i am a perfect example of how you CAN succeed in this field without a degree.
i was able to get some experience doing security and sysadmin work on the side for very very little money. this gave me SOME experience that i used on my resume to get a co-op position in a manufacturing company in the helpdesk.
i took this position and eventually pushed myself into a role where i was doing some system administration work. i volunteered for every project that was offered and did well in them. i worked late without taking overtime. i made suggestions when no one else would speak up.
now i'm the sysadmin for the company doing the job of three former employees at lower pay then any of them.
the point is that you CAN get a job without a degree but you have to get your foot in the door first! even if that means chugging out in the helpdesk for a few years in order to get seen by the higher ups. make sacrifices with pay and overtime initially and you will be rewarded in the future.
Yet another attempt of/. trying to trash Microsoft at every opportunity.
Sorry but no matter how many stories you send to the front page trashing Microsoft and all of their OS's it will continue to be the preferred OS and application vendor for end users.
This is like a builder who builds a house without any doors or windows in a bad neighborhood while telling the buyers "YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DOORS OR WINDOWS ON YOUR HOUSE SO DON'T PUT ANYTHING VALUABLE IN HERE" and local burglars taking 5 or 6 years to realize it. You deserve to have all your stuff stolen because you didn't bother to look at your own place or take the builders warnings to heart.
This whole situation couldn't be more irrelevent, just like this comment.
You sit there and wonder... Why the hell are they asking for $24,000 USD? Isn't it an odd amount to ask for? Get off your america-is-the-center-of-the-world attitude and look at some interesting conversions. There are a number of countries that are involved with these happenings, russia, south africa, findland, india, uzbekistan(spelling? don't care), and some others.
Lets take a brief look at some currency conversions.
24,000.00 USD United States Dollars = 25,082,065.34 UZS Uzbekistan Sums 24,000.00 USD United States Dollars = 1,091,064.00 INR India Rupees
25 million UZS's, or 1 million Rupees, sounds much more "hostage like" then $24,000.
Carry on with country specific flaming. Here i'll give you a topic, not only are good IT jobs being outsourced but so are black hats! You better protect your black-hat interests before it's too late.
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**Neither Gnome *NOR* KDE, IMHO, are ready for Solaris and other environments. KDE and Gnome both feel too disjointed to really make the Unix desktop feel like a computer that non-technically minded people would use.**
non-technically minded people have no business running anything with regards to unix except an idiot-proof kiosk. i'm tired of trying to help idiots run linux/bsd just because its "neat" and "different". we are talking about servers and gui's have no business in an enterprise level enviroment. please leave the resources for my checkpoint firewall and oracle databases you devilish ram gusslers.
This really suprizes me. I'm amazed that Intel would release a processor awhile after the development of the 1Ghz AMD that was a poor choice in the feild of vido compression. I'm not the only one to realize that video is comming and its comming quick in this world of streaming media. A processor that is only good for one proprietary algorithm with encoding is just plain rediculous. I really don't follow alot of the new hardware stories but this just can't be ignored, these issues will determine what processors we use in the future.
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i am a perfect example of how you CAN succeed in this field without a degree.
i was able to get some experience doing security and sysadmin work on the side for very very little money. this gave me SOME experience that i used on my resume to get a co-op position in a manufacturing company in the helpdesk.
i took this position and eventually pushed myself into a role where i was doing some system administration work. i volunteered for every project that was offered and did well in them. i worked late without taking overtime. i made suggestions when no one else would speak up.
now i'm the sysadmin for the company doing the job of three former employees at lower pay then any of them.
the point is that you CAN get a job without a degree but you have to get your foot in the door first! even if that means chugging out in the helpdesk for a few years in order to get seen by the higher ups. make sacrifices with pay and overtime initially and you will be rewarded in the future.
Yet another attempt of /. trying to trash Microsoft at every opportunity.
Sorry but no matter how many stories you send to the front page trashing Microsoft and all of their OS's it will continue to be the preferred OS and application vendor for end users.
i will never be a part of any union, ever.
if my coworkers unionize or my career requires me to unionize i will be changing careers.
it's as simple as that.
unions have effectively killed the entire American manufacturing industry among others.
This is like a builder who builds a house without any doors or windows in a bad neighborhood while telling the buyers "YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DOORS OR WINDOWS ON YOUR HOUSE SO DON'T PUT ANYTHING VALUABLE IN HERE" and local burglars taking 5 or 6 years to realize it. You deserve to have all your stuff stolen because you didn't bother to look at your own place or take the builders warnings to heart.
This whole situation couldn't be more irrelevent, just like this comment.
I WIN
Just wanted to throw this little fact in.
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 107th Congress - 1st Session
Vote Number: 313 Vote Date: October 25, 2001, 01:54 PM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Bill Passed
Measure Number: H.R. 3162
YEAs 98
NAYs 1
Not Voting 1
Yea, you see that? I sure do, EVERYONE VOTED FOR IT save Feingold.
How about the House?
Yeas 357
Nays 66
NV 9
So who are you really mad at? Bush or every single politician INCLUDING a shiteton of democrats? This isn't a republican vs democrat thing.
These people are not your friends no matter what letter is after their name, stop voting them into office.
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... we'll let you know when it's fixed"
get over it folks, full disclosure doesn't work. all it does is say "HEY LOOK AT US WE SUCK AT PROGRAMMING BUT WE ADMIT IT SO PLEASE DON'T PWN US!!"
microsoft says "yea we know we have some problems
there will always be new exploits with or without full disclosure.
Duke Sucks
and i thought the flashing leds were bad. modders are silly.
You sit there and wonder... Why the hell are they asking for $24,000 USD? Isn't it an odd amount to ask for? Get off your america-is-the-center-of-the-world attitude and look at some interesting conversions. There are a number of countries that are involved with these happenings, russia, south africa, findland, india, uzbekistan(spelling? don't care), and some others.
Lets take a brief look at some currency conversions.
24,000.00 USD United States Dollars = 25,082,065.34 UZS Uzbekistan Sums
24,000.00 USD United States Dollars = 1,091,064.00 INR India Rupees
25 million UZS's, or 1 million Rupees, sounds much more "hostage like" then $24,000.
Carry on with country specific flaming. Here i'll give you a topic, not only are good IT jobs being outsourced but so are black hats! You better protect your black-hat interests before it's too late.
**Neither Gnome *NOR* KDE, IMHO, are ready for Solaris and other environments. KDE and Gnome both feel too disjointed to really make the Unix desktop feel like a computer that non-technically minded people would use.**
non-technically minded people have no business running anything with regards to unix except an idiot-proof kiosk. i'm tired of trying to help idiots run linux/bsd just because its "neat" and "different". we are talking about servers and gui's have no business in an enterprise level enviroment. please leave the resources for my checkpoint firewall and oracle databases you devilish ram gusslers.
plain and simple .... where do i sign up?
This really suprizes me. I'm amazed that Intel would release a processor awhile after the development of the 1Ghz AMD that was a poor choice in the feild of vido compression. I'm not the only one to realize that video is comming and its comming quick in this world of streaming media. A processor that is only good for one proprietary algorithm with encoding is just plain rediculous. I really don't follow alot of the new hardware stories but this just can't be ignored, these issues will determine what processors we use in the future.
that's funny, i know eric burns(Zyklon)
it all depends on the person writing the program or script.