Not really. Until WIndows 95 the majority of people still used DOS apps. WordPrefect 5.1 was used for years in the Legal profession after Windows was everywhere. IMHO what killed WordPerfect was what killed Lotus 123 and that was it was too popular of a DOS program. It was next to impossible for those and many other programs to make the move to a WIMP interface without ticking off their customer base. The Problem was they had two choices. 1. Make the program have all new WIndows user Interface and tick off their old customers. or 2. Keep the Old user interface and have a bad Windows program. That is also the reason that Word Perfect and Lotus never really took off on the Mac Platform. If you have a big customer base and a big ecosystem as well of things like Macros and Templates you are just going to have a nightmare. My company had the same problem we used method one but even then we kept a lot of old keystrokes the same like using F5 instead of CtrlF for search. "You can remap it". How long did it take for all of our DOS users to move? I will let you know when it happens. Even though we ended all support for the DOS version 5 years ago we still get at least one call a year from some one that has not moved even though they have paid support for the last 15 years and have been shipped the WIndows version many times. Microsoft had no real market share with Word on DOS. They killed MultiPlan and then used the Mac as their development platform. Excel was originally an Mac program.
Hell AmigaVision and HyperCard did as wll. It is an old idea and works great for trivial programs. Get to a large program that is say over a thousand lines and then things get iffy.
I do not know him. and everything you say may be true but I am going only by what is in the linked story and that had nothing of value. I do not think one should reward bad journalism with lots of pages hits do you?
I don't know if Anonymous is too blame for this. They are still after all a bunch if vindictive thugs and the Internet version of a street gang but that doesn't make them guilty of this. But just because the door has a cheap lock on it doesn't mean the criminal isn't to blame.
According to Spafford, security experts monitoring open Internet forums learned months ago that Sony was using outdated versions of the Apache Web server software, which "was unpatched and had no firewall installed."
Which version? And what do they mean where not running a firewall? And this was reported on a forum?
You know that I heard that CmdrTaco is running Slashdot on an unpatched Windows 95 box using Boa 1.0 and isn't using a firewall.
Can we not repeat unsubstantiated rumors? I really hope this is just really bad reporting and our that Congress is not taking statements like "It was reported on a forum" as evidence. Now if they have proof that this is true and it was reported on a forum it is interesting but just reported a forum is junk.
Okay, "I blame x for being hacked" One they where not hacked. They where attacked. You hack your computer when you make it do something cool. You can hack device to add a new function. You can even hack your PS3 to run homebrew. Hacking == good activity that is both moral and ethical even if it say Sony doesn't like it. What happened to PSN was not good, moral, or ethical. Good job confusing the two. Second you blame the target of an unethical, illegal, and immoral act for the act?
That is double plus good newspeak citizen, you shall go far. In one sentence you are both connecting hacking with criminal acts that hurts consumers, blaming the target, and badly shifting the blame from the criminal to the target. In one sentence you have just given every big media lawyer a giant box of ammo to make the DMCA stronger, try to repeal that jail-breaking exception, and shutdown console modders. So how much is Sony paying you?
They would get Sony and this happens. Going back to that kid yes you would tell the police that the kid said he was out to get you and that he had egged your house the night before. The police would question of not take them in for questioning. If the kid hid from them they would probably ask for a warrant. Yes it is common sense that if you publicly threaten a company and then that company is attacked you will be publicly blamed. That is common sense.What I find so sad is that a bunch nothing but vindictive thugs is held is such high regard by some people on Slashdot. The thing is that Anon can not even honestly say "they did do it" because they claim that they are not a formal group but are just a random mob on 4chan. If that is true how can they say that somebody in that random mob didn't do it? If that is not true then they have lied about many things in the past and are criminal organisation.
http://www.linphone.org/ You also have XMPP clients that do VOIP as well as VideoChat. Heck Gtalk, MS Messenger, Yahoo Chat and many others will handle most of what you can do with Skype except for calling a phone number which might just be a matter of time if Google doesn't to that already. You know in many ways the phone number system in the was a great geocentric routing system. 1 == long distance, area code would get you to that general area and then the general area was broken down into exchanges roughly 10000 devices. When you think about the fact that at one time each call was a dedicated circuit between two phones the fact that it worked as well as it did was amazing. No wonder they gave us the transistor, Unix, and c. Also explains why they where slow to adopt packet switching.
That really is the issue. Most users don't need a faster cpu.I would ad a few options to your list to include users doing 3d rendering, CAD/CAM, science users but the list is getting smaller and smaller. Most users will be better off with more ram, faster mass storage, going to discrete graphics. For a gamer You can get this CPU and a 5670 or a GTS 450 and have a pretty good gaming rig these days.
Yea if you need a new box today and you are only going to be gaming on a single 22" screen you can build a nice system dirt cheap.
So did Sony break any laws? If not then so? Yes you have to follow laws but I am pretty sure that none apply in this case so??? Also I said Sony has some responsibility but that does not mean that they are not a victim and that the person that took the data isn't a criminal. So using your analogy which doesn't fit at all. The person robbed was the victim of robbery. The person that broke in guilty of theft. They are also not guilty of armed robbery if they take the guns because they are in position of a fire arm while committing a felony. The thief will then probably be charged with sell of stolen goods for selling a gun. Then who ever commits the gun crime will be guilty of murder, attempted murder, depending on what crimes they do. The home owner will not be charged with murder but might get a fine for not securing their firearms... Maybe.. So Sony will get sued for not securing peoples data well enough and have to pay higher insurgence premiums that still makes them a victim and the people that stole that data and possible sold the data criminals. I just don't understand how this is so hard for people to understand.
I once had to work at a secure facility doing computer repair. You do not even want to know what it took even back in the 80s to have real security. I will tell you that a lot of humorless armed guards was involved.
That is what I said. You can be a victim and still have some responsibility. You should have a dead bolt on your door but that doesn't mean that you are a criminal if you get robbed. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
So do you think such a kid with a history of vandalism and making threats to the home owner wouldn't be the first person they would look at?
At this point you are making Sony's case. Here is a really important rule of life. If you threaten people and vandalize there stuff if anything bad happens to them you will be the first one they come looking for. That is just common sense which just seems totally absent from Slashdot today.
So? That doesn't make Sony not a victim. A back with that situation will face higher insurance rates. The criminal act was the breaking what Sony did wasn't a crime.
A. Not someone committing a crime. B. The victim is a minor. Laws treat minors differently. C. you will be sued not sent to jail. The owner didn't commit a crime unless there is a law requiring a fence. FAIL,
No you are wrong. If a back has a bad lock on the vault or a be alarm then there insurance will go up until they fix the issue. They will not face criminal charges. If they broke some federal security rule they may even get fined. Bad security isn't a criminal act theft is. Sony is a victim. Sony's users are victims. Who ever stole the data is a criminal. So no nothing that you said is in fact true. No body or organization is ever under as much obligation to protect property as a thief is to not steal it. I mean really? Think about what you are say it is just so whacked out that it just doesn't make sense.I mean think about!
You can blame a home owner for not putting a good lock on their door but the person that breaks in should still go to jail. Blaming the victim is just lame.
It doesn't have to be high end to be good. The 360 and PS3 are now what five years old? The price of everything has gone down since they came out. A new WII will probably match the 360 for CPU power and have a better GPU than the PS3 and 360. The new WII will probably also have more ram the the 360 or PS3 which developers will love. High end isn't that high anymore. All Nintendo has to do is have a machine that does 1080p well. Take a look at some of the AMD/ATI cards and see just how cheap you can get a good 1080p gaming card.
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But none of that detail is in the linked story.
Not really. Until WIndows 95 the majority of people still used DOS apps. WordPrefect 5.1 was used for years in the Legal profession after Windows was everywhere. IMHO what killed WordPerfect was what killed Lotus 123 and that was it was too popular of a DOS program. It was next to impossible for those and many other programs to make the move to a WIMP interface without ticking off their customer base. The Problem was they had two choices. 1. Make the program have all new WIndows user Interface and tick off their old customers. or
2. Keep the Old user interface and have a bad Windows program.
That is also the reason that Word Perfect and Lotus never really took off on the Mac Platform. If you have a big customer base and a big ecosystem as well of things like Macros and Templates you are just going to have a nightmare.
My company had the same problem we used method one but even then we kept a lot of old keystrokes the same like using F5 instead of CtrlF for search. "You can remap it". How long did it take for all of our DOS users to move? I will let you know when it happens. Even though we ended all support for the DOS version 5 years ago we still get at least one call a year from some one that has not moved even though they have paid support for the last 15 years and have been shipped the WIndows version many times.
Microsoft had no real market share with Word on DOS. They killed MultiPlan and then used the Mac as their development platform. Excel was originally an Mac program.
Hell AmigaVision and HyperCard did as wll. It is an old idea and works great for trivial programs. Get to a large program that is say over a thousand lines and then things get iffy.
I do not know him. and everything you say may be true but I am going only by what is in the linked story and that had nothing of value. I do not think one should reward bad journalism with lots of pages hits do you?
I don't know if Anonymous is too blame for this. They are still after all a bunch if vindictive thugs and the Internet version of a street gang but that doesn't make them guilty of this.
But just because the door has a cheap lock on it doesn't mean the criminal isn't to blame.
According to Spafford, security experts monitoring open Internet forums learned months ago that Sony was using outdated versions of the Apache Web server software, which "was unpatched and had no firewall installed."
Which version?
And what do they mean where not running a firewall? And this was reported on a forum?
You know that I heard that CmdrTaco is running Slashdot on an unpatched Windows 95 box using Boa 1.0 and isn't using a firewall.
Can we not repeat unsubstantiated rumors? I really hope this is just really bad reporting and our that Congress is not taking statements like "It was reported on a forum" as evidence. Now if they have proof that this is true and it was reported on a forum it is interesting but just reported a forum is junk.
Okay, "I blame x for being hacked"
One they where not hacked. They where attacked. You hack your computer when you make it do something cool. You can hack device to add a new function. You can even hack your PS3 to run homebrew.
Hacking == good activity that is both moral and ethical even if it say Sony doesn't like it.
What happened to PSN was not good, moral, or ethical. Good job confusing the two.
Second you blame the target of an unethical, illegal, and immoral act for the act?
That is double plus good newspeak citizen, you shall go far. In one sentence you are both connecting hacking with criminal acts that hurts consumers, blaming the target, and badly shifting the blame from the criminal to the target. In one sentence you have just given every big media lawyer a giant box of ammo to make the DMCA stronger, try to repeal that jail-breaking exception, and shutdown console modders. So how much is Sony paying you?
They would get Sony and this happens. Going back to that kid yes you would tell the police that the kid said he was out to get you and that he had egged your house the night before. The police would question of not take them in for questioning. If the kid hid from them they would probably ask for a warrant. Yes it is common sense that if you publicly threaten a company and then that company is attacked you will be publicly blamed. That is common sense.What I find so sad is that a bunch nothing but vindictive thugs is held is such high regard by some people on Slashdot. The thing is that Anon can not even honestly say "they did do it" because they claim that they are not a formal group but are just a random mob on 4chan. If that is true how can they say that somebody in that random mob didn't do it? If that is not true then they have lied about many things in the past and are criminal organisation.
Interesting but I believe the server was in the US "I could be wrong" so then US laws are probably the ones that apply.
http://www.linphone.org/
You also have XMPP clients that do VOIP as well as VideoChat.
Heck Gtalk, MS Messenger, Yahoo Chat and many others will handle most of what you can do with Skype except for calling a phone number which might just be a matter of time if Google doesn't to that already.
You know in many ways the phone number system in the was a great geocentric routing system. 1 == long distance, area code would get you to that general area and then the general area was broken down into exchanges roughly 10000 devices. When you think about the fact that at one time each call was a dedicated circuit between two phones the fact that it worked as well as it did was amazing. No wonder they gave us the transistor, Unix, and c. Also explains why they where slow to adopt packet switching.
http://www.linphone.org/
That really is the issue. Most users don't need a faster cpu.I would ad a few options to your list to include users doing 3d rendering, CAD/CAM, science users but the list is getting smaller and smaller. Most users will be better off with more ram, faster mass storage, going to discrete graphics.
For a gamer You can get this CPU and a 5670 or a GTS 450 and have a pretty good gaming rig these days.
Yea if you need a new box today and you are only going to be gaming on a single 22" screen you can build a nice system dirt cheap.
Have you ever seen the rules in a lot of the EU? Actually I hear that many places in Africa are worse.
So did Sony break any laws? If not then so? Yes you have to follow laws but I am pretty sure that none apply in this case so??? Also I said Sony has some responsibility but that does not mean that they are not a victim and that the person that took the data isn't a criminal.
So using your analogy which doesn't fit at all.
The person robbed was the victim of robbery.
The person that broke in guilty of theft. They are also not guilty of armed robbery if they take the guns because they are in position of a fire arm while committing a felony.
The thief will then probably be charged with sell of stolen goods for selling a gun.
Then who ever commits the gun crime will be guilty of murder, attempted murder, depending on what crimes they do.
The home owner will not be charged with murder but might get a fine for not securing their firearms... Maybe..
So Sony will get sued for not securing peoples data well enough and have to pay higher insurgence premiums that still makes them a victim and the people that stole that data and possible sold the data criminals. I just don't understand how this is so hard for people to understand.
I once had to work at a secure facility doing computer repair. You do not even want to know what it took even back in the 80s to have real security. I will tell you that a lot of humorless armed guards was involved.
That is what I said. You can be a victim and still have some responsibility. You should have a dead bolt on your door but that doesn't mean that you are a criminal if you get robbed. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
So do you think such a kid with a history of vandalism and making threats to the home owner wouldn't be the first person they would look at?
At this point you are making Sony's case.
Here is a really important rule of life. If you threaten people and vandalize there stuff if anything bad happens to them you will be the first one they come looking for.
That is just common sense which just seems totally absent from Slashdot today.
So? That doesn't make Sony not a victim. A back with that situation will face higher insurance rates. The criminal act was the breaking what Sony did wasn't a crime.
Will this cost Sony money? Yes. Was Sony the target of a criminal act? Yes. Sony is also a victim as are Sony's users.
A. Not someone committing a crime.
B. The victim is a minor. Laws treat minors differently.
C. you will be sued not sent to jail. The owner didn't commit a crime unless there is a law requiring a fence.
FAIL,
But you will not go to jail for it and the criminal that stole your car still will go to jail. FAIL!
Sony and the users are.
No you are wrong. If a back has a bad lock on the vault or a be alarm then there insurance will go up until they fix the issue. They will not face criminal charges. If they broke some federal security rule they may even get fined.
Bad security isn't a criminal act theft is. Sony is a victim. Sony's users are victims. Who ever stole the data is a criminal. So no nothing that you said is in fact true. No body or organization is ever under as much obligation to protect property as a thief is to not steal it. I mean really? Think about what you are say it is just so whacked out that it just doesn't make sense.I mean think about!
You can blame a home owner for not putting a good lock on their door but the person that breaks in should still go to jail.
Blaming the victim is just lame.
It doesn't have to be high end to be good. The 360 and PS3 are now what five years old? The price of everything has gone down since they came out. A new WII will probably match the 360 for CPU power and have a better GPU than the PS3 and 360. The new WII will probably also have more ram the the 360 or PS3 which developers will love. High end isn't that high anymore. All Nintendo has to do is have a machine that does 1080p well. Take a look at some of the AMD/ATI cards and see just how cheap you can get a good 1080p gaming card.