And how many times must we say that SPEWS blocks no one.
I never said you did. You're just the man behind the curtain allowing clueless people thinking they're helping themselves to put legitimate businesses between a rock and a hard place. Because you refuse to accept any accountability, it's not even possible to correct any mistakes. You just blithely say "we can't be wrong, you're just in the slum. move." Regardless of how expensive that is. Expensive enough that it's entirely possible that a business could be driven out of business because customers leave and they can't afford to switch. Because you can't find out you'll be in spews until it's too late.
You are not innocent. You live in a slum; you give money to a slum lord, and you want to complain when the pizza guy doesn't want to deliver to you anymore?
If it were the slum being blacklisted, that would be one thing, but it's the entire city. The Internet is not a two-level affair: ISPs and End Users --- there are a lot of middle-men.
Personally, I expect that the problem is moot, because pretty soon the entire Internet will be listed, and people won't be able to use it and still communicate with anyone.
But you're right. It's not your fault. It's the fault of all the clueless people using spews in ignorance.
In an end user system, you're right, but I've got a friend whose business is regularly put in jeopardy by spews because they take a shotgun approach and screw any collateral damage and hell no we won't be held accountable for our mistakes.
They're putting a number of legitimate people between a rock and a hard place because it's very expensive to change providers when you're providing high-bandwidth connectivity, but at risk of losing customers who can't send the email they need to because their customers are signing up to anonymous blacklists with no accountability.
At least we know someone at DARPA reads science fiction... Personally, I think it's funny and sad how it's been blown up as "betting on adversity". Talk about a good way to make sure nothing creative ever comes out of DARPA again...
I actually like the mozilla/thunderbird mail user interface, and it would be nice to view attachments directly, but I still use mutt in a terminal window because I hate editing with a mouse. Are there any GUI mailers that support vi (or, heaven forbid;-) emacs --- ok, I'm sure emacs *is* a gui mailer, it's everything else;-) so never mind that...)? It looks like there is a gpg plugin for M/T, so the editor is the only thing holding me back...
Microbes are not miniature black holes: they may eat the grease, but then what have you got? Think miniature tribbles to get an idea... Now if they were (and made) something inert you could easily wash down the drain with no ill side effects, maybe Dow's "Scrubbing Bubbles" weren't so far off...
I have to say, I think it's silly to de-orbit it if it's still doing
good science. The argument that a service visit is comparable to a new
launch at a fraction the cost is compelling. Though I like the idea of
it eventually going into the Smithsonian too. If NASA really doesn't
want to do it just because they can't get to the space station from
there, then NASA's gotten too timid to be in space in the first place, especially if they have to take out the docking adapter to make room for Hubble anyway.
From their posts on the EV list, they're going for the fun exotic factor to justify the $80K price a limited production vehicle has to get. After the early adopters have gotten things going, then they can ramp up and lower the cost. At least that's my understanding of the plan...
And if you look at the videos, you can see that it's *very* stable.
The motor that's in it is a small fraction of the cost.
They've had it at Woodburn, Oregon's annual EV drag races in earlier prototypes. Come to this year's (August 31) and if you're lucky, maybe they'll bring one this year.
In terms of being able to survive a collision with another vehicle, I don't really think the weight of the vehicle is the important issue. Larger cars are safer than smaller cars not because they weigh more, but because they have more room to let the car crumple to absorb the energy created by a collision.
That's probably part of it, but weight matters also due to decelleration forces. If that energy isn't going into the mass of the car, it's going into you.
I've seen one, and it's been much discussed on the EV mailing list. The car is designed to race car standards, as mentioned in your quote even. Still, it'll be nice to see the results when they get the funding to do the crash tests...
There is room for a passenger in back; it isn't the easiest thing to get into, but not the worst either. It's a little cramped, but it's not intended for long trips either.
Yet Another "Let's Blow it Up"
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Don't they realize that if they're in an SF story, the thing they want to bomb will just feed on the energy? It's like these people have never read SF... Let me guess, that's how they activated it to save the planet...
Start in Rocky Mountain National Park, just out of Denver, work your way through Yellowstone, up through Glacier National Park to Banff and Jasper National Parks on the BC/Alberta border. Short of the Swiss Alps, I've never been anywhere more beautiful and interesting.
In the US, there is a notion of "Emminent Domain", which is the procedure under which the state may take property (road right-of-way is a common use, though even under this procedure, the state has to pay "fair market value"). It would seem that would apply.
I would think the correct procedure would be to negotiate: "we'd like to make your standard law, will you permit?" They might agree for a fee, if not, or if the fee's unreasonable, then the legal body can do their own. Probably it would be cheaper to pay the organization quite a bit before doing their own, though it might be worthwhile if the organization is not being cooperative. I personally think valid uses of Emminent Domain are very few. But I would rather see the laws using the standards thrown out than have them remain inaccessible.
This is only recently an issue, because before the web, you would either visit a library, or you'd have to pay a publisher anyhow, but now with the web, it's an issue, as laws are one of the things that should be freely accessible by all.
Sympathize but...
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I sympathize with the standards organizations, but a free society cannot tolerate hidden laws. The standards organizations created the standards specifically to be placed into law, and that means full knowledge that it must be public. The people that care about the standards will still participate, as it's in their own interest to do so.
What these people fail to realize is that life isn't fair, and that when there are conflicting interests, it's simply not possible for everyone to get their way. I'm sorry blind people are blind, but these techniques are solving a real, serious, problem. If there's a way to deal with it in a way blind people can use, fine. But pushing the burden of their disability on the rest of the world is not the answer.
It's just a stop-gap anyhow, as pattern recognition technology improves, this will be the next arms race. Anyone who claims evolution isn't real isn't watching.
I should be able to travel whatever products I choose from anywhere I want, excepting only really offensive stuff like narcotics and weaponry.
Baptists:...excepting only really offensive stuff like pornography, dance music and things about those perverts Nudists:...excepting only really offensive stuff like clothes Muslims:...excepting only really offensive stuff like Jewish things Jews:...excepting only really offensive stuff like Islamic things Loggers:...excepting only really offensive stuff like spikes Earth First:...excepting only really offensive stuff like chainsaws
I run a small ISP with spamassassin installed, and I had to increase the default quota when I upgraded to the version with Bayesian filtering and its multi-megabyte databases per user. Combined with spamd bugs forcing me to switch back to running spamassassin individually and the fact that spamd still doesn't serialize processing, so the system still gets hammered by a flood of spam, I'm looking forward to greylisting to help take the load off spamassassin.
I'm in the process of putting my high-bandwidth data at Download Technologies for exactly this issue. They have a high-speed backbone connection and charge for actual data transfers, so its pretty inexpensive --- even a slashdotting would only last a day or two and not add up to much probably. For example, I have videos from the 1997 DaVinci Days Kinetic Sculpture Race and Trebuchet events in Corvallis Oregon there.
Disclaimer: This particular site is run by friends of mine, but they're not the only ones who do this...
Re:$44 trillion is PV of debt in perpetuity
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The entire United States of America can be converted to wind powered electricity using only 14,000 acres of turbine footprint area
I guess we can shut down all our other powerplants then: according to Wind Farms and Wind Farmers, the Tehachapi Wind Farm in California is 40 square miles (25000+ acres), and the San Gorgonio Pass farm is even bigger at 70 sq miles... They don't say how big the Altamont Pass farm is, just that these are the three largest windfarms in the world, so I expect it to be similarly sized...
BAH! You yourself was spoiled! I remember hooking up to a BBS at 300baud
300 Baud? Talk about spoiled. That was probably on a CRT too!
We used to love the comforting sounds of a 110 baud TeleType. Ch-Thump! Ch-Thump! The Bzzzt Bzzzt Bzzzt of the 300 baud dot matrix version just wasn't quite the same, and you couldn't make it sound like a slot machine by sending a bunch of nulls to it: Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Thump! Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Thump! Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Thump! Ding! Ding! Ding!
Playing music and printing pictures on the line printer --- now those were the days!
My cursive has been going downhill for almost 20 years now, and I often find myself printing when writing by hand. I don't see a particular need for cursive --- it may be pretty when done well, but its purpose is to write faster mainly, beauty is secondary. And when you're writing a note, speed isn't that important. Further, if you want it readable, very few people's handwriting beats a printer.
I tried that once a while back and the software absolutely sucked. The same is true for the TV versions. And this way, if I do want to take it with me, I can.
Slashdot Mirror
I never said you did. You're just the man behind the curtain allowing clueless people thinking they're helping themselves to put legitimate businesses between a rock and a hard place. Because you refuse to accept any accountability, it's not even possible to correct any mistakes. You just blithely say "we can't be wrong, you're just in the slum. move." Regardless of how expensive that is. Expensive enough that it's entirely possible that a business could be driven out of business because customers leave and they can't afford to switch. Because you can't find out you'll be in spews until it's too late.
You are not innocent. You live in a slum; you give money to a slum lord, and you want to complain when the pizza guy doesn't want to deliver to you anymore?
If it were the slum being blacklisted, that would be one thing, but it's the entire city. The Internet is not a two-level affair: ISPs and End Users --- there are a lot of middle-men.
Personally, I expect that the problem is moot, because pretty soon the entire Internet will be listed, and people won't be able to use it and still communicate with anyone.
But you're right. It's not your fault. It's the fault of all the clueless people using spews in ignorance.
They're putting a number of legitimate people between a rock and a hard place because it's very expensive to change providers when you're providing high-bandwidth connectivity, but at risk of losing customers who can't send the email they need to because their customers are signing up to anonymous blacklists with no accountability.
Needless to say, it's very frustrating for them.
At least we know someone at DARPA reads science fiction... Personally, I think it's funny and sad how it's been blown up as "betting on adversity". Talk about a good way to make sure nothing creative ever comes out of DARPA again...
I actually like the mozilla/thunderbird mail user interface, and it would be nice to view attachments directly, but I still use mutt in a terminal window because I hate editing with a mouse. Are there any GUI mailers that support vi (or, heaven forbid ;-) emacs --- ok, I'm sure emacs *is* a gui mailer, it's everything else ;-) so never mind that...)? It looks like there is a gpg plugin for M/T, so the editor is the only thing holding me back...
Microbes are not miniature black holes: they may eat the grease, but then what have you got? Think miniature tribbles to get an idea... Now if they were (and made) something inert you could easily wash down the drain with no ill side effects, maybe Dow's "Scrubbing Bubbles" weren't so far off...
I have to say, I think it's silly to de-orbit it if it's still doing good science. The argument that a service visit is comparable to a new launch at a fraction the cost is compelling. Though I like the idea of it eventually going into the Smithsonian too. If NASA really doesn't want to do it just because they can't get to the space station from there, then NASA's gotten too timid to be in space in the first place, especially if they have to take out the docking adapter to make room for Hubble anyway.
Yup: Pixar's biggest asset is John Lasseter, who knows how to tell a great story.
And if you look at the videos, you can see that it's *very* stable.
The motor that's in it is a small fraction of the cost.
They've had it at Woodburn, Oregon's annual EV drag races in earlier prototypes. Come to this year's (August 31) and if you're lucky, maybe they'll bring one this year.
Come to the OEVA EV Awareness Day tomorrow (today? July 26) and if you're real lucky, maybe they'll have one here then too (they did last year).
That's probably part of it, but weight matters also due to decelleration forces. If that energy isn't going into the mass of the car, it's going into you.
I've seen one, and it's been much discussed on the EV mailing list. The car is designed to race car standards, as mentioned in your quote even. Still, it'll be nice to see the results when they get the funding to do the crash tests...
There is room for a passenger in back; it isn't the easiest thing to get into, but not the worst either. It's a little cramped, but it's not intended for long trips either.
Don't they realize that if they're in an SF story, the thing they want to bomb will just feed on the energy? It's like these people have never read SF... Let me guess, that's how they activated it to save the planet...
...and it needs a bigger wireless antenna
It's pretty bad when you can slashdot both the main site *and* the mirror...
Start in Rocky Mountain National Park, just out of Denver, work your way through Yellowstone, up through Glacier National Park to Banff and Jasper National Parks on the BC/Alberta border. Short of the Swiss Alps, I've never been anywhere more beautiful and interesting.
Like you can hear anyone more than a seat away in an airplane anyhow...
At the risk of going off topic, I'd like to know why anything that is popular is automatically assumed to be bad? Are we all closet elitists?
In the US, there is a notion of "Emminent Domain", which is the procedure under which the state may take property (road right-of-way is a common use, though even under this procedure, the state has to pay "fair market value"). It would seem that would apply.
I would think the correct procedure would be to negotiate: "we'd like to make your standard law, will you permit?" They might agree for a fee, if not, or if the fee's unreasonable, then the legal body can do their own. Probably it would be cheaper to pay the organization quite a bit before doing their own, though it might be worthwhile if the organization is not being cooperative. I personally think valid uses of Emminent Domain are very few. But I would rather see the laws using the standards thrown out than have them remain inaccessible.
This is only recently an issue, because before the web, you would either visit a library, or you'd have to pay a publisher anyhow, but now with the web, it's an issue, as laws are one of the things that should be freely accessible by all.
I sympathize with the standards organizations, but a free society cannot tolerate hidden laws. The standards organizations created the standards specifically to be placed into law, and that means full knowledge that it must be public. The people that care about the standards will still participate, as it's in their own interest to do so.
What these people fail to realize is that life isn't fair, and that when there are conflicting interests, it's simply not possible for everyone to get their way. I'm sorry blind people are blind, but these techniques are solving a real, serious, problem. If there's a way to deal with it in a way blind people can use, fine. But pushing the burden of their disability on the rest of the world is not the answer.
It's just a stop-gap anyhow, as pattern recognition technology improves, this will be the next arms race. Anyone who claims evolution isn't real isn't watching.
I should be able to travel whatever products I choose from anywhere I want, excepting only really offensive stuff like narcotics and weaponry.
Baptists:
Nudists:
Muslims:
Jews:
Loggers:
Earth First:
I run a small ISP with spamassassin installed, and I had to increase the default quota when I upgraded to the version with Bayesian filtering and its multi-megabyte databases per user. Combined with spamd bugs forcing me to switch back to running spamassassin individually and the fact that spamd still doesn't serialize processing, so the system still gets hammered by a flood of spam, I'm looking forward to greylisting to help take the load off spamassassin.
If traffic in the hov lanes is that bad, what's the incentive to pay for a sticker that lets you drive there?
Disclaimer: This particular site is run by friends of mine, but they're not the only ones who do this...
The entire United States of America can be converted to wind powered electricity using only 14,000 acres of turbine footprint area
I guess we can shut down all our other powerplants then: according to Wind Farms and Wind Farmers, the Tehachapi Wind Farm in California is 40 square miles (25000+ acres), and the San Gorgonio Pass farm is even bigger at 70 sq miles... They don't say how big the Altamont Pass farm is, just that these are the three largest windfarms in the world, so I expect it to be similarly sized...
BAH! You yourself was spoiled! I remember hooking up to a BBS at 300baud
300 Baud? Talk about spoiled. That was probably on a CRT too!
We used to love the comforting sounds of a 110 baud TeleType. Ch-Thump! Ch-Thump! The Bzzzt Bzzzt Bzzzt of the 300 baud dot matrix version just wasn't quite the same, and you couldn't make it sound like a slot machine by sending a bunch of nulls to it: Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Thump! Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Thump! Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Thump! Ding! Ding! Ding!
Playing music and printing pictures on the line printer --- now those were the days!
My cursive has been going downhill for almost 20 years now, and I often find myself printing when writing by hand. I don't see a particular need for cursive --- it may be pretty when done well, but its purpose is to write faster mainly, beauty is secondary. And when you're writing a note, speed isn't that important. Further, if you want it readable, very few people's handwriting beats a printer.
I tried that once a while back and the software absolutely sucked. The same is true for the TV versions. And this way, if I do want to take it with me, I can.