Learning new knowledge and skills is my hobby, when I was in primary school and in high school I learned how to play games all the time.

      I wish more work places would take this example.

      Yeah, tell me about it! Unfortunately most of my employers said that their companies need to be profitable or some other bullshit, greedy bastards! So anyway, where can I send my resume?

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    16. Re:At my work by NateTech · · Score: 1
      I'm thinking that the FAA should start this with air traffic controllers on late shifts, eh?

      United 238 Heavy, turn right... HEY! You sunk my BATTLESHIP!"

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    17. Re:At my work by pisdtal · · Score: 1

      Games? at WORK!?!?!?!?!?!?
      There wil be no smiling laughing or having a good time, anyone seen participating in any of the aforementioned activities will be shot on site. Now, GET BACK TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  4. Ah - the secret is to.. by 56ker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    have a Windows key on your keyboard - then you can just Windows+D to get back to the desktop quickly.

    1. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 1, Redundant

      Wow, all these years using Windows and I didn't know that. Thanks for the tip!

    2. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      that dosent always work, and in games it only works with about half of them, and usually there is a long delay, and it ends up crashing, or freezing in the game which would make the situation even worse

    3. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by JPriest · · Score: 2, Informative

      and Windows+M = Minimize all

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    4. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      " and Windows+M = Minimize all'

      That doesn't work

      Only the active app minimized.

    5. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by rueba · · Score: 1

      seems to work on my machine(windows XP).
      All open windows are minimized.
      Perhaps its a new "feature."

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    6. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know how well it works for games but I just tried it with every program installed on this computer, worked fine. To close all the apps you can just hold Ctrl, select them all with mouse, then right click and close group.

    7. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right-click on the taskbar, and select "Minimize All Windows"

    8. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      have a Windows key on your keyboard - then you can just Windows+D to get back to the desktop quickly.

      I tried this and it doesn't work. Maybe because I'm using KDE.

    9. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this works for many, but not all, games. A lot of directX games disable the windows key and won't let you alt-tab out. Very frustrating, there's no easy way to jump in and out of Jedi Knight II.

      But AOE 2 will alt-tab quite well, and is a better game for playing on and off through the day anyways...

    10. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by EboMike · · Score: 3, Informative

      [Windows + M]
      All open windows are minimized.
      Perhaps its a new "feature."


      Actually, this "new" feature has been in all Windows versions since 98, possibly even since 95. There's several more, like Windows + R (Run), Windows + E (Explorer), etc.

    11. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by Newtonian_p · · Score: 1
      Try Ctrl-Z, I found that some games instantaniously minimize when doing that, such as Loki games. Some games support Alt-Escape, like when playing something through WineX.

      And if none of those work, you could always enter Ctrl-Alt-F2 and say that X crahsed.

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    12. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by freeweed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Been there from Win95. It's how I managed to IRC all day at my former work :)

      Basically, you can have mIRC minimize to the system tray. AND you can change the icon it minimizes to. I just made up a blank grey square. Boss walks in, alt-space-m makes mIRC disappear - it's amazing how adept one gets at this :)

      Considering how full of crap the average system tray is, a bit of blank space in it never aroused suspicions :)

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    13. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by packeteer · · Score: 1

      actuallt on my mandrake 8.2 box the windos key works... so maybe because of my freind open source i will add some windows functionality

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    14. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by packeteer · · Score: 1

      hahaha thats funny... "X crashed" hahaha... like thats going to hap

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    15. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by Shynedog · · Score: 1


      If you're using decent machines with lots of memory, just set up a virutal computer with VMware. The virtual computer runs as a program in a separate window.

      Then you can Alt-Tab between the "computer" running the game, and whatever other real program you're using to handle support calls.

    16. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by trommaster · · Score: 1

      alt-tab sometimes works

      its fine for UT and GTA2

    17. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by seann · · Score: 1

      my easy way..
      ctrl + alt + del

      move to the bottom where the jedi knight tab is on the taskbar
      right click
      goto move
      use the arrow keys to move it out of the way..

      the display is still stichy..
      but you have do other things.
      :)

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    18. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by DahGhostfacedFiddlah · · Score: 1

      I don't suppose you have a handy link to a list (as opposed to the 2-minutes google search I'd otherwise do)

      These are all stuff I've needed for a while. Why doesn't MS document this stuff in an easy-to-find place?

    19. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by nlh · · Score: 2

      My god. This is actually be some of the most useful information I've gotten about Windows in a long time.

      Finally I've realized the friggin' Windows key has a function other than messing up lots of games when I accidently hit it instead of Alt.

      nlh

    20. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by anethema · · Score: 1

      Yes, windows key D works well, windows key+m works also, but with win+D you can press it again and everything comes back up. Very usefull IMO.

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    21. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by PurpleBob · · Score: 2

      You're assuming that games run under VMware. They don't. Sure, you hear about the occasional successes getting one game to run, but not the multitude of people who try to get a game to run, find that it doesn't run or is slow as ass, and give up.

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    22. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by schmink182 · · Score: 1

      Why doesn't MS document this stuff in an easy-to-find place?

      Microsoft doesn't like to work for the user unless it's by making froofy pictures so people feel more at ease. If they tell the average user what they're capable of, they might become smarter and turn Linux. But back on track some, alt+tab has got to be the most convenient thing about Windows, but I've never seen it advertised anywhere.

    23. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by Dahan · · Score: 2
      Why doesn't MS document this stuff in an easy-to-find place?

      Have you checked Windows' online help? At least in WinXP, the list is only three clicks away once you open Help: Click "Windows basics", "Windows keyboard shortcuts overview" under "See Also", then expand the "Natural keyboard shortcuts" item.

      I haven't checked the Win95 help in a long time (like since 1995 :), but I seem to remember the shortcuts being pretty easy to find there too.

    24. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by Loligo · · Score: 1

      >it ends up crashing, or freezing in the game
      >which would make the situation even worse

      So use the ultimate "escape from game" key - the reset button.

      If the boss asks why, just say your Windows box crashed AGAIN.

      C'mon, this is slashdot, aren't we supposed to agree that the boss will find nothing unusual about a Windows machine that crashes 40 or 50 times a day?

      -l

    25. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by GregWebb · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ahh, no, you've just used the system menu (the one which comes from the icon in the top left of the window) and you've also just moved not minimised :-)

      Alt-space-R - restores (unmaximises)
      Alt-space-M - moves (use the cursor keys or mouse, enter or click to confirm)
      Alt-space-S - sizes (cursor to grab edge, scroll in and out, enter to confirm)
      Alt-space-X - maximises
      Alt-space-C - closes. Yes, that's a destrictive shortcut next to another key, not bright...

      This is saying there's a bunch of other keyboard shortcuts triggered by the Windows key. Off the top of my head:

      Windows M - minimises all active windows.
      Windows D - shows the desktop. Toggles.
      Windows E - open windows explorer
      Windows F - open Find Files
      Windows R - open Run dialog
      Windows Pause Break - opens System Properties
      Windows F1 - opens Windows help.

      There's probably more, they're just the ones I know :-)

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    26. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by Dwonis · · Score: 2
      That didn't work:

      Broadcast message from root (pts/0) (Sun Apr 21 09:23:33 2002):

      The system is going DOWN for reboot NOW!

    27. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by Newtonian_p · · Score: 1

      Maybe user space software can't crash the kernel but badly written X-apps can certainely crash X.

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    28. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, X grabs full control of the keyboard and DGA software grab full control of that, so if the software you're using sucks (i.e. isn't SDL-based, where it's *freaking* easy to support full screen toggle), you're probably best off with a joystick and joyd...bind a combination of keys to shut down X or whatever if X crashes.

      Of course, if you're on a network you can just ssh in to your box...

    29. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by Shynedog · · Score: 1

      No, I'm not assuming it works. I know it works from personal experience, provided you're running a machine with enough memory to to delegate to the virtual machine.

      Any game that runs under Windows or Linux will run under the same platform through VMware. If you haven't used VMware successfully, it's probably because you haven't tried it on a machine with enough memory.

    30. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by PunchMonkey · · Score: 1

      And even better:

      Windows+Shift+M = Restore all windows (previous state of pressing Win+M).

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    31. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What games do you still use CTRL and ALT for? Generally, in action games, I have WASD mapped for movement, and the nearby keys QERTFGZXCV TAB and LSHIFT mapped to other actions. Lets me use one hand for all that, and the left hand on the mouse for precise aiming.

    32. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by nlh · · Score: 2

      Mostly I'm thinking about Empire Earth & Warcraft III, where Ctl+# and Alt+# are used to mark a group of units and call those units up. Your point, referring to FPSs, is quite valid though...I'm in the same boat as you.

      Kudos, btw, on the left-hand-on-the-mouse ... lefties unite!

      nlh

    33. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's nice to see I'm not the only person who's had to cope with a broken mouse :)

    34. Re:Ah - the secret is to.. by GregWebb · · Score: 2

      My computer doesn't have one ;-)

      Actually, I'm a trackpad user (reduced shoulder pains), I just find that I'm faster when I can focus my input on a single device rather than have to continually switch and reorient my inputs. Hence I learn keyboard shortcuts and instintively penalise any app which requires me to use keyboard and mouse simultaneously - well, except FPS games ;-)

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  5. Re:Ask Slashdot sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Holy shit. What is this? Wow! Why is it that Google is always coming out with cool new things, and I never hear about them from.. google? How many other cool Google things are there that I'm misssing out on?

    Wow.

  6. Also a couple of Work friendly games by Kasmiur · · Score: 3, Informative

    Emulators!!!
    Many of the NES and SNES emulators will run in windowed mode or will let you freeze the game and alt tab out of it.

    Also there are a few emulators with network enabled so you can play multiplayer with other people.

    Also Diablo II works good.
    Destruction Zone a old tank combat game from the old days of 94(still quite fun to play)

    feel free to add to the list.

    Also I imagine many people at work wont be useding win98. they are forced to use something along the lines of Windows NT or 2K based upon thier job.

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    1. Re:Also a couple of Work friendly games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scorched Earth Party!!

    2. Re:Also a couple of Work friendly games by Kasmiur · · Score: 2, Informative

      scorch2000.com
      What a fun website. Me and some friends spent many hours playing a networked version of the game.

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    3. Re:Also a couple of Work friendly games by RealityThreek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Heh. Forced to use Win2k over Win98.

      I've had better luck getting most games to run under Win2k than I did with any version of Windows before that.

      WinNT 4.0 and under were a different story though. ;)

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    4. Re:Also a couple of Work friendly games by blibbleblobble · · Score: 3, Funny

      Emulators? We don't need no damn emulators! Just get a job at a games company, and you can have a real SNES on your desk...

    5. Re:Also a couple of Work friendly games by freeweed · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't think there are too many game dev companies still producing software for the SNES... :)

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    6. Re:Also a couple of Work friendly games by kubrick · · Score: 1

      File it under 'research'. :)

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    7. Re:Also a couple of Work friendly games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BZflag, its sooo cool and the cpu overhead is very minimal and it runs on everything
      www.bzflag.org

    8. Re:Also a couple of Work friendly games by darc · · Score: 1

      Or, try Progress Quest, a d2 type clone, that can quit, and alt-tab in no time at all.

      www.progressquest.com

      No need to stop playing, since you don't need to do all the clicking, and fast paced decisions. In fact, it does it for you.

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  7. Fire some people by mgkimsal2 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Doesn't sound like a very good management system which hires 15 people to do the work of 3.

    1. Re:Fire some people by Kasmiur · · Score: 1

      Since its a call center the client pays the company X amount of dollars to have X people answering calls. Since we do support for a cable system in Arizona often we get people calling in to order pay per view or when there is a problem in the area they will receive 50 calls at once. When its middle of night and your tv goes out you don't want to wait more than 5 minutes to get help or a answer.

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    2. Re:Fire some people by MoneyT · · Score: 2

      Obviously you never worked end-user support for a certain well know big name company (who shall remain nameless). Most of the time, we had exactly enough work for 3 people. But there was at least 1 if not 2 people for every floor in the building.

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    3. Re:Fire some people by colk99 · · Score: 1

      Of course If you work for ISPs their is usually at least 20 calls espaically ISPs with 33 million customers. Side note: You know theirs an system problem when the call queue light goes from Off (0 calls) to red (>10 calls) in 1 second

    4. Re:Fire some people by $0+31337 · · Score: 0

      Maybe you should give your job to one of the poor people who posted before you complaining about not getting a job. You're apparently not very bright given the following errors in your post:

      espaically (especially)
      theirs (there's)
      theirs an system (there's a system)

      If everyone as stupid as you would simply give up their tech jobs to people that actually deserve them, I believe the tech industry would be in much better shape.

    5. Re:Fire some people by aeschenkarnos · · Score: 1

      Hey, I just noticed nothing's burning right now. Let's sack the fire department! Ash.

  8. Games on PDA! by romper · · Score: 1

    I play most of my games on my PDA. When the boss is coming, it goes in my pocket.

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    1. Re:Games on PDA! by motardo · · Score: 2

      I play Scorched Earth and Sim City on my palm, sometimes bejeweled! (but bejeweled! got old).

      -motardo

  9. Suggestion by athakur999 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Suggestion to all game writers. Allow your game to have a customizable title bar name. That way, when someone glances at your computer, they don't see "Minesweeper" in the task bar. Instead, they see "Q3 Earnings Report.xls".

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    1. Re:Suggestion by 56ker · · Score: 2

      It is possible to hide the task bar - just tick auto hide in properties (after right clicking with the mouse to bring up the menu). Then it only appears when you have the mouse over it.

    2. Re:Suggestion by (void*) · · Score: 5, Funny
      I can see it now ...


      Boss: Hey, Jeff, Let me use your computer for an email - I left my laptop back in HQ.


      Jeff the sys-admin: Ehhh ... (Quickly hits minimized) OK - here you go.


      Boss (sitting down): Sorry to stop your working.


      Jeff (smiling ironically): No problem.


      Boss: What is this - Quarterly Expense Reports. Why would a Sys-Admin like you have anything to do with Quarterly Expense Reports?


      Jeff: Errrr ...


      Boss: Come to think of it - I thought Accounting was still preparing them in confidentiality.


      Jeff: Errr ..

      .
      Boss: What's the meaning of this? You must that corporate spy from our rivals, MeAc Corp!


      Jeff: Nononono ...


      Boss: You're fired!

    3. Re:Suggestion by AntiNorm · · Score: 2

      Instead, they see "Q3 Earnings Report.xls".

      Quake 3 Earnings Report?

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    4. Re:Suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HAHAHAHAHA .... This is a really cool scenario

    5. Re:Suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, Quake 3 Earning reports... the boss'll love that.

  10. Play da frikin' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    minesweeper.

    (ah, another serious isue solved)

  11. Just for fun? by Andreas(R) · · Score: 1
    "These games appealed to the Geek at Work as he could fill in his Friday afternoon.."

    I wonder why so many IT-startups have gone bankrupt!

  12. eh? by labratuk · · Score: 1

    What's wrong with Alt-f2 ?

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    1. Re:eh? by yebb · · Score: 1

      Durring a game of Quake3, the sound still comes through the speakers, and if you have to hit Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get out of X, then you'll fire your weapon, and it will continue firing untill you return. It has made for some embarasing moments for me.

    2. Re:eh? by labratuk · · Score: 1

      I was joking. I was implying that the most advanced 'game' I ever use is /usr/games/fortune

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  13. Easy solution.... by siriusnova · · Score: 1

    This is what I do at work, tape a report or some other piece of paper at the top of your monitor. Flip it back when your playing that game of Quake during when your supposed to be working on tps reports. When your boss is about to pass by flip the paper so that the monitor is now covered. Oh, and always keep an open notebook with some papers scattered on the desk. He won't even notice. :)

    1. Re:Easy solution.... by justinstreufert · · Score: 1

      I don't know about you, but unless you're using cardboard or have your contrast set at 5%, the monitor will easily shine through the paper.

      Also, who the hell tapes paper to their monitor to look at it? I've heard of copy stands, but don't you think this would be just a little conspicuous? :P

      Justin

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  14. M-x zone by 10am-bedtime · · Score: 1
    says it all. thanks to victor zandy. thanks to other contributors.


    thi

  15. Re:Kikes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what on earth is a kike anyway? (sorry, no knowledge of this word until someone would care to enlighten me?)

  16. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Informative

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  17. Be honest, now by Da+Schmiz · · Score: 2
    If you're being paid to work, you ought to at least try to put on a semblance of working. If you legitimately have nothing to do, go ahead and play your game in the open.

    If you're trying to put off finishing the boring project that you've been staring at until your eyes glaze over, don't fire up a game. Do something intellectually stimulating.

    Like reading slashdot. :-)

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    1. Re:Be honest, now by kaas · · Score: 1

      This really is good advice. Playing a game always makes me either want to play the game more or go curse at some inanimate object, not be productive.

      Well, I've got that 15 page paper due friday, time for some Tony Hawk 2.

    2. Re:Be honest, now by AndrewCox · · Score: 1

      What about those of us that not only don't have anything to do, but aren't allowed to install software on our machines?

      I only have my PocketPC for games - though I still feel a little apprehensive about playing the NES/Gameboy emulators because it definitely looks like I'm playing games.

      I always feel like I could be doing something productive like going through a programming book or learning a new skill.

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  18. Linux has this built in. by Chandon+Seldon · · Score: 1

    When I was working a Unix Tech support job a couple months back, I was running Debian on my desktop at work. I ran two X servers:
    :0 on VT7 for games
    :1 on VT8 for work

    When I had to hide my game and get back to work, I just hit Ctrl+Alt+F8.

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    1. Re:Linux has this built in. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you can play nethack in console mode. Then it's Ctrl+Alt+F7 for work, Ctrl+Alt+F1 for play.

    2. Re:Linux has this built in. by Inti · · Score: 1
      But then the sound of your monitor resyncing when you switch to X could tip off the PHB!

      Wait. What am I saying?

    3. Re:Linux has this built in. by fuzza · · Score: 1

      Or you can use the "multiple desktops" feature of various window managers (Sawfish definitely, have also seen it on most Gnome or KDE setups).

      Just have your game open on one desktop, then click the button on the panel (or if mapped use Alt-F1, Alt-F2 or the like) to switch to your "work" desktop.

      This is faster on mine than switching VCs, and as someone else mentioned, the monitor's resyncing is to be considered.

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    4. Re:Linux has this built in. by Chandon+Seldon · · Score: 1

      If you're playing 3D game like Heavy Gear II or something, it could eat the keypress to switch workspaces - nothing seems to eat the keypress to switch virtual consoles.

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      -- The act of censorship is always worse than whatever is being censored. Always.
  19. Well.. by zapfie · · Score: 1, Redundant

    If I recall correctly, the games that come with Windows 2000, when minimized, appear to be open Excel documents. =)

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    1. Re:Well.. by pod · · Score: 1
      If I recall correctly, the games that come with Windows 2000, when minimized, appear to be open Excel documents. =)

      Hmm.... click, click, click, no they don't.

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    2. Re:Well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope.. That's not the case. I'm running Win2K Pro right now and I just started up 3d Pinball for Windows and FreeCell. Both are labeled accurately when minimized.

    3. Re:Well.. by zapfie · · Score: 1

      D'oh. I could have sworn something did.

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    4. Re:Well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Excel documents have an unusual tendancy to do that.

      Sorry, had to ;-).

    5. Re:Well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      As I recall, the games contained in the Windows 2000 betas would minimize with "Budget.xls" in the titlebar, but that "functionality" was removed for the retail version.

  20. from dictionary.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    kike Pronunciation Key (kk)
    n. Offensive Slang

    Used as a disparaging term for a Jew.

  21. any id game (or most games with an id engine) by Vess+V. · · Score: 1
    ~ quit

    does the trick

    1. Re:any id game (or most games with an id engine) by tom.allender · · Score: 1
      ~ q [tab] [enter]

      works for me

    2. Re:any id game (or most games with an id engine) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      /bind BACKSPACE quit

  22. PQ by dragonfly_blue · · Score: 4, Funny
    Well, as a matter of fact, I'm playing Progress Quest right now, and I'm at work. What's cool is I can keep playing if the boss walks by, but by switching to another task on my screen I can make it appear that I am actually working! Alas, it is Windows only, right now.

    The other cool part is if I forget to switch back to the game, my character just keeps pluggin' away, on some sort of strange magickal "autopilot", which liberates me from having to pay attention that often.

    Also, it's all online, and you can compete against up to 65,536 other players simultaneously. Can't beat that! Can you? Can you?!?

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    1. Re:PQ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Progress Quest is the best game EVER. Have you unlocked the special 3D mode yet?

      (I have, and it is k-fucking-rad.)

  23. please by thomas.galvin · · Score: 0, Troll

    Oh please.

    There is a reason it is called "work." If you are so bored with your job that you need to play games all the time, you are in the wrong line of work. If your boss is too uptight to realize that sometimes the brain needs to leave a problem lie for a while, and that there is nothing wrong with playing a game or surfing the web when you are just spinning your wheels, you are working for the wrong people.

  24. Work is for Work by Luminous · · Score: 1, Troll

    Okay, I'm not the most productive person at all times. I've been known to play a game or two of bedazzled at work, but come on, you are at work. You really want to play CivIII or TheSims? If you do, you aren't just stealing a little bit of time and performance from your company, you are guilty of severe underperformance. I don't care if you get all your work done and have 3 hours to kill. At my job, if a person has free time, then they have time to help someone else do menial tasks. There is always filing that needs to be done.

    Steal some time to play Solitaire or Tetris, some other simple game that can be played will checking voicemail or sitting in on a conference call.

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    1. Re:Work is for Work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      How is this "troll"? I HATE it when people who actually *work* at work have to pick up the slack (or sit around bored waiting) on lazy jerks who think that an comfortable office job with a good-sized company means they can screw around. Taking a break when you are zonked out on a project is one thing, but if you are so addicted to some computer game that you cannot even wait to get home to fire it up, get some serious help.

      Obviously this doesn't apply to tech support folks watching the phones at strange hours. But if your boss gets mad if you are playing games - there is probably a *reason* you shouldn't be playing them, or your boss is a total jerk, in which case - get another job, that is probably a symptom of a serious problem....

      Adam

    2. Re:Work is for Work by Random+Feature · · Score: 2

      Well Adam, let me tell you a little story...

      I was consulting a few years back and we had just finished a project. Now, the way it works when you're a consultant in demand is that if the company you're at lets you go, someone else snatches you up.

      So... they refused to let me go while they waited - for FOUR DAMN MONTHS - to start up the next project.

      I sat with nothing but a shitty ass NT machine and no rights to do anything but surf the web.

      I memorized PI to 101 significant digits. I studied for a Java certification. And in general I was bored shitless.

      If I could have played games, I would have. And since there was nothing and I do mean nothing for me to do but wait, I would have been glad if the company had decided to ditch me. I spent tons of time surfing and doing nada. I went days in between even seeing anyone. Ack!

      It depends on the company, as well. Some companies have a policy of "as long as you get your job done, we don't care where/how/what you do."

      Those are the best companies to work for because

      1. They have less attrition
      2. They can also reduce the increase in compensation. (lower percentages for raises) After all, who's going to leave such a great culture? That's where the savings come in.
      3. When it's time to bust ass, almost everyone does.

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  25. Ctrl-Alt-F7 / Ctrl-Alt-F8 by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 1

    One screen running the game, the other one runs your work... Switching is instant. (If i'm not wrong) Also there are always online webbased games like runescape, www.runescape.com which is a MMORPG running in your browser's window...

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  26. Dont forget about the video card by Kizzle · · Score: 1

    Gaming at work isnt much fun anyway since most work computers have crapy video cards. There is allways solitare though.

    1. Re:Dont forget about the video card by motardo · · Score: 2

      they're installing 32MB GeForce cards in the pc's here at the hospital i work at :)

  27. ALT-CTRL-DEL by EdCross · · Score: 1

    Wah bout useing the Alt-ctrl-delete command and
    end task on your game...works quick enough for me

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  28. Hide your game? by yebb · · Score: 1

    Hell, I usually have to tell my boss that I'm too busy to play Quake3. Its all about the relaxed workplace.

  29. MAME bay-bee!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh yeah, just play a little Q-Bert, a little Pac-Man, a little Donkey-Kong. And the arcade games were all designed to get rid of the players after a few minutes, so it's perfect for those unscheduled boss-breaks.

  30. Dope Wars! by VirexEye · · Score: 1

    Dope Wars is as addicting as dope and is easy to minimize...

    1. Re:Dope Wars! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dope isn't chemically addictive.

  31. One Word: Bejeweled by subhuman666 · · Score: 1

    Bejeweled is played during practically ALL of my classes with labs. Funny thing, the professors play it while we're taking tests.

    1. Re:One Word: Bejeweled by British · · Score: 2

      FUnny you should mention that. Our entire QA lab one day consisted of 99% of the QA staff playing Bejeweled during lunchtime.

      The popcap games are addictive, and wiht many of them on PDAs, you can do something during boring company meetings!

  32. Re:Ask Slashdot sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm pretty hyped about matchmaking.google.com, myself. If they can solve that problem, they've got it made. The sooner they open the beta to the general public, the better, as far as I'm concerned.

    (posting AC for obvious reasons)

  33. Why game at work anyway? by wilkinsm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If your employer is not enlightened enough that you have to hide your gaming from them, the you probably should not be doing it in the first place.

    I personally never game at work, but I do pursue other extra ciricular activities, like playing with the latest mozilla or kde builds, resurrecting old hardware (currently an 8mm tape library) and learning new programming languages.

    Besides, the machines at my work don't have good enough graphics cards to play anything interesting anyway.

    1. Re:Why game at work anyway? by J�r�me+Zago · · Score: 2, Informative
      Besides, the machines at my work don't have good enough graphics cards to play anything interesting anyway.

      There are some very interesting text games like Nethack and GnuGo. Both are free and run on several platforms. And without graphics you're less likely to get caught ;)

    2. Re:Why game at work anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I personally never game at work, but I do pursue other extra ciricular activities, like playing with the latest mozilla or kde builds, resurrecting old hardware (currently an 8mm tape library) and learning new programming languages.
      • You must get all the ladies with extra curriculars like that.
    3. Re:Why game at work anyway? by advid · · Score: 2, Informative

      What about Nethack? Low system requirements, but incredably playable.

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  34. Xpilot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Xpilot is a nice space war game (u can even play it on the net w/ other people). You get out of it fast. And it's fun and adictive

  35. The way we got around it... by sjehay · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At my school there is an absolute no-games-on-computers, ever policy in force; at the end of term though we all felt desperately in need of some BZFlag action. Being the Computer Society, we decided the way ahead was to set up a USB QuickCam connected to a Linux machine with motion detecting software (apt-get install...) aiming right at the bottom of the door; we then wrote a quick app to be executed when motion was detected which would send a specific broadcast packet on the network and a daemon to run on the client (also Linux) workstations which, on receiving the packet, would execute 'chvt 1' immediately. Having set all of this up (in about half an hour - frenzied coding!) and opened emacs/top/something-important-looking on virtual console 1, we all got down to playing BZFlag - and lo and behold, as soon as anybody walked in the door every single screen simultaneously switched to the text console and we all looked deeply studious... Worked like a charm :-)

    1. Re:The way we got around it... by BenTheDewpendent · · Score: 1

      thats really a beautiful thing. but many of us work in cubes and dont have the luxury of having an early warning system that wouldnt go off every 5 min because someone walking by the cube down from yours.

      but its still a beatuiful things.

    2. Re:The way we got around it... by signe · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The university I went to had a similar policy. No games on the lab computers. Of course, as you said, around finals, most of us needed a break, and at the time the game of choice was Doom (damn, I've been out of school for a while). The problem we had wasn't really with people walking in and catching us. We played in the lab in the freshman dorm, and noone ever checked on that lab unless there was a problem.

      Our problem was with storage of the game so that it could be accessed by the computers in the lab. I was making a hobby out of finding places on the network to hide the game where we actually had write privileges. We had a big Novell network running all the systems, and it was amazing how many places we had write privileges. We started, of course, with storing it on the local systems, but that didn't last long. So we started finding all the little nooks on the network where we could store something. Naming and renaming directories. Making hidden directories.

      Damn, I miss that time. Well, not really.

      -Todd

      --
      "The details of my life are quite inconsequential..."
    3. Re:The way we got around it... by rbeattie · · Score: 2


      BZFlag sounds cool, if I could only try it...

      What's the deal with this game. It crashes my Dell Lattitude PIII 650Mhz / ATI RAGE MOBILITY-M1 AGP2X /Win2k machine whenever I try to run it...

      I know that Win2k isn't the world's stablest freakin' OS, but it rarely LOCKS UP so hard that I need to unplug it and take the battery out to reboot...

      -Russ

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    4. Re:The way we got around it... by (void*) · · Score: 2

      And then some idiot decides to run the game on tty01 and everyone gets busted! Damn!

    5. Re:The way we got around it... by sjehay · · Score: 1

      Thanks very much :-)

      You're right, of course, it wouldn't really work in that environment. You'd have to have a person with a good view of potential boss entry routes push a big red button to switch everyone's terminals or something :-) Still, the unified everyone-switches-at-once is quite fun... (The daemon we wrote itself is quite entertaining, especially when you send commands like 'eject' to a room full of 30 machines...)

      People walking past was the difficulty - we had to spend a while fiddling with camera aim, focus etc. so people walking PAST the door (it's got a window thing in it) didn't trigger it :-)

    6. Re:The way we got around it... by sjehay · · Score: 1

      The game needs X, though, and on those machines X was always on 7 - 1 was just a plain, ordinary, bog-standard terminal. You'd have to go to a fair bit of effort to move X to 1 - and nobody (who had the root password) would want to/bother, so were were OK on that front. Far more worrying were the people who forgot to run the daemon before playing and so had to hurriedly do Ctrl+Alt+F1 on hearing the door open :-)

    7. Re:The way we got around it... by Vadim+Makarov · · Score: 1
      A more sensible policy is
      1. No sound
      2. As soon as somebody needs your PC for anything but gaming, you free it immediately.
      This works at my university (NTNU).
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    8. Re:The way we got around it... by sjehay · · Score: 1

      Mmm. We were playing this on our own dedicated Linux network which we have set up, but on the main school network (Win2k only, everywhere...) other people have great fun trying to hide things like Liero in places where they won't be found... The job is made easier by the fact that there's a 'public' share which everyone has read/write access to, so the current trick-of-the-day is make about 100 nested folders (sufficiently deep that nobody ever bothers clicking enough to get to the bottom!), putting file in there renamed to something.xls and pasting full path in a file (and renaming it back when they wanted to play)...

    9. Re:The way we got around it... by sjehay · · Score: 1

      We've tried persuading the Powers That Be of this one, but to no avail. Logic has no effect in this particular matter. "Oh no," they cry, "because if one person is playing a game, everybody else in the room will be tempted to and soon nobody will ever do any work!"

      Sigh...

    10. Re:The way we got around it... by Kwikymart · · Score: 1

      Hahaha, that sounds a lot like my elementary school. Back in grade 5 (yes, grade 5) we played doom in the computer lab at lunch. Some of the older kids would delete the game for some strange reason, then I would put it back on. I eventually made a hidden directory. The school administration finally caught wind of this and demanded that I take it off. After that, no more doom for anyone :(

      ;)

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    11. Re:The way we got around it... by sjehay · · Score: 1

      Hmm... Very odd... Never seen that before (and I've run it on two Dell laptops similar to yours...) You might want to try the support forum and see if anyone there can help you out...

    12. Re:The way we got around it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > BZFlag sounds cool, if I could only try it...

      BZFlag has some switches to change video modes, exclude accelerations and run it windowed on the desktop. Try one of these, looks like you've a video problem.

    13. Re:The way we got around it... by HeUnique · · Score: 2

      Hmm, any suggest for a good Linux motion detecting program?

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    14. Re:The way we got around it... by sjehay · · Score: 1

      Hmm... I think it was just called 'motion': http://motion.technolust.cx/ or apt-get install motion

    15. Re:The way we got around it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      • What's the deal with this game. It crashes my Dell Lattitude PIII 650Mhz / ATI RAGE MOBILITY-M1 AGP2X /Win2k machine whenever I try to run it...

      I think I know what the problem is.

    16. Re:The way we got around it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      As a former university admin who had to spend hours at a time hunting down hidden copies of pirated Warcraft II on our Windows machines, I learned to properly hate you guys.

      It drove me nuts to get a call that half the machines in the NT lab weren't working only to find they had run out of disk-space from the 50 different installs in C:\TEMP of Warcraft. I ended up have to write something that used Perl to MD5 checksum things to find files and flag them.

      And its not like we had a no games policy, since I had no issues with the massive Xpilot games that would take place, I just had an issue with pirated games and the lengths people would go to in screwing up a machine to get them to run.

      And also, because sometimes I'd get complaints from students trying to finish projects at the end of a quarter, only to find the entire lab occupied with people Warcrafting away. You may need a break from studying (although, I'd say probably getting the heck out of the University would have been a better break than sitting in same computer lab you spend 90% of the rest of your time in) but you don't need it at the expense of someone elses time. And despite all the calls of "oh, we'll get off the machine if someone really needs it" that never seemed to happen without someone having to call in a lab monitor who had to call me or my boss in.

    17. Re:The way we got around it... by signe · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Bah. I worked both sides of the fence. I worked in the computer center maintaining the labs for more than 3 years. It was never that bad. That's the nice part of having a few people who were "responsible" for installing the game and making sure it stayed there, and letting anyone else know where it was when they wanted it. We didn't end up with multiple copies of games on the system.

      Oh, and we never did have a problem with people wanting to do work and not having a computer. At least not that I knew of (and as I said, I was one of a few people "responsible" for the games). Mostly because use game players were polite and understood that the games always came second.

      It's interesting, though. For some reason, Bolo on the Macintosh side was more or less sanctioned. Not sure why.

      -Todd

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      "The details of my life are quite inconsequential..."
    18. Re:The way we got around it... by _jthm · · Score: 1

      don't take out the battery. hold the power button in for 6 seconds (give or take 3) and the ATX powered motherboard will do what it's supposed to do -- turn the system off.

    19. Re:The way we got around it... by The+Cat · · Score: 2

      Sounds quite ingenious. :)

      The sad part is that there is so much intelligence and know-how like this that is being wasted by risk-allergic, dull, no-imagination corporations that would rather have a second plate of sandwiches for the catered lunch meeting than invest in anything truly new or useful.

      Anything really cool will require a 50-page "business case." Which, if completed, will be thrown in the trash and the idea still rejected.

      It would be really nice if a job could be as rewarding as some of these spare-time (and brillian) projects we read about, but it seems jobs like that are so rare.

    20. Re:The way we got around it... by tezmc · · Score: 1

      Perhaps some sort of visual Biometric system would work for the cubefarm?

      Like the method implemented for CCTV cameras that works on measuring the triangulation between the eyes and...ummm... either the nose or mouth I think...

      That may be kinda overkill though :)

      ,Tez

    21. Re:The way we got around it... by sjehay · · Score: 1

      I don't see a problem with your policy at all. Of course people shouldn't be allowed to install pirated games on school computers (or indeed legal games, for that matter...) - but you at least sanctioned massive Xpilot games... Here, you can get done for playing chess(!) on a computer - but walking two classrooms down the corridor and playing it on a chessboard is legitimate. The main problem our school has is people playing Java/Flash games, or single-EXE freeware downloadables - not causing any technical problems (or problems to other students), just against the rules. Fine, if you break the rules, you get punished - but the rules are somewhat stupid. For example, I could understand a 'no games at all during school hours' rule - but why shouldn't people be allowed to play AFTER THE END OF TERM, for goodness' sake, or play Solitaire while waiting for a music concert/play rehearsal/whatever after school?

    22. Re:The way we got around it... by Jenova · · Score: 2, Funny

      well, that reminds me. Having to do my school project with a bunch of people screaming their lungs off playing Quake really got me cheesed off -- so I had my own games to play with them.

      Wrote a remote shutdown program that responded to ping and installed it in the labs with help from fellow classmates. The minute someone plays games, his PC would mysteriously shutdown.

      What great fun :)

    23. Re:The way we got around it... by dstone · · Score: 2

      soon nobody will ever do any work!

      Seems like this problem should work itself out then.

    24. Re:The way we got around it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha, incredibly cool. That wouldn't even be too hard to do. Great idea :).

    25. Re:The way we got around it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To quote SNL: "Nerd!!! Nerd Alert!!!!"

      Seriously, very cool...

    26. Re:The way we got around it... by lost_it · · Score: 1

      We had the same situation in my high school, so one of us found an interesting solution. If you opened a DOS window and typed:
      mkdir
      (hold down the ALT key and type 0255), it would make a directory that looked like it was just an underscore. In DOS shells, you could go into like any other directory. But in Windows Explorer, the directory would be listed but you couldn't do anything with it. You couldn't open it, delete it, or rename it.

      Since our computer lab teacher didn't know that much about computers, it kept everything safe. Of course, you had to open up a DOS window and run stuff from the shell, but that seemed like a small price to pay.

      Note: this worked on Windows 95, I haven't had a chance to check it on later versions of Windows.

    27. Re:The way we got around it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can say that it still works in windows98.

    28. Re:The way we got around it... by Stuart+Park · · Score: 1

      Back when I was at university (this was years ago,
      before the PC was released), there was a group of us who played multi-user text based games in the computer lab. We had managed to "obtain" some accounts using a sneaky little fake login program on terminals, and chewed up hours of time each day. We had to rely on one of us being a lookout, and the game had a command which if selected by any of us would pop up a randomly selected screen for everyone - a directory listing, fake command prompt, program listing, etc. The guy who wrote the game even chatted online at one point to one of the system administrators about the game. They finally caught up with us one day, although had no proof.. and grabbed the name from one guy, who proceeded to say his name was "Jim Hendricks" (with the rest of us trying hard not to laugh).

      I have no idea how I ever managed to pass all my subjects..

    29. Re:The way we got around it... by ttys00 · · Score: 1

      That was some excellent thinking with the broadcast packet. You probably learned more from that half hour than you did the whole semester at school :)

    30. Re:The way we got around it... by Indras · · Score: 2

      At my school we hid all our games in the start menu on the local computers. They got deleted from time to time, because they would restore from backup periodically, but I always saved my characters to floppy every night. We would make a hidden directory in c:\windows\profiles\%login%\start menu\programs\, so it wouldn't show up in the start menu, and if the extra space looked suspicious there, they would assume it was actually in the desktop\ folder.

      The game? Castle of the Winds by Epic Megagames. It was a great game to just sit down and play in windows, the entire game fit on a floppy, and it was easy to cheat if you knew how to use a hex editor. I miss those days (seriously). It's hard to find a good RPG now.

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    31. Re:The way we got around it... by Dwarfgoat · · Score: 1

      Reid? Is that you? Heheh...sorry about that! At least you never found all the (un)registered copies of Escape Velocity on the Mac side of the lab! (Travis's fault....I swear!)

      Go T.U.!!!!!

      --
      That? That was a pigeon.
    32. Re:The way we got around it... by CTachyon · · Score: 1
      Our problem was with storage of the game so that it could be accessed by the computers in the lab. I was making a hobby out of finding places on the network to hide the game where we actually had write privileges. We had a big Novell network running all the systems, and it was amazing how many places we had write privileges.

      Ah, Novell. Back in high school, all the PCs at our brand new "state of the art" school (the building was finished in 1994, and the PCs were 386DX/25's with 4MB RAM, IIRC, running MS-DOS, and were never upgraded once in 5 years -- don't let me get started on THAT rant) were sitting on a Novell network. Most of the network shares were read-only, but it seems that whenever the admin had trouble getting a new program running from the network, she would make its directory read-write.

      The Pascal and AP Comp Sci classes had TONS of fun with a globally writable TURBOPAS directory; it started with everyone running the sample Breakout game, continued with some hacked-up source code mods, and eventually led to a ton of Pascal-written games and toys, including my own chat client. At the time I didn't know that Ralf Brown's Interrupt List existed, and only knew the barest of INT $10 and INT $21 calls, so I wrote it using a shared file to represent each "room" which each client would attempt to open and exclusively lock once per second, display any changes, and close. Scaled like shit, I imagine, but it was great fun once about 10-20 people had discovered it and were online at a time. (My /WHO command that turned student ID's into names was quite a shock to some of its abusers. :-P)

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    33. Re:The way we got around it... by gibbo2 · · Score: 1

      When I was in high school, we spent the last two years doing nothing but playing Quake DM over the classroom LAN. Most of the time the teacher ignored it and kept rambling, in the hope that people would listen to him between respawns or something :)

      Other times he would get pissed and pull the BNC terminator off the last machine in a vain attempt to stop the game. Then he just tried deleting all the copies of Quake of the computers, so people would have to resort to loading it back on each week or so from floppy.

      That was defeated when I created a hidden 30mb partition with the Quake install files on it, so even after he had cleaned all the machines the server would be back up and everyone playing within 5 minutes of the lesson starting. That pissed him off the most cuz he had no idea how we were doing it ;)

      Anyway, a year or two after finishing high school I went back to drop off something, and stopped by the computer lab. I told him how we'd done it, and removed the partition for him- it was still there 2 years later!

  36. Heroes of Might and Magic IV... by MonkeyBot · · Score: 2

    ...is a brand new turn-based strategy game. It definitely allows for a quick alt-tab back to something that appears to be work. Unforutunately, you are sort of locked into turn-based strategy games when you are looking for something that allows a quick escape. For just about everything else, quick escapes put you at a serious disadvantage because losing track of where you are could spell death (or the equivalent in the game).

  37. Why not just... by Greyfox · · Score: 2

    Bugger off early on that Friday Afternoon? If your company has dial-in access, just claim you're going off to work from home. Or as we like to call it, "Work from Home." You have to say it with the quotes. What you neglect to mention is that you plan to stop at the pub on your way home and might dial in to check your E-Mail if there's anything particularly important that might be going on. The video cards they install on work machines tend to not be able to push the pixels fast enough for the really good games anyway.

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    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

  38. go with windowed games by jmiser · · Score: 1

    Go with games that play in a window, like some of the games from www.shockwave.com

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    If life's a beach, wheres my tan?
  39. How my bosses used to caught us by philipx · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well, first of all we had (have) quite a lax policy on games. Do your job and do whatever you like. However, most of the time games we're allowed after hours only.
    Here are three funny stories about getting caught playing.

    At this company I used to work for, the boss had a harsh policy on games and it started by refusing to buy accelerated cards. So much for Q3A... Well, however, we eventually elude him and tricked him into buying some. Six hours a day games were then not so uncommon, especially since we had a multiple floor building, the management on the last floor :). But the boss had an ace up the sleeve. He used to scan the network for Q3 servers with that tool from GameSpy that is otherwise used to "lawfully" find servers :). He said nothing, but at the end of that month penalties poured in :))

    Another funny story. We we're CTF-ing, all in the same room, a 4-4 game. I don't think a normal person could have resisted the shouts and yells that we're going on. On that particular day we thought our boss was out for the day, so we had an early start at around 4 pm. The truth was that he was out, but only to get out CEO from the airport. And most of us quickly exited the game when they entered our office when returning, except for this guy who keps on shouting : "Get the flag, get the f*ckin' flag!" with our boss and our CEO in the room. And when finally he saw we exited, he shouted, still not noticing the new commers, with his headphones still on his head: "Hey, whadda f*ck you exited now that I finally got the flag"... He turned blue two seconds later when he saw why we had exited.

    At my latest company UT was the game of the day. And since our CTO played with us most of the time, we quite often broke the "games after hours" rule and played even in the middle of the day. On one of this occasions, out CTO joined the game with the nick of another casual player (thus we didn't noticed him), took the Sniper rifle and shot of on the guys in the head. Then the message flashed on the screen : "You're busted!"...


    Well, however, I loved Q3 because you could do "bind ENTER quit" and it exited the game sooooo quickly. It saved me on more that a couple of boss-raides :)

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    __________
    Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace!
    1. Re:How my bosses used to caught us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i think you would have done better sneaking in a 1st grade teacher to teach you spelling instead of playing games.

    2. Re:How my bosses used to caught us by Shiny+Metal+S. · · Score: 2

      Well, however, I loved Q3 because you could do "bind ENTER quit" and it exited the game sooooo quickly. It saved me on more that a couple of boss-raides :)

      I remember a DOS program Game Wizard. It was used to stop the game any time and save the game memory, find the address where is your energy and increase it, etc. It had to be quite an intelligent program to stay as TSR and interrupt games in a single-tasking OS (games which were often normally running in their own protected mode, with CLI (interrupts turned off), etc. taking over the whole computer). It had an option called "boss" and you could set it up like this: first you took a screenshot of some program, then you set a password, and then when you hit some key combination anytime later to "boss the screen", the screenshot apeared instantly (it was done really good, in text mode even the cursor was blinking), and the computer was halted until you typed the password (nothing was happening while you were typing it, only when you finished you were back in the game). You couldn't work when the screen was "bossed" but you could always pretend that the system crashed. And what's the most important, you could continue the game where you left it. Great program, I wonder if it is still developed.

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      ~shiny
      WILL HACK FOR $$$

  40. Green Screen with Envy by echucker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From the number of nasty replies, I have to wonder how many ppl are at work as they reply to this, while I sit home on my PC with the NHL playoffs on the TV in the background. Simple fact is, everyone needs a little break now and then. Look how many people spend hours a day here on slashdot. Gaming or looking at slashdot- either way you're still not doing "work", so get off of your high horses already.

  41. You want a fun game you can get out of quickly? by DJ-Dodger · · Score: 0

    You're looking for Pocket Tanks.
    http://www.blitwise.com/

    Remember Scorched Earth? It just got better baby.

  42. Hegemony Space Game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I play Hegemony ( hegemony.skotos.net ) -- it is a web based strategic and diplomacy space game that just uses your browser. It works with both my Mozilla at home and with IE at work.

    The free games are 2 weeks long, pay game are more often quite a bit more complex and are 3 weeks long, but I've found the free games quite fun. Each game is you vs. 11 other players. It takes about half-hour to an hour or so to play each day, however, typically not all at one time. In fact, you'll find yourself checking in quite often to see how your fleets are doing. It can be quite addictive.

  43. I like ADOM by egad_man · · Score: 1

    ADOM is one of my favorites, it fits on a floppy disk and is free, takes a long time to beat, and is avalible on Linux/Windows and other OSs

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    Hmmm, I have 5 mod pts, its time to metamod, and on top of that I have to meta-metamod? When do I get to read slashdot?
  44. Where do you work... I need a job, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a dsl line and play at home, you are paid to work, but if you really feel a need to play games at work, work for a video game company. Atari had 3 arcades as well as numerous works in progress that you were encoraged to play. Perhaps with your skills you could get a job as a game tester.

  45. As a network administrator... by DocSnyder · · Score: 3, Insightful
    ...I don't see games improving security and stability on user workstations, especially on w1nd0z3 boxes. The worst things are multiplayer games which demand quite some bandwidth or even require alterations on the network infrastructure - yes, some people are smart enough... So if possible, please stay with rather non-intrusive games like Freecell or Pinball.

    For *n?x people, text mode MUDs are great games to play. They don't affect any security issues (they run on an external host), and if you really hear your boss coming in too late, it's just one out of a dozen xterms on your desktop, so switching to a different one won't be suspicious at all. ;-)

    1. Re:As a network administrator... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pufuckingleeze. Time to upgrade the 64k ISDN you whiner.

      Are you still using Kermit to transfer files, or have you upgraded to XModem? Impact on the network? What a fucking crock. It's puny bandwidth.

    2. Re:As a network administrator... by Siva · · Score: 2

      For *n?x people, text mode MUDs are great games to play.

      i was wondering if anyone else shared this idea. half of my work week is spent on an NT workstation, but i open an xterm from one of our unix boxes and login to my MUD from there (there are win32 MUD clients will all kinds of fancy features out there, but i like the old-school feel of ANSI telnet :). it only takes up about 1/4 of the screen, and it's easy to alt-tab something on top of it if someone walks my way. it's also usually easy to take extended breaks, although getting interrupted while fighting someone or something is somewhat annoying...

      of course, the ultimate source for finding a MUD you like is the MUD Connector. the site indexes over 1700 MUDs and features advanced searching and user reviews.

      --Siva

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  46. PS-XDoom by ulbador · · Score: 4, Funny

    My favorite game to play at work is always PS-Xdoom. If my boss happens to walk around the corner, all I need to do it shoot a RPG into the group of process monsters, and wh00p, my X session gets killed, and I'm at a terminal looking like I was actually doing something

  47. The Sims by mrm677 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Sims is a perfect game for the workplace. Why? Because you can enable your Sims to have some intelligence for themselves and the game proceeds while you answer that phone call or speak with the boss. Granted, this intelligence isn't very high, but you don't need to babysit them and the game doesn't require total concentration. Just queue up some actions for your Sims every 20 minutes or so, and you are good to go.

    A friend of mine at my former workplace was very good at this. He had a laptop running the Sims all day while he sat in his cubicle pretending to work. The laptop was hidden by a stack of engineering equipment. It was funny watching the boss stop at his cubicle to discuss things. He had no clue what was going on!

    1. Re:The Sims by idontneedanickname · · Score: 1

      i don't see why "the sims" is fun. yeah i played it for 15min then it got boring, even no that i see all those extra stuff and items coming out, still wouldn't be fun...(but i guess that's not what ur talkin about here)

  48. caught by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    caught, damnit

  49. Depends on the job and the boss by pvera · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Quick look back:

    Job #1: Satellite Communications Controller for the US Army Space Command. Lots of night shifts with nothing to do. Certain shift supervisors tolerated games as a way to keep people awake as long as the mission was not affected.

    Job #2: Civilian Satellite Communications Controller (the former American Mobile Satellite, now bankrupt as Motient).
    Again lots of shift work and hours upon hours of nothing to do. Lots of 3D shooters and Diablo. IT folks tolerated us as long as we did not screw up the PCs. Boss played stupid, he was only interested in people not getting in trouble.

    Job #3: Web Applications Developer, the employer shall remain nameless. Boss-approved 3D-shooter games at lunch almost every day as long as it did not impact a project deliverable. Full cooperation from the IT folks. We would rotate between Quake III, Half-Life and Kingpin. Some high execs were popular for their Age of Empires games at lunch. The day the Sega Dreamcast was released we had ours FEDEXed to the office and paid for by the company (only console, controllers and memory cards, they told us we could buy our own $#^& games).
    Workplace started eroding and then one day some guys got yelled at for playing Dreamcast at lunch. Eventually everybody left the company.

    Current job: Another web shop that shall remain nameless. No gaming whatsoever, the corporate mentality is BILL BILL BILL (if you have read Grisham's The Firm you know what I am talking about). People prefer to bail out of the office for Starbucks or good food instead of eating in front of the PC just to play Quake III or whatever.

    I personally tolerate one of my employees. He is a total slacker but he is a total genius on what he does, so if he wants to play a bit of Shockwave Pool at lunch then I could care less as long as he delivers on time.

    There is a project manager that likes to play Shockwave games whenever a customer puts her on hold, which is fine since the clock is ticking and the customer is paying to keep her on hold.

    I personally believe that with such high stress levels in my workplace an everywhere else, it is necessary to give employees some breathing room. Let them play a little bit. Let them take a walk around town and maybe grab a cappuccino on the way back upstairs. And don't count their lunch minutes. If the guys want to hit a restaurant once a week and spend over an hour there instead of the institutional 30 minutes (which is a retarded concept) then by God let them relax and eat something a bit tasty than a freaking burger.

    Also, if the employees are done working and they want to stay after hours for a Quake III shootout across the network, then I am not only going to look the other way but I am going to make sure the IT folks leave them alone too.

    Of course, notice that I keep saying it is OK as long as the deadlines are met. If we don't meet the deadlines we lose business and we all lose our jobs. Also, if you know a certain Project Manager is a total asshole, don't let him catch you!

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    Pedro
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    The Insomniac Coder
    1. Re:Depends on the job and the boss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You let people play on their lunchhour? The time they're supposed to be relaxing and eating lunch? And you think this is being generous? Gosh - next you'll be saying that once in a while, they can go home on time, but only if the projects you've left understaffed are still on target. ;)

  50. I am not a troll! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am constantly finding that i'm being moderated as 'troll'! Most of my comments are NOT INTENDED TO BE TROLL! But moderators have seem to of forgotten what a 'troll post' is!

    A 'troll' usually tries to get the first post in a article

    Trolls talk about discusting topics such as gay nerds and sex with animals such as goats!

    Trolls posts links to vile websites, the most well known one is http://www.goatse.cx. Sometimes they try and discuise it through another website such as AOL.com.

    Trolls post anti linux material, trying to prove how windows is superior. which often is moderated as 'flamebait'

    Trolls post useless information known as 'crapfloods'.

    I AM NOT A TROLL, STOP MODERATING ME AS A TROLL!

    If it happens again, you will be SORRY!

    Is this a troll? No I don't think so!

  51. Re:Tiny Windows games for workers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aiiirrgghhh!!! I've gone BLIND!!!!! My eye muscles didn't evolve to handle Space Invaders at 30x30 resolution!

    ...come to think of it, they didn't evolve to handle Space Invaders at ANY resolution.

    Either way, I'M STILL BLIND!!!

  52. Brings back memories... by UncleFluffy · · Score: 1

    Phone call from Boss: "How's things going ? What is your team working on now ?"

    Me: "I'm giving them some resource management training using the Warcraft 2 tool"

    Boss: "Ah, ok then"

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    What would Lemmy do?

    1. Re:Brings back memories... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to tell my friends mom (who didn't want games on her computer) that it was broke because it needed the new Hexen drivers. or Q2 drivers.. etc.

  53. Uplink! by Renraku · · Score: 2

    Uplink is a great workplace game. Its fun, adds stress to a stressless job, and is rewarding at the same time. Hell, even bosses would like that game.

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    Job? I don't have time to get a job! Who will sit around and bitch about being broke and unemployed then?
  54. Reintroduce the boss key by vjzuylen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As games are starting to require more memory all the time, you can't simply save & exit or minimize one without a significant amount of waiting and/or rattling from your hard disk. By the time the game has disappeared from view, your boss may already be onto you. And then there's the Windows taskbar, prominently displaying the game's minimized icon.

    Back in the days of DOS, most Sierra adventure games came equipped with a solution in the form of a 'boss key' - F5, if I remember correctly. Quickly pressing the key when you heard your boss approaching wouldn't exit or minimize the game - this is 640k DOS, after all - but it would bring up a mockup screenshot of a spreadsheet.

    Something similar could be used in modern games. It wouldn't actually exit the game, but it would very quickly display a fake workscreen without the telltale taskbar icon. It could even have a limited amount of interactivity or animation. If your boss asked you to punch up a different document, for instance, it could display a fake BSOD the moment you touched the Start button.

    Then, you could make a big scene out of it, claiming that this always happens because your computer has far too little memory and the video card has no 3D capabilities...

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    Hee-hee. Dying tickles!
    1. Re:Reintroduce the boss key by generic-man · · Score: 0

      Remember that since Office apps can be embedded in applications, your "boss key" could actually launch PowerPoint or Excel inside the game.

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    2. Re:Reintroduce the boss key by krs-one · · Score: 1

      Along those same lines, if you have ever been to www.monster.com, they have a page that you can bring up ASAP (if you have it open, of course) that looks like an official document to read so that if your boss catches you online at monster.com, you can quickly switch and look like you're working.

      -Vic

    3. Re:Reintroduce the boss key by LoonXTall · · Score: 2

      Four minutes later, you could have a spreadsheet embedded in the nearest zombie. How convenient!

      Software expands to fill the hardware market. Microsoft is good at that game...

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      ~~~LXT~~~
      Life is like a computer program: anything that can't happen, will.

    4. Re:Reintroduce the boss key by 0vi_king · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I remember playing a game on an old Mac... "chase the bouncing ball with a paddle" game where you had to destroy floating bricks up above. I think it was called "Brickles" or something.
      It had a command in the menu called "If the Boss Wanders by.." that you could call to bring up a very convicing looking spreadsheet.

      Great idea, I thought!

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      - Life is what keeps you occupied while you are waiting to die
    5. Re:Reintroduce the boss key by user32.ExitWindowsEx · · Score: 1

      Excel in Quake III.....
      Hmmm. Gives new meaning to the term "power cells."

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      "Evil will always triumph because good is dumb." -- Dark Helmet
    6. Re:Reintroduce the boss key by DuckFoundry · · Score: 1

      Sierra had a sense of humor too. I think in Leisure Suit Larry 2, if you hit the boss key it popped up a simulated word processor with a resignation letter in it.

  55. Terminal Games... by denzombie · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nethack is the best.
    No one at my call center knows what it is.Also if you stop playing, you don't get killed.

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    --- Evil robots don't kill people, Mad scientists kill people.
    1. Re:Terminal Games... by cyphgenic · · Score: 1

      Here's the link to Nethack:
      Nethack.org

      A great tool for switching between games and work on the Unix shell is screen. It comes installed since at least Redhat 6.2, but can also be downloaded and compiled from here

      You use 'ctrl-a a' to shift between screens, and can have as many screens as you want. Also, if a net connection goes dead between you and your host, or your machine crashes, type screen -r to return you to your vi, nethack or irc session without missing a beat.

  56. Anti "boss-key" by Openadvocate · · Score: 1

    Remeber the game with the anti "boss-key" that instead of the boss key, came up with a message saying something like "we think your boss should know you are playing games" and then played a very annoying sound on you speaker.
    I can't remeber which game it was(King's quest?) but I think it was sierra online. hmm

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    1. Re:Anti "boss-key" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Space Quest III, from Sierra, featured something like that. It brought up a series of messages, something like "oh, I get it. You don't want your boss to know you've been playing Space Quest III. In fact, you've been playing Space Quest III for 2 hours, 16 minutes. Well, being the good company men that we are, we can't help you cheat like that, sorry."

      Quite amusing. It didn't play a sound, though, so perhaps another game featured some even more diabolical gag.

  57. Just don't play by famazza · · Score: 2

    Don't play, even if your employer says that you can do so after your work-time. Employers always change their mind after seeing an employee playing computer games inside the company dependencies.

    I saw this happen with me, and with other friends of mine, so don't ever plan to play games inside the company dependencies. If possible avoid to tell anyone that you don't really trust that you like games, officially you hate computer games, and only your closest friends knows what you really like to do after leaving the company.

    Too drastic? After passing through the acusations I have passed, and after two of my supervisors blame me and lie about what they allowed and didn't allowed me to do during work all I can say is, don't trust your boss.

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    I know life isn't fair, but why can't it ever be un-fair in MY favor!?
  58. Two things by gmhowell · · Score: 5, Interesting

    First, it's called Solitaire.

    Second, don't you have a fucking job to do, you dirty hippy? I ain't paying you to frag the doofus in the next cubicle over.

    First it was checking mail at work. Then getting around the proxy server. Now it's this bullshit. Christ, grow up. You wonder why you get downsized? You wonder why your company's stock is in the toilet? It's because you are doing everything at work EXCEPT work.

    If the lazy SOB's who post around here spent half as much time working as they do bitching, complaining, playing games, posting here, etc. there never would have been a recession, pets.com might have survived, and Gnome and KDE would be fully compatible with packages completed for everything from Debian to Red Hat to *BSD.

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    1. Re:Two things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give it a fucking break u maggot. It's not the
      worker beez who fuck most companeez. it's doze
      CEOs and dere corporate assboyz.look at ENRON.
      u wanna bee an ass, dats ur perogative. BTW,
      pets.com was bound 2 fail. dere bizness model
      waz crap. stop bitching about de quality
      ov open source. yur a lamer. go get a life, if
      u stil can.

    2. Re:Two things by tutal · · Score: 1

      While the other reply I think was trying to make a point, I'll try to repute in a more civilized manner.

      1 - If you're going to condemn any kind of game whether it be Solitare or Quake it doesn't matter. Even talking to the person in the cubie next to you (unless work related) is taking you away from your work. So either condemn unrelated activities at work or not.

      2 - People cannot work for 8 hours straight. In fact many psychologists and scociologists suggest that the average time someone can be doing a task is roughly 15 minutes without intterruption. At that point the person usually will pull away and do something "unproductive" as checking their email, making a coffee/Mt. Dew run etc. And then on top of it every couple or so hours people will take an even longer break, ie smoking, playing games, talking.

      Now, looking at the alternative, playing a game for 10-20 minutes a couple times during the day may not be the worst thing for the employees, especially if it is in place of smoking for example, which is bad for their health (and everyone's health insurance) and if they interact with anyone, they will be forcing the smoke odor on others, which may irrate those with strong allergies.

      Finally, most of the people that work on Gnome and KDE do it for pure shits and giggles, ok and some pride. They have other jobs and then come home and work on their pet projects because they want to. Now if you are a *BSD user and are griping about the lack of compatibility of KDE and Gnome, then get off your ass and fix the problem yourself you "lazy SOB."

    3. Re:Two things by torndorff · · Score: 1

      You have to keep in mind all of these people arent sys/network admins, programmers, or anything to do with computers. I work at a drug discovery lab and the NMR and masspec machines take a while to run, let alone the 24 hour runs on the SGIs.

      Some people just have time to burn in their occupation, and its not their fault.

      Often I have to wait 45 minutes to parse an excessively large text [log] file and I'm restrained by ATA33 hard-disks and Celeron 300 processors. It's not that I'm wasting time, it's that I have to wait on due to hardware restrictions set by workstation standards, that sorta thing.

      Don't assume everyone is just trying to get out of work; maybe they're just trying to not let the boss know they have spare time (so he doesnt think poorly of the worker, etc. etc.).

    4. Re:Two things by dillon_rinker · · Score: 2

      It may not be your fault that you can't find anything else to do; I've worked in environments where you do what you're told and keep your mouth shut or else.

      That said, though, can't you find something productive to do with your 45 minutes of downtime?

    5. Re:Two things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can we get a troll rating on this? lol

    6. Re:Two things by waveclaw · · Score: 1
      Yeah. Right.

      Picture this: for years people (especially managment type with their MBAs) sat around playing games instead of running the business. Suddenly, these same people stop playing their games and try to run their businesses. What'd ya get? A lot of people who were better at playing solitare than balancing and Enron income sheet thwoing pie-in-the-sky ideas at investors.


      Wait two years: "Oh no! My isn't making a profit! Guess it doesn't matter that it had the 5-year Profit/Loss curve of the U.S. Military budget! Must've been those people gaming on my [investor's] time!" It's time to face the reality: the Internet boom and its bust was caused by a lot of people trying to build financial castles in the air. Long before this, and long after, people will be playing at work (if your lucky, playing is work.) It's not fair to build those castles in the sky and then blame the contractors when bricks start killing pedestrians bellow :-)


      It's a valid point to say that playing games on company time is taking away from the business. That's why some companies will allow it, but (oh my gosh!) dock you for that time. The fact that many games need company resources is a better argument (i.e. network bandwidth - although the space needed to run even a Kaza mp3 farm is less than that for the financial department's multi-meg .xls email attachment traffic.) Of course, with the purchasing policies where I've worked, to play any game not on an abandonware list I have to bring my own machine. I'm usually gonna steal as much juice with my souped-up PC as the guy next door with his personal microwave/coffee maker combo.


      It could be much worse: I worked for a College IT department that once had a 'let the students study when everything is cleaned/nobodies there' policy. Just becuase people have ignored their duties in the past and customer serivce has been hurt, the policy was revoked. Sad thing is, student IT workers were still ignoring the problem people and nothing improved. It's just got harder to work long hours and progress toward a degree at the same time (what, pay rent and make grades?) It's odd that the same College IT deparment was suppossed to use advancement in your degree as a measure of good employment. Too bad it was't progress in Diablo II character levels. Now that'd be an interesting conflict of interest (anybody from the game industry like to comment?) Well, at least it ain't surfin' for pr0n on company time.

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    7. Re:Two things by realdpk · · Score: 3, Funny

      "You wonder why your company's stock is in the toilet"

      That's it, I quit! Oh look, the stock is up 75 points!

      Yeah!

      "Gnome and KDE would be fully compatible with packages completed for everything from Debian to Red Hat to *BSD"

      I wonder how much of Gnome/KDE and other such packages were written at the workplace during breaks. ;)

    8. Re:Two things by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Depends on what you are doing. For programming, teh answer is often no. You write an app, you test it, big bug that breaks the whoel thing. Ok, fine, you fix the bug. Now you have to recompile, except that this is a huge app, and the recompile is going to take 30 minutes. You can't test anything else since this bug is a total showstopper and can't try anything till it's fixed. Guess what? You have 30 minutes to burn.

      Or take my job (Systems/Network admin), plenty of times where I just have to wait on something to finish. Like cutovers to faster connections (ie upgrading closets from 100mbit to gbit). It often goes something like this: I go to the BET and sit down near the switch that feeds the building. The other guy goes to the individual closets with the gear. He sets up what is necessary, calls me, and then we switch the fibres from one thing to the next. Now while he's walking around and getting things ready (this can take 15-20 minutes), I can't really do anything productive. It's not like I can leave, I need to be there to make the switch when he's ready. So I talk on the phone, or play games on an iPaq or something.

      There are times when you just have to wait on something to finish and you really can't do anything else productive while you wait.

    9. Re:Two things by nodrama · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Trying to ignore the fact that this is a total troll...

      The good thing about playing games at work is that it is obviously not work. Why is this good? The most dangerous people spend a lot of time at work not being productive, while they self delude themself into thinking they are making contribution. At least when someone is playing a game they cannot avoid knowing they are slacking off.

      As an employer I much prefer someone who gives me 7 hours solid work, and takes 1 hour for gaming. The shits I hate are the ones who "go slow" for 8 hours, giving me only 4 hours of value. Work hard, play hard, it's the intensity I want.

      The first time I "catch" someone gaming I tell them:
      a) don't hide it
      b) don't charge me for it (i.e. don't count it as time worked)
      c) never ever ever let it risk a deadline

      Of course if someone is slack when the heat is on than they are out the door. But I'm yet to have to do this.

      In my experience the guys who game are the same guys who can be relied on to work weekends and mega weeks when the pressure is highest. They appreciate a no bullshit rule environment, and respect the fact that when I ask for extra effort it really is important.

    10. Re:Two things by Dwonis · · Score: 2

      and Gnome and KDE would be fully compatible with packages completed for everything from Debian to Red Hat to *BSD.

      You assume Slashdot is full of skilled developers, which I highly doubt.

  59. what school is that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    by your programming skils i doubt youre at an elementary school. is this a university? just curious what university has such an oppressive doctrine. a military academy?

    1. Re:what school is that by sjehay · · Score: 1

      Private school, UK, ages 13-18.

      The IT policy is indeed fairly oppressive (as is the way its enforced) - but the Computer Society is the ray of hope here. We fought long and hard to establish it and its one of the few ways of actually learning anything about how computers work as opposed to how to use them as a means to an end. We've set up our own network of a couple of dozen machines of all types running every OS under the sun for people to take apart, fiddle with, code on, whatever; all run by pupils with minimal staff intervention. It's worked really well so far...

  60. Yahoo Games by LoudMusic · · Score: 2

    It seems the masses have flocked to Yahoo Games for worktime leisure. I've played many games of spades (at work or at home on my off days) with people who keep insisting that the play get a little quicker because they're at work and need to get back to productivity. I just laugh and tell them to get a job like mine where they pay me to do nothing (:

    ~LoudMusic

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    1. Re:Yahoo Games by slainfu · · Score: 0

      Yahoo! Games are the bain of my life. I just can't keep away from that damn Pool.... I need help. :\

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  61. play QUAKE at work! by theCURE · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is a new version of xquake that allows you to set a variable fastquit. a simple config like:

    fastquit 1
    bind F12 "quit"

    and you're golden. the screen goes back into windows very quick, and no trace of the game is left. It works, trust me :)

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  62. ctrl-alt-Fx by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just run multiple X sessions on my computers. First first four are text, the second four run gdm(kdm ruins fullscreen in mandrake) and the last 2 get status reports streamed to them by my server software. Now if only I had a true supercomputer. Maybe I could pretent to and get my site /.ed!!!

    p.s. My supercomputer, flame.dnsart.com, is offering free vnc and shell accounts to any |my website for more information.

    1. Re:ctrl-alt-Fx by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I meant to say k-rad eleet hacker dood who wants one, but it messed up the slashot post. Script kiddies are just as welcome.

  63. Re:Ask Slashdot sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  64. People who play together create together by rufusdufus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am a firm believer in playing games in the workplace. As a manager of software engineers, I want people working for me to really be into computers, to be the type that notice every little thing. I want them to be people who know how to have fun. I want them to be creative people.

    I also want them to be productive, and certainly would not let game playing get out of control. But I would much rather my reports not wince and hit the Boss key when I 'catch' them goofing off [heh, do you think you actually fool us with that quick alt-tab?]. As long as they are getting work done, why not let them blow off some steam? Maybe even have team building exercises where teams compete against each other.

  65. Re:Tiny Windows games for workers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sounds interesting, but I can't see any of the screenshots. When I click, nothing happens. Stupid Javascript, when will people learn?

  66. Dungoen Siege by Mrdzone · · Score: 1

    One of the newest games out is an RPG called dugeon siege. It is a cross between Bolders Gate and Diablo 2. The plus side is you can alt-tab out in about 3 seconds even on a mediocre processor (think 500 mhz Laptop. It has worked for me many times as i go to a prep school where we to "work" during study and this has saved my ass many times. Thought you would like to know.

  67. The perfect game for work: by VistaBoy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    NetHack. The levels are randomly generated, there are surprises at every corner, and most importantly of all, you can minimize it. Also, if your boss has poor eyesight, he may just see that it's a text console and actually say, "Keep up the good work." Don't try to play Q3 or UT at work, as they are impossible to keep hidden on the computer since they're 600+ megabytes each. Hovever, NetHack fits on very small media, including a floppy.

  68. Games for who? by prakashj79 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Where are the games for the worker?

    For the non-worker you mean...

    There is a thin line between laid back and laid off

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  69. Boss Keys.. by Chicane-UK · · Score: 1

    I can't remeber the exact game now.. perhaps it was F-15 Flight Simulator for MS-DOS.. used to have a boss key - when you pressed it, the game was paused and fake spreadsheet was fired up.

    Great idea I guess.. unless you work for a graphics design company or somthing.

    "We dont pay you to do maths.. now go and draw somthing."

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  70. Anonymous Ass by Moosifer · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Why hide? If you do your work, complete tasks/projects on time, and you aren't a freakin' parasite your boss will know it and not care if you kick-back every now and then. If he doesn't then he's out of touch with his people, and situations like that tend to correct themselves. (Unless the corruption goes straight to the top, then it's time to look for a new professional home). What do you have to hide? If, on the other hand, you are a worthless waste of company resources then just stay home and play games. Problem solved. I have no sympathy who people who spend most of their effort trying to beat the system.

  71. Nethack works perfectly for me... by ferkelparade · · Score: 1

    I always have at least half a dozen terminal windows scattered across my desktop, and so far, nobody noticed that one of them regularly contains a nethack session...plus, nethack is perfect for the office because you can always let the game sit in the background for a while, then switch back to ten minutes of dungeon exploring once your boss is gone :)

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  72. Use a KVM Switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you work in an IT departmetn aquire yourself another computer (now referred to as the drone) install all your needed apps on that. Take another machine (not on the network) and install whatever games you want on that. Most of the new KVMs (LInksys for sure) allow you to switch from one computer to another by pressing ctrl twice quickly. Instantly you are back on your drone, no minimized windows, etc.. This way you can even play MOH or Quake... in a real pinch you can reset the game computer and have a safe login ID with the games hidden.

  73. Atleast it's a perk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Come on, your company is wasting money? Then what about the fortune 500 companies with paid vacation? wasting money. Any kind of perk translates to wasting money, so your response is invalid, you invalid.

  74. Lights out... by u01000101 · · Score: 1

    Bye... see you in one week. The (Hopefully) Great Slashdot Blackout begins now (in this this timezone, that is).

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  75. newbie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you new to computers?

  76. True story by Weasel+Boy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Back in the day, we used to rename our binaries so that when we ran 'tf' (TinyFugue, a MUD client) or 'nethack' or 'slirp' (a user-mode PPP tunnel for dialup users), the sysadmin running 'top' would see 'emacs', 'gcc', and 'spice', etc.

  77. this is why the economy is so bad now by alphasmurf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I fully understand overstaffing call centers, so that peak time is handled well. This is good customer service, and on the surface it's not a bad idea, especially when the customer is paying for it anyway.

    Letting your staff waste their free time 7 hours (or whatever) a night of vid game playing is a corporate strategy that will eventually land your company out of business, and all of your happy nightshift guys out of jobs.

    One of four things will happen to you.
    1) your client will tighten their belt, and go with a strategy that only has the 3 people working, and deal with the reduced customer service level.
    2) your client will hire a smaller group of people to handle the business themselves, and bring it inhouse
    3) another company who staffs 15 people will make a bid to only charge your customer for 4 or 5 people, and your customer will leave.
    4) your customer that is stupid enough to pay you for bloat staff will go out of business

    How does #3 work ? By making your call center staff DO SOME WORK while not taking calls. If there literally isn't anything for them to do but sit around and wait, then you have bloat in other areas.

    Who is your customer ? The firm I work for is large and has our fingers into all sorts of stuff, I am sure we could service them better than you are ...

    `let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the smurf`

    1. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by cxgd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you want a good response time, then you have to have people sitting around ready to take calls. How many times have you been on the end of the phone for 90 minutes listening to 'we value your call' crap.

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    2. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by Phroggy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      2) your client will hire a smaller group of people to handle the business themselves, and bring it inhouse

      This assumes the client can figure out how to manage support themselves. If they knew how to do that the first time, they wouldn't be outsourcing.

      3) another company who staffs 15 people will make a bid to only charge your customer for 4 or 5 people, and your customer will leave.

      No, they'll make a bid to charge for 15 people cheaper. The client believes they need 15.

      4) your customer that is stupid enough to pay you for bloat staff will go out of business

      Overstaffing a callcenter is far from the dumbest thing they're probably doing. Companies that understaff are probably more likely to go under, as all their customers leave.

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    3. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually the best thing to do is to move the call center to India. There are plenty of people there who are intelligent, hard working, speak English well, and willing to work for well below US minimum wage.

    4. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by gad_zuki! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      4) your customer that is stupid enough to pay you for bloat staff will go out of business

      I know of one Chicago ISP that markets itself as being high-end. Not in a geek way, but in a customer service way. They're a little pricier, actually last I checked they were MSN/AOL priced for dial-ups and they have a call center just like the one described. Who would you rather give you 20 dollars a month to? 90-minute wait times to a stressed call center or to a place that gives its workers some leeway.

      Lastly, how much do you think night-time tech support workers make? Trust me, it ain't enough to bankrupt any company and your customers will be thankful they can get a human voice on the phone who knows more than what the "troubleshooter script" says at 4:30am.

    5. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by Mahonrimoriancumer · · Score: 2, Informative

      Companies that understaff are probably more likely to go under, as all their customers leave.


      Not only will their customers, but the employees that work there will also. I work in a call center and I am almost ready to quit my job because of that reason.

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    6. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bzzt! You need to have a minimum staff on hand at all times. You simply can't staff a call center with 1 or 2 people.

    7. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by macshit · · Score: 2

      Who would you rather give you 20 dollars a month to? 90-minute wait times to a stressed call center or to a place that gives its workers some leeway.

      I'll bet those workers are positively giddy with enthusiasm when they (instantly) answer a call ... `How may I help you dear customer -- dear lovely customer who makes it possible for me to get payed for playing games all night? What seems to be the problem? Would you like your feet licked? Blowjob?'

      [hmmm, maybe it's not such a good idea after all...]

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    8. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by macrom · · Score: 1

      your client will hire a smaller group of people to handle the business themselves, and bring it inhouse

      I highly doubt it. Phone switches are not cheap. Software to run and manage a call center is not cheap (I know, I write this stuff for living). The turn-over rate in the call center business is outrageous. It makes little sense for small to medium sized businesses to have their own centers unless they have serious time and money to invest. In the long run, it's better to outsource and let someone else manage the day-to-day headache of a call center.

    9. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by Matthew+Weigel · · Score: 2, Redundant
      I fully understand overstaffing call centers, so that peak time is handled well. This is good customer service, and on the surface it's not a bad idea, especially when the customer is paying for it anyway.
      Letting your staff waste their free time 7 hours (or whatever) a night of vid game playing is a corporate strategy that will eventually land your company out of business, and all of your happy nightshift guys out of jobs.

      Yeah yeah... this is why Apple went out of business a decade ago - they charged more for a better product, and since people never want anything but the lowest price product, nobody bought Macs in the previous dip in the economy.

      What's that you say? Apple is still in business, and is the only computer manufacturer that has so much demand they're having to increase prices!? Surely that's not possible...

      The one thing that bugs me more than all the libertarian geeks is the libertarian geek that doesn't understand economics. It might just happen that the time wasted waiting for an understaffed help center to get around to the customer is actually costing that customer more than the extra cost of helping to pay for an overstaffed help center. It might just happen a lot, actually... or at least enough that there will always be enough customers who are saving money by spending it intelligently.

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    10. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ummmm, saying that the call centre staff should be doing something else while not taking calls is a silly idea. What are they supposed to do? It's not like employees are magical robots that can do any task you tell them, they are trained to do something, that's what they know what to do. You can't tell a call centre tech to go do something like a router upgrade, they don't know how. When dealing with things like customer service you just have to accept that you need to have people that, at times, will sit around and do nothing. That's just part of the job. I'm sure 3am techs don't get much work in general but know what? I've called in at 3am when my net connection went down, and I expected (being that it's a bussiness line) that someone would be there to take that call and to resolve the issue.

      If you think cutting back on customer service is a good way to save money, think again. It's one of the reasons Qwest is going down in flames.

    11. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by heinzkeinz · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I was in pretty much exactly the same situation as the parent poster. You are making some assumptions about the functioning of the call centre. The place I worked -- a large, blue corporation-- offered 24/7 tech support. We dealt strictly with business customers. My shifts were from 9pm to 8am, and I would take 4-5 calls during that period, usually at the butt-ends of my days. Occasionally a call would come in in the middle of the night. What was the cost to the corporation? The salaries of 3-4 guys overnight. Don't you think that that measly sum is worth the ability to boast 24/7 coverage? Don't assume that staffing levels are as high as during peak periods. We had 60-80 guys on during business hours. It would be "bloat" to have that many on the night shift, I agree.

      It's entirely cost-effective for them to pay us to be there doing nothing. What else should we have been doing? Cleaning the floors? Dusting monitors? Coding new software?

      We played games; it was the sole benefit of working ungodly hours. I liked it.

      Letting your staff waste their free time 7 hours (or whatever) a night of vid game playing is a corporate strategy that will eventually land your company out of business, and all of your happy nightshift guys out of jobs.

      One of four things will happen to you.
      1) your client will tighten their belt, and go with a strategy that only has the 3 people working, and deal with the reduced customer service level.
      2) your client will hire a smaller group of people to handle the business themselves, and bring it inhouse
      3) another company who staffs 15 people will make a bid to only charge your customer for 4 or 5 people, and your customer will leave.
      4) your customer that is stupid enough to pay you for bloat staff will go out of business

    12. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thankful they can get a human voice on the phone who knows more than what the "troubleshooter script" says at 4:30am

      Becuase nothing is as mission critical as getting down the last 5 bytes of that Jenna Jamieson MPEG when you're really wired on caffeine after an all night LAN gaming session, and the only chance you've of going to sleep is to jerk off and blow your wad

    13. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by ez76 · · Score: 1
      Who is your customer ? The firm I work for is large and has our fingers into all sorts of stuff, I am sure we could service them better than you are ...
      Fingers into all sorts of stuff? Is that a fancy way of saying you have thumbs up your asses? For all your we-work-harder-than-thou rhetoric, you still have time to troll Slashdot with your self-hating I-wish-you'd-gotten-laid-off-too attitude.
    14. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The one thing that bugs me more than all the libertarian geeks is the libertarian geek that doesn't understand economics.

      "You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means."

      A libertarian is one who prefers minimal government oversight. Correct terms for one who erroniously frets over wasted corporate dollars would include "miser", "penny-pincher", or even "PHB", but certainly not "libertarian" which is a completely unrelated worldview to the issue being discussed.

      The one thing that bugs me more than /. geeks is the /. geek that doesn't understand the words he's using.

    15. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by Drakantus · · Score: 2

      You don't seem to get it. Maybe 99% of the time the late night call staff is being underutilized, but what happens when there is a real outage, and the calls start flooding in? Under your genius idea of reducing the workforce to 3 people, you get a lot of pissed off customers who switch services, which in the long run costs much more than having a couple $12/hour employees "not doing work". Oh, you do want to keep 15 employees, you just want them to do other work as well. What exactly are they going to do? If they were skilled at other tasks, they would probably be doing them, call center work isn't exactly fun.

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    16. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by Rinikusu · · Score: 1

      Nonononono..
      Wrong activities.

      In their spare time, you should have call center techs do something menial, like pick cotton out in the fields. With today's portable phone and wireless computing technologies, there's no reason why techs can't field and log calls between bushels.

      Sheesh.

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    17. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by consumer · · Score: 1

      It sounds like you may be forgetting that most employees have no stake in the companies they work for and thus no reason to give a damn about whether or not they succeed. Most people understand very well that their companies don't give a fuck about them, and act accordingly. That naive "company man" mentality died a long time ago.

    18. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by osgeek · · Score: 2

      What are they supposed to do?

      I ran a staff of about a half dozen ISP support engineers, and managed to find plenty for them to do while they weren't on a call. Having your support people just sit there and play games all day is a disservice to the company and to those people.

      I found that most support employees responded positively when encouraged to improve themselves through taking on more and more difficult tasks, as well as self-education.

      A good number of my employees may have started off as only being capable off answering the phone for simple support, but ended up getting much better paid engineering and IT jobs.

    19. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by osgeek · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What's that you say? Apple is still in business, and is the only computer manufacturer that has so much demand they're having to increase prices!? Surely that's not possible..

      Actually, Apple came fairly close to going out of business because of a severe lack of work ethic. I worked there in around 1992, and I found the place to be disgusting for anyone like myself who wanted to actually accomplish something. You could never find engineers at their desks, they worked 10, 4 & 2's (That's where you get to work at 10am, leave at 4am, and have a 2 hour lunch break in the middle).

      That lack of work ethic showed itself to the public in a string of poorly conceived ideas that were poorly implemented -- almost destroying the trust in Apple's fanatic user base.

      It wasn't until Jobs came back and started handing out pink slips left and right to all of the dead wood, that things started to change for the better.

      As an Apple insider, I find your analogy to be without merit, and actually almost making the opposite point of the one you were attempting to make.

    20. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by turbosk · · Score: 1

      dude you forget these are *nightshift* workers. they be a differnt breed of cat.
      "beside, yah caint be pixin cotton inna middah o' da naite- whachu tankin?"
      pax,
      fred

    21. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by Fastolfe · · Score: 2

      I look at it this way -- if a call center tech wants to use his "free" time playing games, he will never get a raise and he will never be promoted out of that position.

      If, on the other hand, he wants to spend his free time doing something else, like studying for a Cisco certification, doing some development or even just writing up technical documentation or building web pages, that tells me that's the direction he wants to go in and I will consider that when it comes time to do promotions or fill vacancies.

      Another approach to this whole problem is for companies to *not* simply hire call techs, but to hire people for other positions that require them to do handle calls for part of their time as well. That way you *do* have something for them to do: their "real" job. (And if they do their real job really well, maybe they don't need to answer the phones so much.)

    22. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to work nightshift for an ISP in the UK. When I started there there were two people on every night. We worked shifts of four days on two days off so there were basically 3 nightshift staff, of us three one was permanently pissed so he doesn't count..

      Anyhow, for the first few months all we did was support queries via the portal system and telephone. The managers and directors realised this and then started giving us work. By the end of a few months later we were handling testing and monitoring of servers and new asp applications, legal letters, accounts administration. Hell they even had us painting the place at one point. The only thing we ever received any form of training in was basic customer support.

      I so wish that there had been someone high up following the same thought patterns as you. I wouldn't have objected to being given work to fill the time, but some of the work should have been handled by people properly trained. IE the legal letters should have been handled by proper legal people and would you believe that the developers actually had a testing and monitoring department themselves? We wouldn't from the state of some of the stuff they gave us to beta test.

      Apparently since I've left testing has been passed back to that department completely. Is it any surprise that the last rollout of the website went tits up...oh well.

    23. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2

      You know, in a great many settings, espically large settings your approach would work like not at all. Sure, when a company is small it's perfectly feasable to have the normal staff take the phone support too. Things get lare, it isn't. I'll give you some examples from where I work (a large university).

      We have a switchboard, which is the main call centre for the university. If you don't know the direct dial number for who you want, you call them. There are about 8 of them there during the bussiness day, we don't staff it after hours. Now I've been down there to fix computer problems and know what? When they aren't taking calls, most are playing silly little shockwave games or solitare, or just surfing the net. That's fine, but it's not like we can put them to work on anything else. They can't leave their desks. Even if we could find cordless phones that could mimic the functionality of their consoles (large phones that can make the 7/RE do all sorts of neat things) they need their computers to get at the phone directory. Also, we can't give them much in the way of desk work either since you are literally getting interrupted by calls all the time, usually once a minute or more. Hard to give any real concentration to a difficult job in spurts like that.

      Or how about our customer service people? They do have other jobs than just answering the phones, they do all the related documentation and so on (for new line requests, trouble tickes and so on). So why not give it right to the staff that does the work? Simple, the customer service would suck if you did. We aren't at our desks all day, we are often out actually doing the things that these tickets call for, or attending meetings, or going to a conference, or what have you. You call us then, we can't help you. We'd have to tell the customer to try someone else or call back later because we aren't at our computer and so can't help them. And even when we are at our desks, we are often doing something that requires concentration. You don't want to be interrupted every couple minutes.

      Worker specilisation is a necessary thing for real efficency. Even though it leads to people sometimes having nothing to do it is more efficient than trying to have all people do and be all things, even if they are capable of that.

    24. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am working right now. I work at a call center. It is 2am. I havent gotten a call in over an hour. Look im surfing the net! There are 16 people around me and 1 is on a call. This shift has been here 5 years and this company is NOT going under! How about a timeframe of when these 4 things are suposed to happen, maybe i should start looking for another job??? LOL

    25. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by jess_wundring · · Score: 1
      >>The one thing that bugs me more than all the libertarian geeks is the libertarian geek that >>doesn't understand economics. It might just happen that the time wasted waiting for an >>understaffed help center to get around to the customer is actually costing that customer more >>than the extra cost of helping to pay for an overstaffed help center.

      Just what does this have to do with libertarians, other than you obviously do not consider yourself one?

    26. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by n9hmg · · Score: 1

      get to work at 10am, leave at 4am, and have a 2 hour lunch break

      Actually, a 16 hour shift would pretty much require a 2 hour lunch break at a minimum, though I'd rather do an hour lunch and 15 minute walk every two hours than work 8, lunch 2, work 8.
      Frankly, I'd think they would have been more productive with 4h work, 1h lunch, and 4h work, with onclock breaks as needed to maintain alertness.
      I don't put in a long sustained effort during work hours. Heck, I spend nearly 20 minutes a day on /., but I don't stop working when I leave the office. I make most of my most elegant breakthroughs in the shower, for instance. If I beat myself to death during office hours, I wouldn't be debugging my code in my head during idle moments - I'd be staying as far from all work-related stuff as I could, and we'd be where we were 9 months ago, instead of way out ahead.

    27. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by bofkentucky · · Score: 1

      you can with this, but it will set you back a few pesos.

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    28. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right on. Espeacially with the downturn more and more of those "company man" mentality people are getting an eye opener. I got that eye opener about a year ago. The company I currently work for (my first "corporate america" job) laid off a lot of hard working loyal people to save money. I came from a blue collar town where loyality to the company was a big part of the small town life. Needless to say I no longer have any loyality to any company anymore.

    29. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by osgeek · · Score: 2

      Umm, oops. Should be "leave at 4pm".

    30. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by slouie · · Score: 1

      This is bogus. You want to know why the tech economy sucks right now? Because rich VCs couldn't figure out that people would rather go out and buy a 50 pound bag of dog food instead of having it delivered even if it saved them a buck. Having a lot of little tech folks sitting around providing service and being collectively being paid about a quarter of what the CEO is making (his stock options not included) is not the problem. Having the CEO buying a personal jet as a "business expense" is the problem.

      Americans have been forcefed the idea of faster, harder, cheaper when smarter is a better idea.

      Is it better to have a client/customer waiting on the phone for 30 minutes because you've decided to cut your staff? What if it is a time-critical product? Do folks on the other side of the world deserve the same sort of response time/treatment as those in your timezone? What happens to your lowly paid staff who are on the phone now nearly full time? Can your find experienced people who can troubleshoot your problems that will do a graveyard shift on the cheap? How long will they stick around?

      Not that the aforenamed example is the best use of company resources, it could be used in a smarter fashion. But the question is it okay for folks to play games during business hours, especially if they are stuck in a spot where they are doing that, or nothing at all.

      Hell, yeah. If it keeps them up and the calls get answered and it doesn't interfere with work in general. I'd rather have folks playing games than surfing porn.

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    31. Re:this is why the economy is so bad now by Fastolfe · · Score: 1

      The original post was for a small (-ish) call center, which is what I targeted my reply to. (I consider 8 small.)

      I think it really depends on the nature of the organization here. A literal "call center" whose sole purpose is to take calls and send them elsewhere probably doesn't have a lot of technical focus where one might be encouraged to expand (if that makes sense). A lot of my experience goes back more to support centers and the like, so these guys more or less have to keep up with the latest stuff or they won't be able to do their job. There's more of an avenue for those types of people to grow outward than there is for a group that's simply there to answer phones.

      I do agree that larger organizations that have large call centers probably also have equally large groups doing other things, so a lot of what I said would be difficult to apply there. I should have made that clearer.

  78. but some games take forever to exit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    , even using that method

  79. Thanks for asking by Weasel+Boy · · Score: 1

    Yes, I'm at work right now, at 3:45 pm on a Saturday, and it's sunny and 75 degrees outside. No, I haven't gotten a hell of a lot done. :-P

  80. F1 Gold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great Free Strategy Formula One Game. One race takes a whole week!
    http://games.f1-live.com

  81. The soulution is... by BigMucho · · Score: 2, Informative

    I used to be an "alt-tab" slave myself, but its WAY to obvious... the boss materializes in your doorway and you fumble for the right keys, that's rookie ball... the pros know that mapping the depression of your mouse wheel to "alt-tab" is far more efficient and less conspicuous. Works great for the occasional pr0n fix as well :)

  82. BG and Hiding windows from prying eyes... by gabec · · Score: 5, Informative
    OK, I would feel insanely uncomfortable playing a game at work (well, during work hours and without the consent of the work community), but here's an option for those that don't...

    First, Baldur's Gate has a great option... in the Options tab you can set BG to run in a window instead of full-screen. This can kill the playability on older PCs but BG isn't an action game so it's still a viable option.

    Also many games support the (on windows) ALT+ENTER hotkey to switch between normal and full screen mode (like if you're watching a DVD or MPEG you can switch this way).

    But whatever your game of choice, if, unlike at Kasmiur's, your workplace does not allow games, you might want to look into an insanely useful program called "Watchcat." First of all, it's FREEWARE. The program, either by clicks or hotkeys, will hide any or all applications currently running... so if you're a Solitaire freak and you hear someone coming up, smack that hotkey and not only is the game off the desktop, it's off of the taskbar too. This program ROCKS.

    Here's a small article about the program on Tech TV

  83. Well, this may be a little skewed by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...But here at BioWare, we're always playing games. I don't just mean the games that we're working on, I mean that we're allowed to play games. We have a foosball league, and several of us are currently involved in an NHL '96 (yes, for the Genesis) tournament. Of course, when we're in crunch, we're discouraged from playing games too much, but even then it's generally accepted that the less stressed out we are, the better we work.

    If you're playing a couple games of solitaire at your desk, or maybe something from Popcap games (http://www.popcap.com), nobody should care. If you're trying to make it through Baldur's Gate II (or, coming soon, Neverwinter Nights! :D) at your desk, you should be questioning what value you're bringing to your job, or what satisfaction you could possibly derive from a job that leaves you so bored.

  84. Hidings Games by Trevelyan · · Score: 1

    Heres a trick i used back in my windows days at school.

    open a dos prompt
    c:
    cd \recycled
    md games

    now install your games to c:\recycled\games\blah, you cant browse to it you have to type the path into the install program. and thats the point their is no way windows is going to let you see any thing in the recycle bin thats not registered as deleted. Dont worry u can click empty recycle bin quite happily.

    to run your game open a dos prompt
    c:
    cd \recycled\games\blah
    start game.exe

    now no one will ever find it! erm well... bar /. readers =)

  85. Reading the key logger on Employee X's PC by CFBMoo1 · · Score: 1

    KP_8 KP_8 KP_8 KP_8 KP_8 CTRL CTRL CTRL KP_8 KP_8 KP_8 KP_8 KP_PLUS KP_9 CTRL KP_8 KP_8 KP_8 KP_8 ENTERYeah!!!EAT MY ROCKET LAUNCHER!!!ENTER KP_8 KP_8 KP_8 KP_8 KP_8

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  86. Re:Tiny Windows games for workers by jcsehak · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I could be wrong, but I've heard you can play a lot of games (even FPS ones) in the dock in OS X.

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  87. Old 'uns are the best 'uns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are loadsa little browser games, if you just look hard enough. I recently found a little gem, it's a JavaScript version of the old Atari Kaboom
    http://www.neilpearce.com/kaboom

  88. handhelds by LuxFX · · Score: 1

    this is why I keep my games on my iPaq. Most of the time when I don't have anything to do, I'll be playing solitare on my iPaq in the cradle next to my computer

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  89. Depends on the company by EboMike · · Score: 1

    Don't play, even if your employer says that you can do so after your work-time. Employers always change their mind after seeing an employee playing computer games inside the company dependencies... If possible avoid to tell anyone that you don't really trust that you like games.

    I think that depends on the employer. Well, I've been a game developer so a general interest in games was expected :)

    We often had after-hours networking game sessions ("evaluating competitor's products") which were obviously endorsed by the brass.

    I guess the more you get away from this business, the more truth lies in your posting (so if you're in some accounting company, you might want to stick to your suggestion). But if it's somewhere inbetween (application developers? Web designers?), it really depends.

  90. there's only one way to play games at work by glwtta · · Score: 2

    and that's on fridays, after work, and against most people you work with, including your boss.

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  91. play web based games by jbellis · · Score: 1

    my favorite is carnage blender but there's a lot more worth trying. topwebgames.com is one list; there's others.

  92. Companies I have worked for... by Junta · · Score: 2

    At a job I had a while back I would spend tons of time playing znibbles with cowowrkers. On the day before everyone got off for 4th of july, a bunch of people played half life on the 5th and 6th floors. Great please to have fun, but unfortunately the site was closed down at the onset of the dot-com bubble burst. Guess it made since, not only were people playing way too many games, but we would buy a couple of 60,000 dollar tape jukeboxes so we could be lazier, and sun enterprise servers to do work that coul dbe done much cheaply on other systems.

    I then killed a few months as a network admin for a industrail magnet research company. They primarily used office and autocad on their windows boxes, a cake walk of a job but they needed a relatively cheap administrator in case their server went down, so I killed quite a bit of time there with games. Of course, bein a cheap windows admin was only a holdover, so I quite and now work for a company where I don't ever play games. Get a lot more money, but still it is sad I don't get to cut back as much. of course the fun still comes in when servers go down. I think in the right context games can be very important in the geek work environment. Boost morale, build teams. It's worth sacrificing a little bit of productive time in order to reduce turnover and make people much more cooperative.

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    1. Re:Companies I have worked for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In my opinion it is good to waste your employer's money on software, hardware, and servers that your employer doesn't need. Why? Who do you thinks makes those devices. People just like you and I -- the typical Slashdot reader. Anyway, every dollar we can misdirect from our computer illiterate employers to our computer-literate comrades is a victory for us. Every time you waste your employer's money on a high end server they don't need you are contributing to the greater good of geekdom. It is every geeks duty to waste money when that waste contributes to the pocketbook/availability of jobs for other geeks.

    2. Re:Companies I have worked for... by Junta · · Score: 2

      Ah, I would have agreed, but when the company goes under because they spent too much money, then our jobs go away :)

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  93. Nethack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just tell them that it's some sort of graphical network admin tool.

    "Now there's Sharon, she's going to open a Word file..."

  94. Back in the old days of the Commodore Pet... by SIGFPE · · Score: 2

    ...you used to be able to get games on EPROM. To execure the game you just did a SYS ???? where ???? was the address of the code in the ROM. No need to boot a program off disk (which took an eternity those days). Nobody had any clue it was there as it was tucked away in an unobtrusive part of the memory. Nobody could accidentally stumble on it. I think it even returned your screen to its previous state as soon as it quit.

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  95. Unreal 2k3 to incorporate Ogg Vorbis, OpenOffice by thenerdgod · · Score: 1

    [Menlo Park, CA] Today, Epic Games, makers of the popular Unreal(tm) series of games, announced that its latest version, Unreal Tournament 2003, would include, in addition to open-source audio format Ogg Vorbis, the entire open-source office package, OpenOffice, build 632a. Lead developer Thomas Hunterson was quoted as saying "We decided to expand into the corporate market, where games are furtively played. We're hoping to open it up to a greater level of acceptance by introducing game modes like 'Capture the Profits' and 'Team Presentationwatch'. This is truly a new day for gaming"

  96. Re:Tiny Windows games for workers by limbostar · · Score: 2, Funny

    No kidding. A lot of that site is designed under the assumption that everyone has Javascript enabled.

    <noscript> motherfucker, do you speak it?

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  97. Pay cuts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would take anything right now -- literally, i.e., even less than minimum wage. It's better than making $0.

  98. wth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nethack!

  99. I am a mindless drone. by piecewise · · Score: 2

    Oh, but working where I work is more fun than any computer game could ever be! I get my entertainment from my positive work environment, grey Lexus, and cult-figure nerd/Chairman!

    My is Redmond beautiful today, too!

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  100. The secret. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Always keep your taskbar hidden and always Window + M when you hear a suspicious noise. It has never failed me.

  101. My favorite by KuNgFo0 · · Score: 0

    My favorite was the game 'Overkill' by Epic Megagames (back in the day). F10 or 11 or something would bring up a fake spreadsheet in the game. Halarious! Ah the days of the 'boss' key.

  102. Games in spreadsheets? by PhunkyOne · · Score: 1
    Doesn't anyone remember the flight sim easter egg that used to be in Microsoft Excel. :) For those who forget. This is from eeggs.com

    Flight Sim in Excel 97 and probably later

    1. On a blank worksheet press F5.

    2. In the "Go To" windows enter "r97c12:r97c24"

    3. Press enter.

    4. Press the TAB key.

    5. Hold down Control + Shift.

    6. Click the chart wizard tool-bar icon.

    7. Have fun and enjoy.

  103. stuff games by Prowl · · Score: 1

    slashdot needs an escape button.

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  104. games.yahoo.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the isp where I work, it is a lifesaver. They just got a bubble bobble derivative. Also, for late at night when the boss isn't around, multiplayer literati with everyone in the office involved. (Basically scrabble.) And you can just minimize when the boss comes by.

  105. One word: MAME by xelph · · Score: 1

    Plus it runs on a variety of platforms. Can't wait to make it run on OQO's ultra-PC (www.oqo.com).

  106. Perfect game for the workplace by Zen+Programmer · · Score: 1

    Progress Quest (www.progressquest.com) is the perfect game for the workplace. It's online, can appear as if it is work-oriented and important (when not in 3d mode), massively multiplayer, and, best of all, a free download!

    I've managed to spend time with my wife and 3 kids, work 8 hour days (plus 1 hour commute each way), work a part-time job, and still have enough time to play and maintain a level 50 character.

  107. 4 day work week by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Personally, I'm with Bill Mahr (sp?) of Politicaly Incorrect...people waste so much time at work, be it to gab with someone, play a game, check personal email, etc., a shorter work-week makes sense...

    I've seen others spout off about downsizing and productivity, blah blah blah and, "yeah right". If you can get up to piss, have some coffee, or chat with the secretary about the latest office gosip, you can play a game...they already tried the "using every second to do work" bit at the end of the last century/beginning of this one - know what they found? Instead of accounting for every second of everyone's day to increase productivity, just allow a coffee break or two - works wonders!

    Look it up - I thought this was common knowledge, but who knows...

  108. zsnes by M4d+D0nkie · · Score: 1

    this is solved with zsnes, the ALT-TAB shortcut, and any number of high quality 16 bit RPGs. Of course you should have the cartridge sitting in your desk if you get caught.

  109. The solution and the best game by lordaych · · Score: 1

    Download Boss! from Rohitab Software at Nonags. It runs in the background; specify your Boss! key and reveal key, be sure to turn off Window minimization animations, and set up as many Windows to hide in its INI file as you want (with only partial titlebar text necessary). When you hit the Boss! key, everything disappears instantly, gone from the taskbar, ready to resume.

    The best game? Click-O-Mania (a Samegame clone) is great; so is Kyodai Mah Jongg Solitaire. It's a complete block-puzzle game suite, including Mah Jongg solitaire, Samegame, Columns, among others. If you're not worried about elapsed time, you can play most of these games at your own leisure without needing to pause. Kyodai is the only shareware I've ever registered...

  110. This is a great game! by Hard_Code · · Score: 5, Funny


    <read slashdot>
    <read slashdot>
    <quickly switch to code editor with complicated source file loaded>
    <read slashdot>
    <read slashdot>
    <read slashdot>
    <quickly switch to terminal and enter a frenzy of mundane 'ls', 'grep' and 'vi' and 'find' commands.>
    <read slashdot>
    <read slashdot>
    <read slashdot>
    ...

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  111. my q3 bosskey! by kcf3r · · Score: 1

    /quit 'enter' enough fast to keep me out of trouble!!!

  112. In other news... by wadetemp · · Score: 2

    ... all the .COMs who could afford to hire programmers who sat around playing games all day at work have passed on. And you wonder why they don't make games like this anymore?

  113. MUD by Frank+of+Earth · · Score: 1

    If you are always ssh'd into a server somewhere, then one of your consoles can be connected to your MUD and nobody would even know. Well, unless they hear you cursing cause you just got blinded ;-)

    Good MUD -> isengard.nazgul.com 4040

  114. The reason is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The bosses of game companies must have noticed that their own employers (game developers) were playing other games instead of coding one.
    That's why they made it become more difficult to switch to the desktop.

  115. Use Command+Tab to switch apps. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's Ctrl+Tab on MS Windows, I think, and probably on x86 Linux as well. On a Mac, you can also go Command+H to instantly hide an application.

  116. heres an idea.. by Cenam · · Score: 0

    ..do your job you lazy piece of shit..your the reason communism dosn't work.

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  117. Geeky alternative to the boss key by dark-nl · · Score: 1

    Get a rear-view mirror for your monitor :-)

  118. Games and Seniority by falsemover · · Score: 1
    Hacking away at a single project can get really boring. Especially if it a "database" project or something of similar mind-numbingly dumb proportions. The urge to do something different, like play games wells up after about five hours of such banality.

    In the last six years I've had a more senior role including being the CTO of an organization. This has involved having many concurrent tasks, some coding related, administative work, documenting on the intranet, interviewing, etc. The advantage of this kind of work is that I can switch tasks when I get disinterested in the task de l'heure. My brain is occupied and the urge to play games disappears.

    Bottom line: if you want smart people to stop playing games; promote them, give them more responsibilities and more varied tasks. If they are not ready to for the promotion, put a "acceptable use" policy in place and live with the games and be happy that you have real people rather than robots.

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  119. Boss Key by Dwedit · · Score: 1

    They should make a boss key that runs Windows RG

  120. My system has a universal boss hide switch by Prothonotar · · Score: 1

    It's called "Ctrl-Alt-F7".

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  121. Super NES, or GBA? by yerricde · · Score: 1

    I don't think there are too many game dev companies still producing software for the SNES... :)

    Several game dev companies are producing software for a handheld system that is a Super NES yet isn't a Super NES. The Game Boy Advance is twice as powerful as the Super NES in almost every aspect of 2D graphics, and about as powerful as a Super NES plus Super FX or an Atari Jaguar for 3D. And it doesn't have that annoying SPC700 coprocessor.

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  122. games for the worker? by primus_sucks · · Score: 2, Funny

    Where are the games for the worker?

    Don't you mean games for lazy bastards:)

  123. Here's what i did... by ruiner13 · · Score: 1

    I had my computer at work rigged up pretty well at my last job. Counterstrike, combined with the crashing power of Windows NT, had a uniqe incompatibility with the Matrox video card drivers I was using, so that whenever I hit the escape key, I'd get the blue screen of death. So, i'd play, and when the PHB would come around, my computer would crash. I had him convinced he was bad luck. :)

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    today is spelling optional day.

  124. Two games most any computer can run... by teamhasnoi · · Score: 1

    Nethack of course, and GALTRADER! I have killed many an hour here, and it's great! This is the only Galtrader I know of on the net. It is constantly updated with new features, runs in terminal, and is multiplayer. I used to play this all the time back in VAX days, and was overjoyed to find this one! (So don't /. it ;)

  125. Use a KVM by fasteddie203 · · Score: 1

    Alt-tabbing and jumping to the desktop can take a few precious seconds...
    Switch a KVM (keyboard/video/mouse switchbox) - if you're in the IT dept you'll have no problem acquiring a second computer and the KVM - and you can then use the KVM's hotkeys to instantly switch back to the other machine - no directx glitches etc. Heck, if you get the Belkin SOHO model you can have your audio switch off with it too :)

  126. Re:Not at MY work by netringer · · Score: 1

    At my work you will be fired for playing games.

    They fired a very hard working IT operations director who I don't think ever got a straight four hours of sleep due to escalation pages.

    They also "walked out"a call center rep for playing games.

    Some companies value their ancient culture and have a zero tolerance policy. We were told to limit web surfing at work to 15 minutes a day.

    I'll play the games at home.

    --
    Ever dream you could fly? Get up from the Flight Sim. I Fly
  127. Foot pedal... by wizman · · Score: 1

    Me and my old boss used to have lunch all of the time and brainstorm cool useless ideas. One wasn't that bad.

    We had this idea for a footpedal that would fit between the monitor and the PC. When depressed, it would display a preset screencap. Everything would be built in, with some type of a button to set take a cap for use. Perfect for PC's that are locked down from installing software, drivers, etc.

    The downside is that the cap would be obviously non-interactive. If the boss actually comes into your cube and asks to take a peek at your project, you're pretty screwed. Maybe you could "Oh shit, I accidentally bumped the power button. Lemme reboot real quick!"

    Thought it would be a cool ThinkGeek product. Interested guys? :)

  128. Re: Unemployment runs out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's when you go on welfare!

  129. Three cheers for CANADA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hip Hip Socialism! (and strip joints).

  130. Games in the "golden" age of computing by moonbeam · · Score: 1

    I was an operator of a Cyber mainframes and at the console we had some really cool games. My favorate was the baseball game. The game had a "boss key", but on third shift, it wasn't needed. Ahhh.. those were the days.

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  131. Would you defend your cities with haystacks, sire? by llamaluvr · · Score: 1

    Civilization 2 is a fine game for those who want to play a real game during work, but don't want to get caught. It minimizes and maximizes quickly, sound isn't a necessary component, it's turn based, it runs on old and new windows machines with few issues, and most releases of it run without the CD (not sure about Civ2 GOLD multiplayer). I generally enjoy leaving it in the taskbar while I'm doing work, so I can periodically reposition my tanks and cruise missiles as I guide the Sioux towards world domination. Only problem is that my "just one more turn" mentality leads me to spend 3 hours engaged in important government activities for every 5 minutes of actual work!

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  132. Re:Tiny Windows games for workers by AndrewCox · · Score: 1

    What's wrong with javascript? If you're worried about all of the malicious javascript code, I recommend Proximitron

    After trying 5 different pop-up killers, this one was definitely the best for me. It handles tons of other annoying web-based shenanigans too.

    --
    The Red Pill ... all I'm o
  133. Quake III Arena by somethinghollow · · Score: 0

    bind \ quit

  134. In an effort by Jacer · · Score: 1

    ....to keep the it kids happy, the CIO let's us play quake over our lunch break, also when we work overtime on the weekend to cover production

    --
    --fetch daddy's blue fright wig, i must be handsome when i release my rage
  135. Re:Not at MY work by nlh · · Score: 2

    Your company sounds miserable -- do you like it? I'd never _ever_ tolerate working at or running an organization that has such a draconian attitude towards its workers. Firing people for playing games (unless they didn't do their jobs ever) is wrong.

    Likewise, web surfing is a tool -- not just a waste of time (though there are plenty of ways to waste time). If the company _really_ wants to prevent time wasting, they can install censorware that blocks the commonly-used time-wasters (match.com, lotsoftimewastinggames.com, etc.).

    Anyway, sorry...I just hate reading about companies that still think that the stick is a more valuable tool than positive motivation.

    --noah

  136. Laser Squad Nemesis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    www.lasersquadnemesis.com

    Email Turn based Stratagy game.

    1. Re:Laser Squad Nemesis by Jouni · · Score: 1

      Mod this up! Our whole damn office is hooked on Laser Squad Nemesis! :-)

      This game comes from the guys who created the original Laser Squad back in the 8bit days.

      Jouni

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      Jouni Mannonen | Game Designer, Consultant
  137. Works in theory, but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Constantly putting something in your pocket can also draw unwanted attention at the office

  138. Quake2 for us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I've been running a Q2 server at work on salvaged hardware for the last 18 months or so. It's known as our "Corporate Network Test Server" or "Stress Management System". It superseded ad-hoc games that people used to run off their own systems.

    Q2 isn't the latest and greatest but it runs well on our standard hardware and it's a lot of fun. It can be ALT-TABbed if necessary. The server even has an entry in our corporate DNS, an on-line stats page, map rotations and 3 game variants (deathmatch, rocket arena and capture the flag).

    We even had a one-year anniversary match where players who had left the company came back as special guest targets. We had about 30 players that day (with a peak of 24 concurrent).

    The server is tolerated by management because:

    • It's scheduled to start only after business hours
    • It has bandwidth caps so players can't flood the network.
    • Some of them have been known to play occasionally :-)
    Unfortunately, the server is mostly idle now. It was fun while it lasted (and it lasted much longer than I thought it would). People are now playing other things served of their local systems again.
  139. Don't play video games if you program for a job. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I interned at a very good company last summer. They were very relaxed about hours, games, lunch times and everything. There was a strong drive from everyone around to put in a large number of hours and projects were assigned such that you needed to work 9-10 hours a day to stay on top of things.

    I started playing CS and Yahoo! Chess in the middle of the internship, and my productivity sort of tanked. I'd just play 'one more game', or stay at work after business hours playing games. After a while I was sick of all things computer and really didn't devote myself much to my project.

    Fortunately, this enlightened company also had a Foosball table. I started playing Foos during lunch or when I needed some downtime after concentrating for long periods of time. Strangely, the wrist-flicking motions of foosball helped me to type faster, while the quick actions allowed me more focus when I returned to work.

    IMHO, separate work and play as much as possible, because you'll start to associate play with work (bad) and work with play (could get you fired).

  140. Uh Uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No way.

    1) Video cards today on work oriented PC's don't really make the grade for 3D games.

    2) People should not be racing to get work done just to play games... a good employee never has any 'free time', but that doesn't mean they have too much to do either. A good employee manages their time to look and keep busy while producing the work required. I have found that, at places that let me game when my work was done or during those slow times that my work suffered because I was eager to game and rushed to finish my work load. As a boss, I have seen it alot.

    3) IT folks are the worst!!! Watch your IT people the most as they are the ones that know how to hide it.

    4) Networkable games... I have worked places where if they found a networkable game, you were canned. I have worked places where any form of game (even web ones) were banned and a firing offense (and funnily enough, they left the base windows games like solitaire installed!). Network games induce additional network load and tempt people to do things to their network settings or the servers that they wouldn't do without out it.

    5) I LOVE to game... but you won't catch me doing anything other than web based games during lunch... it's not appropriate or a legitimate use of computers, IT resources, even power. Hell, I would rather send staff home early than let them slack off an hour or two with nothing to do...

  141. Uhhhh... we're allowed? by shpoffo · · Score: 1

    The company here doesn't discourage game playing. We have a company NHL league for XBox and Wolfenstien 3D as well. Pretty much whatever cool game comes along that the booss and everyone likes. I figured it was kind of an obscure practice, but geez - it seems no on else posting has anything like that.

    figure, employees are going to goof off and such anyway, everyone has to in order to prevent insanity from boring tasks. So if you give them an outlet for it, not only will they probalby take it, thye may even enjoy their job more and respect you [the boss] a bit more for respecting their mental well-being.

    imagine that

    -shpoffo

  142. Ah Come On!!! Alt+F4 will quit most games, also.. by Ruger · · Score: 1

    ...if you'll run Notepad or something in the background you can always Alt+TAB and put the game in the background. But Jeez, who has time to play games? I put in 9-10 hours days and still have to spend an hour ever night just catching up on freakin email.

    Ruger

  143. Games at work didn't used to suck, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you have time to play a game, go home and play. If you have time to play games a lot, lay-offs can't be too far around the corner...

    And watch any game that has network capabilities. Any good security admin is going to see the traffic and have a fit, probably running TCP dumps to see how badly you're playing...

    I just don't trust the software enough to think that Q3 might not be "Gatorized" before long. Anything written for work, is written as such for a reason.

    ---Trust No One---

  144. Try MUDing or online games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Play Chess or Go online.

    Or MUD. No one thinks these days that scrolling text could have anything to do with a game.

  145. UT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Similar situation is at school, in any of my programming classes. When we have a substitute, we'll load up Unreal Tournament, in a window of course, and game the period away. As soon as the sub comes to check what we're doing, we open up Word, or what ever. The computer-ignorant subs normally don't have the eye power nor computer intelligence to take a look/unhide the task bar.

    Good fun.

  146. I simply would like to have a job.. by ChozSun · · Score: 1

    ... I stop playing games at work because I am so damn busy. Nice that I got laid off and haven't found shit since.

    The next job I get I will work my ass off. Playing games at work is cool when I was younger but if you are that bored, you are going to be canned sooner or later.

    --
    ChozSun
    ChozSun.com
  147. Reminds me of the time I went to the Capitol by Skim123 · · Score: 2
    in Jefferson City, MO. There's one part where there is this room for various clerical type employees, and they all have their backs to the hallway, and there's a long glass wall, so you can see them all. There must have been about 8 of them, all lined up at their computers, each and every one of them playing solitaire.

    Your tax dollars (if you live in Missouri) hard at work.

    --

    I could not justify my existence if I were a turkey farmer. Would I terminate myself? Undoubtably, yes.

  148. Magic the Gathering by scubacuda · · Score: 2, Informative

    Magic the Gathering is always a fun one. You can download a free graphical tabletop based freeware program that allows one to play with anyone over the Internet.

    The program contains a working database of every Magic card ever created as well as a means to keep track of all the information required to conduct a full game, so you don't have to spend money on tons of cards in order to create an asesome deck.

    Apprentice requires Windows 95, 98, NT, or 2000. Development for Macintosh, Linux, and BeOS will begin after Apprentice 2.0 is completed.

  149. Re:Kikes by DaemonGem · · Score: 1

    How did this even come up, the post had nothing to do with jews or even black people. How did this come up?

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    j00 4r3 3n73r1ng l337 w0r1d.
  150. Re:Not at MY work by Dexx · · Score: 1

    (match.com, lotsoftimewastinggames.com, etc.)

    You forgot slashdot.org..

    --
    Feel the fear and do it anyway.
  151. CounterStrike Overload by smeng · · Score: 1

    My previous company went on a CS high. When I first joined last Feb, the guys there got me hooked on after working hours CS within days after I started. Well, that's how it first started - after working hours. Eventually, as the dotcom boom started going downhill, so did everyone's motivation. Soon we had lunchtime CS and eventually, towards the end of the company's inevitable demise, it was CS slightly before lunch, and then again at 4pm. The graphics guys were playing soccer and strategy games in between and a few of us on Yahoo! Games. Got to the extend when people were also watching movies at work. Oh well, helps if the bosses are never around and our team leader was crazy over CS as well.

    It was fun while it lasted...

  152. but when things go wrong all are needed by DABANSHEE · · Score: 2

    Ie, it never rains but it pours.

    You have no idea what the back shifts are about do you?

    they are only there for when something fuckups.

    90% of 90% of nights they only need 1 person, nut when things fuck up they'll all of a sudden get 50 cals a minute, that's why they have 15 people on.

  153. Perfect for the 10 min break by CaptainFoo · · Score: 1

    Check out Multris.com. It is absolutely perfect if you need a 10 minute break from work. For the panic-boss-is-coming feature, just close the window and pretend you were reading Slashdot...

  154. I DON'T want to hear about games by buss_error · · Score: 1
    Went in at 7am on Sat, got out 2AM on Sunday. If you are playing games at work, I really, really hate you. The closest I come is checking /., el Reg, and a few others. Normally to see if there are any new virii that haven't hit CERT yet.

    --
    Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
  155. New games... by vanyel · · Score: 1

    ...have a new feature --- it's called the "Keep Your Job Feature". Since you can't get away with playing them when you're not supposed to, you actually get your work done and keep your job so you can afford the computer to play them on at home.

  156. Re:Not at MY work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Shhhh! slash-whatca ?? Nothing to see here, just move along now.

  157. Re:Not at MY work by c0d34w4y · · Score: 1

    What company was that?

    can you please give me the name of that company and I'll make sure I never come to work for it!

    This is simply lame.

    At the company I'm working for, we don't have strict rules.. it's almost a given that you won't play games/surf the web endlessly if it hurts ongoing projects etc. Frankly, I'm loaded with so much work that I can hardly find enough time to finish my lunch off! The good thing, however, is that I don't hear my boss or someone else at the company say "You'll be fired if we find you surfing the web for at least 15 minutes" OR "You are strictly prohibited to surf for more than 15 minuts, play _any_ kind of games, etc.. " you know what I'd do then? I'd simply walk away. I'm absolutely positive in my skills and am confident that I wouldn't waste much time finding another job.

    If you want your employees treat the company with respect, treat your employees like you'd treat any other responsible adult. *period*

  158. Everyone knows why to choose opensource... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  159. Re:Tiny Windows games for workers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    And for us *nix users there are always the dockapps. Having a window manager that supports dockapps is not a requirement. The dockapps just won't dock, that's all.

  160. Yup. Nethack rocks.... by billstewart · · Score: 2

    C'mon, the very name implies "These aren't the games you're looking for, you can move along".

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    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  161. M-x dunnet, and C-x-b by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Subject says it all.

  162. Xpilot by TardisX · · Score: 1
    Xpilot is an institution where I work. Every lunch time almost without fail, for 60 minutes we gather on our local server for a little mayhem.

    Windows and Unix clients available. Bit of a learning curve, but very rewarding.

    Try Xpilot today!

    --

    Command attempted to use minibuffer while in minibuffer
  163. Try working for the government. by Claudius · · Score: 1

    It's actually more restrictive if you work for the government--playing computer games on government property, even "after hours," falls under the rubric "Waste, Fraud, and Abuse," and could potentially (though it seldom does) lead to criminal penalties as well as administrative punishment. On the bright side, there are rewards for turning in those who defraud the government. You have a coworker who likes to play solitaire during his lunch break? Kaching!

  164. Nethack? by ivank1 · · Score: 1

    Why no one mentioned nethack. It's a great game and it doesn't look much like a game. Netris is a good one too. But it looks more like a game.

  165. Hypocritical Managers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work in a Help Desk department with over a dozen other men and women. We support a rough total of around 700 other folks.
    It is against company policy to install and play games. Shockwave is technically not OK because of 'security issues'. The Solitaire, Minesweeper, Freecell, and Pinball executables were removed from our PC's HDD image prior to their rollout. If they're replaced, SMS automatically pulls them off twice a day (sometimes more.)
    Some days, it gets really really slow, and we either have to amuse our selves with raunchy jokes, bad stories, wav files of corny movie lines, movie trailers off the web, reading books, or just tossing a small ball around.

    Meanwhile, the boss is over in his segregated cubicle, playing Minesweeper. Mgrs are exempt from SMS scanning.

  166. a gaming site everybody missed... by bashbrotha · · Score: 1

    what about http://www.orisinal.com?
    Incredible games that are really addictive and are quick playing. Besides, they all work great under linux (moz 0.9.8).

  167. Teach yourself something new instead of playing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Here's a novel idea, and one I try to follow.

    Rather than playing games at work, teach yourself
    some now technology. Then, when it comes time
    for bonuses or raises you'll have a leg to stand
    on. Also, maybe it could get you into a more
    exciting and better paying job.

    That is all.

  168. Dare I say... by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

    Hunt the Wumpus... :-)

  169. The ultimate boss key by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 2

    Is working from home. The hardest thing to do is remember to shut the sound off whatever game you're playing when somebody calls.

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    The Internet is generally stupid
  170. Re:Tiny Windows games for workers by Shiny+Metal+S. · · Score: 2

    http://www.tinywindowsgames.com/tiny/ has really small games perfect for workers, play chess at 74x74 pixels. Hours of fun instead of work, and you wont get cought!

    Wait a minute, I'm not sure if I understand... You won't get cought, because these are really small games? Are they so tiny that nobody will see them? Is it safe for the eyes?

    --

    ~shiny
    WILL HACK FOR $$$

  171. Re:Tiny Windows games for workers by Shiny+Metal+S. · · Score: 2

    No kidding. A lot of that site is designed under the assumption that everyone has Javascript enabled. <noscript> motherfucker, do you speak it?

    A lot of that site is also designed under the assumption that everyone can see fonts smaller than pixels (which is actually quite a sane assumption, considering the fact that they provide games 4x4 pixels large). That said, as I am unable to read their website without getting my lazy ass off the chair and staring from the distance of 2mm from the screen using a magnifying glass, so my question is: are they available only for Windows? As for the Javascript, I enabled the damn thing, but I still can't see their screenshots. But then again I probably wouldn't be able to see them even if I could display them, if they are as small as fonts... Oh, well, it's only my own fault that I bought a 15" monitor having problems with sight. I should've bought 50" projector instead, then I wouldn't complain about incompetent web designers, like I always do...

    --

    ~shiny
    WILL HACK FOR $$$

  172. try working by Navarre · · Score: 1

    Here's a thought. Do you job.

  173. digger baby, digger! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.digger.org
    Yeah!

  174. Two words... by LordoftheFrings · · Score: 1

    Voodoo Football My best score is 78. Whats yours?

  175. Helps getting the game made in the first place by prodangle · · Score: 1

    I have a theory about this one. Once a game reaches a a sort-of playable stage, all the developers will do from then on is play it, and the game will never get finished as it should be. Management force them to make games this way, so developers can't play the game themselves without being caught, and they will have to work on the finishing touches instead.

  176. Hmm. This game meets those requirements :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.subspace.net/

  177. Leisure Suit Larry Pinball by wo1verin3 · · Score: 2

    Had an ALT-H command and you could choose the icon it minimized as. ALT-H minimized my game and made it look like a Lotus 123 spreadsheet icon. I wish they had this for everquest :(

  178. MUD by Kidbro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    'nuff said.

  179. I use two computers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One is dialed out of the company onto Diablo II Battle Net, the other is logged into my email and stuff.

    Just switch the screen and be prepared to have your character get fried or hacked while you are not paying attention.

    The division I'm in has no work, but won't let us transfer out either. So what else is there to do? I've already finished one C# book. Don't flame me for being a slacker. If there is work to do I'd do it right away.

  180. Here is why I don't by eberry · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If I was an employee of a company I wouldn't play games, even if it was sanctioned in the company handbook. Two reasons:

    1. First time your project slips, guess what (or rather who) is to blame?

    Me: "I haven't completed the importing of the blah, blah data into the new system. It will be done by Friday."

    Boss: "Well you seemed to have enough time to play Quake III all last week"

    2. I could never look my boss in the face at a review and say "I deserve to make this much or this position", if he know I was playing games. (Even during lunch.)

    Bottom line is I never give them anything to hang over my head. Even if they want me to go to a conference in Florida during the middle of winter I act like I am getting screwed. Work should be as painful as possible (or look that way at least if you want to get an edge over your boss.)

    Of course I like that employees typical burn company time and equipment. It makes selling myself that much easier. I am successful as an independent contractor because I try my hardest not to waste time. I have been well trained by the Army to avoid distractions.

    I am not going to say grow up and all that. But I do think if you have time to waste like that, you're not balancing your time correctly. And as for talking to co-workers and snack runs as being just as time wasting. Rubbish! Talking to co-workers builds relationships which helps at the workplace (as long as it's not hours at a time.) Casual conversion while working can be mentally stimulating. And who can work without sugar and caffeine? If I feel I can't concetrate, I grab another Mt. Dew.

    Not preaching, just my thought on the subject.

    --
    Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Lois, this isn't my Batman glass. - Peter
    1. Re:Here is why I don't by CaptainSulu · · Score: 1

      Are you British? Where do you get Mountain Dew in this country?

      Ahhhhh!

  181. The SPC700 is a lovely processor! by pommiekiwifruit · · Score: 1

    I thought it had a lovely instruction set compared to most 8 bit machines.

    The DSP registers are OK too - the real pain was the tiny and seemingly unpredictable ports between the 658C16 and the SPC700 - four ports (one byte each way) but when you poked bytes in one end you didn't know what order they were going to come out the other end in :-(

    But I let the sound guys write the GBA driver instead of doing it myself - which makes me wonder - is it so hard for them to give me envelope controls on indivual samples? Pretty please! I had it on the SNES, so why not on the GBA? (I think they are mixing them in software so they claim it would cost too much processor power) :-(

  182. games by urizenxvii · · Score: 1

    it's called Larn, NetHack, and all those other fun, free roguelike games... sometimes simpler is better!

  183. "Boss key" and motion sensors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a joke!!! The bosses aren't stupid low tech idiots anymore. They probably can't code, but they're willing to pay for it, if they're stingy on game playing at work. Want to know what the boss does nowadays to catch people goofing off? Search for this in Google:
    desktop spy software

    Better hack those trojans to fool those spyware because you sure can't remove it.

    These spywares have been available for years now. The question is balance, whether it is better to overwork workers, or to reduce workers' stress and make the work-place a fun place to be. One would think to support the latter over the turnover and the sick-leave.

  184. Re:Not at MY work by osgeek · · Score: 2

    Why don't you do what I did, and take your life's savings to start a company. Pay people out of your own money while you don't make a salary for a year while you build your company up.

    Then, let your employees spend 90% of their time playing games and screwing around. When you consciously realize where employment comes from and how it affects you personally, I think you'd change your shallow attitude.

  185. Re:Kikes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    didn't you see the law and order where the kids wrote "KILL ALL KIKES" in their yearbook? Whats wrong with you?

  186. Stuff. by Calmiche · · Score: 1

    Well, I got about half way through these cooments before running out of time, but I'll throw another couple of things out there. I haven't seen Alt - F4 mentioned. On almost any windows based program, it quickly closes just about any program. As for Games, I really like nethack. It's small, fun, and really, really hard to beat. Civilization 1 is one of the best old games. It fits on two meg, and can take up to 6 hours to play. Calmiche,

  187. panic button by onShore_Jake · · Score: 1

    Not exactly a game, but headhunter has one!.
    http://www.Headhunter.net/JobSeeker/PanicPage.htm

  188. In-browser games! by adamp3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In-browser games are easy to hide and are good for short-term distractions that won't totally kill your "productivity".

    Multiplayer Mini-Golf
    NetbabyWorld (not Mozilla-friendly)
    Orisinal (little Flash games)
    Spaced Penguin! (fun with gravity)

    ...at least they're better than solitaire.

    Just wish there was more out there.

  189. quake 3 by diesel_jackass · · Score: 2

    \bind * quit

    thats what i use.
    works great.

  190. There are a gazillion other stuff to do. by chris_7d0h · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Gaming at work?
    Sounds very foreign to me. In today's competitive business culture, you need to stay on the front line. Having some spare time? Fine, read Sun's latest Java specs, or W3C's XML specification.
    There are always stuff to learn and the more you know, the better you will perform.
    Playing games will hardly lead to any promotions nor more interesting job assignments.

    --
    In a society that believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda ~ Bill Durodié
  191. boss key? SoftIce! by seudafed · · Score: 1

    Just install SoftIce, and when the boss comes buy, hit Ctrl-D and pretend you are deep in debugging. sky

  192. Here's one-- Hichhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by bschoate · · Score: 1

    http://www.douglasadams.com/creations/infocomjava. html

    Requires java. Minimize window if the boss comes.

  193. Re:Tiny Windows games for workers by tinygames · · Score: 1

    The site is just a fun site. It's depressing that in a year of running tinywindowsgames.com, this is the first negative comment. I have always found it strange that people in the computer industry tend to be some of the most backwards when it comes to exploiting technology. Most people have JavaScript enabled and that helps us to create sites in a quick and useful way.

    Incidentally, you can zoom in to view the text better using menu options, or in IE you can hold down the control key and use the mouse wheel.

  194. baseball mogul 200x by muhgcee · · Score: 1

    A great game to play while you are at work is baseball mogul 200x. The latest one is 2003. It is a text-based baseball management game in which you have full control over a team.

  195. Re:Tiny Windows games for workers by Shiny+Metal+S. · · Score: 2

    I have always found it strange that people in the computer industry tend to be some of the most backwards when it comes to exploiting technology.

    This

    <font FACE="COURIER NEW" SIZE="-2"><b><i>Arcade Machine Emulators for download...</i></b></font>

    is not new technology. It's actually very outdated way to control text appearance. If you want to exploit technology, use XHTML Strict and Cascading Style Sheets.

    But I wasn't talking about the way how the fonts are made smaller than the default size (size="+1" is the font larger than the user default and size="-2" is font smaller than the user default font, i.e. this size which I find the most readable - see my web design rules if you're not sure what I mean). I was only commenting the idea of using fonts smaller than the size which I have chosen as the best size for me.

    Incidentally, you can zoom in to view the text better using menu options, or in IE you can hold down the control key and use the mouse wheel.

    Of course I can set my default font so large that when the size is decreased twice the result will be my favorite size. But this way the correctly designed websites would have fonts too large and it's completely backwards and doesn't make much sense.

    I'm sorry if you found my comment offensive. I was mostly joking because I visited a website with tiny games and I found the fonts so tiny that I couldn't read anything, which kind of made sense, because people who play so tiny games obviously has to have great sight, unlike myself. The first thing I thought was that you may have set the fonts so small, so the people with poor sight (those who wouldn't be able to play those games anyway), won't waste your bandwidth downloading games to small for them to play, because they won't find the download links. I found that kind of funny.

    As for the Javascript, as I said (please read my comment), I couldn't see the screenshots even after I enabled Javascript, so something is just broken. (JavaScript Error: http://www.tinywindowsgames.com/tiny/: document.all has no properties.)

    Most people have JavaScript enabled and that helps us to create sites in a quick and useful way.

    Yes, most of people, but not everyone. Unless you use the <noscript> tag, you have to understand that those who don't have Javascript enabled, or those who don't use Javascript browsers at all, will complain that your website simply don't work, which is true however great working with Javascript it may be.

    Just use <noscript> tag and your website will work great for everyone. People with working Javascript interpreters won't see <noscript>this code</noscript> at all, so your site will be exactly the same for those who can use it today. The only difference will be to those people who can't use it today. Please read my web design rules, I believe you'll find quite a few good points there.

    I'm glad that you answered and I'm honored that you probably made your account just to answer my comment. The main reason I posted my comment (other than a joke about tiny games and tiny fonts correlation) was to ask if these games are available only for Windows, because I don't have Windows (I use Debian) but I'd like to check them out. So please tell me: what platforms do you support? Are those games released as free software (in the FSF sense)?

    If your games work under GNU/Linux systems, then I'll be glad to check them out. If they are written only for Windows but they are released as free software, then I'll maybe try to port some of them when I find any time for that. Please tell me where I can find the working screenshots, I'd like to see how do these games look like in the first place.

    Thanks and, once again, I'm sorry if you misunderstood my intentions, I really didn't want to offend you. Please don't confuse my post with the somehow more offensive parent post by limbostar.

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    ~shiny
    WILL HACK FOR $$$

  196. Re:Tiny Windows games for workers by tinygames · · Score: 1

    We're currently working on a complete site re-design (re-coding actually) to get round the ridiculous number of font tags and there is a nice cascading stylesheet helping us to do that. The tiny fonts were meant to be a laugh (The site started out with no illusions about ever getting hits and it's kinda stuck that way for a joke). Sorry if I took offense rather too quickly. It was more the thread I was replying to, not your post in particular. The games are Windows only for the moment (Hence the domain name), but a tinyworkbenchgames site is in the works for Amiga fans. There are currently no plans to develop on Linux, although if anyone wants to give it a shot, be my guest ;)

  197. GBA uses MOD-like formats by yerricde · · Score: 1

    I thought [Super NES's sound CPU] had a lovely instruction set compared to most 8 bit machines.

    IIRC, it was in essence an extended 6502 with the instruction bits permuted.

    the real pain was the tiny and seemingly unpredictable ports between the 658C16 and the SPC700 - four ports (one byte each way) but when you poked bytes in one end you didn't know what order they were going to come out the other end in :-(

    By "SPC700 processor", I meant "entire SPC700 side of the system". Without any method of debugging the sound loader, there is no way to know why a program isn't working. I gauge difficulty of programming an audio system by how much effort it takes to say "Hello World".

    is it so hard for them to give me envelope controls on indivual samples? Pretty please! I had it on the SNES, so why not on the GBA?

    GBA music formats are typically MOD-like.

    I had it on the SNES, so why not on the GBA? (I think they are mixing them in software so they claim it would cost too much processor power)

    Super NES had hardware mixing. GBA audio is essentially the same as a Sound Blaster Pro: two 8-bit sample channels with DMA playback, and some legacy (Ad Lib for SB; DMG audio for GBA) tone generators. Mixing is at least a multiply (volume) and two adds (playback frequency and mixing sum) per voice per channel.

    There are several GBA MOD players available for licensing, and one to be released soon is Lesser GPL'd.

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    1. Re:GBA uses MOD-like formats by pommiekiwifruit · · Score: 1

      By "SPC700 processor", I meant "entire SPC700 side of the system". Without any method of debugging the sound loader, there is no way to know why a program isn't working. I gauge difficulty of programming an audio system by how much effort it takes to say "Hello World".

      Simply don't bother to put any bugs in the code, and then it works fine! :-) What confused me was the odd handshaking, but after that it was plain sailing (says he of great memory loss :-)

      Yeah, I think the GBA sound guys are using a mod like format, given that the words "pattern completed" appears on their driver sometimes. I prefer less regimented schemes myself, but I guess MODs run faster than MIDI.

  198. Re:Not at MY work by ScuzzMonkey · · Score: 2

    People who are just screwing off and not getting their job done should get axed. But over-focusing on where each minute of an employee's day goes and trying to account for every single penny of productivity is counter-productive as well. There are intangibles involved here; loyalty, effort, enthusiasm. And I've found, time and again, that companies that have happy employees who feel that they are trusted and valued get better results than companies that try to squeeze every last ounce of non-work related activity out of their zombies.

    I'm at a place like that now (obviously there not very good at it, or I'd not be posting here right now). They do everything in their power to ensure that everyone knows they are here to 'work, not have fun' so they can get every possible ounce of useful work out of each of us. But if backfires, badly. I hate being here, I spend my time not being productive, but counting the minutes till I go home. I'm out the door right on time, every day. I never skip lunch. I never go that extra mile--it's been made clear that work is work, and so I make sure it doesn't impinge in the least on the rest of my life. Got a major systems problem at 4:58PM? Too bad, it'll have to wait till tomorrow.

    Contrast this with the last place I was at. Man, I loved that job. We played Half-Life half the time, spent hours talking about trivia and tech, wandered in and out at random hours, and generally did a lot of things that would give more traditional business owners a heart-attack. But if there was a problem, we were all over it. I've never worked harder on anything in my life; I've never put in more hours anywhere. And I did it for a fraction of what I make where I'm at now. I would have done anything to keep that place afloat, and so would most of the rest of the staff, and consequently, we were extremely profitable. We got rid of dead wood, but having fun on the job did not necessarily equal a bad investment in someone. What it taught me is that you should be measured by what you accomplish, not how much time you spend doing it.

    I left there for other reasons and I've regretted it ever since. But I see this phenomena with all sorts of different companies. The ones with happy, dedicated employees do better than the ones with mindless drones. You may be able to justify drones more easily to the accountants, but if you're really concerned about doing well, take the chance and try building a workforce that enjoys what it is doing enough to do it well and cheaply.

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  199. Re:Not at MY work by nlh · · Score: 2

    Sorry -- I'm a bit ahead of where you think I am. I did start a company, with my own money. I did pay my employees with my own money, and I did work for no salary for the first year. I grew the company to 31 people and sold it in February for a lot of money.

    And you know what? I never ONCE considered implementing draconian policies like this. My employees played games (after hours, when they knew it was OK), used IM, surfed the web, and got all of their work done. The ones that didn't got canned (usually for more complex, but similar issues), and you know what else? My former employees constantly tell me that they'd work for me and my partners again in a SECOND and that they wish all jobs were as great as the ones they had.

    I think my attitude is not shallow in the slightest.

    --noah

  200. United 238? U238? Uranium 238? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    U238, huh? Cute.

  201. armagetron by MrDBCooper · · Score: 1

    rocks! (it's also in Debian, of course :)

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  202. Work Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try sim city classic - www.maxis.com, playable in a browser! Very easy to hide!

  203. Re:Tiny Windows games for workers by Shiny+Metal+S. · · Score: 2

    Sorry if I took offense rather too quickly. It was more the thread I was replying to, not your post in particular.

    OK. No problem.

    The games are Windows only for the moment (Hence the domain name), but a tinyworkbenchgames site is in the works for Amiga fans. There are currently no plans to develop on Linux, although if anyone wants to give it a shot, be my guest ;)

    I don't have much of free time right now, but I could take a look at the source of a simple game and see if I could port it. I don't know how your games are written but if it's standard C or C++ and if you have some internal frame buffer, than it shouldn't be hard to output that buffer to SDL window. Even if it had to be converted to different format with every frame, the overhead shouln't be high with small screen.

    Actually, you may want to take a look at the Simple DirectMedia Layer (SDL) library. Using SDL, you could write portable games working under Windows, Linux, MacOS, MacOS X, Solaris, IRIX, FreeBSD, QNX, OSF/True64. Here's a short summary from SDL website:

    Simple DirectMedia Layer is a cross-platform multimedia library designed to provide fast access to the graphics framebuffer and audio device. It is used by MPEG playback software, emulators, and many popular games, including the award winning Linux port of "Civilization: Call To Power." Simple DirectMedia Layer supports Linux, Win32, BeOS, MacOS, Solaris, IRIX, and FreeBSD. SDL is written in C, but works with C++ natively, and has bindings to several other languages, including Ada, Eiffel, ML, Perl, PHP, Python, and Ruby.

    I really recomend SDL. It's developed mostly by Sam Lantinga, who worked in Loki porting Kohan: Immortal Sovereigns, Tribes 2, Heavy Gear II, Heretic II, Heroes of Might and Magic III, Railroad Tycoon II, Civilization: Call To Power and few other titles, and is now working in Blizzard on the World of Warcraft - in other words, he knows how to code games, and it shows with the SDL. Check out the games, demos and other applications which use SDL.

    For the portable sound code you can use SDL_mixer and for more advanced effects I recommend the OpenAL which takes care for you about the 3-D sound effects in a similar fashion as OpenGL with graphics.

    What language and libraries do you use anyway?

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    ~shiny
    WILL HACK FOR $$$