I don't care if vi, emacs, picco or my favorite joe are installed. Those are in the command line and you never know that they are there most of the time. First thing I do on a new Linux system is install joe just because I don't want to take the time to learn vi and or emacs. In the case of emacs it is a case of learning it again. Extra libraries? Support for old hardware? Those are total non issues for most end users. If everything works they will not care. As to codecs and Linux. I run into issues with Windows and codecs as well. Ubuntu as far as I can tell does a better job then Windows with codecs.
And when you install Ubuntu and click on a video file a player DOES start right out of the box. Again I use both Windows and Linux. They are differn't but except for games I tend to use Linux because it works better.
Really asking what site you think is going to be taken down next by some government agency seems like fear mongering in it's self. Most take down notices have come not from law enforcement but from companies not the government.
The vast majority of these are civil actions.
Isn't this heading into the tin foil hats and black helicopter area?
"Imagine for a minute if Windows shipped with 12 text editors and 6 video players, and on and on as Linux does." Okay I will bite. Windows ships with at least three editors. You have notepad which is really kind of useless, edit which is the old DOS 5 editor, and Wordpad. Many technical Windows users will then add on notepad++ and maybe Html-toolkit or some other good editor. It doesn't take too long for most Windows users to install iTunes, which then installs Quicktime, then some will end up with Real Player, and then VLC... So you then have a few video players. And editor. That really isn't a problem with Linux. Now could the default install just install say Gedit for Gnome or Kate for KDE? Sure. But for KDE I would want Kate and Kedit. Kedit is lighter and faster and Kate is more powerful. Kind of like NotePad and WordPad.
The Simple truth is that having extra editors and video players just isn't a big deal and for most people it really isn't a problem. The problem is when things need fiddling to work. Ubuntu has come a long way with codecs and flash but wireless is still less than stellar. I had wireless working on my notebook before I upgraded to the latest Ubuntu and now it doesn't want to connect to my wap. That is a problem. But if you really think that 12 editors and six video players is a problem then just fork ubuntu or fedora and make a simple default distro. If enough people agree with you they will beat a path to your door.
Maybe but maybe not. Most smart phones don't use WindowsXP "I don't know of any that use an X86" and people do buy software for those. If used a good Linux distro and then provided repositories than you would have your software. A software package system that worked like iTunes would be an Ideal system. Provide lost of free and pay software from an easy to use online store and you would have a great business model. Steam shows that it already works for games. It should work just fine for this as well. Of course this chipset could also be the heart of a new iPhone/iPod Touch as well.
Well I have never snorted any coke in my life. And that lovely myth of finding some magical plant... What is there average life span? 30? 40? maybe 45 years? Thanks but I will keep my modern technology. What you don't get is that I think they should be given a choice and not locked in some preserve.
"You accuse people who wish to have these tribes remain isolated of arrogance. But aren't you being arrogant yourself in assuming that the Western way of life is superior." Yep I think that knowledge is better than ignorance. I think keeping people in a persevere like you would keep a rare fern or bird is arrogance. And I think giving people a choice is a good thing. Other groups have chosen to not adopt all the trappings of modern society. The Amish come to mind.
"your brain-toasting electricity, your cancer-causing RF, and -- more to the relevant point -- your forest-leveling logging industry." If you think electricity roasts your brain and rf causes cancer why are you posting on Slashdot? Unless you have a difference engine using TCP/IP over carrier pigeon you have exposed yourself to those "dangers". You think nature is safe and pretty. Then as Erwin said, "Sharks are natural, go hug one".
Do I have my friends and family with me? Can I go back if I choose? Can I take anything I learn back with me? Heck yes send me with a library card, digital camera, and a scanner please.
"Help THEM out before you boldly take your morals to where no man has gone before." Except they are men and women.
They really are just like us. As to the rest of you statements. Yep things in some places really do suck. Those also need to be fixed. As I have said time and time again. I would like to seem them offered a choice and that choice be respected.
Nature is deadly and uncaring. We think think Nature is beautiful only because we have tamed it. Smallpox, tornadoes, and starving to death are all natural and none of the are beautiful. Maybe a tornado but only when our technology makes us safe.
"these tribes have no immunity to a number of otherwise mild diseases, so contact often leads to deaths (smallpox, flu, etc)." 1. Smallpox isn't mild. 2. Smallpox kills a big percentage of whoever gets it. 3. Smallpox only exists in two labs. Our evil technology has made it extinct in the wild... Thank goodness.
Well I am a member of one of the tribes in North America. If I had a choice of living like some of my ancestors did before contact with Europeans or living like I do now. I will take now. Maybe that is why I find it so offensive to threat these people like children. They have just as potental as you or I do. There children could walk on Mars or cure AIDs. If they have the opportunity to choose a different way of life.
Well things change. As I said if it is there informed choice then I am fine with that. The idea that they couldn't "handle" the modern world I find insulting.
"but at least they probably have strong family units and a good sense of belonging in their tribe. In today's modern world, we all live in tightly packed areas, but hardly know anyone around us. It can end up being a very lonely existence." That is I am afraid a choice that to many people make.
I don't even see why they need to integrate with our society. There is good things that tech brings as well as bad. I just don't see how not offering them a chance to even learn about the planet they live one is a good thing. Since when have we on Slashdot ever went with the ignorance is bliss ideology?
ummm... Us a bigger font? A bigger font at high resolution looks better and is easier to read than a small font on a lower resolution screen. So just pick a font that would be the same size as it would be on a lower resolution screen.
"Of your "Yes" points, the only one I'm sad to not be able to do is the medicine one. However, maybe they know about medicines we only dream of." Yea right sure they do... The myth of the noble enlightened savage. Life before technology was short brutal and pretty dull. Yes they mow know of some plant that may have some medical benefits but that is just a maybe.
As I said it seems like the burden of the white man V 2.0 to me.
So they are going to be "protected" from contamination. Yes I know that many tribes have suffered when the ran into civilized peoples but I wonder how they would feel about it if they knew. Yes your child could have been saved with just a few pills but we didn't want to contaminate you. Yes you could see what some of the lights in the sky really do look like. You could meet people from far across the sea and you two could fly through the air. But we don't want to contaminate you.
I wonder if they where given a choice what they would decide? Maybe it is wrong to not give them the choice.
Because that is considered "private" bandwidth. It is by subscription only. Just like satellite TV and radio. This seems to be trying to create a "broadcast" style of internet access. How they expect to pay for it I have no idea. The only thing I can think of is a pretty ugly idea and that is ad insertion. The free ISP will put extra adds on websites and suck. ewwwwwwww.
"Such material isn't protected speech. I think it should be, but there you go: it's hardly surprising that the FCC doesn't want it on a freely-accessible broadcast network." And I don't think it should be. I always felt that freedom of speech had a lot more to do with political statements than porn. Of course in some countries in the EU it is totally reversed. You can put out just about anything sexual but you can not publish unpopular political ideas.
That is why we have a democracy. Eventually the people will decide what is right and wrong.
In this case I don't know if "Free" internet is such a great idea or not. I don't know if the filtering is technically possible.
Sorry but I am one of the old farts. Yes Win95 was a big deal. I was so excited when it came out. But like every program it did suck. Win 95 sucked but it sucked less than win 3.1 and dos. Win 98 sucked but is sucked less than Win 95. Win Me sucked... It just plain sucked. Win2k sucked but it sucked a lot less than Windows 98, XP was W2k with a Fisher Price look and feel but people wrote games that worked on it so it sucked less than W2K for games. Vista..... Well Vista like ME just doesn't seem to suck less than XP....
All operating systems suck. The goal is that each version should suck less.
You left out drive a thousand miles and or wait six months. Snow boarding looks like a lot of fun but since I am in South Florida and it is May this seems a lot more practical.
I never said that Nintendo wasn't producing hit games. Differn't kinds of games are selling well on the Wii and third party providers are not yet supplying them.
Also take a look at the numbers. * Xbox 360: software sales ratio: 7.5 * Wii: software sales ratio: 5.3 * PS3: software sales ratio: 4.6 The Xbox has a lot more titles available for it so it is logical that they have more games being sold per console.
I suggest you read your own link. "The real takeaway from this data is that console owners are growing their software library no matter which console they own."
I think that is A lot of wishful thinking. Yes Nintendo produces the best games for the Wii right now. I know a few Wii owners. Most all of them have GH3. Most of them have Mario Galaxy. One of them is a 35 year old mother of three. She has finished it all ready. Her and her kids stayed up late many nights finishing it. A lot of them have Mariokart. Many more want it but they can not get. And a BIG winner is Wii fit.
If you are a publisher you may have a big problem with competing with Nintendo. They are producing some great games that are smash hits.
The real problem I see with the Wii and third party games is simply that most of them are just not very good. The number of adults and more importantly women buying Wiis and games just blows my mind. When I get asked by a mother of three about Mario Galaxy and where she can find Mario kart all I can say is Nintendo has opened up a huge new market.
The game publishers better start thinking about the target audience. GTA and FPS are probably not going to be big winners on the Wii.
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I don't care if vi, emacs, picco or my favorite joe are installed.
Those are in the command line and you never know that they are there most of the time. First thing I do on a new Linux system is install joe just because I don't want to take the time to learn vi and or emacs. In the case of emacs it is a case of learning it again.
Extra libraries? Support for old hardware? Those are total non issues for most end users. If everything works they will not care.
As to codecs and Linux. I run into issues with Windows and codecs as well. Ubuntu as far as I can tell does a better job then Windows with codecs.
And when you install Ubuntu and click on a video file a player DOES start right out of the box.
Again I use both Windows and Linux. They are differn't but except for games I tend to use Linux because it works better.
Really asking what site you think is going to be taken down next by some government agency seems like fear mongering in it's self.
Most take down notices have come not from law enforcement but from companies not the government.
The vast majority of these are civil actions.
Isn't this heading into the tin foil hats and black helicopter area?
"Imagine for a minute if Windows shipped with 12 text editors and 6 video players, and on and on as Linux does."
Okay I will bite.
Windows ships with at least three editors. You have notepad which is really kind of useless, edit which is the old DOS 5 editor, and Wordpad.
Many technical Windows users will then add on notepad++ and maybe Html-toolkit or some other good editor.
It doesn't take too long for most Windows users to install iTunes, which then installs Quicktime, then some will end up with Real Player, and then VLC...
So you then have a few video players. And editor. That really isn't a problem with Linux.
Now could the default install just install say Gedit for Gnome or Kate for KDE? Sure. But for KDE I would want Kate and Kedit. Kedit is lighter and faster and Kate is more powerful. Kind of like NotePad and WordPad.
The Simple truth is that having extra editors and video players just isn't a big deal and for most people it really isn't a problem.
The problem is when things need fiddling to work. Ubuntu has come a long way with codecs and flash but wireless is still less than stellar. I had wireless working on my notebook before I upgraded to the latest Ubuntu and now it doesn't want to connect to my wap.
That is a problem.
But if you really think that 12 editors and six video players is a problem then just fork ubuntu or fedora and make a simple default distro. If enough people agree with you they will beat a path to your door.
Maybe but maybe not.
Most smart phones don't use WindowsXP "I don't know of any that use an X86" and people do buy software for those.
If used a good Linux distro and then provided repositories than you would have your software.
A software package system that worked like iTunes would be an Ideal system.
Provide lost of free and pay software from an easy to use online store and you would have a great business model. Steam shows that it already works for games.
It should work just fine for this as well.
Of course this chipset could also be the heart of a new iPhone/iPod Touch as well.
Yea if you are boycotting Chiquita you dang well better be boycott Bayer, BASF, Mitsubishi, and Volkswagen to name just a few.
Well I have never snorted any coke in my life.
And that lovely myth of finding some magical plant... What is there average life span? 30? 40? maybe 45 years?
Thanks but I will keep my modern technology.
What you don't get is that I think they should be given a choice and not locked in some preserve.
"You accuse people who wish to have these tribes remain isolated of arrogance. But aren't you being arrogant yourself in assuming that the Western way of life is superior."
Yep I think that knowledge is better than ignorance. I think keeping people in a persevere like you would keep a rare fern or bird is arrogance. And I think giving people a choice is a good thing.
Other groups have chosen to not adopt all the trappings of modern society. The Amish come to mind.
"your brain-toasting electricity, your cancer-causing RF, and -- more to the relevant point -- your forest-leveling logging industry."
If you think electricity roasts your brain and rf causes cancer why are you posting on Slashdot? Unless you have a difference engine using TCP/IP over carrier pigeon you have exposed yourself to those "dangers".
You think nature is safe and pretty. Then as Erwin said, "Sharks are natural, go hug one".
Do I have my friends and family with me? Can I go back if I choose? Can I take anything I learn back with me?
Heck yes send me with a library card, digital camera, and a scanner please.
"Help THEM out before you boldly take your morals to where no man has gone before."
Except they are men and women.
They really are just like us.
As to the rest of you statements. Yep things in some places really do suck. Those also need to be fixed.
As I have said time and time again. I would like to seem them offered a choice and that choice be respected.
Nature is deadly and uncaring.
We think think Nature is beautiful only because we have tamed it.
Smallpox, tornadoes, and starving to death are all natural and none of the are beautiful. Maybe a tornado but only when our technology makes us safe.
"these tribes have no immunity to a number of otherwise mild diseases, so contact often leads to deaths (smallpox, flu, etc)."
1. Smallpox isn't mild.
2. Smallpox kills a big percentage of whoever gets it.
3. Smallpox only exists in two labs. Our evil technology has made it extinct in the wild... Thank goodness.
I think you probably mean chickenpox.
Well I am a member of one of the tribes in North America. If I had a choice of living like some of my ancestors did before contact with Europeans or living like I do now. I will take now.
Maybe that is why I find it so offensive to threat these people like children. They have just as potental as you or I do. There children could walk on Mars or cure AIDs. If they have the opportunity to choose a different way of life.
Well things change. As I said if it is there informed choice then I am fine with that.
The idea that they couldn't "handle" the modern world I find insulting.
"but at least they probably have strong family units and a good sense of belonging in their tribe. In today's modern world, we all live in tightly packed areas, but hardly know anyone around us. It can end up being a very lonely existence."
That is I am afraid a choice that to many people make.
I don't even see why they need to integrate with our society. There is good things that tech brings as well as bad.
I just don't see how not offering them a chance to even learn about the planet they live one is a good thing.
Since when have we on Slashdot ever went with the ignorance is bliss ideology?
If that really is their choice then that is fine.
Of course a logging camp probably isn't the high point of civilized life.
ummm... Us a bigger font?
A bigger font at high resolution looks better and is easier to read than a small font on a lower resolution screen.
So just pick a font that would be the same size as it would be on a lower resolution screen.
"Of your "Yes" points, the only one I'm sad to not be able to do is the medicine one. However, maybe they know about medicines we only dream of."
Yea right sure they do...
The myth of the noble enlightened savage.
Life before technology was short brutal and pretty dull. Yes they mow know of some plant that may have some medical benefits but that is just a maybe.
As I said it seems like the burden of the white man V 2.0 to me.
So they are going to be "protected" from contamination.
Yes I know that many tribes have suffered when the ran into civilized peoples but I wonder how they would feel about it if they knew.
Yes your child could have been saved with just a few pills but we didn't want to contaminate you.
Yes you could see what some of the lights in the sky really do look like.
You could meet people from far across the sea and you two could fly through the air.
But we don't want to contaminate you.
I wonder if they where given a choice what they would decide? Maybe it is wrong to not give them the choice.
Because that is considered "private" bandwidth. It is by subscription only. Just like satellite TV and radio.
This seems to be trying to create a "broadcast" style of internet access.
How they expect to pay for it I have no idea. The only thing I can think of is a pretty ugly idea and that is ad insertion. The free ISP will put extra adds on websites and suck.
ewwwwwwww.
"Such material isn't protected speech. I think it should be, but there you go: it's hardly surprising that the FCC doesn't want it on a freely-accessible broadcast network."
And I don't think it should be.
I always felt that freedom of speech had a lot more to do with political statements than porn.
Of course in some countries in the EU it is totally reversed. You can put out just about anything sexual but you can not publish unpopular political ideas.
That is why we have a democracy. Eventually the people will decide what is right and wrong.
In this case I don't know if "Free" internet is such a great idea or not. I don't know if the filtering is technically possible.
Sorry but I am one of the old farts. Yes Win95 was a big deal. I was so excited when it came out. But like every program it did suck.
Win 95 sucked but it sucked less than win 3.1 and dos.
Win 98 sucked but is sucked less than Win 95.
Win Me sucked... It just plain sucked.
Win2k sucked but it sucked a lot less than Windows 98,
XP was W2k with a Fisher Price look and feel but people wrote games that worked on it so it sucked less than W2K for games.
Vista.....
Well Vista like ME just doesn't seem to suck less than XP....
All operating systems suck. The goal is that each version should suck less.
You left out drive a thousand miles and or wait six months.
Snow boarding looks like a lot of fun but since I am in South Florida and it is May this seems a lot more practical.
I never said that Nintendo wasn't producing hit games.
Differn't kinds of games are selling well on the Wii and third party providers are not yet supplying them.
Also take a look at the numbers.
* Xbox 360: software sales ratio: 7.5
* Wii: software sales ratio: 5.3
* PS3: software sales ratio: 4.6
The Xbox has a lot more titles available for it so it is logical that they have more games being sold per console.
I suggest you read your own link.
"The real takeaway from this data is that console owners are growing their software library no matter which console they own."
I think that is A lot of wishful thinking.
Yes Nintendo produces the best games for the Wii right now.
I know a few Wii owners.
Most all of them have GH3.
Most of them have Mario Galaxy. One of them is a 35 year old mother of three. She has finished it all ready. Her and her kids stayed up late many nights finishing it.
A lot of them have Mariokart. Many more want it but they can not get.
And a BIG winner is Wii fit.
If you are a publisher you may have a big problem with competing with Nintendo. They are producing some great games that are smash hits.
The real problem I see with the Wii and third party games is simply that most of them are just not very good.
The number of adults and more importantly women buying Wiis and games just blows my mind.
When I get asked by a mother of three about Mario Galaxy and where she can find Mario kart all I can say is Nintendo has opened up a huge new market.
The game publishers better start thinking about the target audience. GTA and FPS are probably not going to be big winners on the Wii.