Back in my day, "nerds" hacked things to make things you couldn't otherwise do.
Hacking a $20 photo frame to do something a $40 photo frame can do? That's not being a "nerd". That's just being bad at economics. When people were asking ten or fifteen years ago what they could do with their old laptops and the answer might've been "hack it into a photo frame you can hang on a wall!", that was hacking. You couldn't buy digital photo frames. When a digital photo frame was $300, that was creative recycling and a cool hack. When Walgreens sells them for $25, the challenge may be entertaining, but I'd bet most nerds, in the sense people meant 15 years ago, are off doing something more.. nerd.
Because "joining a doman" is an OS specific way of networking. By having domains a company has already said they don't want OS independent networking but rather what the advantages of an integrated stack of services.
Strictly speaking, that's not really correct. Joining an active directory domain is just basically some key exchanges, some Kerberos configuration and a few entries in an LDAP directory.
The reason you should have a specific OS is that the entire purpose of joining the domain is centralized management, authentication and authorization. You can join all sorts of devices into an AD domain -- Linux systems can be set up that way. But you're now at the mercy of the security and management of all those other systems.
The reason BYOD from any arbitrary platform is a bad idea is that, as an IT manager, you have absolutely no idea what is going on relative to that system. Your policies won't work if the system is going to ignore them. The group policies you've got mandating things like file encryption won't work.
IT is a hard enough space as it is without adding even more layers of complexity on top.
Can we agree that anybody who experiences "public shame and humiliation" about their cell phone should be reassigned to some ghastly corner of nowhere where they can feel 'public shame and humiliation' over how many goats they own? And, of course, anybody inflicting public shame and humiliation over cellphones should be reassigned to be one of the goats in said ghastly corner of the world?
Cell phone penetration is as high, or higher, in the 3rd world as the first world -- because much of those countries never had hard line infrastructure.
And, clearly based on RIM's sales numbers, people in the 3rd world don't want them either.
WTF is this world coming to if someone can be "shamed and humiliated" because of what type of phone they have?
People were shamed and humiliated by the sneakers they wore in the 80's.
Shame and humiliation over points of differentiation between people has been going on as long as there's been people.
Hell, most life does it. You wouldn't get natural selection if you didn't have one life form looking down on others for one thing or another. "Oh, your feathers aren't poofy enough, you must be a lousy father!"
Yes, because one data point invalidates the statement that "most" can't. But we're all proud of your ability to push start the Civic.
It doesn't invalidate your statement, but an anecdote does hold more weight than an assertion with no references given.
I've push-started my Civic (2009 LX) as well, when I've been parked on a hill and wanted to do it for fun. When I realized that I might be damaging something, I stopped the practice, but it worked fine.
That's two anecdotes now - doesn't that count as data?:-)
Well, strictly speaking, since they're both Civics... its data, but not really useful data.
I'm not going to go waving around my CV on here, but from direct first hand experience, I can tell you that the majority of cars today can't get stable enough voltage out of the alternator for the ECU to come up and actually get the engine started from a truly dead battery unless you can really get the car moving. When the clutch comes out, the engine slows too quickly and all the electronics doesn't get time to get powered up. (And its worse on cars with immobilzer type technology, because that also needs to power up.) Can it work with some cars? Sure. A car with a low enough compression engine that you can keep pushing it once the clutch is out would help, as an example.
But, in either case, the point of the thread is that the actual problem the original poster was talking about largely doesn't exist. The cars with onboard chargers manage both the high voltage and 12v systems and won't let the 12v system drain enough to prevent the charger from powering up. And even if it was dead, it'd be no different than every automatic and the majority of standards -- you need to jump it. You never need to tow it to a dealer, unless you're the kind of person who would tow a car with a dead battery to the dealer. The original poster was completely wrong on that point.
Incorrect. I recently push started a 2013 Honda Civic Si. battery was not dead, it was missing. GM cars will not because the Delco alternator is designed to not work without a battery. it requires a battery voltage to excite the coils to create electricity. But many japanese alternators dont have that flaw.
Yes, because one data point invalidates the statement that "most" can't. But we're all proud of your ability to push start the Civic.
Yeah, I'm wondering that too. As of a few months ago my city put up electric charging stations all around the downtown area. If there wasn't a standard, then why did the stations lack any model information.
Because, like every other damn story on here, Slashdot's editors are a bunch of drooling mouth breathers and don't edit anything.
Virtually every EV already uses the J1772 standard. In fact, I think Tesla is the only car that doesn't, but IIRC it comes with an adapter.
the EV1 had a charging paddle that was an inductive connection. safe to use under water.
Instead we get a version that means a 100% dead car = a trip tot he mechanic as it cant "command" the connection to start charging.
I don't think any of the EVs currently shipping will let their charge get that low, but even if that happened you just have to jump the 12v system -- like any other car with a dead battery. (Even modern standards, generally, can't be push-started anymore because the alternator can't generate enough power to get the ECU booted)
GM's volt, for example, won't let the vehicle discharge the 12v system enough to keep the charger from working.
The best fix is to make any automated dialing except those explicitly opted-into illegal. For everyone, including charities, non-profits and political campaigns.
95% of the automated calls I get are from places that are currently legal, anyway.
Native Americans are so much more in tune with nature......
Sarcasm aside, its an interesting belief in the US that this is true. However, the megafauna and original growth forests of North American that were devastated over ten thousand years by the original humans living here tell a different story.
Human beings, no matter when or where they're from, tend to make a giant mess of the environment. (To be fair, all life will do that -- we just happen to be pretty good at it. The Crown of Thorn starfish is doing a better job killing the Great Barrier Reef (which it depends on) than we are.)
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
I'm probably being unfair. This religion only represents about 1/6 of the worlds population and is the likely religion of the parent poster. There are probably many religions which are actually against rape.
Keep mind mind that is Old Testament, and it is the underpinnings for the religions that 2/3 of the world follow.
Well, automation brings efficiency. This will just make Obama's death panels all that much more efficient!
Just need to send a letter in the mail! "Dear Sir or Madam, Can you please ensure you are standing within 30 feet of your computer tomorrow morning at 8am."
The drives will shrink down to nothing. I believe that the drive controller considers a sector dead after 100,000 writes.
Filesystems, generally speaking, aren't resilient to the underlying disk geometry changing after they've been laid down. There's reserved space to replace bad cells as they start to die, but the disk won't shrink. Eventually, though, you get parts of the disk dying in an unrecoverable way and the drive is toast.
Unsupportable? Really? The US Federal Government did not institute a program that bought and destroyed used cars? The market price of a used car did not skyrocket immediately? Dude, you really need to pull your head out of the big O and get some fresh air.
Attempt at a flame war, or just not real good at reading comprehension? (If you can provide more detail about where you're going with this, I can better tailor my response...)
Your unsupportable political opinion aside, there are still more than enough used cars out there. The problem is not a lack of used cars, the problem is a consumption-driven culture that goes out of its way to teach people who most need to be responsible with their money to be irresponsible with their money.
So....poor people are overly easily influenced, and can't think for themselves....
Yes. It is, in fact, an example of causation and not correlation that spending more money than you need means you have less money than you could've, and last I checked, poverty is pretty strongly associated with a shortage of money.
And, if you really want to educate yourself on it, there's more published literature than you'd ever have time to read through on the psychology of poverty, and just as big of a collection of literature on the ways that psychology is used by marketers for political and commercial gain and population control.
Poor people could use a new car. Too many who are making $17,000 a year working 2 jobs end up with cars that cost 50% of their paycheck just in maintaince and have to go hungry half the time if something goes wrong.
There are many walmart workers where this would be perfect and are not fortunate like the poor in Europe or other first world countries.
There used to be this option known as "buying a used car," but the Lords here in the USA have ensured there is no supply of used cars in reach of their serfs^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hpoor people's spending power.
The Lords' program was called "Cash for Clunkers," and it took ~700,000 used cars off the market by literally destroying the engines intentionally (by pouring some powder directly into the engine and running it until died).
Your unsupportable political opinion aside, there are still more than enough used cars out there. The problem is not a lack of used cars, the problem is a consumption-driven culture that goes out of its way to teach people who most need to be responsible with their money to be irresponsible with their money.
When Apple knocked them off of the top of the market cap, revenue and profits hills many of them do doubt were telling themselves it was a fluke, a fad, a bubble.
Apple didn't knock them off the top of the market cap any more than ExxonMobil or any other big company. Ignoring that Apple's peak valuation hasn't come anywhere near Microsoft's peak valuation, and ignoring that Apple's valuation is based on stock speculation (hello, 15% drop in the last week!?), Apple's a media walled garden with a few products. Microsoft is a stable blue-chip with thousands of products, pays strong dividends and isn't going anywhere. Their stock is relatively flat, tracking inflation -- like any of the other big blue-chip companies. It doesn't have the hype bubble like Apple (or any other hype cycle like the real estate market, etc). In the "real" world of solid investing (not stock gambling), there isn't expectation of valuations doing what Apple's does -- because easy up is easy down.
Apple and Microsoft have as much competitive overlap as Microsoft and Google or Microsoft and Amazon. Less, really. Apple has an OS to power its hardware, and these days to lock people into their ecosystem and drive media consumption. They're a media company and a hardware company. Microsoft (at least in those spaces) is neither.
Your seafood's always been eating fish shit. Your vegetables are grown in shit. I'm sorry this is a shock to people.
And virtually all, if not all, tilapia is raised on fish feces. In fact, that's the *entire* reason it became marketed -- they were used to clean the fish farm tanks that other fish were being raised in and someone got the idea to sell them, too! Twice the fish for the amount of feed!
Yes, it's a (piece of a) spaceship named Curiosity. Seriously, the robot finds a metallic piece of something close to where it landed... what are the odds that part is not from Curiosity itself? (answer ~0%)
Well, its not actually very close to where it landed, at this point. And they've taken quite a few photos of the rover. What'll be interesting is if it IS a part from the rover, how did they not notice it was missing? And how did it come off? Seems more likely it'd be part of the lander, but IIRC, it didn't fly off in that direction.
I think your zero estimate is far off, if you're talking about Curiosity itself. If you're talking the whole Rube Goldberg contraption that landed it there... well, that may be a fairly low odds its not.
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Where are the nerds today?
Back in my day, "nerds" hacked things to make things you couldn't otherwise do.
Hacking a $20 photo frame to do something a $40 photo frame can do? That's not being a "nerd". That's just being bad at economics. When people were asking ten or fifteen years ago what they could do with their old laptops and the answer might've been "hack it into a photo frame you can hang on a wall!", that was hacking. You couldn't buy digital photo frames. When a digital photo frame was $300, that was creative recycling and a cool hack. When Walgreens sells them for $25, the challenge may be entertaining, but I'd bet most nerds, in the sense people meant 15 years ago, are off doing something more.. nerd.
Why should I need a specific OS to join a domain?
Because "joining a doman" is an OS specific way of networking. By having domains a company has already said they don't want OS independent networking but rather what the advantages of an integrated stack of services.
Strictly speaking, that's not really correct. Joining an active directory domain is just basically some key exchanges, some Kerberos configuration and a few entries in an LDAP directory.
The reason you should have a specific OS is that the entire purpose of joining the domain is centralized management, authentication and authorization. You can join all sorts of devices into an AD domain -- Linux systems can be set up that way. But you're now at the mercy of the security and management of all those other systems.
The reason BYOD from any arbitrary platform is a bad idea is that, as an IT manager, you have absolutely no idea what is going on relative to that system. Your policies won't work if the system is going to ignore them. The group policies you've got mandating things like file encryption won't work.
IT is a hard enough space as it is without adding even more layers of complexity on top.
Can we agree that anybody who experiences "public shame and humiliation" about their cell phone should be reassigned to some ghastly corner of nowhere where they can feel 'public shame and humiliation' over how many goats they own? And, of course, anybody inflicting public shame and humiliation over cellphones should be reassigned to be one of the goats in said ghastly corner of the world?
Cell phone penetration is as high, or higher, in the 3rd world as the first world -- because much of those countries never had hard line infrastructure.
And, clearly based on RIM's sales numbers, people in the 3rd world don't want them either.
WTF is this world coming to if someone can be "shamed and humiliated" because of what type of phone they have?
People were shamed and humiliated by the sneakers they wore in the 80's.
Shame and humiliation over points of differentiation between people has been going on as long as there's been people.
Hell, most life does it. You wouldn't get natural selection if you didn't have one life form looking down on others for one thing or another. "Oh, your feathers aren't poofy enough, you must be a lousy father!"
Yes, because one data point invalidates the statement that "most" can't. But we're all proud of your ability to push start the Civic.
It doesn't invalidate your statement, but an anecdote does hold more weight than an assertion with no references given.
I've push-started my Civic (2009 LX) as well, when I've been parked on a hill and wanted to do it for fun. When I realized that I might be damaging something, I stopped the practice, but it worked fine.
That's two anecdotes now - doesn't that count as data? :-)
Well, strictly speaking, since they're both Civics... its data, but not really useful data.
I'm not going to go waving around my CV on here, but from direct first hand experience, I can tell you that the majority of cars today can't get stable enough voltage out of the alternator for the ECU to come up and actually get the engine started from a truly dead battery unless you can really get the car moving. When the clutch comes out, the engine slows too quickly and all the electronics doesn't get time to get powered up. (And its worse on cars with immobilzer type technology, because that also needs to power up.) Can it work with some cars? Sure. A car with a low enough compression engine that you can keep pushing it once the clutch is out would help, as an example.
But, in either case, the point of the thread is that the actual problem the original poster was talking about largely doesn't exist. The cars with onboard chargers manage both the high voltage and 12v systems and won't let the 12v system drain enough to prevent the charger from powering up. And even if it was dead, it'd be no different than every automatic and the majority of standards -- you need to jump it. You never need to tow it to a dealer, unless you're the kind of person who would tow a car with a dead battery to the dealer. The original poster was completely wrong on that point.
Incorrect. I recently push started a 2013 Honda Civic Si. battery was not dead, it was missing. GM cars will not because the Delco alternator is designed to not work without a battery. it requires a battery voltage to excite the coils to create electricity. But many japanese alternators dont have that flaw.
Yes, because one data point invalidates the statement that "most" can't. But we're all proud of your ability to push start the Civic.
Yeah, I'm wondering that too. As of a few months ago my city put up electric charging stations all around the downtown area. If there wasn't a standard, then why did the stations lack any model information.
Because, like every other damn story on here, Slashdot's editors are a bunch of drooling mouth breathers and don't edit anything.
Virtually every EV already uses the J1772 standard. In fact, I think Tesla is the only car that doesn't, but IIRC it comes with an adapter.
the EV1 had a charging paddle that was an inductive connection. safe to use under water.
Instead we get a version that means a 100% dead car = a trip tot he mechanic as it cant "command" the connection to start charging.
I don't think any of the EVs currently shipping will let their charge get that low, but even if that happened you just have to jump the 12v system -- like any other car with a dead battery. (Even modern standards, generally, can't be push-started anymore because the alternator can't generate enough power to get the ECU booted)
GM's volt, for example, won't let the vehicle discharge the 12v system enough to keep the charger from working.
The best fix is to make any automated dialing except those explicitly opted-into illegal. For everyone, including charities, non-profits and political campaigns.
95% of the automated calls I get are from places that are currently legal, anyway.
Native Americans are so much more in tune with nature......
Sarcasm aside, its an interesting belief in the US that this is true. However, the megafauna and original growth forests of North American that were devastated over ten thousand years by the original humans living here tell a different story.
Human beings, no matter when or where they're from, tend to make a giant mess of the environment. (To be fair, all life will do that -- we just happen to be pretty good at it. The Crown of Thorn starfish is doing a better job killing the Great Barrier Reef (which it depends on) than we are.)
Because they TRIED the other way and the result is cab drivers who don't know their way around the city, costing people MORE money in longer trips.
In-car navigation systems stop working as soon as they cross the NYC city limits?
The universe didn't snap into being ten years ago when GPS navigation systems started showing up in cars.
Oh, and all the cab drivers looking at their GPS all the time in NYC traffic would lead to a lot of dead pedestrians.
(Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
I'm probably being unfair. This religion only represents about 1/6 of the worlds population and is the likely religion of the parent poster. There are probably many religions which are actually against rape.
Keep mind mind that is Old Testament, and it is the underpinnings for the religions that 2/3 of the world follow.
Well, automation brings efficiency. This will just make Obama's death panels all that much more efficient!
Just need to send a letter in the mail! "Dear Sir or Madam, Can you please ensure you are standing within 30 feet of your computer tomorrow morning at 8am."
The drives will shrink down to nothing. I believe that the drive controller considers a sector dead after 100,000 writes.
Filesystems, generally speaking, aren't resilient to the underlying disk geometry changing after they've been laid down. There's reserved space to replace bad cells as they start to die, but the disk won't shrink. Eventually, though, you get parts of the disk dying in an unrecoverable way and the drive is toast.
Um, either you misread my post or replied to the wrong post?
Unsupportable? Really? The US Federal Government did not institute a program that bought and destroyed used cars? The market price of a used car did not skyrocket immediately? Dude, you really need to pull your head out of the big O and get some fresh air.
Attempt at a flame war, or just not real good at reading comprehension? (If you can provide more detail about where you're going with this, I can better tailor my response...)
So....poor people are overly easily influenced, and can't think for themselves....
Yes. It is, in fact, an example of causation and not correlation that spending more money than you need means you have less money than you could've, and last I checked, poverty is pretty strongly associated with a shortage of money.
And, if you really want to educate yourself on it, there's more published literature than you'd ever have time to read through on the psychology of poverty, and just as big of a collection of literature on the ways that psychology is used by marketers for political and commercial gain and population control.
Only if you insist on driving right up the guy in front's arse.
Oh, another popular topic with the political flamewars!
Poor people could use a new car. Too many who are making $17,000 a year working 2 jobs end up with cars that cost 50% of their paycheck just in maintaince and have to go hungry half the time if something goes wrong.
There are many walmart workers where this would be perfect and are not fortunate like the poor in Europe or other first world countries.
There used to be this option known as "buying a used car," but the Lords here in the USA have ensured there is no supply of used cars in reach of their serfs^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hpoor people's spending power.
The Lords' program was called "Cash for Clunkers," and it took ~700,000 used cars off the market by literally destroying the engines intentionally (by pouring some powder directly into the engine and running it until died).
Your unsupportable political opinion aside, there are still more than enough used cars out there. The problem is not a lack of used cars, the problem is a consumption-driven culture that goes out of its way to teach people who most need to be responsible with their money to be irresponsible with their money.
When you have herpes, do you benefit from giving other people herpes?
Maybe you haven't had an orgasm before, but ...
When Apple knocked them off of the top of the market cap, revenue and profits hills many of them do doubt were telling themselves it was a fluke, a fad, a bubble.
Apple didn't knock them off the top of the market cap any more than ExxonMobil or any other big company. Ignoring that Apple's peak valuation hasn't come anywhere near Microsoft's peak valuation, and ignoring that Apple's valuation is based on stock speculation (hello, 15% drop in the last week!?), Apple's a media walled garden with a few products. Microsoft is a stable blue-chip with thousands of products, pays strong dividends and isn't going anywhere. Their stock is relatively flat, tracking inflation -- like any of the other big blue-chip companies. It doesn't have the hype bubble like Apple (or any other hype cycle like the real estate market, etc). In the "real" world of solid investing (not stock gambling), there isn't expectation of valuations doing what Apple's does -- because easy up is easy down.
Apple and Microsoft have as much competitive overlap as Microsoft and Google or Microsoft and Amazon. Less, really. Apple has an OS to power its hardware, and these days to lock people into their ecosystem and drive media consumption. They're a media company and a hardware company. Microsoft (at least in those spaces) is neither.
Your seafood's always been eating fish shit. Your vegetables are grown in shit. I'm sorry this is a shock to people.
And virtually all, if not all, tilapia is raised on fish feces. In fact, that's the *entire* reason it became marketed -- they were used to clean the fish farm tanks that other fish were being raised in and someone got the idea to sell them, too! Twice the fish for the amount of feed!
Yes, it's a (piece of a) spaceship named Curiosity. Seriously, the robot finds a metallic piece of something close to where it landed... what are the odds that part is not from Curiosity itself? (answer ~0%)
Well, its not actually very close to where it landed, at this point. And they've taken quite a few photos of the rover. What'll be interesting is if it IS a part from the rover, how did they not notice it was missing? And how did it come off? Seems more likely it'd be part of the lander, but IIRC, it didn't fly off in that direction.
I think your zero estimate is far off, if you're talking about Curiosity itself. If you're talking the whole Rube Goldberg contraption that landed it there... well, that may be a fairly low odds its not.
What bashing? If I hadn't been completely wrong, I would have had a perfectly valid point!
Yes, and if God made the Earth 6000 years ago, the half of the US claiming evolution isn't a fact would have had a perfectly valid point.
Actually HTC is making the "signature" WP8 devices, not Nokia.
You should know better than to bring facts to a Slashdot Microsoft-bashing!