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Woz Says iPhone Features Are 'Behind'
redletterdave writes "The iPhone may be one of the bestselling smartphones on the planet, but Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak believes Apple's flagship smartphone has fallen behind its competitors, namely those built by Samsung, when it comes to smartphone features. Speaking at Businessweek's Best Brand Awards on Thursday evening, Wozniak said he was proud of how loyal Apple fans were to the iPhone, but also said 'this loyalty is not given,' shortly before denouncing his own company's smartphone. 'Currently we are, in my opinion, somewhat behind with features in the smartphone business,' Wozniak said. 'Others have caught up. Samsung is a big competitor. But precisely because they are currently making great products.'" I prefer Android, but it seems hard to find iPhone users who aren't enthusiastic about it. Whatever kind of phone you prefer, are there features you envy the users of some other variety?
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my friends pay money for every little thing I download for free with my android phone. sucks to be them
Check me if I wrong, but hasn't the iPhone always been behind on features? I mean, how many years did it take just to get copy / paste.
The iPhone was never about features, it was about style and ease of use. The problem is that they set the standard and the other companies have finally caught up.
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Get over it. Why are people so emotional about it?
If more Americans cared about the bigger issues in their lives we wouldn't be tax slaves living in a crumbling nation with an out-of-control government.
Am I the only person that feels this way?
This is the feature I envy the most: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/android-phones-vulnerable-to-hackers/2013/02/01/f3248922-6723-11e2-9e1b-07db1d2ccd5b_story.html
The health of an ecosystem can be measured by the abundance of parasites... Actually, I forget if that's positive or negative correlation. Time to do some homework.
I haven't used an iPhone since my 3gs, but I switched to Android because I felt attacked constantly for being a jail breaker. With android manufacturers they may not support rooting a device, but once it is done updates generally don't remove it and try and keep me from doing it again. With my iPhone I couldn't use anything like wifi analyzer, or titanium backup. I mean there was a good wifi tracking app, then apple banned it for some stupid reason.
Also turn by turn navigation is great, Google maps is great, groove IP is great (unsure if apple has that) , and with the newest updates the transcription and voice commands under android is amazing.
I have a Nexus 4, I envy nobody. I have a $30 a month plan and Wi-Fi almost everywhere I go, so lack of LTE is non-issue for me. I'm completely pleased with this phone, no disappointments.
Or maybe you are just plain stupid. Reread what he wrote.
That's great that Wozniak can look at competing products and recognize accurately their strengths and weaknesses. That kind of objective evaluation leads to better decisions and great products. Companies that mindlessly insist that their products are the 'best' and punish any who dare to say otherwise have a difficult time putting out high quality products that people want to use. Those are the kind of companies that try to force their products on the marketplace and only have success if there is no choice but to use their products.
If apple doesn't start offering alternative faster text input methods like swype, they will lose me as a customer.
Quick question... is good product design about packing in as many features as possible, whether they are something people will actually use, or actually good ideas, or actually implemented in a good way, or something someone will actually use?
No. There are countless products in every market where the company that makes them does exactly that. They shove in every bell and whistle, whether it makes sense or not, whether it can be used in reality or not, and they are mediocre-at-best products. Many of them are bad, and you spend money on those features you will never use, just to get the handful that you will.
Just because the iPhone has "less features" doesn't make it a bad product. Similarly, just because some other phone has "more features" doesn't necessarily make it a better product. If it has more useful features, then it probably is a better product; if those features are implemented in a useful way that isn't buried under a horrible unusable interface, or requires everyone you interact with to also have that product for the feature to be of any use.
(None of what I said above applies to any specific product or manufacturer unless explicitly stated. This post was not meant to be a critique of any particular device, rather a critique on the concept of "more features == better")
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In the meantime, Google undermines itself by bankrolling a product (the Nexus 4) which is so delicate that it will crack with small temperature fluctuations.
Talk of a formidable but substandard product! I have held off buying this phone for this very reason. Google can surely do better.
I had a last generation galaxy nexus for about 6 months last year. Most of the "totally rad" features - such as the tap to share and the nfc wallet thing- were totally useless. I used them once. I really couldn't get the tap to share thing to work (with another same generation galaxy nexus). If I need to share a file with a co worker I'm going to email it anyways. The the wallet thing took longer than just getting my wallet out. I also found android to be kinda buggy (or at least buggy feeling). The fact that you could customize it to hell and back was cool but I pretty much kept it stock. I dont have the time to dick around with a phone all day. Also android's exchange support was lacking. Thats the major point. If android had true microsoft exchange support it would be a much stronger platform.
"...it seems hard to find iPhone users who aren't enthusiastic about it."
If I just spent $600 on a phone, I'd feel compelled to act like it was the greatest thing since sliced bread, too!
Until the Android ecosystem can handle an issue as basic as providing it's users with OS and security updates, Android is not ahead at all.
Over half of the Android devices out there are still running variants of version 2 of the OS and lower while the last three Android releases are version 4 and higher.
Android needs to be rearchitected so that carriers provide drivers for the hardware, while Google takes full responsibility for updates to the OS. This approach has been working with Windows for decades.
Amazing how the circle has turned when it comes to phones. The iPhone has gone from being the hip new boy breaking the rules to a member of the establishment that everyone else is slowly leaving behind.
It used to be that the iPhone was an inspirational device, a device that caused geek envy wherever you used it.
And now, well it's the device for the technical luddites who have more money than sense, or for those that Apple have managed to lock in to their closed-wall infrastructure and are now too wary of trying something else. In other words - it's the phone you recommend to your parents so you don't have to do tech support for them.
I love my iPhone, but I do wish I could side load without having to pay Apple the developer fee. On the other hand, I also realize that the code signing requirement is one reason Android has malware and iPhone doesn't, so it's a mixed bag. But it would be nice to be able to opt out without jailbreaking.
-- Two men say they're Jesus. One of them must be wrong. - Dire Straits
... other than battery life and better phone calls.
I've got a Galaxy Nexus, and the hardware is fine -- high-resolution screen, fast enough CPU, etc. The only real "lacking features" are software things, and since it's Android that's just my own fault for not finding a better app to do whatever it is.
What I seriously don't like, though, is its ability to MAKE PHONE CALLS. This is a device that people watch Netflix on, for fuck's sake. Why is it using a ~10kbps codec for voice calls with an acoustic bandpass of a few khz, and moreover one with some absolutely awful signal processing characteristics? For instance (and this is just one example), if I'm talking to someone in the wind, and there's a gust of wind on my end, the phone mutes the speaker so I can no longer hear what they're saying. Why should it do that, unless it's trying to squelch feedback, which is very much not the problem?
As for battery life, I appreciate them making the things slim, but if they'd make it another 5mm or even 8mm thicker with most of that extra volume given to battery, you'd get about four times as much life out of it. Does anyone make a phone like this?
Whatever kind of phone you prefer, are there features you envy the users of some other variety?
Small size. The flagship products from Apple and Samsung are too large bricks. Currently using HTC Wildfire S from couple of years ago. I guess Gingerbread is a bit aging already, but for my needs it's still a fantastic phone. I've seen mini models from SonyEricsson and Samsung too.
He's a smart man. I'm sure he meant to say exactly what he said. Who are you to say what he meant?
With Apple, you are the customer, and the phone is the product.
With Google, you are the product and the customer is any company that wants every little bit of information about you.
Google even admits to this. So consider this every time you think that Google products are free. They aren't, and the price could actually be more expensive than any gadget or app you could ever buy.
In many consumer electronics industries, it's normal for the lead manufacturers to be continually leap frogging each other. At any given point in time one is ahead, and on the next product cycle their main rival is ahead.
Examples of this are common. For example in cameras Nikon and Canon are changing lead position pretty much every year, and in home theater systems the same has been occurring between Yamaha and Denon for well over a decade. In smartphones and tablets it's currently a two-horse race between Apple and Samsung, and which company has its nose slightly in front should be expected to change often. And of course other companies regularly join in the fun too.
Any "lead" that a particular company might have is actually very minor, because all high tech companies chase each other closely so it's always only by a nose.
Not much of a story really. Continual leap frogging is entirely normal in the industry.
"The question of whether machines can think is no more interesting than [] whether submarines can swim" - Dijkstra
Apple has manged to convince the "unwashed masses" that their eco-system and devices are easier to use than the alternatives, and in fact their systems are pretty well thought out and easy to use and their control of the whole eco-system has made interoperability of software and hardware pretty seamless. Non-Apple sellers have the difficult job of convincing most buyers that their possibly better features are more valuable than Apple's "ease of use", even if the "ease of use" of their devices are as good or better than Apple's. The perception of Apple being the one source for hardware, software and content (through the single iTunes channel), as well as info-syncing (iCloud) is comforting to many. The competition has a number of places the consumer might feel they need to go for hardware support (Samsung perhaps), software support (Samsung, Google, and others?), content (Amazon, iTunes, etc), and services (Google and others?). Even if there is one vastly dominant company in each of these areas, they are still going to be perceived as more complicated than getting it all from Apple - even if it is not more complicated.
Tangentially, I think smart phones are approaching the same point that personal computers reached not that long ago - for the vast majority of customers the increased power and features of new devices are insufficient to justify upgrading their current device. When everyone in the world already has a decent smart phone the market for new phones is going to get much smaller.
Or maybe you are just plain stupid. Reread what he wrote.
Because we all know that there are no free apps on iTunes his friends are paying for all the stuff on their iDevices that he downloads for free with his android phone, i.e. his friends are paying for all the stuff on their iDevices that he pirates and installs on his android phone, it sucks to be his friends because they are morons who pay for stuff instead of being 1337 pirates like him... happy now?
I carry an iPhone and I do like it OK, but I have various meetings that I participate in on a regular schedule (business, church, etc.) where it would be desirable to me to put it on vibrate automatically. With Android there are several nice (and free, though that doesn't matter so much to me) apps where you can set up a schedule to control the ringer. Apple just provides this lame "quiet time" setting, which is configurable only for night hours and not for arbitrary repeating time ranges. (There are various lame third party iOS apps that attempt to do this, but do it quite poorly while quickly draining your battery.)
Not sure why Apple never fixed this shortcoming -- maybe a patent issue. Or perhaps a reason as lame as that the mute is an actual hardware on/off switch on the side of the phone, and they thought it would break the beauty and elegance for the software state not to match the hardware state, or something. Anyway, Apple settled for inferiority/inconvenience on that one, and it annoys me.
I prefer Android, but it seems hard to find iPhone users who aren't enthusiastic about it.
There are a large number of people out there who think the iPhone is the only smartphone. So when they buy a smartphone, they buy an iPhone and love it, because the only thing they compare it too is their old clamshell phone. So naturally, they are very enthusiastic about it.
Actually, on a larger level my hypothesis is that Apple products work great for anyone who does not question the arbitrary limitations put on the software by Apple in the name of "ease of use". They just assume that "phones can't do that" or "computers don't do that" and are happy; whereas if you know a little bit about how much effort it would be to have that feature, and that it's omitted solely to simplify (i.e. dumb things down), it is immensely frustrating (although it seems once one reaches Apple Guru level, all the workarounds are second nature and these things are once again painless). In short, a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. I say this at someone who uses Linux/Android at home, but OSX/iOS at work.
Phones like the Samsung Galaxy S2 LTE was available to customers in places like Canada toward the end of 2011. I watched the September 2012 video in which the iPhone 5 is introduced. At one point the speaker (Phil Schiller?) says the iPhone 5 will have LTE support, which is followed by a big round of applause. By then, there were a variety of Android phones in customer hands already with LTE, in a number of countries - and Android users had been using LTE phones since 2011.
I remember older iPhone presentations where they really were announcing new features - not playing catch up to something there had been Android phones out with the year before. That said, the iPhone is a good phone, and they've generally kept pace with the cutting edge of technology.
Woz has not been officially affiliated with Apple for how long. The author seems to write as if Apple is still in some way associated with Woz. This is mostly journalist seeking news where there is none.
my friends pay money for every little thing I download for free with my android phone. sucks to be them
He gets for free everything he downloads with his Android phone thanks to his friends paying money in his stead. Honestly, that's not what was meant, and that's easy enough to see. However, the statement can be interpreted in both ways. English language, how I loathe thee.
I have been a captive in America my entire life. Everybody and everything uses customary units instead of metric.
Price must be under 100 euros, no touch, good battery life, camera for snapshots.
I use phone mainly for talking, some texting and rarely sending MMS. For mobile data I use my laptop and 3g modem.
My current phone, Nokia 3120 Classic, is over three years old and has so far survived dogs teeths, horse saliva and my sweat. Next phone is probably Samsung Xcover 271, if they still make that when my current phone dies.
I'm mostly satisfied with it. It does what I want. Phone calls. Alarm. Text messaging. Calendar. E-mail. Unfortunately, it's made it easier to use Twitter and Facebook - but I'm weaning myself from that.
One reason I switches to a smartphone was for a GPS device that might be able to help me for a single trip to NYC. Unfortunately, the "free" App that I used at first is no longer free, but I don't need it now either.
I wonder sometimes, that if I'd gotten an Android phone, I might have felt more obliged to use it as a personal/portable computing device and hack it, etc. rather than using it as an appliance as I do with the iPhone. I think that obligation would have left me a lot more dissatisfied.
Somehow, the difficulty of finding a useful App in the Apple iPhone App Store makes it easy for me to ignore them.
Face it all modern smartphones with their large glass screens are fragile. Older iPhones with their steel cases and smaller screens can take a little more abuse, but nothing like a rugged dumb phone. It not rocket science, you have to invest in a decent case and screen protector.
If you want to make a successful product you should do the exact opposite of what Woz says.
Even at the cost of shelving background apps, I envy iPhone in that its battery life is much longer.
My samsung Charge lacks one. Seems useful while hiking and camping, or at least interesting. The faster GPS fixes would be nice as well. I wouldn't mind some external temperature sensing ability, or infrared camera, but I don't know if current models sport these.
What? No sig?
I own both a Galaxy SIII and an iPhone 5 (iPhone since iPhone 3 - 2nd Android, HTC Incredible about a month, and SIII is for testing - but I've tested idea of making it my primary phone and relegating iPhone to testing)
I agree that iPhone OS and hardware are inferior to the SIII. Tethering is unstable on the iPhone compared to the SIII. Thing is, I have a few pieces of software that I paid for and are really critical to how I work and live. There are some Android "substitutes", but I've yet to find good solutions. I'd pay $10 or $20 or more if I can find apps that worked, or better still, to buy a ported version.
The best thing about a boolean is even if you are wrong, you are only off by a bit.
They were able to convince people to make their products part of their identities (Jobs' charisma had a lot to do with that too.). Harley Davidson has done it too and so has every luxury brand out there.
But it's just not shiny things. How many folks brag about using only F/OSS? Or Linux? Or Android - how many folks here are really smug about their Android use?
Or an ideology or religion?
When folks get emotionally attached to anything, their rationality goes out the window and they get very angry when you criticize said object, brand, ideology, religion, etc ... because it's the equivalent of attacking them personally in their minds.
Woz never ceases to be butthurt about apple. More features does not mean better. Apple remains so popular because it's simple and easy to use, and does the basics of what people want with little fuss. The more features you add the more complexity, stacking on more features is what ruins almost every product in the end, because they start adding negligible value but deteriorate the interface and performance seriously.
People who love their iPhones usually bought them. There are two things going on there. Firstly, it's a self-selecting group. They bought into the idea of the ads they saw for the phone. Secondly, they spent money on it. When you make a purchase, you tend to self-justify. You think what you bought was the best, because otherwise you got suckered. No one likes that, so we tell ourselves we won. What we have is the best.
I was handed an iPhone by my company. It's really nice to have a free phone and I appreciate it hugely. Yes, it's a ball and chain to the company, but if they hadn't given me the phone, they'd be calling me on my personal phone anyhow.
But I hate the iPhone. Hate it. My antipathy for it was nonexistent when I got it. It was way better (in some ways) than the crappy blackberry it replaced. But over time, I've grown more and more frustrated with the potential of the thing which is squandered. Every little thing about it annoys me.
My wife has an android phone. I am so envious. There's still much to hate there, but not nearly as much, and there seems to be progress on Android. Something which annoys you might actually get fixed. On the iPhone, you must learn to love it, for it will never change.
If the iThings had some sort of switch you could set with a suitable "at your own risk warning" to jailbreak it, I'd buy one in a heartbeat. Without such a thing, they go on my "no way, no how" list.
Then again, I don't even run an Android phone, simply because mobile data amounts to highway robbery (or else you have to settle for crappy coverage). If the cell companies are going to cram expensive data plans when most places I'd actually need data have Wi-Fi, then screw 'em.
Oh, no! You have walked into the slavering fangs of a lurking grue!
I was just thinking about how Apple's products have evolved this century.
They produced the first good MP3 player, the iPod. Then others developed good MP3 players too.
They moved on to the first good smartphone, the iPhone. Then others developed good smartphones too.
They moved on to the first good tablet, the iPad. Then others developed good tablets too.
Apple needs a new form factor. And it seems to me that they're perfectly positioned to develop a wrist-phone-hub thing. You put a phone in a wristwatch form factor, give it a simple screen, up-to about three buttons, one camera, and lots of radio antennas and batteries in the wristband. Use Siri for most interactions with it, allow it to hook to Bluetooth headphone devices, and make it a small hotspot for your other iDevices.
(T>t && O(n)--) == sqrt(666)
Like most Blackberry converts, I miss BBM. But since having jumped ship for Android, I couldn't ever go back. There wouldn't be many contacts to go back to either, on my own BBM, as most friends jumped ship to Android or Apple themselves. It would have been nice if BB had extended the great messaging platform to other operating systems.
iphone should have micro usb and SD card slot.
Lots of phones have micro usb so that makes it easy to find cables if just for chagrining and you can easily use car usb ports just need a cheap cable and then you have power.
And mostly of the "it doesn't crash" feature.
Seriously, I know I'm a dying breed, but I want a phone that can make a call, no matter what. Everything else is fluff. And if it crashes every couple hours or days, it does not fulfill that spec.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
And the ability to easily switch between multiple running tasks is something that even in android 4 can't feel comfortable, and was something that was present in the N900 back in 2009. It could require more battery use than not having it, but it is pretty useful.
I would be very interested if an iPhone user put forth one feature that the iPhone has, and Android is incapable of doing. I have not found a single thing an Android user would have to envy iPhone users for. This is partly because the iPhone is a phone, and Android is an operating system that comes installed on phones that run the whole gamut from cheap and flimsily-built knockoffs to high-end cutting edge powerhouses.
There is always an Android phone out there that fits your bill. There is however, only one iPhone.
Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem.
Tried it, hated it, never again. I mostly use my phone as a music player, and here are all issues that it had, all of which were really annoying to me in daily use
- Every time I connect to charge, my on-the-go playlist is reset
- No custom EQ
- No browse-by-folder
- Only exchange files with one machine, and can't treat it as just a hard drive that happens to have music
- Stupid 'features' enabled by default, such as shake-to-randomize-song-order, I had some 'what the fuck?' moments there before I learned to turn them off.
Now a happy Galaxy Note II user, it's not exactly cheap but none of the above issues, bigger screen, and if I don't like the player that came with it I could always change it. I also think it looks better but that's of course subjective. I'm hardly a tinkerer these days, am hardly exposed to ads (don't watch TV for example, and walk to work so don't see ads in public transport much), and price is pretty much irrelevant for me when choosing phones.
The iPhone is great if you happen to like it just the way Uncle Steve wants it, but I have a hard time understanding how anybody who actually has own opinions of their own could do that.
Android is littered with a choice hell, and certain apps freeze the hell out of the OS, not to mention previously discovered bugs that broke the OS that were OS driven. (menu functions, etc.)
These were things that absolutely should have been discovered in any sort of real beta test.
Apple is locked down and the culture around it is too fucking pent-up. I'm tired of the "here's the road to do X function, we are going to keep you away from other ways because it's dangerous.) Not to mention their love to keep you restrained, release a feature that they stopped previously, and then treat it like it's fucking revolutionary.
Really apple? You're going to advertise based on a "Do-not-ring" feature on a phone?!?! REALLY?!
I absolutely despise Apple's smug attitude, especially the more recent bs they're advertising with.
Unfortunately I have an android phone because it's not an iphone and WinPhone isn't waht it used to be.
I'm not technologically retarded either, both solutions just suck, but I don't care enough to develop my own.
for me and my use of a mobile device.
I don't tweet or use FB and any other social network.
I have a tablet for reading books.
If I want to take video or stills, I have a decent POS camera with me most of the time or if I want to get really serious, I'll use my D800.
Plus many of the places I in work won't allow Camera Phones as well.
So FOR ME and ONLY ME, a device that makes calls, send/received texts and has an alarm clock is just about all I need.
This race for 'features' on smartphones is IMHO much like about 50% of the 'features' MS puts into Office. Great headlines but very few people really used them
Convert that to phones, great to brag to your mates, 'my phone can do this' but then quickly gets forgotten and pur into the 'Oh yeah, I used that once...'
category
I'd rather be riding my '63 Triumph T120.
Is Woz still with Apple? I thought he was retired and doing guest appearences on Sitcoms.
Python: 'And then suddenly you have a language which says "we're all stuck with whatever the whiniest coder wants".'
If you compare the latest iPhone to the latest Nokia phone, the Lumia 920, the Lumia comes out on top.
Nokia must have been laughing themselves silly over the last iPhone launch.
WOZ is a nerd who loves tech and things nothing of a horrible technical interface and doesn't give it much thought. Jobs was the one that bridged the divide between nerds and normal people (and not diplomatically either.) I remember the TV remote Woz designed-- technically amazing but no normal person would like it.
Feature creep ruins many apps that were good enough and stable... the iPod took over with LESS features and it continued to have less features for quite a while until they slowly and carefully integrated them so it didn't end up a complex mess. I've seen Andriod and iPhone and the iPhone is still better refined and the software is of better quality the newer Android stuff is getting caught up but I would not say they've surpassed Apple yet. The battery on my Android should last as long as the iPhone but it does not (it is java... more RAM and CPU use.) Android had more features than iPhone from the beginning - because it had an open market of crappy hacked up Apps and the iPhone was and is still walled in.
Because an iPhone isn't a phone.
It's a computer with phone functions.
And a computer that doesn't need tech support looks like this:
http://ask.slashdot.org/story/08/08/23/1926249/a-full-time-2-way-video-link-to-grandparents
'One big button on it, and we push it for you in the factory.'
How long did it take to get an un-tethered jailbreak this time?
Why does that even matter?
Un-tethered just means the jailbreak lasts through a phone reboot. But you know when I reboot my phone? Pretty much never! Only OS updates.
It simply means that on reboot you need to hook to a computer to jailbreak again, it's not like it's at all a problem to use tethered jailbreaks - and they come out pretty quickly.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
my friends pay money for every little thing I download for free
I can just see you hopping around on stage now, going:
"SCREW developers SCREW developers SCREW developers!"
And you wonder why iOS gets all the good stuff.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
android has better privacy controls than iOS. every android app must declare permissions for the services it can use BEFORE it is installed.
The problem is that is a horrifically stupid idea.
No user can POSSIBLY know before they run the app if all of the permissions make sense. Contacts is a great example, at some point it might benefit to look something up from a contact. So you just agree.
Meanwhile on iOS the user is not asked if the app should access contacts until they are using the app and whatever they are doing triggers the request. So they know what the app does, and know EXACTLY what they did to make the app ask for contacts, so they can decide if it makes sense to have them.
Also, if you don't agree on Android generally you just can't use the app because you have to agree to everything (yes I know there are ways around that, not standard though). On iOS I can keep using the app that I've just told has no access to location or contacts, without having to pre-select access teh app should have.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
And that is despite being anal retentive over screening apps.
Probably because a lot of the screening is "We're going to do that, we don't like competitors, so fuck off". Not actually verifying that the code is malware free. Just competition free.
I want my phone to 100% sync my thousands of vcards and calendar entries. Being able to google something once a week or so is a nice add-on. Everything else is iToys - waste of time.
Having had iphones 1-4s, an s2 and a Note 2, I am a) The proverbial fool who gets parted from his money b) Decently qualified to make an honest comparison I agree the people who make it a religious war need to get laid er something. I think Android is winning lately because of +) Customizability. I can lock my photo apps down so my nephews can't accidentally see my donkey porn when I pass em my phone. I have a cheesy 3d carousel desktop with icons that are transparent and not square. My keyboard is my choice. +) Diversity. I can get made fun of for having a phone bigger than my head if I want to. Can have a tactile keyboard if I want to, etc. I still think Apple is the place that sparked the revolution, and has a high place in my esteem for actually innovating and bringing us all closer to The Star Trek. Curious if that will continue? P.S. - Google Play - get some content! 8 )
True we use our standard system and the rest of the world uses metric. At one time we different sized railroad tracks in this country and had to unload/load trains to move freight. Android has a similar problem in that they cannot seem to standardize things. Cases will never be standardized in my opinion. Apple cases (many of them) case be used across the 4/4s platforms.
Both platforms are good, in fact both are great. I chose the iPhone mostly based on battery life. I don't want the larger than pocket sized screen either. (which also effects battery life) The iPhones aluminum and glass case is more durable according to videos, reviews and tests. (which may or may not be reliable)
I haven't spent much on the phone, accessories or apps so price is not a major issue in all honesty. (accessories are very inexpensive and widely available) I paid only 199 for the phone. (there is a misconception that the iPhone is somehow more expensive) Resale value will more than make up for my 2 dollar angry birds app without advertising.
My next phone may be the next Android phone unless Apple innovates again. (they had better to keep their market share) Android fans keep talking about price and free apps. Most of my apps are free. $20 a year in apps doesn't matter either way when I will make up the difference in resale value and cheap accessories. Find a car that has an Andoid integration port and I may be more optimistic about buying Android for playing music. They really need to come up with a standard way to control it from the car or alarm clock or other external device.
When Android first came out it was quite a bit cheaper than the iPhone. I don't believe that is true anymore. (though the perception persists) My friend waited months to get the Jellybean upgrade that was officially supported by Verizon only to have the Netflix app not work properly. (no sound) I don't have these issues with iPhone. I am a geek so I could hack my phone for hours on end but I choose not to. (just make it work and I will talk, surf, etc)
How many iphone 3's are still out there?
Whats interesting about android 2.3 numbers is that new phones are still being sold with 2.3 on them. Why? because a new unlocked phone that has 2.3
sells for as little as $40-50. That may not be a big thought for you but in other countries they just dont have $200 to spend on the latest model. Most android apps will run on 2.3 just fine.
I've found nirvana with Nokia N9. I get root access shell without breaking anything. ssh into the phone. apt-get at leisure. Phone feels great, works a treat as a phone, camera is cool, battery lasts long and I'm not wanting for features or apps. Survived many a fall to tarmac or concrete. Knocking up apps in Qt is a doddle. I know it's not going to last, but for now it's as good as it gets.
Android has a similar problem in that they cannot seem to standardize things. Cases will never be standardized in my opinion
Well yeah thats because they come from different manufacturers.
When Android first came out it was quite a bit cheaper than the iPhone. I don't believe that is true anymore.
My local supermarket has $60 AUD android prepaid phones. Total cost on the contract might be $200 AUD. Can apple match that? I doubt they want to try.
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I don't have a cell phone and I don't envy the users of cell phones, no matter what operating system or model.
I agree, most of my iPhone using friends love their gadgets, they are good, but then for every one of those I probably know someone who's switched to a Android now. Including myself going from a iPhone 4 to a Galaxy S2. The most surprising thing is they point out a better GUI, say it's just as easy to use, and absolutely love the ability to personalise your phone. Remember it wasn't even possible to set the iOS homescreen wallpaper until iOS 4 was released!
So when you press the shift/caps key on an Android on-screen keyboard, the letters on the keys change - which is a delightful feature. iOS, they are always capitals.
Woz understates the problem. Apple has been copying features pioneered on Android for some time now, and anything Apple original is coming out a little half-baked. Note that Siri wasn't an Apple original but a company they bought. Copy and paste, multi-tasking, the notification drawer, it's all better on Android and has been for some time. You couldn't even set a homescreen wallpaper until iOS 4. iOS stopped being good when Apple chases ever more revenue and half-baked sidetracks like Siri and their own maps. They are pouring a lot of effort in to hardware too but perhaps not pushing iOS ahead.
iOS still has it's good points for some users, but generally speaking it's so far behind it's not funny.
After logging in slashdot still does not take you back to the page you were on. It's been that way for 20 years.
i envy - and rave about - anyone who has a nokia 6310i. it's a phone. it makes phone calls. it receives and sends SMS. it has a two **WEEK** battery life (and that's active i.e. switched on 24x7, waiting for incoming calls). it takes a standard nokia phone charger. it weighs 100 grammes, it's slim, and if you really need it, you can use it to connect to the internet with GPRS via bluetooth, to connect a laptop or any other device. if you ever find a nokia 6310i at a market, they're flat-out gone in under an hour. the 2nd-hand market in replacement batteries for them is enormous. oh, and the menu is dead simple and highly intuitive to use.
now. what was the question again? oh yes: who wants the most features on a phone. i don't. if i want something that has internet connectivity, i'll get something that has a built-in 3G modem, is portable, yet has a keyboard.
The entirety of Android is essentially an abstraction. It's built to run on hundreds of different models and form factors with many different drivers, components, etc.
I dont think you have any grasp of what you're talking about. Nothing is irrelevant when you are talking about back porting the latest features to old hardware. The logistics of multiple device implementations and form factors, limitations of hardware, and break-neck pace of new features are not trivial details you can flippantly scoff at....running in circles screaming "abstraction! abstraction! I can't hear you!!!".
Android is an open-source OS that has certain minimum requirements at release. 2 years ago that was (for example) 256MB of RAM and 1GB of internal storage. Nowadays most devices have at least 8GB storage and 1GB of RAM. That's a huge difference. So two years ago hardware manufacturers were told what they needed to do to build a phone that works with Android. Google didn't build the phones for them. Google *is* providing updates -- point fixes and security releases. What's happening is that carriers and manufacturers are not implementing them. The reasons are many why this is so. But it's not just a matter of abstraction or some failure of engineering. That just an overly simplistic narrow view of a myriad of issues. But I suspect this is intentional on your part so that you can just whinge at Google.
So how does abstraction help you fit the new OS that is 1.2GB onto that older device with 1GB Internal storage? It doesn't. Abstraction of hardware is a helpful concept but it doesn't give you some kind of perfect modularity and encapsulation of features. It doesn't eliminate the need for testing, or prevent the existence of edge cases.
But whatever, there's more to it -- but just glancing at your other replies you haven't added anything to the conversation other than "google fail, abstraction!" You are clearly a close minded whiny troll.
Even the cases from the same manufacturer are not standardized. It is one of the reasons Apple has so many more accessories. Now that the Android phones are starting to come with NFC, we have a hope of getting standard accessories on the Android size. With something like the Nexus 4, the NFC could be used to notify the accessory that the phone has been placed on the device. This could trigger bluetooth to make a connection for any data that needs to be passed to/from the accessory while at the same time the wireless charging can charge the phone. With this setup, you don't have to have a perfectly form fitting slot to put the phone into like you do when you use physical connectors.
If this happens for Android, I doubt it will happen until more phones start coming with NFC and wireless charging.
Hmm, my 46 year old eyes can't handle a small phone. I just barely need reading glasses, and rarely use them for anything other than fine print, and never while walking around. Even so, small phones just don't cut it. I'm not going to whip out my reading glasses on a street corner so I can read a text message or email on a puny iPhone screen. I want nothing with less than a 4.5" screen.
What I really want is battery life. I have a GSIII, and it's not bad, fine for a day and a half, maybe 2. You can stretch it out farther if you go to more aggressive power saving settings, but what's the point of that? I want a solid 3-4 day battery and will gladly accept a 50% increase in thickness. I want to be able to forget to stick it on the charger overnight and still have a solid phone the next day. I want my wife to be able to forget two days in a row and still have a phone.
Yea, I know I can buy a bigger battery, but I'm not happy with the aftermarket backs I've seen.
This is a perfect example of an Apple Fanboy. Kvnslash is an iPhone owner, and is "bothered" by the cost of cables. Fanboy jo_ham somehow deciphers "bothered" as "Hate with frothing rage".
I've been soul searching for a long time now. I've found the current system a headache at the least, my death at the worst. It's a simple solution, you don't buy their crap. Don't watch their TV. Get your own interests, until you are such an individual that you become as weird as I am and spend almost every weekend home hiding. Waiting to go a Monday-Friday 7:30am-8:00pm job like me, are completely exhausted, yearn for nothing but more learning, more art, more music, more freedom. Although you can't you have to continue to go along with the system, the money is the controlling factor. The more you have the more freedom you have. I've been saving as much as I can so I can get out of the system as soon as possible, live a good life without working for that money, because well, I will have a lot of it and it literally is the fuel of a free life in the USA. You can burn the fuel in an 8 cylinder, or a 4.
It's a simple equation, get as much money as possible, and live to not burn it but to save it and you could get out of it soon. A $1,000 phone with a $1,200 a year cellular plan? Who the fuck even needs this shit?
Even the cases from the same manufacturer are not standardized
Hardly the fault of the operating system.
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I'm an Android user. I prefer the faster tech enhancements and the being able to do lower level things as a programmer without worrying that if it's not an officially supposed IOS call it may not be usable in the future. With that said I will say Apple forcing their system on the phone companies is impressive.
NFC would be great on Android for payments but we're stuck with cell phone providers deciding what is best. Verizon disabled Google Wallet because they jumped on their own NFC payment scheme ISIS. What pisses me off is I have an Android Nexus - supposedly the flagship smartphone - and a feature was disabled on it. So much for flagships. As far as I know Sprint is the only one still allowing Google Wallet. If Apple ever gets around to supporting NFC I'm sure they won't allow cell providers to disable an Apple payment with NFC.
It was pulled because it was GPL. I realize that the conflict is in the GPL license and not the app store license and that the VLC publishers had the option of violating the GPL, but this doesn't change the fact that the two are incompatible.
Point out some free video players that play multiple formats.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
It may be fun for you to deliberately to not understand what someone meant - it makes you an idiot douchebag to others though. Have fun.
In capitalist USA corporations control the government.
I don't loath the language. I do loathe the Sheldon Coopers here deliberately misunderstanding whatever anyone says that could be interpreted in more than one way but where the meaning is really clear - and they do it ALL THE TIME.
This site is full of that, it sickens me.
In capitalist USA corporations control the government.
...unless they work right.
It was pulled because someone at VLC (an employee of Nokia, hint hint) CLAIMED it violated the GPL. This is patently absurd because of all the other GPL software in the app store, and no restriction on releasing source code exists. The GPL allows binary distributions as long as you also include source on request, so to claim there was nay problem was absurd and to date it's the only app that has ever been pulled because of that interpretation of the GPL.
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True. It is correlation. Not causation. Both the use of Android and non-standard bodies exist in the same set of phones because of the freedom that Google has extended. It doesn't change the fact that if you buy an Android phone, you can expect that it will have fewer accessories available to it because any accessories made will only fit that specific model.
There are three options for Android phone manufacturers.
1) Standardize on a phone body shape - Highly unlikely.
2) Say "too bad" to their customers that want more accessories - What is happening now.
3) Do as I suggested above and use a method that doesn't need matching body shapes to work - What I hope will happen.
I agree. I wanted to replace my old smartphone and had to enter a 2 year contract to get something better. I read reviews and watched videos, etc. Certain phones have larger flaws than others. No one review pointed out all the flaws so you had to keep reading. At some point it wasn't worth my time. I knew that IOS would be updated and would work. Carriers do hate updates. Whey do they want to give you something for nothing when they already have you in a contract?
I am geeky enough to deal with the technical challenges but at some point I just want it to work. (I spend all day fixing other peoples software problems on the PC platform)
I have used "smartphones" for years including Windows CE and Windows Mobile devices from HTC. One executive at my company said something amazingly true about one of those devices. (blue angel) He said it was a great PDA with a poorly thought out phone app added as an afterthought. Three way calling and even normal calling was painful. It wanted to dial people that you didn't intent to call.
Maybe I've been brainwashed or something but I spend almost no time trying to get stuff to work right with my iPhone. That is really convenient when you have lots of things going on in your life.
I am really impressed by the Android OS. It has come a long way. I just don't want to get a device that I'm stuck with for another 2 years that may have a major flaw or get stuck with an old OS. Standardization would help a lot. Make the phones the same size and shape, maybe make 2 or 3 form factors. Make it so it can be docked and work with your car radio or alarm clock. Make them durable with long battery life and make upgrading OS versions easy and appealling to the carriers.
I may be a little older than the average reader here but I'm technically savvy. I just choose to use my skills on other things than my phone. All the hacking Windows phones and older smartphones has made me realize that I don't care for it. (not enough payoff for the time involved)
I like that Apple puts the upgrades out and the carriers don't have to do anything. I'm not an Apple fanboy and never even owned an Apple product until a couple of years ago. One of my biggest things is resale value. I will probably get what I paid for my iPhone 4s when I'm done with it and I like cars that hold their value as well. My old Windows phones were worth less than 10% of what I paid for them when I was done and my Palm Pre was work about 25% of what I paid after subsidies.
Also, do Android phones have to dial to get voicemail? The iPhone gets the voicemessage sent to it and you can listen without calling. (instantly) I thought that Android phones have to 'call' to get voicemail but I'm not sure.
It's a typical geek tendency to see everything in black and white. I have an iPhone 4s and a Samsung galaxy siii. I like the iPhone better but carry both all the time since I have to have to separate work and personal phones. I can easily distinguish between "the iPhone is better" vs "I like the iPhone better"
Too many geeks say the former when they mean the latter (s/iPhone/android as needed) and utterly failing to realize that "I like better" != "is better".
Whatever kind of phone you prefer, are there features you envy the users of some other variety?
I'm an iPhone user but I envy the BlackBerry Balance feature. The ability to completely cordon off work from home is a terrific feature. Far too often I end up accidentally sending work related emails, calendar invites... from my home email.
... that was available for a long time ... a feature that was LICENSED by the (3rd party) developers ... including Nuance.
Or are you really such an ignorant that you think that Samsung/Google invented Swype ... when it was available for the PalmOS before smartphones were even marketed?
The iPhone needs a hardware back button, and Android needs apps which are similar to iMovie and Garageband.
That's all that's missing from either.
Whenever I use my wife's iPhone or iPad the thing I wish for most is a back button. I get so used to it when using my Android phone (Samsung Galaxy II) and Nexus 7 that I get confused when I need to figure out how to go back in iPhone apps. It's done slightly differently in every app and every part of every app and in some places there doesn't seem to be a way to go back at all.
OTOH, I have always loved the hardware design of the iPhones. I love phones which have a metal feel. Even the plastic on the iPhone feels better than the cheap plastic of my own phone. I chose my Android phone based on features rather than look and feel. I've never liked that it's entirely plastic.
I loved my Nexus One because it was a great Android phone (at the time) with a metal feel, but when I upgraded I couldn't find a similar phone.
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"Q: Apple has in the past decade, risen with its iPod, iPhone and iPad as one of the most successful companies in history. Recently, there are increasing doubts about how long the winning streak is still continuing."
"Apple has such high profit margins, is also due to its brand. I am proud that we have such loyal fans. But this loyalty is not given, the needs with the best products are always kept alive and confirmed. Currently we are in my opinion in the smartphone business with the features somewhat behind. Others have caught up. Samsung is a great competitor. But precisely because they are currently making great products." link
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After never ever having used an iPhone, I recently needed to do some testing of a VPN config for a customer, so I got a loaner phone ... iPhone 4, iOS 6.1 ... (actually 6.0, but I did an update :) )
On the upside: I got the VPN up and running, and the UI definitely is running smoothly.
On the downside: The UI feels so completely outdated. I've been using Android since I had my first Google G1, so I know the evolution of Android through the different versions and on different devices, albeit with CyanogenMod on most of them (didn't root my Transformer Prime, but all phones). Personally, I must say that iOS 6 feels less functional than even Android 2.3, much less Jelly Bean. I miss many of the basic functions that even Android 1.5 already had. I don't understand how or why technically inclined people can rave about Apple and the iPhone - at least not if they take an open-minded look at any of the current (or even not so current) Android phones. See how well they can be customized, well outside the arbitrary limits Apple decides to set for their customers...
And I don't even start to talk about the tiny screen, compared to my Nexus 4 or even the SGS2 ... :) (and that didn't get that much better on the iPhone5 ...)
I think the problem with the current iPhone comes down to this: while the software is still excellent, the hardware for the iPhone itself has fallen behind. I see two issues with the current iPhone:
1. The screen is still _too small_ by 2013 standards. The success of the Samsung Galaxy S II (and subsequently S III) shows users do want a wider (by portrait orientation) display screen.
2. The lack of NFC is going to become an issue, because in many parts of the world (especially South Korea, Japan and parts of Europe), NFC is widely used for mobile payment systems and other special "tap to communicate" features.
This is why I think the so-called "iPhone 5S" will likely become just a tad thicker to accommodate an NFC radio/antenna system. Get that, and the iPhone will take back a lot of marketshare now lost to Android.
I guess I'm a bit of an odd case, but I have both an iPhone 5 and a Galaxy S III, and there are things I like and dislike about them both (the battery life and overall polish of the user interface is better on the iPhone, but I love the widgets, customizability, and Google Now on my GS3). I preordered my GS3 as soon as they were announced in 2012, and then I started a new job and they provided me with an iPhone. So far I'm enjoying my two-phone life, and I'm enough of a nerd that nobody is really surprised that I'm the guy who would enjoy that kind of thing.
My local supermarket has $60 AUD android prepaid phones.
Which is essentially a crappier device than the original iPhone, that doesn't make it impressive.
You can't compare a phone that is barely capable of booting, let alone doing anything useful to an iPhone and pretend its the same thing. You can't compare a Galaxy or a Nexus to that $60 phone EITHER.
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the iPhone 4 specifically. My next phone will not be an iPhone specifically because it lacks features I want including a bigger screen (stretching it vertically wasn't good enough), a removable battery, and NFC. I would definitely consider returning (at this point anyway) if the right features were added, say in the iPhone 6, but I'm currently eligible for a new phone and I'm waiting for the Galaxy S4.
I have an iPhone 4S and an HTC Evo 3D running a custom rom... It's easy to say what I want the iPhone to do that my HTC can do, and other's have touched on this quite well. Mostly the file sharing issues between apps, no directory access, and poor bluetooth support for mice... However... One thing I love about my iphone that I wish my HTC was better at is sheer performance. Running benchmarks between the two devices, the raw power of the HTC is faster, it has better hardware, and more ram, but various benchmarking tests don't show this difference. In many aspects, my iPhone is faster than my HTC, in games, UI smoothness, etc. And I think this is more an inherent problem with the android stack of software. (I blame Java/Dalvik whatever google calls it). If android was a fluent and speedy as an iOS device, especially on older hardware, apple would have a serious problem on their hands.
No comments on the ads, but as for fist-bump transfer:
That's handy like crazy.
Otherwise, what do you propose:
1) Send the file via email? First enter in the guy's email. Then the file goes via possibly slow Internet to the cell company's servers, then to your friend's email servers, then to your friend's cell provider, and then to your friend. Both you and the other guy pay mad coin for the wireless Internet usage. And your GB allowance gets used up fast if it's a media file you're transferring.
2) Send via Wifi. Don't know how that's supposed to work. If you're in a totally free wifi zone, you and the other guy get a dymamic IP address. Which both of you need to figure out. Then what? FTP to the other guy's address? SFTP? Samba? Nuts.
3) Share via a microSD card. Copy onto card, then remove and insert card, copy onto device, then remove the card again. Oh, by the way, you did remember to pack a blank microSD card just for file transfers before you left home, right?
4) Bump and transfer.
There are all sorts of places you can use it. For friends. People you just met (exchange vCards). Business associates. Customers.
Of course, people won't believe it's useful until Apple "invents" it.
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Its not all about "features", bells and whistles which windows has always had tons of that crap. Its about ease of use, the gadget working with you, not against you. Facetime is a case in point. It is so simple (no setup required) to Star Trek call ones friends. When an Android users asks me to show them how to do the same I have to search for apps, learn their features...and then something like Skype is mentioned that requires setup and login, blah blah blah. It was the same on the Mac. I could just video chat with my 80 year old mom. I didn't have to ask her to download an app and set it up (like would ever happen). Unfortuantely most non apple users have no idea.
I mostly use my Galaxy Note II for
Listening to music
Games
Read my gmail account at work and on the go
Text (sms and Google chat)
on-demand Maps + GPS
the FT.com app
Browsing the web
And somewhere below all that, there's the 'phone' aspect, at 1-2 calls a week or so.
At least that's what I feel. I've been a long time iPhone user. Got my first iPhone two months after they came on sale, and been using them ever since... ...until late last year.
I've had several Androids "on the side", but none of them felt comfortable to use. Last one was a SonyEricsson from last summer with latest and gratest OS version. It was nice, but still no cigar. It still suffered from the same fragmentation of the UI that all the Androids before it, although to a lesser extent. But still, awkward to use compared to the iPhone.
But before Xmas it was time to upgrade my phone once more and I was thinking about iPhone 5, but decided to give Windows Phone a shot. I got the (now old) Nokia Lumia 800 which only had WP 7.5, as it was cheap and wanted to see where Microsoft had gotten with WP. - I was amazed! - For the first time since buying the very first iPhone, I felt like there was something new to a smartphone. It had gotten smarter and easier to use.
I know the shortcomings of the Lumia 800. No multitasking for one. But I never really used it on iPhones either. It can play music while doing other stuff and receive calls/messages whatever I'm doing, and that's really all I want from a phone's multitasking. Also the Nokia's navigation was really something. All the world for free! And it's as good as any standalone or phone navigation I've used (TomTom, Magellan, Navigo). I also love the AMOLED display! Black is black and white is white and typography makes it easy to read. And you can easily read it in direct sunlight. - But most important of all, the UI is always logical and things are where I expect them to be. Also it feels actually faster to use than the old iPhone 4S.
What can I say. My iPhone feels outdated, and that was done by a phone that has been sitting on the shelves for over 6 months! Ok, the iPhone 5 is newer with some cool gadgets, like the camera. But it's still exactly the same UI as iPhone 4S. And the UI is just outdated. - Or feels like it to me! Also I have to say I haven't owned any newer Samsungs, but some fiddling with them really didn't make them stand out from the rest (of the Androids).
After all that, I'm still sticking to my MacBook for laptop and the iPad 2 is going to be serving the tablet needs for some time to come. But when I do upgrade my tablet, I will give Windows tablets a go. Maybe I'll switch, maybe I'll stay with iPad, don't know before I'll try. - As for laptop (tablet won't do everything I need), I see no reason to go Windows. - And when I upgrade my phone again this year, I'm thinking I'll wait until Nokia gets their second generation WP8 phones out, unless Apple will finally do a full makeover to iOS and not only catch up, but take the lead once more. I don't know what it would be, but it'll have to be something damn awesome!
If all else fails, pull the plug and get out...
The Life is out there...
This site is full of that, it sickens me.
Then leave you fool, or stop letting it bother you. IMO, Life's too short to be annoyed / pissed off all the time. Honestly I was just joking.
"Fuck 'em if they can't take a Joke"
I did mis-read the comment the 1st time through, and then just responded under that interpretation when I realized it could be taken both ways due to the run-on sentence; It wasn't clear which way was meant. No, really, if you're lexing that sentence as you go you don't realize it could be taken an alternate way until the "for free" part that comes later -- It wasn't a deliberate miss-read, it was the only way to read it, temporally.
P.S. Language Nerds existed well before Sheldon Cooper, as did exaggerators such as yourself. Being "sickened" about comments such as these this late in the game seems like a pointless endeavor... That's like being disgusted because gay-bars are full of queers, eh?
Excellent article. Steve Wozniak is right. Five years ago, the iPhone was revolutionary but now it is showing its age when compared to the offerings of competitors like Samsung. What great timing for BlackBerry 10 to debut, when people are getting tired of the same old same old and looking for something new. I can't wait to pick up my new BlackBerry Q10! Always loved the quality and reliability of the BlackBerry phones, and now with BB 10 they've really created an awesome user experience.
How many iPhone users have you seen who use protective cases for their devices?... If they did then they could not show them off, could they?
This site is full of that, it sickens me.
Then leave you fool, or stop letting it bother you. IMO, Life's too short to be annoyed / pissed off all the time. Honestly I was just joking.
I didn't mean to sound as strong as I likely did - it probably seems like I have an issue that actually makes me feel constantly pissed off when on this site.
It's much milder than that.
Also, apologies for misunderstanding your humor. My message however was not meant as direct attack against yours and very much general, not personal - that too might have not been obvious from my post.
I do get annoyed by people who seem to be unable to *not* misunderstand others posts on purpose and then making argument based on that - but not so much it keeps me pissed off. I choose to stay because I get way more good than bad vibes out of this site ;)
"Fuck 'em if they can't take a Joke"
I did mis-read the comment the 1st time through, and then just responded under that interpretation when I realized it could be taken both ways due to the run-on sentence; It wasn't clear which way was meant. No, really, if you're lexing that sentence as you go you don't realize it could be taken an alternate way until the "for free" part that comes later -- It wasn't a deliberate miss-read, it was the only way to read it, temporally.
I hear you. :p
I repeat my apology and swear that it was not intended as personal attack on you but born of frustration from posts that take the issue I complained about into a whole other level
P.S. Language Nerds existed well before Sheldon Cooper, as did exaggerators such as yourself. Being "sickened" about comments such as these this late in the game seems like a pointless endeavor... That's like being disgusted because gay-bars are full of queers, eh?
Oh, being a bi-sexual I can assure gay-bars are not (always anyway) full of queers only ;) :)
Oh, and that Sheldon reference was just something that came into my mind that moment - to actually try not sound as serious as I obviously did.
But may I offer a virtual hand-shake on this? It's clearly not you I have any beef with (and my post did come out sounding much more exaggerator-like than I meant to )
In capitalist USA corporations control the government.
PS. I didn't pick Sheldon Cooper just because of being language nerd but even more importantly because of his lack of social skills and how it affects argumentation.
In capitalist USA corporations control the government.
Woz, as usual, is right. It's great to see a real genius like Woz tell it like it is. He's not afraid to criticize the company he co-founded.
I just ditched Apple for Sansung 2 weeks ago. I had a very hard time deciding between the iPhone 5 and Galaxy S III. However the Samsung does have more going for it, however it isn't because Apple is "falling" behind. It is because most of these things are by Apple design, in that they are purposely doing it in favor of their buisness plan to make more profit as the expense of their clients. Things like MicroSD slot. I bought a 64GB chip from Amazon.ca for 65$, and now have a 80GB smartphone. Care to know what the 64GB iPhone 5 costs? That is your answer as to why this "feature" is not included. You can say the same about iTunes, and the Apple market. The accessories. Everything to do with Apple is built around this idea, that if you make it easy to do it one way you can Monitize, then make it a real pain in the ass or impossible to do it any other way, you can make even more money, even "lock in" loyalty. Even the whole Apple/Google Maps gaff was due to the same policy. Heck I still have 50$ in iTunes money, however for those reasons I choose to break the Apple chains. Why would I continue to give money to a company that continually treats me like that, its crazy. Many are happy to do so however.
Android phones can set themselves up to be wifi hotspots. When I moved out to the middle-of-nowhere okanogan county washington, internet access initially looked too expensive to setup (directional radio antenna had to be purchased, couldn't lease it). But my phone still managed to get a 2g connection. After some phone calls to my service provider I was able to uncap my 2g data limit and bam, internet wherever I'm covered.
My girlfriends iphone (older model) doesn't offer this feature (which actually seems like it would be a pretty obvious feature to include in a wifi / cellular capable device when you think about it) and she sometimes asks me to leave my phone at home so she can finish her projects. That can be a little inconvenient but I have wifi at work I can use if I need to contact someone.
as in title, are the ones that pleased me when i switched to Android this month (after 4.5 years on iPhone)...
Wozniak said he was proud of how loyal Apple fans were to the iPhone
A product to which he contributed nothing. A company from which he is long divorced.
I understand the need for sentimentality in order to soften his criticism, but it is sentimentality. It gets tiresome seeing corporations -- and their ex-founders -- constantly flog these ersatz emotions. His phoniness is at a mild end of the spectrum, of course, compared to rows of low-salaried store employees standing in lines cheering customers...
And yes, I have a bloody iPhone. I'm not "proud" of it, and when I've been told at the Apple store "congratulations" I like to say, "Ehhh, no need. Many things make me happier than your products." That's how to stop a Stepford Clerk in his tracks.