Well now I think we have a plausible reason why Europe has mass public transit. Not the "better for the earth" or "more efficient" or any of that other stuff European's like to snub their noses at American's about. The fact is they make the penalties so harsh that to actually drive would be detrimental one's livelihood. There is no way I'm paying 200K for a speeding ticket for 12mph over. 18 days in jail for speeding is indeed a cruel punishment, I guess that's why we banned that in our Constitution. If I lived in those places you mentioned, I'd be on the train all the time simply because it's dumb to do otherwise. And see I'm what people here on/. would call a bleeding heart liberal and always thought Scandanvia would be awesome to move to just to avoid the rednecks I live amongst now. When you post things like you did however, it makes me start doubting that "dream"
This is perhaps the most intelligent thing I have read all day. I burned through my mod points yesterday so when I get some more I'll throw ya one. It is simple divide and conquer, making us fight with our coworkers and neighbors instead of turning our ire on them. Its a classic play from several of the great literary works, and it's obviously very effective.
So the solution in this instance is to not use molten salt reactors in Alaska. You are trotting out the tired argument that this solution doesn't cover 100% of the use cases therefore it should be thrown in the trash. This is highly illogical. You use the best tool for the job. That datacenter you mentioned is running real servers instead of commodity desktop pc's. To follow your line of reasoning then desktop pc's should be thrown away and everyone should have a server at home so that in the event they need 10,000 simultaneous email connections they will be able to do so. Do you not see the silliness in this line of reasoning? If a power plant needs alot of sun to function then you obviously don't build it somewhere that doesn't have that! Look at how absurd it would be if there was only one vehicle available for any task. We'd all be driving greyhound busses with 60 foot flatbeds attached! Luckily it seats 100 passengers and all their homes comfortably and with a variety of onboard attachments can drill a well, haul coal to the coal plant, AND pave the highway at the same time it is bulldozing, tunneling, and landscaping it! Now that I think about it, from a preteen boy's perspective this would be a pretty badass vehicle. From a more realistic veiwpoint though all of that is entirely useless when all we are actually gonna do with it is haul one guy and his man-purse to work twice a day.
USE THE BEST TOOL FOR THE JOB! Why people have to constantly repeat that to the supposedly better educated slashdot denizen though I will never know. It makes me sad.
Now hold on. Michael Moore showed me a video where the news only reports awesome stuff like puppies and kittens and new speed bumps in school parking lots. The only murders Canada has are from those damned thugs in Detroit crossing the border to raid your maple syrup reserves.
All joking aside (actually serious here), as an American, I've generally thought you guys were pretty lax as far as violent crime. I was certainly not aware of Winnipeg being a gangster run town. Are you suggesting that Candada is actually just as bad as everywhere else but your gov has a better PR department? I have been considering a move to Vancouver for awhile now.....
Budget cuts, reductions in the rate of increase, sequestration, whatever bullshit politically confusing words you wanna call it, the effect is the same: I'M GETTING LAID OFF. Isn't being pedantic and insulting a sign of single digit IQ?
I find it gleefully ironic considering your username. You seem to have realized this though so in that case, KEEP REEDING (weave me a basket while you're at it!)
At first I thought that this was some epic sarcasm as I am a fan of the practice. However if you scroll down towards the bottom of the comments section, you can see that DNS posted this gem: http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570077&cid=43241181
After reading that, I am thinking that perhaps DNS was actually being serious. That post is also filled with what one might say was even more thickly veiled sarcasm but the post above has that final line which you and I thought clearly defined it as sarcasm. My linked to post does not have any final statement and actually empathises with women in tech:
"One woman's story about Imposter Syndrome and how it affected her geek career. [wikia.com] This is serious stuff, people. If we can't overcome this, then women will never be accepted as equals in tech.:("
That statement, to me, says that even though we thought he/she was being sarcastic here, that they are indeed siding with Adria and so the responses to DNS's post are quite on-topic.
I have already gotten tired of this useless excuse. Would you in your job, sit and scream at your desk, until your CEO comes down to your cubicle and holds your hand while you do your job? Of course not and the fact that the Repubs are doing just this is ludicrous. They need to get off their insanely high paid asses and do their job. For us normal folks, we'd get fired for holding up the production line and the fact that they are immune to this same punishment makes me wanna punch babies. So McCain and all the other whiney Senators who refuse to do anything are simply using this as another excuse to make the Democrats and Obama look like ineffectual assholes. Apparently they are doing a pretty good job at it sadly.
Are you in the United States? I am, in Tennessee as a matter of fact. We have several things, epilepsy among them, that can bar you from driving as you mentioned. The "reportable condition" is actually SELF reported. If I don't tell the DMV that I have epilepsy then there isn't really any way for them to find out. Now I agree 100% that someone who has seizures or passes out at random should not be driving. I personally think, and this will be quite unpopular, that if you have any kind of handicap that renders you unable to drive the vehicle as manufactured then you shouldn't be driving at all. However, this is America. We don't think about the welfare of others for the most part; it's all about individual freedoms. Even though us more rational folks know that driving is a priviledge and not a right, most don't agree. Why would they want to be singled out and denied their god-given right to drive which, because of our lack of public transport, would severely hamper thier ability to even have a job. Not everyone with epilepsy is on disability so many have to keep working. Outside of the big cities like New York, no car pretty much means no job. Before anyone can try and deflect blame onto the government for this, we would have to have multiple agencies talking to one another or all data in one location like a National ID. As we have seen on/. in the past that idea didn't go over too well for the obvious privacy implications. However events like this will have to be addressed simply due to the fact that your right to privacy might infringe on my right to live should you seize and strike me or my property. It's not an easy problem to fix and will not be remedied overnight in any case. Anyway you should redirect your outrage to another area.
That's why us engineer's have to engineer out "stupidity" as best as possible because the screwed up legal system and ineffectual political climate don't respond to problems fast enough so we basically have to cobble together some kind of hack to cover our asses. The thing is, no matter how hard we try we just can't engineer out stupid. If I made an electrical outlet that was a solid 6" of nonconductive ceramic with no holes(basically not an outlet) some jackass(or a kid) is STILL gonna figure out how to jam a fork into it and electrocute themselves. These drive-by-wire systems are the result of this. If you recall the Ford Explorer rollover thing several years ago, people called on the goverment to DO SOMETHING (TM) to save us from the ever so dangerous machines that these greedy profit driven corps were churning out. In response, the goverment somewhere around 2006ish mandated that all vehicles have anti-lock brakes, traction control, and for SUV's, Electronic Stability Control. To make these vehicles conform to those laws, auto engineers pretty much had to take away actual control from the driver. How exactly is traction control supposed to cut throttle when you've got the pedal jammed to the floor? Remove the cable or hard linkage, that's how. The side effect you are seeing now is vehicles that won't shut off, go into neutral, or stop when you command them to and there are no more manual backups to save you. I agree with several posters that the easiest fix would be a nice big old E-Stop button on the dash somewhere that directly cuts computer power when depressed. No relays, no microprocessors, or anything like that. A mechanical button in series with the power line from the fuse box that cannot refuse to operate (barring mechanical failure that is). And going back to my previous point, some idiot is still gonna figure out how to make that button not work when they need it. An engineer's job is never done!
The computer is able to measure it's data throughput, read/write times, etc. Whether programmars actually do this measurment I don't know. But if the computer knows how fast it is reading or writing a disk or transferring over the LAN then there is no reason why it shouldn't be able to make those calculations. Even if the environment changes from task swapping or adding overhead or whatever then the measurement, being dynamic, can be recalculated on the fly and the 'finish time' updated accordingly.
Mandatory Car Analogy: I know that if my speedometer indicates 60 miles/hour, that in one minute I will have travelled one mile. That's predicting the future son!
Whoa whoa whoa! You claim that cyber is a particle now? I realize that it is a small part of a word and that particles are tiny pieces of objects (generally too small to be observed by the unaided eye) but to infer that a word is a tangible object is just plain silly!
I hope you can see how we can just keep going on and on about being pedantic about wording. Humans practically compare anything to any other thing. Metaphors inside metaphors inside of others. This whole discussion (not you in particular(argh I used particle!)) is as dumb as that circle-jerk we had yesterday about Megabits and Mebibits.
In the absolute levels of suckage, no it may not be as bad as in 1913 but now you're playing the "first-world problems" card. The fact that I am bitching about not having any shoes and then you respond to me that at least I have feet since you lost yours somehow still does not solve my problem of not having shoes. You're still telling everyone here to shut up and be thankful that at least we have a job.
You know what he means by meaningful. You're being fecetious. Unless it was my dream to grow up to flip burgers, shovel shit, mindlessly pack widgets in a box, or the other thousands of mundane things we call jobs then you and I both know that to the ME that grunt work it IS meaningless. These jobs may be meaningful to society as a whole but it doesn't make me like the job at all. How many people do you know or hear from daily that hate their jobs? I hear it alot. How many of those up and coming teens wanted to be pro footballers or astronauts or the President but for whatever reason just didn't make the cut? A majority of people don't really ever get over that. Sure they will go on to do what it takes to survive but that doesn't mean they are gonna actually love doing it. Why do you think so many people have mid-life crises? I coulda done it Jimmy, I coulda been a contenda but now I just waste my days away screwing this bolt into this hole 3000 freakin times a day. It tears some folks up inside, but hey they survive don't they? Your entire first sentence is the same basic BS we hear from the Haves everyday. Shut up and get back to work. At least you have a job. Lemme put it to you this way: A job will allow you to survive, yes, but a career will let you LIVE.
Go read the Constitution. Nowhere in that document, the Bill of Rights, or in any of the Amendments is the word tyrant, tyranny, or oppression used. Not once. If the founding fathers were so worried about a tyrant taking over the new governement they fought so hard over then one would think they would have mentioned it. They didn't. The 2nd Amendment clearly spells out what the right to bear arms is used for: the Militia. If they wanted citizens to have weaponry for any reason at all then the Amendment would have simply said "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" but it has that qualifying statement first. If you study legalese then you would see that one or 2 extra little words means one hell of a difference in the application of any law or contract. Regardless of what the founding fathers or interested parties at the time wrote in thier personal or academic writings as for the reason they were doing X, they didn't codify that into law. That is a mistake on thier part. This entire nonsense could be completely cleared up with an amendment that does clearly state what they mean. You can see it in many of the newer amendments. Starting with the 13th Amendment most of them have as a final section:
"The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article."
Why did they have to add that? Well because of the 'rules lawyer' type of folks who would try and universally apply it. It explicitly says Congress, not the President, not the Supreme Court, State Legislature or even you have that authority. Only Congress does. In that light, you cannot reasonably argue that the 2nd says anything other than what it says. If that isn't good enough for you then I suggest you and like-minded folks get together and petition for an amendment that does clarify what the 2nd says. I reject the typical 4 Box method of political action. Not once in the Constitution does it advocate for anyone to go get an ammo box and overthrow the government. The treason clause actually criminalizes it.
Now please don't misconstrue anywhere in either of my posts that I hate you all and want to take away your guns. I am not arguing for or against them. I'm simply arguing against the belief that our forefathers wanted us as a nation to rise up and destroy a corrupt government or that enemies foreign or domestic included the governement itself. There is no codifed law supporting that notion.
PS I apologize for the wall of text. Evidently the default setting in/. for plain text doesn't allow for carriage returns. The dropdown box that used to let you change it appears to be gone and whatever is supposed to pop up when you hit the options button is blocked by GPO or the firewall.
This is a common and often misinterpreted rubuttel to the aforementioned misinterpretation. I took that oath. Why? Cause I was joining the military. I was going to work for Uncle Sam. Those politicians that take it are also going to work for Uncle Sam. Have you ever worked for a company that has explicitly told you to overthrow the CEO if he fails? Of course not and the US Gov isn't gonna tell you to do it either. Enemies foreign and domestic are enemies OF the goverment, not the government itself. So who are these domestic enemies you say? Well that would be folks like yourself (and say The Confederate States of America) who against the Constitution, advocate treasonous acts like 'rising up' against the government. That is there specifically to make it legal for a soldier or LEO under lawful orders from someone like the Governor (who took the oath) to shoot you in the face with impunity. The Militia that the 2nd refers to is there to repel military invasions of conquering nations, not to cut the gov's own throat. I assure you if it comes down to needing to activate the Unorganized Militia, then the gov, against all weapons bans, will readily hand you a well used M16...and the dude next to you the magazine for it.
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Well now I think we have a plausible reason why Europe has mass public transit. Not the "better for the earth" or "more efficient" or any of that other stuff European's like to snub their noses at American's about. The fact is they make the penalties so harsh that to actually drive would be detrimental one's livelihood. There is no way I'm paying 200K for a speeding ticket for 12mph over. 18 days in jail for speeding is indeed a cruel punishment, I guess that's why we banned that in our Constitution. If I lived in those places you mentioned, I'd be on the train all the time simply because it's dumb to do otherwise. And see I'm what people here on /. would call a bleeding heart liberal and always thought Scandanvia would be awesome to move to just to avoid the rednecks I live amongst now. When you post things like you did however, it makes me start doubting that "dream"
That was in a Futurama movie- LOVE THE TENTACLE!
(I'm being fecetious, but really why won't you all love the tentacle?)
This is perhaps the most intelligent thing I have read all day. I burned through my mod points yesterday so when I get some more I'll throw ya one. It is simple divide and conquer, making us fight with our coworkers and neighbors instead of turning our ire on them. Its a classic play from several of the great literary works, and it's obviously very effective.
So the solution in this instance is to not use molten salt reactors in Alaska. You are trotting out the tired argument that this solution doesn't cover 100% of the use cases therefore it should be thrown in the trash. This is highly illogical. You use the best tool for the job. That datacenter you mentioned is running real servers instead of commodity desktop pc's. To follow your line of reasoning then desktop pc's should be thrown away and everyone should have a server at home so that in the event they need 10,000 simultaneous email connections they will be able to do so. Do you not see the silliness in this line of reasoning? If a power plant needs alot of sun to function then you obviously don't build it somewhere that doesn't have that! Look at how absurd it would be if there was only one vehicle available for any task. We'd all be driving greyhound busses with 60 foot flatbeds attached! Luckily it seats 100 passengers and all their homes comfortably and with a variety of onboard attachments can drill a well, haul coal to the coal plant, AND pave the highway at the same time it is bulldozing, tunneling, and landscaping it! Now that I think about it, from a preteen boy's perspective this would be a pretty badass vehicle. From a more realistic veiwpoint though all of that is entirely useless when all we are actually gonna do with it is haul one guy and his man-purse to work twice a day.
USE THE BEST TOOL FOR THE JOB! Why people have to constantly repeat that to the supposedly better educated slashdot denizen though I will never know. It makes me sad.
Now hold on. Michael Moore showed me a video where the news only reports awesome stuff like puppies and kittens and new speed bumps in school parking lots. The only murders Canada has are from those damned thugs in Detroit crossing the border to raid your maple syrup reserves.
All joking aside (actually serious here), as an American, I've generally thought you guys were pretty lax as far as violent crime. I was certainly not aware of Winnipeg being a gangster run town. Are you suggesting that Candada is actually just as bad as everywhere else but your gov has a better PR department? I have been considering a move to Vancouver for awhile now.....
Budget cuts, reductions in the rate of increase, sequestration, whatever bullshit politically confusing words you wanna call it, the effect is the same: I'M GETTING LAID OFF. Isn't being pedantic and insulting a sign of single digit IQ?
Mei a majestik mööse bite yer seester while she is visiting the löveli lakes!
I find it gleefully ironic considering your username. You seem to have realized this though so in that case, KEEP REEDING (weave me a basket while you're at it!)
I enjoy most of your posts. Carry on!
At first I thought that this was some epic sarcasm as I am a fan of the practice. However if you scroll down towards the bottom of the comments section, you can see that DNS posted this gem:
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3570077&cid=43241181
After reading that, I am thinking that perhaps DNS was actually being serious. That post is also filled with what one might say was even more thickly veiled sarcasm but the post above has that final line which you and I thought clearly defined it as sarcasm. My linked to post does not have any final statement and actually empathises with women in tech:
"One woman's story about Imposter Syndrome and how it affected her geek career. [wikia.com] This is serious stuff, people. If we can't overcome this, then women will never be accepted as equals in tech. :("
That statement, to me, says that even though we thought he/she was being sarcastic here, that they are indeed siding with Adria and so the responses to DNS's post are quite on-topic.
Dick Tracy cites prior art!
I have already gotten tired of this useless excuse. Would you in your job, sit and scream at your desk, until your CEO comes down to your cubicle and holds your hand while you do your job? Of course not and the fact that the Repubs are doing just this is ludicrous. They need to get off their insanely high paid asses and do their job. For us normal folks, we'd get fired for holding up the production line and the fact that they are immune to this same punishment makes me wanna punch babies. So McCain and all the other whiney Senators who refuse to do anything are simply using this as another excuse to make the Democrats and Obama look like ineffectual assholes. Apparently they are doing a pretty good job at it sadly.
Are you in the United States? I am, in Tennessee as a matter of fact. We have several things, epilepsy among them, that can bar you from driving as you mentioned. The "reportable condition" is actually SELF reported. If I don't tell the DMV that I have epilepsy then there isn't really any way for them to find out. Now I agree 100% that someone who has seizures or passes out at random should not be driving. I personally think, and this will be quite unpopular, that if you have any kind of handicap that renders you unable to drive the vehicle as manufactured then you shouldn't be driving at all. However, this is America. We don't think about the welfare of others for the most part; it's all about individual freedoms. Even though us more rational folks know that driving is a priviledge and not a right, most don't agree. Why would they want to be singled out and denied their god-given right to drive which, because of our lack of public transport, would severely hamper thier ability to even have a job. Not everyone with epilepsy is on disability so many have to keep working. Outside of the big cities like New York, no car pretty much means no job. Before anyone can try and deflect blame onto the government for this, we would have to have multiple agencies talking to one another or all data in one location like a National ID. As we have seen on /. in the past that idea didn't go over too well for the obvious privacy implications. However events like this will have to be addressed simply due to the fact that your right to privacy might infringe on my right to live should you seize and strike me or my property. It's not an easy problem to fix and will not be remedied overnight in any case. Anyway you should redirect your outrage to another area.
That's why us engineer's have to engineer out "stupidity" as best as possible because the screwed up legal system and ineffectual political climate don't respond to problems fast enough so we basically have to cobble together some kind of hack to cover our asses. The thing is, no matter how hard we try we just can't engineer out stupid. If I made an electrical outlet that was a solid 6" of nonconductive ceramic with no holes(basically not an outlet) some jackass(or a kid) is STILL gonna figure out how to jam a fork into it and electrocute themselves. These drive-by-wire systems are the result of this. If you recall the Ford Explorer rollover thing several years ago, people called on the goverment to DO SOMETHING (TM) to save us from the ever so dangerous machines that these greedy profit driven corps were churning out. In response, the goverment somewhere around 2006ish mandated that all vehicles have anti-lock brakes, traction control, and for SUV's, Electronic Stability Control. To make these vehicles conform to those laws, auto engineers pretty much had to take away actual control from the driver. How exactly is traction control supposed to cut throttle when you've got the pedal jammed to the floor? Remove the cable or hard linkage, that's how. The side effect you are seeing now is vehicles that won't shut off, go into neutral, or stop when you command them to and there are no more manual backups to save you. I agree with several posters that the easiest fix would be a nice big old E-Stop button on the dash somewhere that directly cuts computer power when depressed. No relays, no microprocessors, or anything like that. A mechanical button in series with the power line from the fuse box that cannot refuse to operate (barring mechanical failure that is). And going back to my previous point, some idiot is still gonna figure out how to make that button not work when they need it. An engineer's job is never done!
The computer is able to measure it's data throughput, read/write times, etc. Whether programmars actually do this measurment I don't know. But if the computer knows how fast it is reading or writing a disk or transferring over the LAN then there is no reason why it shouldn't be able to make those calculations. Even if the environment changes from task swapping or adding overhead or whatever then the measurement, being dynamic, can be recalculated on the fly and the 'finish time' updated accordingly.
Mandatory Car Analogy: I know that if my speedometer indicates 60 miles/hour, that in one minute I will have travelled one mile. That's predicting the future son!
Exactly! The US Air Force recently changed thier stated mission per Wikipedia to:
"The stated mission of the USAF today is to "fly, fight, and win in air, space, and cyberspace"
They made it a "thing" whether we like it or not and the people with the bombs call the shots!
Whoa whoa whoa! You claim that cyber is a particle now? I realize that it is a small part of a word and that particles are tiny pieces of objects (generally too small to be observed by the unaided eye) but to infer that a word is a tangible object is just plain silly!
I hope you can see how we can just keep going on and on about being pedantic about wording. Humans practically compare anything to any other thing. Metaphors inside metaphors inside of others. This whole discussion (not you in particular(argh I used particle!)) is as dumb as that circle-jerk we had yesterday about Megabits and Mebibits.
In the absolute levels of suckage, no it may not be as bad as in 1913 but now you're playing the "first-world problems" card. The fact that I am bitching about not having any shoes and then you respond to me that at least I have feet since you lost yours somehow still does not solve my problem of not having shoes. You're still telling everyone here to shut up and be thankful that at least we have a job.
You know what he means by meaningful. You're being fecetious. Unless it was my dream to grow up to flip burgers, shovel shit, mindlessly pack widgets in a box, or the other thousands of mundane things we call jobs then you and I both know that to the ME that grunt work it IS meaningless. These jobs may be meaningful to society as a whole but it doesn't make me like the job at all. How many people do you know or hear from daily that hate their jobs? I hear it alot. How many of those up and coming teens wanted to be pro footballers or astronauts or the President but for whatever reason just didn't make the cut? A majority of people don't really ever get over that. Sure they will go on to do what it takes to survive but that doesn't mean they are gonna actually love doing it. Why do you think so many people have mid-life crises? I coulda done it Jimmy, I coulda been a contenda but now I just waste my days away screwing this bolt into this hole 3000 freakin times a day. It tears some folks up inside, but hey they survive don't they? Your entire first sentence is the same basic BS we hear from the Haves everyday. Shut up and get back to work. At least you have a job. Lemme put it to you this way: A job will allow you to survive, yes, but a career will let you LIVE.
Go read the Constitution. Nowhere in that document, the Bill of Rights, or in any of the Amendments is the word tyrant, tyranny, or oppression used. Not once. If the founding fathers were so worried about a tyrant taking over the new governement they fought so hard over then one would think they would have mentioned it. They didn't. The 2nd Amendment clearly spells out what the right to bear arms is used for: the Militia. If they wanted citizens to have weaponry for any reason at all then the Amendment would have simply said "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" but it has that qualifying statement first. If you study legalese then you would see that one or 2 extra little words means one hell of a difference in the application of any law or contract. Regardless of what the founding fathers or interested parties at the time wrote in thier personal or academic writings as for the reason they were doing X, they didn't codify that into law. That is a mistake on thier part. This entire nonsense could be completely cleared up with an amendment that does clearly state what they mean. You can see it in many of the newer amendments. Starting with the 13th Amendment most of them have as a final section: "The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article." Why did they have to add that? Well because of the 'rules lawyer' type of folks who would try and universally apply it. It explicitly says Congress, not the President, not the Supreme Court, State Legislature or even you have that authority. Only Congress does. In that light, you cannot reasonably argue that the 2nd says anything other than what it says. If that isn't good enough for you then I suggest you and like-minded folks get together and petition for an amendment that does clarify what the 2nd says. I reject the typical 4 Box method of political action. Not once in the Constitution does it advocate for anyone to go get an ammo box and overthrow the government. The treason clause actually criminalizes it. Now please don't misconstrue anywhere in either of my posts that I hate you all and want to take away your guns. I am not arguing for or against them. I'm simply arguing against the belief that our forefathers wanted us as a nation to rise up and destroy a corrupt government or that enemies foreign or domestic included the governement itself. There is no codifed law supporting that notion. PS I apologize for the wall of text. Evidently the default setting in /. for plain text doesn't allow for carriage returns. The dropdown box that used to let you change it appears to be gone and whatever is supposed to pop up when you hit the options button is blocked by GPO or the firewall.
This is a common and often misinterpreted rubuttel to the aforementioned misinterpretation. I took that oath. Why? Cause I was joining the military. I was going to work for Uncle Sam. Those politicians that take it are also going to work for Uncle Sam. Have you ever worked for a company that has explicitly told you to overthrow the CEO if he fails? Of course not and the US Gov isn't gonna tell you to do it either. Enemies foreign and domestic are enemies OF the goverment, not the government itself. So who are these domestic enemies you say? Well that would be folks like yourself (and say The Confederate States of America) who against the Constitution, advocate treasonous acts like 'rising up' against the government. That is there specifically to make it legal for a soldier or LEO under lawful orders from someone like the Governor (who took the oath) to shoot you in the face with impunity. The Militia that the 2nd refers to is there to repel military invasions of conquering nations, not to cut the gov's own throat. I assure you if it comes down to needing to activate the Unorganized Militia, then the gov, against all weapons bans, will readily hand you a well used M16...and the dude next to you the magazine for it.