E hasn't crashed once on me since about December 98, E0.16.0 is rock solid. And when E does crash, X doesn't crash, it just happily exits because the process that was keeping it open (Enlightenment) doesn't exist, but because it doesn't know E crashed, it thinks that you want to close X.
(And it's only been through 1 rewrite, which was to get rid of all the old Fvwm code left in and change the internal design).
in that case "Not making a rescue disk at the start" isn't a valid stupid mistake, as one can be made at anytime, unless it cannot be run from another machine
>1. Using the wrong hardware >This goes for almost any other OS, especially >Linux.
I bought a Zip drive the other day. A normal zip drive. Win 95 won't detect it. Linux doesn't care.
>3. Choosing the wrong file system > Ditto
The ditto here refers to "Goes for other OS's especially Linux" Linux supports about a billion filesystems, and doesn't really care if a file is on NTFS, FAT32 or ext2fs. So I don't think the same can be said about Linux. Sorry.
>4. No emergency repair disk > Ditto, especially Linux.
At least with Linux, if you don't make one at the start, all you have to do is download/copy a file onto a disk and you've got one made.
>7. Forgetting the password > Ditto
Forgotten the root account isn't that much of a hassle in Linux (or other Unices). Just get your rescue disk, mount the root partition and change whatever password you've forgotten.
>8. Using older applications > Ditto (ie. libc and glib)
I have no problem running older applications.Just keep the compatibility libraries around and all is well.
>9. Applying service packs unwisely > Ditto (can anyone say kernel?)
At least with the kernel you have a choice to install newly added bits that you're unsure of.
>10. Cloning Windows NT > Ditto
Whats the problem with cloning linux? Redhat (and probably others) give you the option of making a disk thats to be used to clones things, and you'll still get the support for the cloned machines too.
Windowmaker is one single program GNOME is many many programs
Windowmaker is a windowmanager GNOME is a desktop environment.
You cannot say "Windowmaker is one 3 files, GNOME should be too", as they are totally different things.
GNOME has been fairly stable for me since about V0.9, but once it passed about V1.0.9, it hasn't crashed in any major way that I can remember. The only version of GNOME that I had a problem with was 0.3. Version 1.18 is very stable and if you don't want to upgrade, fine, just don't be so close minded. Just because it crashed once in the past, doesn't mean it's not stable now.
Personally, I thin kthe Big Bang makes no sense whatsoever.
It says where our universe comes from (IE this REALLY huge thing that was everywhere, suddenly expanded and this expansion became our universe), but that doesn't say where the initial stuff came from, and when questioned my lecturer said "That is beyond the realms of comprehension."
I find creation easier to believe than that.
However, I have been thinking and I think Creation and Evolution can live quite happily together, it just depends how much you believe Genesis to be a metaphor for what happened rather than "How it did".
And what happened? Within a few hours the ftp site with the trojaned code was taken offline. Out of all those "l33t" coders at least one isn't going to think "hey, there's a nasty trojan in this, I'll comment it out and not tell anyone else ". No, they're going to spread the word, and it'll be all over the place, and no-one will use it.
I can't see how e-mail SPAM is a waste of your money unless you're paying for your bandwidth by the amount of data you are transfering every month, or are paying for a long distance call Or are in the UK where you pay by the second for phone bills.
I'm sorry, I got this thing, came free with age. It was called maturity. I would have found it funny when I was, oh 13/14. But yes, it is a form of comedy. Just not one that I find funny.
It was exactly like "voicing over vulgar dialog at just at the right moments on TV" but I don't find that funny either.
Parody is all very well, when you have actually done the work yourself. All this guy on Rotton did was scan the dilbert cartoons, cut out the text, and put his own in instead. Had he drawn the cartoons himself I think he could count it as parody, and UFS would have had less of a case, because it was his own work. As it is, he's displaying Scott Adams' work and UFS own the copyright on that.
Execpt half the software he named isn't actually released yet.....
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Yeah, and helping to write Mozilla is wee buns. Sure, I'll code up the full XML this afternoon for you if you want.
I wrote a program a few weeks back, which used plugins. In less than 24hrs I had been sent 8 new plugins, and even people who "couldn't code" (according to them) were taking the plugin I had written and changing stuff. People do contribute to OSS, but not everyone is able to write a part of mozilla.
"Web workers" who write and feature in these articles. Maybe it's because even complex HTML/DHTML/CSS (etc) "coding" isn't rocket science.
I'd love to see one of these geeks who go around proclaiming that you don't need uni education actually do something that might take a bit of thought (OS programming as an example)
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I downloaded all 45meg of 3.9.16 source last night
but it kept giving me loads of cc1 "Internal error #6"
Glad I didn't download it on my 56K modem, universities are useful for something.
iain - downloading 3.3.5 as he types
E hasn't crashed once on me since about December 98, E0.16.0 is rock solid.
And when E does crash, X doesn't crash, it just happily exits because the process that was keeping it open (Enlightenment) doesn't exist, but because it doesn't know E crashed, it thinks that you want to close X.
(And it's only been through 1 rewrite, which was to get rid of all the old Fvwm code left in and change the internal design).
Iain
in that case "Not making a rescue disk at the start" isn't a valid stupid mistake, as one can be made at anytime, unless it cannot be run from another machine
>1. Using the wrong hardware
>This goes for almost any other OS, especially >Linux.
I bought a Zip drive the other day. A normal zip drive. Win 95 won't detect it. Linux doesn't care.
>3. Choosing the wrong file system
> Ditto
The ditto here refers to "Goes for other OS's especially Linux" Linux supports about a billion filesystems, and doesn't really care if a file is on NTFS, FAT32 or ext2fs. So I don't think the same can be said about Linux. Sorry.
>4. No emergency repair disk
> Ditto, especially Linux.
At least with Linux, if you don't make one at the start, all you have to do is download/copy a file onto a disk and you've got one made.
>7. Forgetting the password
> Ditto
Forgotten the root account isn't that much of a hassle in Linux (or other Unices). Just get your rescue disk, mount the root partition and change whatever password you've forgotten.
>8. Using older applications
> Ditto (ie. libc and glib)
I have no problem running older applications.Just keep the compatibility libraries around and all is well.
>9. Applying service packs unwisely
> Ditto (can anyone say kernel?)
At least with the kernel you have a choice to install newly added bits that you're unsure of.
>10. Cloning Windows NT
> Ditto
Whats the problem with cloning linux? Redhat (and probably others) give you the option of making a disk thats to be used to clones things, and you'll still get the support for the cloned machines too.
Iain
Windowmaker is one single program
GNOME is many many programs
Windowmaker is a windowmanager
GNOME is a desktop environment.
You cannot say "Windowmaker is one 3 files, GNOME should be too", as they are totally different things.
GNOME has been fairly stable for me since about V0.9, but once it passed about V1.0.9, it hasn't crashed in any major way that I can remember. The only version of GNOME that I had a problem with was 0.3. Version 1.18 is very stable and if you don't want to upgrade, fine, just don't be so close minded. Just because it crashed once in the past, doesn't mean it's not stable now.
There was an article on this in some UK TV guide last week.
Apparently one of the people who survived eventually killed himself.
Iain
Damn
I was wrong.
They must have changed it cos I definetly remember reading that it was run on Solaris
iain
It's Solaris unless they've changed it recently. They tried to get it to run on NT but it cried a lot, and they had to return to Solaris. iain
But we didn't get CmdrTaco saying "I want one"
Something is just missing
Personally, I thin kthe Big Bang makes no sense whatsoever.
It says where our universe comes from (IE this REALLY huge thing that was everywhere, suddenly expanded and this expansion became our universe), but that doesn't say where the initial stuff came from, and when questioned my lecturer said "That is beyond the realms of comprehension."
I find creation easier to believe than that.
However, I have been thinking and I think Creation and Evolution can live quite happily together, it just depends how much you believe Genesis to be a metaphor for what happened rather than "How it did".
They look like netscapes and they don't look all that nice.
The package manager looks okay though.
Just like they did with Nettools was it?
And what happened? Within a few hours the ftp site with the trojaned code was taken offline. Out of all those "l33t" coders at least one isn't going to think "hey, there's a nasty trojan in this, I'll comment it out and not tell anyone else ". No, they're going to spread the word, and it'll be all over the place, and no-one will use it.
I can't see how e-mail SPAM is a waste of your money unless you're paying for your bandwidth by the amount of data you are transfering every month, or are paying for a long distance call
Or are in the UK where you pay by the second for phone bills.
I'm sorry, I got this thing, came free with age. It was called maturity. I would have found it funny when I was, oh 13/14. But yes, it is a form of comedy. Just not one that I find funny.
It was exactly like "voicing over vulgar dialog at just at the right moments on TV" but I don't find that funny either.
And they weren't very funny either. 14year old humour really.
Parody is all very well, when you have actually done the work yourself. All this guy on Rotton did was scan the dilbert cartoons, cut out the text, and put his own in instead. Had he drawn the cartoons himself I think he could count it as parody, and UFS would have had less of a case, because it was his own work. As it is, he's displaying Scott Adams' work and UFS own the copyright on that.
And the Internet is this large thing we are on now, whereas an internet is any large WAN.
512K was a lot on AmigaDOS, until Amigas came out with 1meg as standard.
Html in notepad.
Do it in emacs.
Execpt half the software he named isn't actually released yet.....
Yeah, and helping to write Mozilla is wee buns. Sure, I'll code up the full XML this afternoon for you if you want.
I wrote a program a few weeks back, which used plugins. In less than 24hrs I had been sent 8 new plugins, and even people who "couldn't code" (according to them) were taking the plugin I had written and changing stuff. People do contribute to OSS, but not everyone is able to write a part of mozilla.
I was just about to say the same thing, but I decided to read the comments.
But don't forget,it's not what the logo looks like it's what it represents.
I think that one represents a dull company, who make furniture, not fancy computer workstation things.
"Web workers" who write and feature in these articles. Maybe it's because even complex HTML/DHTML/CSS (etc) "coding" isn't rocket science.
I'd love to see one of these geeks who go around proclaiming that you don't need uni education actually do something that might take a bit of thought (OS programming as an example)
Well, we've done the second...
I'm all ready to do the first
No...according to them Unix was created to compete with Windows, so it can't be anymore than 15years old or so.
Where's the clue fairy when you need her?