>At least Princess Di was an incredibly benevolent person.
I was with you right up until this last part. It seems to contradict your argument. I'm not saying she wasn't, but how would any of us really know? Based on media coverage (and we all know how un-biased that always is, right?)
I saw something along these lines on a Larry King interview clip they keep showing on CNN. Larry asked him if he remembered the funeral of his father and the famous salute.
He said something along the lines of - after seeing the image over and over again, you start to think you remember something, I don't know for sure if I actually remember that.
I had a reaction that his status as a cultural icon was invented about an hour after the first reports of his death. Sure, he was famous for being famous, I don't remember anything profound he ever said or did. He was good looking, glamorous and had a famous family. So its news when he dies (christ, he's only a couple years older than I am, I was a year old when his father was shot).
But man, I can't figure out what the overreaction in the media is all about. He's suddenly the voice of our generation and all that. Sheesh. Its a damn shame and all that this guy bit it like this, but lets keep a little perspective. Its *not* like JFK being shot all over again. That was the news story of the century. This is tragic and newsworthy, but not of the same magnitude.
I'm not confinced that technology did this as much as our society of personality worship. Sure, it makes it worse that information and images travel faster, there are more 24 hour cable news networks that dive all over this. But I think the root of this is that for some reason Americans gravitate to hero worship, and if a close-enough hero dies, it is sufficient motivation to elevate him/her beyond what they really represented so that we can enjoy bashing our chests about how much of a loss this is and how its a blow to an entire freaking generation. Bleah.
Yeah you're right - I bought it too when it came out, can't be any longer ago than last fall. I remember because its one of the few that I've bought by download, and I only got my cable modem last October.
Probably thinking about PM3 that has been out for a couple years. I think I got that one about the time Win95 OSR2 was out with fat32 support, If memory serves.
That doesn't mean that PowerQuest shouldn't release the code soon if that's what they promised!:-)
>This tool does not have to run under Windows to still be very useful.
Right, I understand that, I don't dis-agree. I just meant that a first-time Linux installer might be wary of something like this. From my experience (not *all* that long ago) installing Linux on a Windows machine, the scariest part was repartitioning to free up space for Linux.
I guess my experience was that running PQPM and then booting windows to make sure it was still there felt a little safer to me than if there was some 'out of the box' solution to do it during the install. Once I was comfortable that Windows was still working, I had no qualms about firing up the RedHat installer.
OTOH, an integrated partitioner in an installer would be great for users that don't care. But I already paid my $30 for PM and it works great so I don't personally have much interest in this (especially if it cannot resize ext2 partitions on the fly without losing data).
"Recently, a new need for hard-drive partioners has been felt with the growing success of Linux: people often want to install Linux on their PC without having to remove Windows(tm)."
Ok fine, but... if this is initially written for Linux, is there going to be a lot of interest? Granted, it would be great if an installer could resize your partitions for you on the fly to make room for Linux. I guess from my perspective, I'd be more comfortable using a 3rd-party package like Powerquest PM4 to do the changes from within windows and make sure that it still works before doing a Linux install.
But then, that's just me. I hope this does well, I'm just scratching my head wondering if the targeted users for this would really be interested. Who knows?
Right, I know about the ps2rate issue. In fact, I got a USB mouse to solve the 40hz sampling issue b4 the ps2rate program became well known. I went back to a PS/2 mouse after I installed ps2rate so I wouldn't have to swap mice back and forth when booting between linux and windows. (wanna buy a used USB intellimouse?)
Funny thing is that Quake2 plays and feels almost identical between the two OSes. Its Q3Test where I see a big difference. It has gotten better in windows with the 1.06 and 1.07 versions, but it still just looks better in Linux for some reason.
I don't think the point is if this is welcome, I think the point is the formality attached to written correspondence [sp?]. Sure, this is cultural and could change over time, but in this time, an e-mail on this subject could be seen as somewhat of a slight, almost like a form letter or fax might seem to be.
Another example is professional correspondence (guess I'd better look up the spelling if I'm gonna keep using that word:-) ). We send e-mail back and forth to our customers all the time, but some stuff is in paper, just because everyone expects a certain level of formality for some things. (invoices, project authorizations, dispute settlement, etc.)
If I got an e-mail from my lawyer with his statement of his charges for work on my fater's estate, I would probably have an odd reaction. I would expect a letter with a hand-written signature. This is just customary. I'm sure in 20 years that custom will change and people will be comfortable with e-mail for just about everything.
Right, the Earth to the Moon episode about Apollo 1 was just on HBO the other night. The total time from first notice of fire to the capsule bursting (I assume the hatch, they didn't say) was 15 seconds.
There was a scene where Borman was talking to an engineer about how to open the hatch, it took 20 seconds to perform the steps. They mentioned a re-design involving some kind of explosive releasing mechanism.
Scary shit. Good thing there were brave, dedicated professionals that were willing to put their lives on the line in the name of science and 'patriotism'. We owe a great debt to these men, this series really brings home the courage and dedication these astronauts brought to bear on this amazing endeavor.
No, it is not faster that I have seen (timedemo is broken in 1.05) but for some reason it *looks* a whole lot better on my machine in linux.
I have a PII-333 running a V2 - dual booting W98 and RH 6 with kernel patched to 2.2.10
Both OS seem to give me the same framerates (> 40 on average it seems), but the real difference seems to be in how it looks (subjective, for sure). I can't explain it but it seems clearer and crisper running under Linux.
My brother has a nearly identical box to mine running NT, and he agreed when he came over and played both that the Linux game seemed to just *feel* better. I know this may not help much, there's no way to measure this - just my $.02
OIC - I read more into your post than I guess you intended, sorry about that.
That is an interesting point, I never noticed that before (quake 2 shipped out at 3.05 if I remember). I assume you are correct that q3 is derived from the same code going all the way back to quake 1, so it probably would make sense.
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Just what exactly are you getting at? Yeah, so id releases a lot of patches for their games, so what? Since this is a *test* and they are making an effort to get feedback and patch it before its a released game instead of pushing it out the door, maybe we can expect a better product when it ships?
Post-releases are a fact of life, unfortunately. The only games I can think of I've ever bought that didn't have any patches were some of the LucasArts games.
God I bought Unreal almost a year ago and there have been how many patches and its still not as playable as it should be. I think id probably has a better track record than most when it comes to adressing problems after the game is out.
Yeah, it sucked when Q2 had so many patches right after it came out, but it wasn't the end of the world. Q3 will have patches, probably not as many as Q2 did, since they are doing a much more extended 'test'. And hell, we're getting to play the game and give them feedback. How many other game companies do that?
>This is not what the article states. Quoting verbatim:
>Wired homes watch an average of 13% less TV -- about one hour daily -- than others, says the study, commissioned by America Online
Bullshit. That's exactly what that says. I admit that its worded kinda wierd. Wired homes watch about one hour daily, 13% less than others - would have made more sense.
Not, Wired homes watch one hour less tv per day than others, 13% less. Makes no sense.
Only way to know for sure would be to look at the actual study. Anyone have a link?
I think there may be a little confusion on the subject of equal access here. There was no 'equal access act'. There was the MFJ which split up the bell system, creating (8, I think) regional bell operating companies (rboc) and creating a separation between local and long distance phone service.
You cannot get dial-tone service from a long distance company to bypass your local phone service provider. Your local provider has to allow you equal access to the LD provider of your choice.
There really isn't a parallel here, that I see. The added value of AOL in its proprietary content is not similar in any way I can think of to long distance service.
What I gather the central issue here is that when you get broadband service from a cable company, the $40 you pay each month is supposed to be for access and content. AOL wants to be able to sell its content to you and wants your cable ISP to reduce your monthly access by some amount if you don't use their content?
Maybe I'm just confused here. I'm paying $40 a month to MediaOne for an 'always on' high-speed connection. If they have content, I don't use it. If they started restricting the services available to me because they are providing a monopoly service and I have no option to go elsewhere, that is one thing. If I'm locked into something besides my connection at $40 a month, I don't really care so much.
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Heehee... The only thing wrong is that the "reply to this" link is not in the right font size, Other than that, funniest thing I've seen all day, dude!
Only reason I even caught this is I was running at -1 today.
God, how did I get sucked into this stupid exchange?
>Same kernel, same programs.
So, if it is all the "same", why even have different distributions? I understand that the kernel is the kernel, that most of the GNU utilities are going to be the same, yet there obviously must be advantages/differences to other distribution.
>Linus uses Red Hat at work and SuSE at home. You calling him a newbie?
I didn't call anyone anything. I like RedHat. I learned a lot by installing and using it. I was a complete newbie and RH was my first experience, it was pretty easy. I'm ready to explore further into other distributions.
I'm not trying to start up yet another distribution war. I'm a convert to linux who is curious about distributions other than RedHat. I guess I should just shut up now since I'm not getting any useful information from the benevolent guardians of truth and knowledge that obviously inhabit./
(sorry for the sarcasm, its early and I'm only on my first pot of coffee)
>But DON'T claim that a distribution is 'for the big boys'
I didn't. All I said (I thought) was that I've gotten the impression that it is so. I've never used Debian so I know it by reputation only. I've used RedHat all along, but I have to admit that I've gotten the impression (right or wrong) that its for newbies and Debian has different advantages for more experienced users.
So I'm going to give it a try and see what its about and judge for myself which suits my particular needs better. I doubt very much that I would wipe my RH6 install since it does what I need for my primary machine, but I'm interested to try a different distro on the new AMD K6-2 box I'm building.
I gotta admit I've felt like this for a while and I'm getting ready to give it a try on the new box I'm building.
It's funny that I just have this feeling that I'm limiting myself using RedHat, even though it has been a very good experience to get familiar with Linux. I'm not sure how this mindset got to me or how valid it is, but I feel the same way that Debian is for big boys and I'm past the RedHat 'phase' and ready to move on.
sure, its a waste - its all relative to what you consider 'useful'. I think its interesting and that's why I run it. I'm sure there's a non-zero probablility of finding something, then again I'm sure there is also a non-zero probablility that OJ didn't do it.:-)
Must we go through this entire discussion of seti vs rc5 vs something else more useful yet again?
Isn't re-hashing these stale arguments a waste of cpu/bandwidth/time also?
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>At least Princess Di was an incredibly benevolent person.
I was with you right up until this last part. It seems to contradict your argument. I'm not saying she wasn't, but how would any of us really know? Based on media coverage (and we all know how un-biased that always is, right?)
I saw something along these lines on a Larry King interview clip they keep showing on CNN. Larry asked him if he remembered the funeral of his father and the famous salute.
He said something along the lines of - after seeing the image over and over again, you start to think you remember something, I don't know for sure if I actually remember that.
I had a reaction that his status as a cultural icon was invented about an hour after the first reports of his death. Sure, he was famous for being famous, I don't remember anything profound he ever said or did. He was good looking, glamorous and had a famous family. So its news when he dies (christ, he's only a couple years older than I am, I was a year old when his father was shot).
But man, I can't figure out what the overreaction in the media is all about. He's suddenly the voice of our generation and all that. Sheesh. Its a damn shame and all that this guy bit it like this, but lets keep a little perspective. Its *not* like JFK being shot all over again. That was the news story of the century. This is tragic and newsworthy, but not of the same magnitude.
I'm not confinced that technology did this as much as our society of personality worship. Sure, it makes it worse that information and images travel faster, there are more 24 hour cable news networks that dive all over this. But I think the root of this is that for some reason Americans gravitate to hero worship, and if a close-enough hero dies, it is sufficient motivation to elevate him/her beyond what they really represented so that we can enjoy bashing our chests about how much of a loss this is and how its a blow to an entire freaking generation. Bleah.
>If Bill Gates had a nickel for every time Windows crashed...
..oh wait, he does.
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Yeah you're right - I bought it too when it came out, can't be any longer ago than last fall. I remember because its one of the few that I've bought by download, and I only got my cable modem last October.
:-)
Probably thinking about PM3 that has been out for a couple years. I think I got that one about the time Win95 OSR2 was out with fat32 support, If memory serves.
That doesn't mean that PowerQuest shouldn't release the code soon if that's what they promised!
>This tool does not have to run under Windows to still be very useful.
Right, I understand that, I don't dis-agree. I just meant that a first-time Linux installer might be wary of something like this. From my experience (not *all* that long ago) installing Linux on a Windows machine, the scariest part was repartitioning to free up space for Linux.
I guess my experience was that running PQPM and then booting windows to make sure it was still there felt a little safer to me than if there was some 'out of the box' solution to do it during the install. Once I was comfortable that Windows was still working, I had no qualms about firing up the RedHat installer.
OTOH, an integrated partitioner in an installer would be great for users that don't care. But I already paid my $30 for PM and it works great so I don't personally have much interest in this (especially if it cannot resize ext2 partitions on the fly without losing data).
Ok, this is great news, just a question, though.
The article says:
"Recently, a new need for hard-drive partioners has been felt with the growing success of Linux: people often want to install Linux on their PC without having to remove Windows(tm)."
Ok fine, but... if this is initially written for Linux, is there going to be a lot of interest? Granted, it would be great if an installer could resize your partitions for you on the fly to make room for Linux. I guess from my perspective, I'd be more comfortable using a 3rd-party package like Powerquest PM4 to do the changes from within windows and make sure that it still works before doing a Linux install.
But then, that's just me. I hope this does well, I'm just scratching my head wondering if the targeted users for this would really be interested. Who knows?
Right, I know about the ps2rate issue. In fact, I got a USB mouse to solve the 40hz sampling issue b4 the ps2rate program became well known. I went back to a PS/2 mouse after I installed ps2rate so I wouldn't have to swap mice back and forth when booting between linux and windows. (wanna buy a used USB intellimouse?)
Funny thing is that Quake2 plays and feels almost identical between the two OSes. Its Q3Test where I see a big difference. It has gotten better in windows with the 1.06 and 1.07 versions, but it still just looks better in Linux for some reason.
I don't think the point is if this is welcome, I think the point is the formality attached to written correspondence [sp?]. Sure, this is cultural and could change over time, but in this time, an e-mail on this subject could be seen as somewhat of a slight, almost like a form letter or fax might seem to be.
:-) ). We send e-mail back and forth to our customers all the time, but some stuff is in paper, just because everyone expects a certain level of formality for some things. (invoices, project authorizations, dispute settlement, etc.)
Another example is professional correspondence (guess I'd better look up the spelling if I'm gonna keep using that word
If I got an e-mail from my lawyer with his statement of his charges for work on my fater's estate, I would probably have an odd reaction. I would expect a letter with a hand-written signature. This is just customary. I'm sure in 20 years that custom will change and people will be comfortable with e-mail for just about everything.
Right, the Earth to the Moon episode about Apollo 1 was just on HBO the other night. The total time from first notice of fire to the capsule bursting (I assume the hatch, they didn't say) was 15 seconds.
There was a scene where Borman was talking to an engineer about how to open the hatch, it took 20 seconds to perform the steps. They mentioned a re-design involving some kind of explosive releasing mechanism.
Scary shit. Good thing there were brave, dedicated professionals that were willing to put their lives on the line in the name of science and 'patriotism'. We owe a great debt to these men, this series really brings home the courage and dedication these astronauts brought to bear on this amazing endeavor.
No, it is not faster that I have seen (timedemo is broken in 1.05) but for some reason it *looks* a whole lot better on my machine in linux.
I have a PII-333 running a V2 - dual booting W98 and RH 6 with kernel patched to 2.2.10
Both OS seem to give me the same framerates (> 40 on average it seems), but the real difference seems to be in how it looks (subjective, for sure). I can't explain it but it seems clearer and crisper running under Linux.
My brother has a nearly identical box to mine running NT, and he agreed when he came over and played both that the Linux game seemed to just *feel* better. I know this may not help much, there's no way to measure this - just my $.02
OIC - I read more into your post than I guess you intended, sorry about that.
That is an interesting point, I never noticed that before (quake 2 shipped out at 3.05 if I remember). I assume you are correct that q3 is derived from the same code going all the way back to quake 1, so it probably would make sense.
Just what exactly are you getting at? Yeah, so id releases a lot of patches for their games, so what? Since this is a *test* and they are making an effort to get feedback and patch it before its a released game instead of pushing it out the door, maybe we can expect a better product when it ships?
Post-releases are a fact of life, unfortunately. The only games I can think of I've ever bought that didn't have any patches were some of the LucasArts games.
God I bought Unreal almost a year ago and there have been how many patches and its still not as playable as it should be. I think id probably has a better track record than most when it comes to adressing problems after the game is out.
Yeah, it sucked when Q2 had so many patches right after it came out, but it wasn't the end of the world. Q3 will have patches, probably not as many as Q2 did, since they are doing a much more extended 'test'. And hell, we're getting to play the game and give them feedback. How many other game companies do that?
Well, I can't argue with that, I guess. Man that thing was worded totally bass-ackwards.
Thank you for clearing that up.
>This is not what the article states. Quoting verbatim:
>Wired homes watch an average of 13% less TV -- about one hour daily -- than others, says the study, commissioned by America Online
Bullshit. That's exactly what that says. I admit that its worded kinda wierd. Wired homes watch about one hour daily, 13% less than others - would have made more sense.
Not, Wired homes watch one hour less tv per day than others, 13% less. Makes no sense.
Only way to know for sure would be to look at the actual study. Anyone have a link?
>I hope this clears things up for you
Heh, not in the least. You are going by Rob's synopsis of the article, and not what the article actually said, for one.
>From this we know that there is a 13% decrease in viewing time, and that this 13% decrease is equal to 1h.
Nope, the wired family watches an hour a day, which is 13% less than everyone else.
At least that's the way I read the article.
No, I read it this way:
... x = 68.96 minutes)
Wired homes watch an hour a day, which is 13% less than non-wired homes.
"Wired homes watch an average of 13% less TV -- about one hour daily -- than others, says the study"
So... (dusts off calculator) one hour a day being 87% of the 'others' total viewing,
(lessee 60/x = (100-13)/100
an hour a day is 13% less than 70 minutes a day?
I find that a lot easier to swallow than people are watching 8-10 hours of tv a day on average!
I think there may be a little confusion on the subject of equal access here. There was no 'equal access act'. There was the MFJ which split up the bell system, creating (8, I think) regional bell operating companies (rboc) and creating a separation between local and long distance phone service.
You cannot get dial-tone service from a long distance company to bypass your local phone service provider. Your local provider has to allow you equal access to the LD provider of your choice.
There really isn't a parallel here, that I see. The added value of AOL in its proprietary content is not similar in any way I can think of to long distance service.
What I gather the central issue here is that when you get broadband service from a cable company, the $40 you pay each month is supposed to be for access and content. AOL wants to be able to sell its content to you and wants your cable ISP to reduce your monthly access by some amount if you don't use their content?
Maybe I'm just confused here. I'm paying $40 a month to MediaOne for an 'always on' high-speed connection. If they have content, I don't use it. If they started restricting the services available to me because they are providing a monopoly service and I have no option to go elsewhere, that is one thing. If I'm locked into something besides my connection at $40 a month, I don't really care so much.
Heehee... The only thing wrong is that the "reply to this" link is not in the right font size, Other than that, funniest thing I've seen all day, dude!
Only reason I even caught this is I was running at -1 today.
ok, disclaimer: this is based on my experience only
BFWIW, I've found that the Voodoo 2 is the "best" solution for the games I want to play under Linux (Quake, Quake 2, Quake 3).
For the record, I bought a Diamond Viper 770 (TNT2 Ultra) and it plays Q2 ok, just Q3 is too slow (yet). The 3dfx plays all these games very well.
But, I got the TNT2 card because the Voodoo is running out of gas and XF86 4 with DRI is what I expect to use with the TNT2 to replace it.
Granted, gaming is not my primary activity in Linux, but I'm getting really sick of dual-booting back to Win98 to play games.
God, how did I get sucked into this stupid exchange?
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>Same kernel, same programs.
So, if it is all the "same", why even have different distributions? I understand that the kernel is the kernel, that most of the GNU utilities are going to be the same, yet there obviously must be advantages/differences to other distribution.
>Linus uses Red Hat at work and SuSE at home. You calling him a newbie?
I didn't call anyone anything. I like RedHat. I learned a lot by installing and using it. I was a complete newbie and RH was my first experience, it was pretty easy. I'm ready to explore further into other distributions.
I'm not trying to start up yet another distribution war. I'm a convert to linux who is curious about distributions other than RedHat. I guess I should just shut up now since I'm not getting any useful information from the benevolent guardians of truth and knowledge that obviously inhabit
(sorry for the sarcasm, its early and I'm only on my first pot of coffee)
>But DON'T claim that a distribution is 'for the big boys'
:-p
I didn't. All I said (I thought) was that I've gotten the impression that it is so. I've never used Debian so I know it by reputation only. I've used RedHat all along, but I have to admit that I've gotten the impression (right or wrong) that its for newbies and Debian has different advantages for more experienced users.
So I'm going to give it a try and see what its about and judge for myself which suits my particular needs better. I doubt very much that I would wipe my RH6 install since it does what I need for my primary machine, but I'm interested to try a different distro on the new AMD K6-2 box I'm building.
So sue me.
I gotta admit I've felt like this for a while and I'm getting ready to give it a try on the new box I'm building.
It's funny that I just have this feeling that I'm limiting myself using RedHat, even though it has been a very good experience to get familiar with Linux. I'm not sure how this mindset got to me or how valid it is, but I feel the same way that Debian is for big boys and I'm past the RedHat 'phase' and ready to move on.
Ah well, guess at least I'll learn something.
here we go again...
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sure, its a waste - its all relative to what you consider 'useful'. I think its interesting and that's why I run it. I'm sure there's a non-zero probablility of finding something, then again I'm sure there is also a non-zero probablility that OJ didn't do it.
Must we go through this entire discussion of seti vs rc5 vs something else more useful yet again?
Isn't re-hashing these stale arguments a waste of cpu/bandwidth/time also?
... a cool graphic to make up for the not-windows versions not having the screen saver! Gotta try this.
>but the film was actually about Scotland's struggle for independence. :-)
:-)
Heh, I didn't think they wore kilts in Ireland