So it comes down to: we don't want to form a professional, union-like organization that has standards and ethics, because we're afraid we won't have jobs.
I don't use cash, but I frequently get cash back.. It wouldn't have been much difference in this case (they only allow like 10 or 20 dollar increments), but I agree.. I rarely use cash (although I see people doing it).
IIRC, weren't these "orders" given in a non-disclosure format, so even talking to a lawyer about this could result in contempt/criminal charges? If so, how does one prevent this type of pro-se incompetency argument if one can't even talk to a lawyer about the issue at hand? Or should one talk to a lawyer anyway and let the courts figure it out later while risking imprisonment?
Not really. I know a bunch of people who live in $2500/month apartments, that they have to share with 5 other people so they can afford it. Seriously, not even kidding. Girl I was dating paid $400/month to sleep on a couch in the living room with 3 other people, with 4 other people splitting the 2 bedrooms. I have friends in SFO who do similar. Just because the rent's $1500/month or $2500/month, don't assume circumstances...
Not to mention, a lot of those "rich areas" were "cheap areas" when those roots were laid down. Which is kinda what the people in SFO are bitching about: "It was cheap and perfectly fine before the.coms showed up. Now everyone wants to live in the cool part of town, and I'm part of the reason it's the cool part of town, but because they make so much money, they can price me out of my own home. So I move, but where? My job is down the street and I can't afford to live in the neighborhood, so where to? Oakland? HA!" And there's plenty of people who would say "tough titties, life's a bitch" to that. It's even worse when you've got someone living on fixed income and suddenly finds themselves having to move at age 80. Can you imagine apartment hunting at that age? I certainly can't.
I could pack up and move to Hemet (fucking) CA if the only consideration was cost of living. But I also don't want to drive 3 hours to get to work and there's certainly no work in Hemet. With modern "corporate" america killing telecommutes (because it makes the managers nervous that you might be fucking off on the internet) but have no qualms about outsourcing that same work to some guy around the globe, who may or may not be fucking off on the internet or even qualified for the job, but he costs a third of what you make, so fuck it) it still means many of our jobs that could easily be done anywhere broadband is available are brought back in house. I could easily do my job pretty much anywhere in the country. I imagine most start-ups could do the same thing. "Oh, but I can't bug the guy next to me!" You obviously haven't discovered Hangouts, then.:) But seriously, if what you need is "face time" then I'll turn on the webcam and you can watch me watch hulu.. I mean code and do the cam "walk by interruption". And I don't even have to put on pants or spend any gas money to do this.
I guess the point is, people move to where the jobs are. That hasn't changed in a couple hundred years.
Los Angelean here: I make pretty good money as a software engineer and I have a shower and 350 beautiful square feet. I don't pay a huge amount, comparatively speaking, but that's because I'd rather spend my money servicing my student loans and other debts and making sure my retirement is being taken care of. The "luxury" apartments don't appeal to me all that much.. I mean, they're nice, but not worth spending half or greater my income on it (I mean, what's the point of making a lot of money if you're just spending it right back out on a fucking apartment?) and I certainly don't want roomates to bring the cost down. If I could find a place to buy for around the same that I pay in rent, I'd definitely consider it.
I've looked at moving up to SFO for the tech industry. My friends are making extremely nice paychecks up there, but all of them bemoan the fact that even with those generous paychecks, housing eats up a huge amount of it, especially if you've got kids and the like. So, if you have to make $200k to live like you make $150k in Los Angeles, to live like you make $100k in, I dunno, Denver, it's a very hard decision. The benefit of SFO is that if you become unemployed in the tech industry, currently you don't have to wait very long to get another job. Los Angeles tech is a little different, and living in Denver, I'm sure the employment opportunities are even more limited.
Hey Google X: Why don't you work on building the Google House: Affordable housing for middle class people? Update Frank Lloyd Wright's Usonian Automatic with modern building techniques and modern building codes (steel and concrete are still cheap, add some SIPS and maybe ICFs for modern versions), make the whole house "network aware", put a Tesla Charger in the carport, and subsidize the cost of building or buying and just collect the data. I'm sure people would love it. Build a whole subdivision of those in Mountain View with a Google Apartment Complex done the same way, open it up to more than just Google employees, and maybe you'll find it easier to get approval?
it's good enough for my relatively uncomplicated situation and the ability to import my last year's information helps a bunch. Also, since I've been looking at buying a house, the ability to print out my last few years W2s from the site was great vs. digging out my print copies and then then schlepping them to work to scan and email to my mortgage broker.
Well, a dictionary doesn't have any preference for either method, so she can still look up words as required. Also: Root words come in handy; she's much better at identifying word etymology than I am, but she also took Latin and I took Spanish.:D
And no, it doesn't quite work that way, i.e. Kanji (and even kanji has a similar root system at times: see kanji for tree vs forest, if meaning is what you're looking for). I just asked her how she learns to pronounce things: Mainly through root identification and through conversation, etc.
I was raised on the phonics approach; my girlfriend was raised on the whole word approach. I'd never knowingly met anyone educated in the whole word approach and had read "Why Johnny Can't Read" years ago, wondering, "where the hell is it that they teach this crap! This sounds insane!" And yet, studies show that while we learned phonics to learn how to read, our minds actually read whole-word once we're well-practiced. Anyway, the gf has 2 master's degrees and is working on yet another post-graduate degree, so apparently it works well enough.
What bugs me is that with the element of being "hands on", it really does discourage tagging on things like private single family housing as there's the very real possibility that a home owner and will defend his property. With a drone.. not so much.
Quality products + outstanding value + not trying to fuck over their employees. All things the US car manufacturers seemed to delight in avoiding for a couple decades.
/* It *does* run the prices up on the units that are available because there are fewer units on the market */
I'm not sure this is true, though. The number of units on the market seems to depend upon the number of renters available and the number of actual units available. If you could raise the rents on someone high enough to encourage them to look for a new apartment, they vacate yours, freeing yours, but take a unit elsewhere, so the net is basically zero. What's driving the prices up in SFO isn't rent control, it's a huge influx of young software developers with more money than sense who are willing to pay out the nose for anything that has some "grit" to it. Higher actual demand, with more ability to pay.
Actual value as determined by market distortions (i.e. a lot of people suddenly have a lot of money and are willing to throw money at housing because they realize they want a "cool" place to live. Fuck the guys that made it cool, fuck the guys that have been living in there for 50+ years and can no longer afford anywhere else in the city to live).
I mean, seriously, talk about picking the shitty side of the argument.. the rentiers are no heroes, but have some perspective.
I have an apartment. I am legally prevented from charging "market value" for my property due to rent control laws, especially for long term residents.
Now you happen to be a tenant and you got a really sweet deal on an apartment. However, because you're an asshole, you decide to exploit the difference between what I actually charge you and what the market could actually bear*. And now you're bitching about my actions, which are limited by the law with which I must abide by to do business in the location? Nevermind the no-subletting clause in the contract *you* signed. Because, fuck you, I'm getting mine.
My information may be about a decade out of date but in the Memphis, TN area, I know of several mainframe users: FedEx Autozone USPS (although this was moved to Indiana 7 or 8 years ago, but the jobs are still on-site last I heard).
Big Iron is one of those niches that I've always wanted to work with, much like how UNIX in general is what I fell in love with in the 90s.
So, which lifestyle would you rather live? Musk may go down in history as a man who change , but McAfee will go down as the man who did a ton of X. And has more interesting stories.
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So it comes down to: we don't want to form a professional, union-like organization that has standards and ethics, because we're afraid we won't have jobs.
God this country sucks.
Yeah, I can't wait until 12 year old kids get their own quadcopter "video" drones and can peep into chicks' windows 5 or 6 stories up...
Well, one's certainly less likely to physically beat their children at age 60 than at age 30.
I don't use cash, but I frequently get cash back.. It wouldn't have been much difference in this case (they only allow like 10 or 20 dollar increments), but I agree.. I rarely use cash (although I see people doing it).
Sleeping on the floor is supposed to be fantastic for your back, as well. And I still have a bed.
Pry me out of my aeron with your warm, live hands.
If that's true, Levison has gone from "hero" to "what the fuck were you thinking, you idiot!" real fast.
IIRC, weren't these "orders" given in a non-disclosure format, so even talking to a lawyer about this could result in contempt/criminal charges? If so, how does one prevent this type of pro-se incompetency argument if one can't even talk to a lawyer about the issue at hand? Or should one talk to a lawyer anyway and let the courts figure it out later while risking imprisonment?
Not really. I know a bunch of people who live in $2500/month apartments, that they have to share with 5 other people so they can afford it. Seriously, not even kidding. Girl I was dating paid $400/month to sleep on a couch in the living room with 3 other people, with 4 other people splitting the 2 bedrooms. I have friends in SFO who do similar. Just because the rent's $1500/month or $2500/month, don't assume circumstances...
Not to mention, a lot of those "rich areas" were "cheap areas" when those roots were laid down. Which is kinda what the people in SFO are bitching about: "It was cheap and perfectly fine before the .coms showed up. Now everyone wants to live in the cool part of town, and I'm part of the reason it's the cool part of town, but because they make so much money, they can price me out of my own home. So I move, but where? My job is down the street and I can't afford to live in the neighborhood, so where to? Oakland? HA!" And there's plenty of people who would say "tough titties, life's a bitch" to that. It's even worse when you've got someone living on fixed income and suddenly finds themselves having to move at age 80. Can you imagine apartment hunting at that age? I certainly can't.
I could pack up and move to Hemet (fucking) CA if the only consideration was cost of living. But I also don't want to drive 3 hours to get to work and there's certainly no work in Hemet. With modern "corporate" america killing telecommutes (because it makes the managers nervous that you might be fucking off on the internet) but have no qualms about outsourcing that same work to some guy around the globe, who may or may not be fucking off on the internet or even qualified for the job, but he costs a third of what you make, so fuck it) it still means many of our jobs that could easily be done anywhere broadband is available are brought back in house. I could easily do my job pretty much anywhere in the country. I imagine most start-ups could do the same thing. "Oh, but I can't bug the guy next to me!" You obviously haven't discovered Hangouts, then. :) But seriously, if what you need is "face time" then I'll turn on the webcam and you can watch me watch hulu.. I mean code and do the cam "walk by interruption". And I don't even have to put on pants or spend any gas money to do this.
I guess the point is, people move to where the jobs are. That hasn't changed in a couple hundred years.
Los Angelean here: I make pretty good money as a software engineer and I have a shower and 350 beautiful square feet. I don't pay a huge amount, comparatively speaking, but that's because I'd rather spend my money servicing my student loans and other debts and making sure my retirement is being taken care of. The "luxury" apartments don't appeal to me all that much.. I mean, they're nice, but not worth spending half or greater my income on it (I mean, what's the point of making a lot of money if you're just spending it right back out on a fucking apartment?) and I certainly don't want roomates to bring the cost down. If I could find a place to buy for around the same that I pay in rent, I'd definitely consider it.
I've looked at moving up to SFO for the tech industry. My friends are making extremely nice paychecks up there, but all of them bemoan the fact that even with those generous paychecks, housing eats up a huge amount of it, especially if you've got kids and the like. So, if you have to make $200k to live like you make $150k in Los Angeles, to live like you make $100k in, I dunno, Denver, it's a very hard decision. The benefit of SFO is that if you become unemployed in the tech industry, currently you don't have to wait very long to get another job. Los Angeles tech is a little different, and living in Denver, I'm sure the employment opportunities are even more limited.
Hey Google X: Why don't you work on building the Google House: Affordable housing for middle class people? Update Frank Lloyd Wright's Usonian Automatic with modern building techniques and modern building codes (steel and concrete are still cheap, add some SIPS and maybe ICFs for modern versions), make the whole house "network aware", put a Tesla Charger in the carport, and subsidize the cost of building or buying and just collect the data. I'm sure people would love it. Build a whole subdivision of those in Mountain View with a Google Apartment Complex done the same way, open it up to more than just Google employees, and maybe you'll find it easier to get approval?
it's good enough for my relatively uncomplicated situation and the ability to import my last year's information helps a bunch. Also, since I've been looking at buying a house, the ability to print out my last few years W2s from the site was great vs. digging out my print copies and then then schlepping them to work to scan and email to my mortgage broker.
Well, a dictionary doesn't have any preference for either method, so she can still look up words as required. Also: Root words come in handy; she's much better at identifying word etymology than I am, but she also took Latin and I took Spanish. :D
And no, it doesn't quite work that way, i.e. Kanji (and even kanji has a similar root system at times: see kanji for tree vs forest, if meaning is what you're looking for). I just asked her how she learns to pronounce things: Mainly through root identification and through conversation, etc.
I was raised on the phonics approach; my girlfriend was raised on the whole word approach. I'd never knowingly met anyone educated in the whole word approach and had read "Why Johnny Can't Read" years ago, wondering, "where the hell is it that they teach this crap! This sounds insane!" And yet, studies show that while we learned phonics to learn how to read, our minds actually read whole-word once we're well-practiced. Anyway, the gf has 2 master's degrees and is working on yet another post-graduate degree, so apparently it works well enough.
What bugs me is that with the element of being "hands on", it really does discourage tagging on things like private single family housing as there's the very real possibility that a home owner and will defend his property. With a drone.. not so much.
If anything, California has too much democracy.
Once they've seen Karl Hungus?
Quality products + outstanding value + not trying to fuck over their employees. All things the US car manufacturers seemed to delight in avoiding for a couple decades.
/* It *does* run the prices up on the units that are available because there are fewer units on the market */
I'm not sure this is true, though. The number of units on the market seems to depend upon the number of renters available and the number of actual units available. If you could raise the rents on someone high enough to encourage them to look for a new apartment, they vacate yours, freeing yours, but take a unit elsewhere, so the net is basically zero. What's driving the prices up in SFO isn't rent control, it's a huge influx of young software developers with more money than sense who are willing to pay out the nose for anything that has some "grit" to it. Higher actual demand, with more ability to pay.
Actual value as determined by market distortions (i.e. a lot of people suddenly have a lot of money and are willing to throw money at housing because they realize they want a "cool" place to live. Fuck the guys that made it cool, fuck the guys that have been living in there for 50+ years and can no longer afford anywhere else in the city to live).
I mean, seriously, talk about picking the shitty side of the argument.. the rentiers are no heroes, but have some perspective.
I have an apartment. I am legally prevented from charging "market value" for my property due to rent control laws, especially for long term residents.
Now you happen to be a tenant and you got a really sweet deal on an apartment. However, because you're an asshole, you decide to exploit the difference between what I actually charge you and what the market could actually bear*. And now you're bitching about my actions, which are limited by the law with which I must abide by to do business in the location? Nevermind the no-subletting clause in the contract *you* signed. Because, fuck you, I'm getting mine.
Jesus fucking christ.
Self-entitlement is strong in this one.
My information may be about a decade out of date but in the Memphis, TN area, I know of several mainframe users:
FedEx
Autozone
USPS (although this was moved to Indiana 7 or 8 years ago, but the jobs are still on-site last I heard).
Big Iron is one of those niches that I've always wanted to work with, much like how UNIX in general is what I fell in love with in the 90s.
Would you mind sharing the geographical region you're referring to?
So, which lifestyle would you rather live? Musk may go down in history as a man who change , but McAfee will go down as the man who did a ton of X. And has more interesting stories.
... i'm actually planning on doing this soon, just as a comparison between development methodologies.