In this case I am talking about end user documentation. I think the problem is that for things like Apache and PHP the end users tend to be developers so developers know what developers need to know. End user software like Gnome is a different kettle of fish.
Writing documentation is hard work and is boring. It is also thankless. The funny thing is that documentation for the most technical programs tends to be very good. PHP, Perl, Apache, Postgres, and MySql all do seem to have good documentation. Gnome not so much. Many other apps also seem to lack good docs. X is just a disaster. It is documented but it is still a pain when things fail they are a huge mess to fix.
Well very few people use dedicated X-Terms anymore. The thing is that what you want can be done just as easily with a netbook/smartbook running Linux or OS/X as it can with Chrome. Why have less functionality than more? The everything is a trade off. The thing is I just don't know much benefit one would gain from this OS. The iPod OS can do everything that Chrome can do with fewer trade offs. So can Android so why have less functionality than less? Chrome OS is just for the benefit of Google's customers. What people don't understand is that the advertisers are Google's customers and we are just their product.
I did the same thing many, many years ago on A linux box that was going to run an accounting system. Left it on for about 20 minutes before I saw how slow it was running.
And why couldn't that $200 netbook run Linux so that I could install applications and Chrome or Firefox to use the net apps? Also just what newbe has their own web server at home? Also just how bad is your smart phone that you think you would have a hard time reading a recipe?
Of course I could also just copy it to my ebook reader if my phone is too hard to read.
Also you do know that "keeping recipes" was one of those things people said they could do with their Apple Is in the late 70s right?
There is nothing that Chrome can do that another OS can't. That is my big complaint about it. You can not install apps so it becomes just a terminal.
I do love that I got modded down as a troll for daring to say that an OS that will not let you install apps is limited. If Microsoft or Apple suggested the same thing I would have gotten at least a 3.
It does sound a lot like it. Truth is that it is probably a lot more like the old Pentium D packages but still kind of interesting. So how many Coretex A8 cores could you fit on one of these?
The real solutions are probably 1. A convoy system with escorts. 2. Take a different route.
The reason they those solutions are not being done is one of cost. It is probably cheaper to risk a ship than to pay for the fuel.
At this point I am tempted to say just sink any boat that goes farther than 50 miles from the coast. I understand that several nations have stripped fished Somali "Russia and Japan I am looking at you" and frankly they should pay some big fines but I doubt that money would end up in anybodies pockets but the same crooks that are running things how.
As too how effective a trained crew would be. Pretty effective. The pirates are using small boats while the ships could carry much heavier and longer ranged weapons. I am sure that a man portable anti-tank missile could take out a pirate attack well outside the range of an AK-47 or RPG. Is it a good idea? Probably not.
This one is very much over the top but other "leaks" they have published where not of secrets but things they claim to be secrets. I would like to see Wikileaks only publish "leaks" that involve government agencies or publicly held companies. And I would like them to redact all personal information from those leaks. I don't have a problem with them publishing pager data from government agencies or even publishing that pagers can be recorded but I don't need to know phone numbers, kids names, or personal data. That is one reason I am not going to look at that data.
You sort of got it. The iPhone's success is from what does which is run a lot of apps. The iPhone's success is because it is easy to write and better yet to sell apps. On other platforms it is easy to put apps up for sale but it is very hard to sell them. I agree the key is what the device can do and not what it can not. Chrome OS can not do a lot of things other platforms can and those platforms can do what Chrome OS can.
I agree with a lot of what you say except that I want to run apps on my computer and not on the web. Just like I can do on my iPod Touch and my Android phone. I feel this is going too far the other way. However computers are NOT over engineered. They are way under engineered. It takes great engineering to make a complex device simple.
It is going in a more Apple way than Apple. Google is going to try to make something that will just work. That isn't a bad thing but they are doing it by limiting what you can do with it. As far as features go what can you do with with this OS you can not do with with Linux, OS/X, or WIndows7 with Chrome installed? Nothing that I can see so far. What can you do with those other OS's? Simple you can write code and run software native. I can install apps! Better yet I can sell apps. I see this a Google's big flop. I could be wrong but I think they blew this one. Now if they just made a good Netbook version of Linux and installed an App store I think it could have been a killer. Maybe Android with an apps store if they would give me a c++ compiler for there java vm ISA and ported QT and GTK.
I do also but we are in the minority. Most people will assume that pages and emails are private. I for one do not need to see pages sent between parents wondering if there children are safe or between husbands and wives wondering if the spouse got out of the tower alive. Yes I know technically that emails are as public as post cards and that pages are not encrypted but most people don't. In this as is many cases Wikileaks is just being a tabloid.
While it is easy to just dismiss this man is it really fair? Yes pager traffic is unencrypted but you could make a claim that the uses have a valid assumption of privacy. Email is also not encrypted, how you like all your email published on the net? For the most part I find Wikileaks to be nothing but tabloid press at it's worst. They have a right to freedom of the press but they are not knight in shinning armor that many people on slashdot hold them up to be. Frankly they seem to miss the difference between secret and private. As to doing what ever appeals to his voters. Is that a bad thing? Isn't that exactly what an elected official should do? Shouldn't they be doing the will of their voters? I am sure that when an elected official does what you think is right you call him responsible. Over all this is just going to be a flame war full of fury and sound with no light.
What we learned from the Hindenburg was. "Don't makes mistakes in front of the press." A lot more people had already dies in plane crashes before the Hindenburg and a lot more after. Not everybody died in the Hindenburg so as crashes go it wasn't that bad. It happened in front of cameras so it really killed the zeppelin. That and planes where faster and cheaper. There really where no lessons for western reactor designers to learn from Chernobyl. They had learned those lessons decades ago without creating such a huge disaster. 1. Don't build graphite moderated power reactors. Power reactors in the west are light water reactors. The difference is that when a light water reactor looses coolant it looses it's moderator so the reaction stops. If you loose the coolant in a graphite moderated reactor the reaction actually speeds up! 2. Don't build a reactor with out a containment building. In the US and as far as I know all other western nations reactors all have containment buildings. The only lesson to be learned from Chernobyl is that you shouldn't ignore every safety regulation in the manual for a test. But anybody that actually brings up Chernobyl in a discussion of nuclear power plants in the US is just using fear and ignorance as a tool to control people. That is the big lesson we can learn from both Chernobyl and the Hindenburg. The press and others love to scare us but they don't really want to inform or educate us.
Put a battery in the mix and you have a power supply with an integrated UPS. Add in a small micro-controller that can connect to Ethernet and you now have a network managed power distribution system. Wouldn't be to hard to allow individuals to toggle power to individual servers.
Actually they run DC data centers at telco voltage levels which is a believe 48 volts. Since you are only sending power hundreds of feet and not miles the losses and wire gauge involved are not that bad. Now if you put the put the power supply at the rack level then you could run 12 volt to the servers. BTW phone exchanges traditionally ran on 48 volt DC so those systems are mature to say the least.
This is interesting to me in a couple of ways. The idea is that it is cheaper to have just a battery instead of a UPS. A UPS will also have to have an inverter. Okay I can see this but they why have it at the server level? Remove the power supply from the server and put it at the rack level? Have a big redundant power supply for each rack and batteries for each rack? Or why not use DC for the entire data center and put the battery at the Data Center level? Seems to me that there may be more than one way to skin this cat and each have it's pluses. If you are using a large number of low load balanced servers where having any one go down isn't a disaster then putting the battery on the server would give you a good trade off. You are probably more likely to have a single server to fail than a more centralized system would but the odds of taking down the system would be tiny. I would love to see a study of the benefits of each type of system with the trade offs.
Actually there is a solution for nuclear waste. It is called fuel reprocessing. With proper reprocessing the waste is much easier to handle. We are not doing it right now because it is cheaper to just let it sit and or to bury it. The problem is most people have been fed a line of manure from the anti nuclear folks. Do you have any idea how much money some of them are making off of book deals, speaking fees, and "donations" that people make to keep the world and the coal companies safe from the evils of nuclear power. If you want a test to see if they are using fear and ignorance as a tool there is a simple one. If they mention Chernobyl when speaking about the safety of western nuclear reactors they are using fear and ignorance. Chernobyl has as many simulates with a western nuclear power plant as the Hindenburg has with a 777. It is impossible for a western reactor to fail like Chernobyl because no Western country would ever allow a commercial graphite moderated reactor with out a containment building to be put into service!
Newspapers have several issues to deal with. 1. Craigslist is killing them. Classified ads had to be a huge income stream. I know that just a single help wanted ad in my market was well over $100 and we are not a big market. 2. Costs. They are expensive to print and deliver. I have not gotten the paper in years. At best they are worth it for the coupons but a web based or even better yet a mobile based way to get them would be much better. Plus my local supermarkets are now using direct mail to send those to me. I hate the format of a paper. It is too big to be easy to read. The pages are huge and most of it I just don't care about. The one thing I have to say that I miss is local news but I get that from a website now. Now here is what I wonder. How much news comes through Google? I tend to just go to CNN.com or tcpalm.com to get my news. I almost never search for news. I doubt that I will head to Bing anytime soon so yes I think this is all going to be a disaster. Will Microsoft be willing to pay everybody to jump to Bing? And will a few hold outs make some big money being the news source on Google and also being on Bing? Seems to me that is the risk they news services that do this run.
True but there is intent. I will sell these crappy chips make some extra money and no one will ever know is fraud. I will take money from an other government to sell these chips that will cause ships to sink is treason.
Interesting so it is more offensive to make a reference to race than to call a person an idiot? It is so offensive that it should be censored? I know people that find flag burning extremely offensive. So should that be banned? Frankly I find calling Bush an idiot to be pretty offensive because it is insulting to him personally and demeaning to the people that voted for him. I also find the image of Michelle Obama extremely offensive. She isn't an elected official, she seems like a very pleasant and intelligent woman, and I know of nothing evil that she has done. I think the spouses and the children of elected officials should be off limits for attacks. Frankly I find a lot of the attacks on President Obama also offensive and I didn't vote for him. The thing is that this is parody and political free speech. Yes the person making statement is not anybody I would want to know and the statement it self is extremely ugly to me, it is still political free speech. Political free speech must be given the highest protection under the law. It has a much higher level of protection than commercial or entertainment free speech in the US. Google is a private company so it is completely legal for them to censor and if they want to act as a gatekeeper then so be it. However if they remove some results then any results they don't remove they are endorsing and that has some really big implications. They in fact could be held responsible for results returned like torrents or porn. BTW freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from responsibility. It is perfectly legal, and IMHO to feel that the idiot that posted that picture is a complete waste of oxygen and to not what to do bussiness with, speak with, or be in the same room with him or her. Yea and I called him an idiot and if he is offended then good.
Nope. It is fraud at best. You would have to show intent beyond greed for treason. Also fraud will be much easier to prove in court and get a conviction for.
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In this case I am talking about end user documentation. I think the problem is that for things like Apache and PHP the end users tend to be developers so developers know what developers need to know.
End user software like Gnome is a different kettle of fish.
Writing documentation is hard work and is boring. It is also thankless.
The funny thing is that documentation for the most technical programs tends to be very good. PHP, Perl, Apache, Postgres, and MySql all do seem to have good documentation.
Gnome not so much. Many other apps also seem to lack good docs. X is just a disaster. It is documented but it is still a pain when things fail they are a huge mess to fix.
Well very few people use dedicated X-Terms anymore. The thing is that what you want can be done just as easily with a netbook/smartbook running Linux or OS/X as it can with Chrome. Why have less functionality than more? The everything is a trade off. The thing is I just don't know much benefit one would gain from this OS. The iPod OS can do everything that Chrome can do with fewer trade offs. So can Android so why have less functionality than less? Chrome OS is just for the benefit of Google's customers. What people don't understand is that the advertisers are Google's customers and we are just their product.
I did the same thing many, many years ago on A linux box that was going to run an accounting system. Left it on for about 20 minutes before I saw how slow it was running.
And why couldn't that $200 netbook run Linux so that I could install applications and Chrome or Firefox to use the net apps?
Also just what newbe has their own web server at home?
Also just how bad is your smart phone that you think you would have a hard time reading a recipe?
Of course I could also just copy it to my ebook reader if my phone is too hard to read.
Also you do know that "keeping recipes" was one of those things people said they could do with their Apple Is in the late 70s right?
There is nothing that Chrome can do that another OS can't. That is my big complaint about it. You can not install apps so it becomes just a terminal.
I do love that I got modded down as a troll for daring to say that an OS that will not let you install apps is limited. If Microsoft or Apple suggested the same thing I would have gotten at least a 3.
It does sound a lot like it. Truth is that it is probably a lot more like the old Pentium D packages but still kind of interesting.
So how many Coretex A8 cores could you fit on one of these?
The real solutions are probably
1. A convoy system with escorts.
2. Take a different route.
The reason they those solutions are not being done is one of cost. It is probably cheaper to risk a ship than to pay for the fuel.
At this point I am tempted to say just sink any boat that goes farther than 50 miles from the coast. I understand that several nations have stripped fished Somali "Russia and Japan I am looking at you" and frankly they should pay some big fines but I doubt that money would end up in anybodies pockets but the same crooks that are running things how.
As too how effective a trained crew would be. Pretty effective. The pirates are using small boats while the ships could carry much heavier and longer ranged weapons. I am sure that a man portable anti-tank missile could take out a pirate attack well outside the range of an AK-47 or RPG. Is it a good idea? Probably not.
This one is very much over the top but other "leaks" they have published where not of secrets but things they claim to be secrets.
I would like to see Wikileaks only publish "leaks" that involve government agencies or publicly held companies. And I would like them to redact all personal information from those leaks.
I don't have a problem with them publishing pager data from government agencies or even publishing that pagers can be recorded but I don't need to know phone numbers, kids names, or personal data. That is one reason I am not going to look at that data.
You sort of got it.
The iPhone's success is from what does which is run a lot of apps.
The iPhone's success is because it is easy to write and better yet to sell apps.
On other platforms it is easy to put apps up for sale but it is very hard to sell them.
I agree the key is what the device can do and not what it can not. Chrome OS can not do a lot of things other platforms can and those platforms can do what Chrome OS can.
I agree with a lot of what you say except that I want to run apps on my computer and not on the web. Just like I can do on my iPod Touch and my Android phone.
I feel this is going too far the other way. However computers are NOT over engineered. They are way under engineered. It takes great engineering to make a complex device simple.
It is going in a more Apple way than Apple. Google is going to try to make something that will just work. That isn't a bad thing but they are doing it by limiting what you can do with it.
As far as features go what can you do with with this OS you can not do with with Linux, OS/X, or WIndows7 with Chrome installed?
Nothing that I can see so far.
What can you do with those other OS's? Simple you can write code and run software native. I can install apps! Better yet I can sell apps.
I see this a Google's big flop. I could be wrong but I think they blew this one.
Now if they just made a good Netbook version of Linux and installed an App store I think it could have been a killer. Maybe Android with an apps store if they would give me a c++ compiler for there java vm ISA and ported QT and GTK.
I do also but we are in the minority. Most people will assume that pages and emails are private. I for one do not need to see pages sent between parents wondering if there children are safe or between husbands and wives wondering if the spouse got out of the tower alive.
Yes I know technically that emails are as public as post cards and that pages are not encrypted but most people don't. In this as is many cases Wikileaks is just being a tabloid.
Big deal I was doing all that back in 86 with my Amiga 1000 with a 2 MB starboard off of floppies no less.
While it is easy to just dismiss this man is it really fair?
Yes pager traffic is unencrypted but you could make a claim that the uses have a valid assumption of privacy. Email is also not encrypted, how you like all your email published on the net?
For the most part I find Wikileaks to be nothing but tabloid press at it's worst. They have a right to freedom of the press but they are not knight in shinning armor that many people on slashdot hold them up to be. Frankly they seem to miss the difference between secret and private.
As to doing what ever appeals to his voters. Is that a bad thing? Isn't that exactly what an elected official should do? Shouldn't they be doing the will of their voters? I am sure that when an elected official does what you think is right you call him responsible. Over all this is just going to be a flame war full of fury and sound with no light.
I have to say that I keep thinking that Solaris is the ideal OS for a NAS.
Then do it and become rich.
Actually the solution is for the person doing the posting to cross post in both towns.
What we learned from the Hindenburg was. "Don't makes mistakes in front of the press."
A lot more people had already dies in plane crashes before the Hindenburg and a lot more after. Not everybody died in the Hindenburg so as crashes go it wasn't that bad. It happened in front of cameras so it really killed the zeppelin.
That and planes where faster and cheaper.
There really where no lessons for western reactor designers to learn from Chernobyl. They had learned those lessons decades ago without creating such a huge disaster.
1. Don't build graphite moderated power reactors. Power reactors in the west are light water reactors. The difference is that when a light water reactor looses coolant it looses it's moderator so the reaction stops. If you loose the coolant in a graphite moderated reactor the reaction actually speeds up!
2. Don't build a reactor with out a containment building. In the US and as far as I know all other western nations reactors all have containment buildings.
The only lesson to be learned from Chernobyl is that you shouldn't ignore every safety regulation in the manual for a test.
But anybody that actually brings up Chernobyl in a discussion of nuclear power plants in the US is just using fear and ignorance as a tool to control people.
That is the big lesson we can learn from both Chernobyl and the Hindenburg. The press and others love to scare us but they don't really want to inform or educate us.
Put a battery in the mix and you have a power supply with an integrated UPS. Add in a small micro-controller that can connect to Ethernet and you now have a network managed power distribution system. Wouldn't be to hard to allow individuals to toggle power to individual servers.
Actually they run DC data centers at telco voltage levels which is a believe 48 volts. Since you are only sending power hundreds of feet and not miles the losses and wire gauge involved are not that bad. Now if you put the put the power supply at the rack level then you could run 12 volt to the servers.
BTW phone exchanges traditionally ran on 48 volt DC so those systems are mature to say the least.
This is interesting to me in a couple of ways.
The idea is that it is cheaper to have just a battery instead of a UPS. A UPS will also have to have an inverter.
Okay I can see this but they why have it at the server level?
Remove the power supply from the server and put it at the rack level? Have a big redundant power supply for each rack and batteries for each rack?
Or why not use DC for the entire data center and put the battery at the Data Center level?
Seems to me that there may be more than one way to skin this cat and each have it's pluses. If you are using a large number of low load balanced servers where having any one go down isn't a disaster then putting the battery on the server would give you a good trade off. You are probably more likely to have a single server to fail than a more centralized system would but the odds of taking down the system would be tiny.
I would love to see a study of the benefits of each type of system with the trade offs.
Actually there is a solution for nuclear waste.
It is called fuel reprocessing.
With proper reprocessing the waste is much easier to handle. We are not doing it right now because it is cheaper to just let it sit and or to bury it.
The problem is most people have been fed a line of manure from the anti nuclear folks. Do you have any idea how much money some of them are making off of book deals, speaking fees, and "donations" that people make to keep the world and the coal companies safe from the evils of nuclear power.
If you want a test to see if they are using fear and ignorance as a tool there is a simple one.
If they mention Chernobyl when speaking about the safety of western nuclear reactors they are using fear and ignorance.
Chernobyl has as many simulates with a western nuclear power plant as the Hindenburg has with a 777.
It is impossible for a western reactor to fail like Chernobyl because no Western country would ever allow a commercial graphite moderated reactor with out a containment building to be put into service!
Newspapers have several issues to deal with.
1. Craigslist is killing them. Classified ads had to be a huge income stream. I know that just a single help wanted ad in my market was well over $100 and we are not a big market.
2. Costs. They are expensive to print and deliver.
I have not gotten the paper in years. At best they are worth it for the coupons but a web based or even better yet a mobile based way to get them would be much better. Plus my local supermarkets are now using direct mail to send those to me.
I hate the format of a paper. It is too big to be easy to read. The pages are huge and most of it I just don't care about.
The one thing I have to say that I miss is local news but I get that from a website now.
Now here is what I wonder. How much news comes through Google? I tend to just go to CNN.com or tcpalm.com to get my news. I almost never search for news. I doubt that I will head to Bing anytime soon so yes I think this is all going to be a disaster. Will Microsoft be willing to pay everybody to jump to Bing? And will a few hold outs make some big money being the news source on Google and also being on Bing?
Seems to me that is the risk they news services that do this run.
True but there is intent.
I will sell these crappy chips make some extra money and no one will ever know is fraud.
I will take money from an other government to sell these chips that will cause ships to sink is treason.
Interesting so it is more offensive to make a reference to race than to call a person an idiot? It is so offensive that it should be censored?
I know people that find flag burning extremely offensive. So should that be banned?
Frankly I find calling Bush an idiot to be pretty offensive because it is insulting to him personally and demeaning to the people that voted for him.
I also find the image of Michelle Obama extremely offensive. She isn't an elected official, she seems like a very pleasant and intelligent woman, and I know of nothing evil that she has done. I think the spouses and the children of elected officials should be off limits for attacks.
Frankly I find a lot of the attacks on President Obama also offensive and I didn't vote for him.
The thing is that this is parody and political free speech. Yes the person making statement is not anybody I would want to know and the statement it self is extremely ugly to me, it is still political free speech. Political free speech must be given the highest protection under the law. It has a much higher level of protection than commercial or entertainment free speech in the US. Google is a private company so it is completely legal for them to censor and if they want to act as a gatekeeper then so be it. However if they remove some results then any results they don't remove they are endorsing and that has some really big implications. They in fact could be held responsible for results returned like torrents or porn.
BTW freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from responsibility. It is perfectly legal, and IMHO to feel that the idiot that posted that picture is a complete waste of oxygen and to not what to do bussiness with, speak with, or be in the same room with him or her. Yea and I called him an idiot and if he is offended then good.
Nope. It is fraud at best. You would have to show intent beyond greed for treason.
Also fraud will be much easier to prove in court and get a conviction for.