VMS? Try RSX-11M - that's mid '70s for you young boys and gals.... I can't believe I had to wait about 30 years to get this nice little feature back...
For this quote alone I wish I could mark you "+1 Insightful".
There is a development curve that seems to creep into OSs.
Features hit the Mainframe world, then X number of years later they hit the Personal Computer and everyone goes "ooo... ahhh... how novel!" then, in a nother few years they hit the Handheld space and AGAIN the public goes "ooo... ahhh... how novel!" without ever realizing that while the features may be new to THAT platform, they've existed for quite a while in another "more mature" OS.
This isn't meant as a dig at any OS or platform, rather a comment on the "pundits" compared to people who work in an industry and have either studied a fields history or lived through it.
You are probably right about the cost vs. disc media, but, consider that the new generation of consoles seems to be trying to ween users from low game prices, and also that locking the game data behind TPM and DRM (even if its locked to 'just work on our consoles', its still technically DRM), might be inticing enough to console makers... if they believe it will cut down on pirated media... that they might go for it anyway, at the expense of some profit (laugh), okay, they might just pass along the cost to the consumers.
Of course, if they are the ONLY one doing this, it might provide enough of an incentive that people would get the 'other' console.... of course, legacy support is one of the main reasons people still use Windows. I wonder if Sony isn't trying to build up the same sort of house. Of course I realize that the games market is a very different one, but a lot of people have a few favorite titles they pop in and play, and Sony's support of backward compatibility is certainly hoping to play on this to help justify buying their console over the competition.
he reason I won't be buying a PS4 is that it can't play my old games (unless of course they do what Nintendo is doing and release them all online but that's for a fee... why should I pay to dl games I already own) and won't have some spiffy new drive.
My understanding is that the Wii will offer an external unit to provide GameCube compatibility.... why couldn't a (theoretical) disk-less PS4 offer an add-on Optical Drive? (for backward compatibility or for viewing movies?)
Considering I can buy a 2GB flash drive for ~50$ (on sale now at Best Buy), I don't see why the 'next gen' media couldn't be solid state again. Assuming the trend continues, the price in bulk might be competitive enough to make it happen.
They also could use something akin to Sony's MagicGate (tm) format, where the data is encrypted in the drive itself, except that the content is somehow tied to a TPM chip in the PS4. This would give them the advantage of a solid state memory design, combined with tying it to their platform and "securing" the data from piracy. I would be surprised if I'm the first to think of this.
The only reason, I think, that consoles moved to optical media was because of the density increase and price to produce. If solid state memory improves enough and is cheap enough I see no reason to think colsole manufacturers wouldn't jump back to making carts.
I just hope they throw in an add-on Optical Drive so we can play our PS1/2/3 games/movies on there as well.
I admit it probably fell off the radar of most of the buying public, but does that matter?
I figure there are two categories of buyers: 1) must have first adopters 2) follow-on sales
If you fall into category 1, you are probably going to get one, provided that Sony even partially comes through (how many of this category own a Dreamcast?). If you fall into category 2, then you aren't going to get a PS3 before next march or june. You might be more likely to get an X-Box 360 (they've been out for a while and are already established), or a Wii (they look fun and are cheap). If you ARE holding off on an X-Box (I assume the cheap price of the Wii means those who want it, won't hold off getting it because of either other system), then you'll probably wait till December or January at least. That is, wait until the reviews, and first adopters really get their hands on it.
Granted, if PS3 sales tank in December, the gig might be up, but I'm much more curious on how things look around next March.
It's "abandoned" only if you believe that the dead have no use for it. The person entombed and most of the people who built the tomb believed they did.
Considering some of the later Pharos hired "tomb robers" to steal gold from previous burials to help bolster their coffers, and considering the practice was to empty those coffers at the time of burial to go into the next tomb, I'm not sure I can really look at those as "hallowed" graves.
It does however shed more light on the traditional jewish practice of burying someone unadorned in the simplest plain pine box you can get. No gold, no jewels, no fancy clothes. Seems to remove most avirice based reasons to disturb the grave.
No problem... as long as he leads the mission from the capsule.... oh? does the mission not include one? Eh. I'm sure he can improvise something to act as a heat-shield.:)
itto. If Transgaming GPL'd all of Cedega's code tomorrow, I would begin subscribing. But since they won't, I'll make due with either vanilla WINE or nothing at all.
Yeah... sure... because all of us who run linux joined the Mandrake users group, or bought a copy of SUSE or RedHat or [insert your distribution here], or contibuted money/time to the project in some way.
Color me skepticle but if Transgaming GPL'd all of Cedega's code tomorrow, most people would say "Cool! Free Code!" and possibly spin off a new project or re-integrate it back into WINE or just use it as is. Very few would bother getting a subscription.
That lack of a single "hybrid" system is part of why I've been so happy with my OS X laptop from work.
It has a shiny GUI combined with a CLI. I have a feeling, that once Apple finishes getting settled into the x86/x64 world, there are going to be a lot more converts (both programs, and people).
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Apples and Oranges and all that...
Considering the article and discussion... should that be "Apples and Windows and all that..."?:)
Our model is RedHat for stuff that requires a support contract (WebSphere, TSM) and CentOS for development boxes or things like our Apache servers, CUPS servers and what not. It provides the same interface and knowledge as the RHEL stuff so there's no need to document something different.
Okay... I'm curious. If you are already paying for access to RHEL images and support, why use CentOS on any of the boxes?
Couldn't you use the images to install on the other boxes, and just not register them with the "Red Hat Network" and not use them under support?
You're right, except my understanding is that Diebold bought out a company that was already making EVMs instead of making their own from scratch.
This probably left them in the position of having a "working" (but fundamentally broken) EVM they could sell, or having to design their own from scratch.
I would imagine that given the incentive (financial or legal) to produce a fixed or redesigned system, they could probably do it. From a financial perspective (which is the only one companies usually care about), there is no point running for that goal, when no one is asking for it (in this case "no one" = government bodies willing to spend money), there are no alternatives currently available that support it, and there is no legal requirement that defines a 'secure, tamperproof EVM as having X, Y and Z, including a paper audit trail".
I expect Diebold's EVM will get better over time as systems are replaced, loophole closed, and processes/code tested. The problem is that this wasn't done ahead of time, and being hampered by existing hardware can sometimes do that since changes cost money. Within a capitalist economy, there is no reason to expect sweeping changes from a company unless there is a financial gain.
The real question is why there aren't better requirements for EVMs being issued from the governemental customers that want to use them, since these are the best tool governments (and by extension voters) can use to get companies to impliment changes.
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Okay, I'm a geek and work in technology. I run WinXP Pro since I have a Domain at home (Samba 3), and it lets me play games and do work (yes, I also have another 2 machines runing Linux, and an OS X machine, its your typical 'mixed' development environment).
I see that they I can buy any upgrade copy and do a clean install (and if I upgraded I would go this route regardless), but has MS published anywhere what the differences between the different 'products' (and I use the term loosely), are?
With XP Home/Pro there were obvious descriptions of what parts were missing/added (depending on your point of view).
I haven't seen that (or don't remember seeing that), for the various flavours of Vista yet.
There's a reason that Diebold's banking and ATM machines are massively secure and auditable, and their voting machines, well, aren't either of those things.
To take the "devil's advotate" position for a minute...
Is that because...... ATM's have had years to go through many iterations to get to a "secure" and "reliable" system (that even then can have anomolies)?... ATM's operate on a different set of assumptions? (installed in a permanent location, so switches like this might exist be be much more easily shielded from the public through physical security).... ATM's do not have the privacy concern, which may take getting used to for a company used to tying a given transaction back to a given user?... Electronic Voting Machines (EVM) have a smaller install base and have had less money spent on them for development? I suspect the average voting district (where EVMs are deployed) has more ATMs than EVMs.... EVMs have to be much more flexable in allowing lists of candidates to be entered (for district elections + school board elections + statewide reforendums + national elections). ATMs have an established, and rather fixed set of functionality (although it could be argued that different ATMs can support different languages, the comparison is closer to every ATM needing to be set to dispense different amounts of money. So ATM1 gives the user a choice of $20, $40, $60, $100 and ATM2 gives a choice of $10, $30, $60, $200, etc.)
On a side note, does anyone know: - What is the average cost of an ATM vs an EVM? - What is the average expeted lifespan of an ATM vs an EVM?
Now, all those things aside, these problems need to be addressed, and my comments are NOT meant to be excuses. All of these problems CAN be addressed through sufficient testing, an open specification and design process, or lots of trial an error / patch and release.
Guess which one the EVM manufactorers have chosen to go with?
A half day of war funding would take care of NASA's immediate shortfall.
Easy answer:
NASA Chief Administrator to Congress: " We have recently learned that Terrorists have established a base at Cydonia. As you can see in these photographs from Hubble, Osama Bin Ladens face has been carved into the mountains of Mars. It is our belief that this was done as a propiganda ploy, however we can not rule out the possibility of further efforts underway there. We therefore need an immediate budget increase to make sure that we can Liberate Mars from its oppressors, and help establish a regime change. It is our belief that with enough funding a legitimate Martian Government can be established.":P
I think they've already passed through their equivalent of "bloated bureaucracy" (during the Mao regime) and are entering a period of creative explosion (new manned space capsule design where the capsules can be joined into a growing station in orbit, new research in fusion technology), while the U.S. is entering a period of scientific stagnation and decline (cuts to space funding, increased crackdown on individual chemical research and other 'dangerous' areas, growth of process patents on software, genes and other 'non-obvious' tech).
Part of China's growth is specifically due to its own insular society (and a rediculously huge market). Part of it is the calculated disregard for Intellectual Property. As china comes up to speed as a technological competitor, and the American/European world continues to stagnate idea development behind artifical barriers (like increased Copyright length and lowered Patent standards), the disparity will only grow, but not the way most legislators think.
Oddly enough I recently read an ad in Sep2004 Scientific American (okay, I'm re-reading an issue that got lost in a stack) how Toyata was opening up 8 new Manufacturing plants in the U.S.
After seeing plants flee the U.S. for cheaper labor areas, I wasn't sure wether to be happy (manufactoring in other contries now costs more than in the U.S.?) sad (The U.S. is so desperate for jobs that its labor costs have dropped?), or mixed (a combination of both). In any of the above cases, it hints at the leveling of the world economy, something some companies are taking into account, but too many people seem to think "The U.S. will always be #1".
I for one hope my quest to learn Mandarin and/or Cantonese is more succesful than my three years of High School Spanish/French:)
True, there are only so many times you can do any 'qwest' action.... although some of the oddities still make me laugh (like thieves being able to hide in shadows while wielding magical, purple glowing, +2 naginatas:D)
(and yes, loosing stats sucked. Interesting way of trying to balance the game though.)
I can see where paying to not play the game you are already paying to play just seems wrong. Considering that most people have trouble enough finding time to play the game that they want to, paying to not play it, seems even weirder (not to mention that it takes away the joy of achievment which, along with the community interactions are the whole point of these sort of games).
Even though I don't agree with this position, I suppose it could be argued that all MMORPG ask to be paid twice. The first time is the monthly fee (or lack thereof for the free ones). The second time is how much of your time you are willing to invest. The market forces for the second cost is that each persons time can be rated as a ratio of how much time elapses in the 'real world'. Compare that to the time the most active player spends and you've defined the maximum range for payment. People spending money to buy gold are playing with this ratio which is what impacts the economy, because time is a finite resource. Now my head is hurting, and I feel like I should read a good economics text, since I'm probably espousing ideas I think are original, but that someone has already fleshed out.:)
I've thought of trying an MMORPG, but there seem to be a lot of 'leet speak masses' out there, and I find I have few enough hours to play games as it is (especially since I got married) (hence the need to find a game where the intangeble economy isn't ready to go into a huge out of control spiral before I can enjoy it.
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For this quote alone I wish I could mark you "+1 Insightful".
There is a development curve that seems to creep into OSs.
Features hit the Mainframe world, then X number of years later they hit the Personal Computer and everyone goes "ooo
This isn't meant as a dig at any OS or platform, rather a comment on the "pundits" compared to people who work in an industry and have either studied a fields history or lived through it.
You are probably right about the cost vs. disc media, but, consider that the new generation of consoles seems to be trying to ween users from low game prices, and also that locking the game data behind TPM and DRM (even if its locked to 'just work on our consoles', its still technically DRM), might be inticing enough to console makers ... if they believe it will cut down on pirated media ... that they might go for it anyway, at the expense of some profit (laugh), okay, they might just pass along the cost to the consumers.
... of course, legacy support is one of the main reasons people still use Windows. I wonder if Sony isn't trying to build up the same sort of house. Of course I realize that the games market is a very different one, but a lot of people have a few favorite titles they pop in and play, and Sony's support of backward compatibility is certainly hoping to play on this to help justify buying their console over the competition.
Of course, if they are the ONLY one doing this, it might provide enough of an incentive that people would get the 'other' console.
Not to mention OS X Server 10.5 preview page here
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(personally waiting on that
Expect that bug to be fixed in the next major upgrade 11.0
My understanding is that the Wii will offer an external unit to provide GameCube compatibility.
Considering I can buy a 2GB flash drive for ~50$ (on sale now at Best Buy), I don't see why the 'next gen' media couldn't be solid state again. Assuming the trend continues, the price in bulk might be competitive enough to make it happen.
They also could use something akin to Sony's MagicGate (tm) format, where the data is encrypted in the drive itself, except that the content is somehow tied to a TPM chip in the PS4. This would give them the advantage of a solid state memory design, combined with tying it to their platform and "securing" the data from piracy. I would be surprised if I'm the first to think of this.
The only reason, I think, that consoles moved to optical media was because of the density increase and price to produce. If solid state memory improves enough and is cheap enough I see no reason to think colsole manufacturers wouldn't jump back to making carts.
I just hope they throw in an add-on Optical Drive so we can play our PS1/2/3 games/movies on there as well.
I admit it probably fell off the radar of most of the buying public, but does that matter?
I figure there are two categories of buyers:
1) must have first adopters
2) follow-on sales
If you fall into category 1, you are probably going to get one, provided that Sony even partially comes through (how many of this category own a Dreamcast?).
If you fall into category 2, then you aren't going to get a PS3 before next march or june. You might be more likely to get an X-Box 360 (they've been out for a while and are already established), or a Wii (they look fun and are cheap). If you ARE holding off on an X-Box (I assume the cheap price of the Wii means those who want it, won't hold off getting it because of either other system), then you'll probably wait till December or January at least. That is, wait until the reviews, and first adopters really get their hands on it.
Granted, if PS3 sales tank in December, the gig might be up, but I'm much more curious on how things look around next March.
It's "abandoned" only if you believe that the dead have no use for it. The person entombed and most of the people who built the tomb believed they did.
Considering some of the later Pharos hired "tomb robers" to steal gold from previous burials to help bolster their coffers, and considering the practice was to empty those coffers at the time of burial to go into the next tomb, I'm not sure I can really look at those as "hallowed" graves.
It does however shed more light on the traditional jewish practice of burying someone unadorned in the simplest plain pine box you can get. No gold, no jewels, no fancy clothes. Seems to remove most avirice based reasons to disturb the grave.
No problem
Yeah
Color me skepticle but if Transgaming GPL'd all of Cedega's code tomorrow, most people would say "Cool! Free Code!" and possibly spin off a new project or re-integrate it back into WINE or just use it as is. Very few would bother getting a subscription.
That lack of a single "hybrid" system is part of why I've been so happy with my OS X laptop from work.
It has a shiny GUI combined with a CLI. I have a feeling, that once Apple finishes getting settled into the x86/x64 world, there are going to be a lot more converts (both programs, and people).
Considering the article and discussion
Okay
Couldn't you use the images to install on the other boxes, and just not register them with the "Red Hat Network" and not use them under support?
How does CentOS handle updates?
Out of curiousity, any idea how big the XBox Live version is? (just wondering)
Thanks for the link, its very informative and exactly what I've been looking for.
Your right I suppose, I must not have looked too hard
You're right, except my understanding is that Diebold bought out a company that was already making EVMs instead of making their own from scratch.
This probably left them in the position of having a "working" (but fundamentally broken) EVM they could sell, or having to design their own from scratch.
I would imagine that given the incentive (financial or legal) to produce a fixed or redesigned system, they could probably do it. From a financial perspective (which is the only one companies usually care about), there is no point running for that goal, when no one is asking for it (in this case "no one" = government bodies willing to spend money), there are no alternatives currently available that support it, and there is no legal requirement that defines a 'secure, tamperproof EVM as having X, Y and Z, including a paper audit trail".
I expect Diebold's EVM will get better over time as systems are replaced, loophole closed, and processes/code tested. The problem is that this wasn't done ahead of time, and being hampered by existing hardware can sometimes do that since changes cost money. Within a capitalist economy, there is no reason to expect sweeping changes from a company unless there is a financial gain.
The real question is why there aren't better requirements for EVMs being issued from the governemental customers that want to use them, since these are the best tool governments (and by extension voters) can use to get companies to impliment changes.
Okay, I'm a geek and work in technology. I run WinXP Pro since I have a Domain at home (Samba 3), and it lets me play games and do work (yes, I also have another 2 machines runing Linux, and an OS X machine, its your typical 'mixed' development environment).
I see that they I can buy any upgrade copy and do a clean install (and if I upgraded I would go this route regardless), but has MS published anywhere what the differences between the different 'products' (and I use the term loosely), are?
With XP Home/Pro there were obvious descriptions of what parts were missing/added (depending on your point of view).
I haven't seen that (or don't remember seeing that), for the various flavours of Vista yet.
To take the "devil's advotate" position for a minute
Is that because
On a side note, does anyone know:
- What is the average cost of an ATM vs an EVM?
- What is the average expeted lifespan of an ATM vs an EVM?
Now, all those things aside, these problems need to be addressed, and my comments are NOT meant to be excuses.
All of these problems CAN be addressed through sufficient testing, an open specification and design process, or lots of trial an error / patch and release.
Guess which one the EVM manufactorers have chosen to go with?
Considering California's (relatively) recent forey into recalling their Governer, perhaps this is exactly what they are afraid of.
Easy answer:
NASA Chief Administrator to Congress: " We have recently learned that Terrorists have established a base at Cydonia. As you can see in these photographs from Hubble, Osama Bin Ladens face has been carved into the mountains of Mars. It is our belief that this was done as a propiganda ploy, however we can not rule out the possibility of further efforts underway there. We therefore need an immediate budget increase to make sure that we can Liberate Mars from its oppressors, and help establish a regime change. It is our belief that with enough funding a legitimate Martian Government can be established."
Mr. Wolsey: Nothing renews your appreciation for the military like the threat of invasion from life-sucking aliens.
-- Season 3, Episode 2"Misbegotten"
Exactly!
:)
I think they've already passed through their equivalent of "bloated bureaucracy" (during the Mao regime) and are entering a period of creative explosion (new manned space capsule design where the capsules can be joined into a growing station in orbit, new research in fusion technology), while the U.S. is entering a period of scientific stagnation and decline (cuts to space funding, increased crackdown on individual chemical research and other 'dangerous' areas, growth of process patents on software, genes and other 'non-obvious' tech).
Part of China's growth is specifically due to its own insular society (and a rediculously huge market). Part of it is the calculated disregard for Intellectual Property. As china comes up to speed as a technological competitor, and the American/European world continues to stagnate idea development behind artifical barriers (like increased Copyright length and lowered Patent standards), the disparity will only grow, but not the way most legislators think.
Oddly enough I recently read an ad in Sep2004 Scientific American (okay, I'm re-reading an issue that got lost in a stack) how Toyata was opening up 8 new Manufacturing plants in the U.S.
After seeing plants flee the U.S. for cheaper labor areas, I wasn't sure wether to be happy (manufactoring in other contries now costs more than in the U.S.?) sad (The U.S. is so desperate for jobs that its labor costs have dropped?), or mixed (a combination of both). In any of the above cases, it hints at the leveling of the world economy, something some companies are taking into account, but too many people seem to think "The U.S. will always be #1".
I for one hope my quest to learn Mandarin and/or Cantonese is more succesful than my three years of High School Spanish/French
True, there are only so many times you can do any 'qwest' action. ... although some of the oddities still make me laugh (like thieves being able to hide in shadows while wielding magical, purple glowing, +2 naginatas :D)
:)
:)
(and yes, loosing stats sucked. Interesting way of trying to balance the game though.)
I can see where paying to not play the game you are already paying to play just seems wrong. Considering that most people have trouble enough finding time to play the game that they want to, paying to not play it, seems even weirder (not to mention that it takes away the joy of achievment which, along with the community interactions are the whole point of these sort of games).
Even though I don't agree with this position, I suppose it could be argued that all MMORPG ask to be paid twice. The first time is the monthly fee (or lack thereof for the free ones). The second time is how much of your time you are willing to invest. The market forces for the second cost is that each persons time can be rated as a ratio of how much time elapses in the 'real world'. Compare that to the time the most active player spends and you've defined the maximum range for payment. People spending money to buy gold are playing with this ratio which is what impacts the economy, because time is a finite resource. Now my head is hurting, and I feel like I should read a good economics text, since I'm probably espousing ideas I think are original, but that someone has already fleshed out.
I've thought of trying an MMORPG, but there seem to be a lot of 'leet speak masses' out there, and I find I have few enough hours to play games as it is (especially since I got married) (hence the need to find a game where the intangeble economy isn't ready to go into a huge out of control spiral before I can enjoy it.
EVE Online looks very interesting though
The only appropriate response I can think of is: ashtung ninda anghizida arflug (and I'm probably blowing the spelling also
As for the explaining the problem with farmers: thanks. Very clear and succinct.