> With only a few tweaks, most (if not all) of
> the security holes in IIS are covered
Reboot after all those patches too, then be sure to reapply all the service packs you might have to.
> As for Apache, you always have to upgrade the
> entire server (can you say downtime?)
Yes, that would take a lot of downtime...
killall httpd ; $pathto/httpd
or
/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S85httpd restart (for the RedHat people - maybe others)
lots of down time there, how many milliseconds was that?
All the configuration for an upgrade of anything on linux can be done while the existing server still runs. You can even test it by running it on some other port in the meantime. Then when ready, kill the oldversion, start the new version. Downtime of seconds. How many minutes will it take to reboot an NT machine for changing something
like the ip address?
> and maybe even the Linux/BSD kernel (can you say
> MORE downtime?).
Again, how long will it take to reboot the machine for a kernel upgrade? 2 minutes? 3 minutes? The same amount of time it would take to reboot a windows machine for any number of upgrades/changes/etc. But the linux/BDS reboot is only necessary to upgrade the kernel, and not to upgrade the software running on the machine.
AS far as rating downtime of NT vs Linux for maintenance reasons, I think your reasoning is all wet.
"There's a colocation facility available that uses nothing but solar power for their machines and local net."
There's nothing about people being able to co-locate servers at this site. It's a web hosting facility. Another fine instance of great journalism accuract from Slashdot.
Why would ISP's hate it? A simple modem flashing will fix all the modems up with no problem. Going from V.90 to the V.90 and Kflex and the combinations thereof were not a problem for any hardware I have used and am familiar with. When the V.92 standard is released by the hardware manufacturer we use, we'll simply let a script update all the modems and reboot. We'll be upgraded in about 10 minutes. (not bad for over 2000 lines).
No, there are not (only) three installments. The Faq: --quote-- How many installments will there be? That depends on your honesty. If more than 75% of you pay, it rolls. Any less, it folds.
When does the next installment come online? The second installment will go up August 21st. If people show that they can be trusted to pay, then the third installment will go up in September. We will keep you posted about later installments. -- end faq quoting--
There will be enough installments to finish the novel. That means enough to finish the story. They will post when they have more info about more installments.
Darn those FAQs, always telling people correct information.
Gee.. I'll trust the hondas for a long time. The first one (a 1979 CVCC model) got 165K on it before it's poor battered and bruised carcass was towed off... (I was a teenager and it was my high school car - I but the crap out of it and was surprised it lasted so long).
My latest one, a 1992 LX (yeah, it's the BOFH car:) just tripped 200K. I'm incredibly happy with the performance of the car (it'll jump whenever I want it too, and still asks 'how high' when I do it). It can do over 120 if I want (yeah, it takes a while, and I only did it once, at about 10000ft in altitude) and it still gets over 40 MPG. Last trip was around 45.
My wifes honda, a 1994 DX gets well over 50 MPG, though it's not as comfy as mine:) and she drives more conservatively than I.
Of course, it just seems like you're a maniacal mopar gearhead and wouldn't trust anything other than a mopar part, regardless of whether it was better or not. Fanatacism.... go fig...
They're not trying to get the software people to use it necessarily. They are talking marketing speak to people who are thinking about switching. They already know that open source backers already hate microsoft and will probably do anything to stay away from MS wares, they have us at hello, so to speak. To get the fence sitters and the eyes of the PHB's, they need to use the word free, as in no cost, to have them look.
Their software is free to the end user. It is free. It is not open source. It doesn't claim to be. Just because you, as a programmer, hacker, whatever label you want on you, think of 'free' as freeware, opensource, whatever, doesn't mean it is so.
Slashdot may be exclusively written with your eye in mind, but sun's marketing drones don't do that.
It could be.... When someone does something for charity, they do it for one of two reasons. 1) It's the right thing to do, or their chosen way to support X cause. 2) They're doing it because the charity work reflects well on them. Consider the fact the Al Gore gave out around $15,000 in charitable contributions last year, way way up from his numbers in 1998 of only a few hundred dollars. Dan Quayle, while in the VP seat under George bush gave donations of ~17k, $2934, 3624, and 5670, respectively. A big hit while he and George were campaigning that first year, then a drop an consistent increases as the re-election year approached. Making some product and 'giving away the proceeeds to charity' IS self promotion if you tell everyone, from the get-go, that you ARE giving it all away. You are promoting your own philanthropy. Producing a book and putting a note in the liner, or title page saying 'all proceeds from this book have gone to charity' isn't. It's kind of like shouting out "Look at me and the good work I do" rather than letting the other people whisper it for you. The true philanthropist gives because he/she wants and feels it helps people, that his/her money can be beneficial in some way. Also, the idea that "the proceeds are going to an unknown cause" raises question. What charity? Does anyone EVER name the charity that the money went to? I doubt it would happen here if nobody raised this point. Now that the point is raised though, we'll get an update when a decision is made, I'm sure. And continued selfpromotion of Taco's "look - my girlfriend helped - go see her website" also is self promoting. The whole thing smacks of self promotion, by the folks at Slashdot and also at Andover. But, I suppose that's simply because the ad revenues aren't quite enough to pay 'ed.' their money and pay for the bandwidth this site requires. Gotta publish a book on it. Be a philanthropist for philanthropy's sake, not for your own. And, may I close with a quote from the bottom of the slashdot home page: "Comments are owned by the Poster."
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A note, King isn't going to spend a penny of the surplus on this project. None. He intends to put $50million into a trust fund and pay for the computers off the interest of that trust fund. Don't want people to be confused by this. Also, as far as addressing repairs to schools, the funding for that has gone up, I think 42% (I think that's the number that was touted) and there are other parts of the surplus directoed towards those ends. Of course, in recent days, the propsal has been carved down to $30million, with which to make a trust fund for 'computer technology' in school. That's very general, and isn't that what E-rate was supposed to do? (yeah I know - e-rate was only for connecting the schools to the internet - and a 'not so great network' they're using for it). It's likely that King's plan will go down in flames but they will direct a substantial part of the surplus towards school technology things via a trust fund. Check the latest stories at http://www.centralmaine.com/statehouse/ to see how King's proposal is faring in the budget process.
Hey, those fully enclosed racks look TOO damn cool with the smoked plexi front door... though we've found that many of the hardware items (Big Cisco Routers, NetApps) don't fit right inside the rack, or if they do - you can't close both the front and back door. So we make trade offs... keeping the front door on and the back door off:) They look so wonderfully cool... and the racks cost $1500 - not $500.:)
Sure... I downloaded several MP3's from MP3.com of a celtic band. I loved em. I memorized em. I sang em. Then, I caught up with someone who actually knows the band and can get their CD'S (They're not available in stores). I had this person get the CD's and from all the people who downloaded these MP3s from MP3.com, they probably sold an extra 12 albums. Sure, not many overall, but we now know about them and want to bring them East for some show dates... now that will be worthwhile for them... and if they get picked up by some major label due to this, then they're doing even better. That's how it helps.
One of the other things brought out in the report was the difficulty for some people to get treatment, or more specifically, fear of getting treatment. The stigma of being diagnosed with a mental illness or mental deficiency is often enough to keep people from receiving treatment. Constant use of epithets like 'nuts' help perpetuate the stereotypes of mentally ill people as being drooling incompetent people, or homicidal maniacs.
Naw.. why bother posting another 'review' which is simply a bulleted listing of 'good' vs. 'bad' points of a book. It simply shows the typical review quality (or lack thereof) of many slashdot reviews.
I met some of their marketing folks at a recent tech show in Maine (yeah, in Maine!). I talked with them for 20 minutes about some things and I got a sweatshirt, but I also talked to them about many other things. They have a really cool tape device - well digital recorder - which plugs in with their Voice Recognition software. It's very cool.
Their Voice recognition is pretty decent, but I haven't played around with it enough to figure out how to add workds. I was up and runniing with the Voice Rec. software in about 20 minutes. 7 minutes install, 13 minutes Recognition testing... or whatever they call it 'signing in' I think.
I've used the program while on irc some, and while dictating some documents. It's all windows based, but they have made some serious strides. I like it. They're promising Mac versions of things soon, but had no plans for linux, (at the time I talked to them).
Some other things we talked about are covered in a non-disclosure, so I can't mention those... sorry.
They're cool people... and their marketing drones are freindly, relatively technically savvy people.
OK Mr. and Mrs. Cable company. We want you to spend millions and even maybe billions of dollars (overall) on upgrading your plant and then we're going to insist that you allow Joe Anyone to use your network at some ridiculously low cost, therefore not allowing you to get any return on your investment for yourself.
Ummm... you've got to let the cable companies make some of their money back. If you fail to do this, there will be little incentive to have the cable companies make all these upgrades.
I can just see everyone bitching over who gets what transmit and receive frequencies on the CATV wires... it'll be damn interesting, and I've the feeling that the way some manufacturers control their hardware, you'll have interferences galore if you start mixing systems on a common cable plant. *sigh*
?Huh? Where does this homophobia on slashdot come into the picture? The comment about the segfault thing is that 'it's funny'. I dont see anything in the post about anyone being gay. What the hell brought on this complaint?
If it's because someone on segfault has posted something antigay, then the slashdot people aren't to blame. Go bitch at segfault.
I'm just confused as to where this came from?
(and users comments are just that, comments of users, not necessarily those of slashdot).
Yes, in the acid drop scene he was appearing to direct the winds.... possibly meant to be 'winds of change' and when he was at the beach house for the party,throwing the frisbees out to everyone, he was making the motions of conducting as well... so it was as if the hallucination came to be. And heck, one could maybe even argue that it was at the beach house and there was a new tide coming in, but that's a little far fetched for me.
Regardless, the acid scene was prelude to a later scene.
Turn on serial console, and use something like a Cisco 2511 as a terminal server. For the remote reboot stuff, you can simply use the above link and get telnet-able power control. Pretty neato.
You can have a logging machine connect to each serial port of each server via the 2511 and use that for logging the console information. So whomever says that you cannot get all the boot info from a linux box remotely was very wrong.
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> With only a few tweaks, most (if not all) of
> the security holes in IIS are covered
Reboot after all those patches too, then be sure to reapply all the service packs you might have to.
> As for Apache, you always have to upgrade the
> entire server (can you say downtime?)
Yes, that would take a lot of downtime...
killall httpd ; $pathto/httpd
or
/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S85httpd restart (for the RedHat people - maybe others)
lots of down time there, how many milliseconds was that?
All the configuration for an upgrade of anything on linux can be done while the existing server still runs. You can even test it by running it on some other port in the meantime. Then when ready, kill the oldversion, start the new version. Downtime of seconds. How many minutes will it take to reboot an NT machine for changing something
like the ip address?
> and maybe even the Linux/BSD kernel (can you say
> MORE downtime?).
Again, how long will it take to reboot the machine for a kernel upgrade? 2 minutes? 3 minutes? The same amount of time it would take to reboot a windows machine for any number of upgrades/changes/etc. But the linux/BDS reboot is only necessary to upgrade the kernel, and not to upgrade the software running on the machine.
AS far as rating downtime of NT vs Linux for maintenance reasons, I think your reasoning is all wet.
yacko
If you had read slashdot, you would have realized that your partner already posted this. Wake up, have some more caffeine or something... please...
yack0
Where can you get a $13 Stephen King hardcover? Please let us all know. Thanks.
"There's a colocation facility available that uses nothing but solar power for their machines and local net."
There's nothing about people being able to co-locate servers at this site. It's a web hosting facility. Another fine instance of great journalism accuract from Slashdot.
*sigh*
Why would ISP's hate it? A simple modem flashing will fix all the modems up with no problem. Going from V.90 to the V.90 and Kflex and the combinations thereof were not a problem for any hardware I have used and am familiar with. When the V.92 standard is released by the hardware manufacturer we use, we'll simply let a script update all the modems and reboot. We'll be upgraded in about 10 minutes. (not bad for over 2000 lines).
No, there are not (only) three installments. The Faq:
--quote--
How many installments will there be?
That depends on your honesty. If more than 75% of you pay, it rolls. Any less, it folds.
When does the next installment come online?
The second installment will go up August 21st. If people show that they can be trusted to pay, then the third installment will go up in September. We will keep you posted about later installments.
-- end faq quoting--
There will be enough installments to finish the novel. That means enough to finish the story. They will post when they have more info about more installments.
Darn those FAQs, always telling people correct information.
Gee.. I'll trust the hondas for a long time. The first one (a 1979 CVCC model) got 165K on it before it's poor battered and bruised carcass was towed off... (I was a teenager and it was my high school car - I but the crap out of it and was surprised it lasted so long).
:) just tripped 200K. I'm incredibly happy with the performance of the car (it'll jump whenever I want it too, and still asks 'how high' when I do it). It can do over 120 if I want (yeah, it takes a while, and I only did it once, at about 10000ft in altitude) and it still gets over 40 MPG. Last trip was around 45.
:) and she drives more conservatively than I.
My latest one, a 1992 LX (yeah, it's the BOFH car
My wifes honda, a 1994 DX gets well over 50 MPG, though it's not as comfy as mine
Of course, it just seems like you're a maniacal mopar gearhead and wouldn't trust anything other than a mopar part, regardless of whether it was better or not. Fanatacism.... go fig...
Their software is free to the end user. It is free. It is not open source. It doesn't claim to be. Just because you, as a programmer, hacker, whatever label you want on you, think of 'free' as freeware, opensource, whatever, doesn't mean it is so.
Slashdot may be exclusively written with your eye in mind, but sun's marketing drones don't do that.
yacko
It could be.... When someone does something for charity, they do it for one of two reasons. 1) It's the right thing to do, or their chosen way to support X cause. 2) They're doing it because the charity work reflects well on them. Consider the fact the Al Gore gave out around $15,000 in charitable contributions last year, way way up from his numbers in 1998 of only a few hundred dollars. Dan Quayle, while in the VP seat under George bush gave donations of ~17k, $2934, 3624, and 5670, respectively. A big hit while he and George were campaigning that first year, then a drop an consistent increases as the re-election year approached. Making some product and 'giving away the proceeeds to charity' IS self promotion if you tell everyone, from the get-go, that you ARE giving it all away. You are promoting your own philanthropy. Producing a book and putting a note in the liner, or title page saying 'all proceeds from this book have gone to charity' isn't. It's kind of like shouting out "Look at me and the good work I do" rather than letting the other people whisper it for you. The true philanthropist gives because he/she wants and feels it helps people, that his/her money can be beneficial in some way. Also, the idea that "the proceeds are going to an unknown cause" raises question. What charity? Does anyone EVER name the charity that the money went to? I doubt it would happen here if nobody raised this point. Now that the point is raised though, we'll get an update when a decision is made, I'm sure. And continued selfpromotion of Taco's "look - my girlfriend helped - go see her website" also is self promoting. The whole thing smacks of self promotion, by the folks at Slashdot and also at Andover. But, I suppose that's simply because the ad revenues aren't quite enough to pay 'ed.' their money and pay for the bandwidth this site requires. Gotta publish a book on it. Be a philanthropist for philanthropy's sake, not for your own. And, may I close with a quote from the bottom of the slashdot home page: "Comments are owned by the Poster."
A note, King isn't going to spend a penny of the surplus on this project. None. He intends to put $50million into a trust fund and pay for the computers off the interest of that trust fund. Don't want people to be confused by this. Also, as far as addressing repairs to schools, the funding for that has gone up, I think 42% (I think that's the number that was touted) and there are other parts of the surplus directoed towards those ends. Of course, in recent days, the propsal has been carved down to $30million, with which to make a trust fund for 'computer technology' in school. That's very general, and isn't that what E-rate was supposed to do? (yeah I know - e-rate was only for connecting the schools to the internet - and a 'not so great network' they're using for it). It's likely that King's plan will go down in flames but they will direct a substantial part of the surplus towards school technology things via a trust fund. Check the latest stories at http://www.centralmaine.com/statehouse/ to see how King's proposal is faring in the budget process.
Hey, those fully enclosed racks look TOO damn cool with the smoked plexi front door... though we've found that many of the hardware items (Big Cisco Routers, NetApps) don't fit right inside the rack, or if they do - you can't close both the front and back door. So we make trade offs... keeping the front door on and the back door off :) They look so wonderfully cool... and the racks cost $1500 - not $500. :)
Sure... I downloaded several MP3's from MP3.com of a celtic band. I loved em. I memorized em. I sang em. Then, I caught up with someone who actually knows the band and can get their CD'S (They're not available in stores). I had this person get the CD's and from all the people who downloaded these MP3s from MP3.com, they probably sold an extra 12 albums. Sure, not many overall, but we now know about them and want to bring them East for some show dates... now that will be worthwhile for them... and if they get picked up by some major label due to this, then they're doing even better. That's how it helps.
One of the other things brought out in the report was the difficulty for some people to get treatment, or more specifically, fear of getting treatment. The stigma of being diagnosed with a mental illness or mental deficiency is often enough to keep people from receiving treatment. Constant use of epithets like 'nuts' help perpetuate the stereotypes of mentally ill people as being drooling incompetent people, or homicidal maniacs.
Naw.. why bother posting another 'review' which is simply a bulleted listing of 'good' vs. 'bad' points of a book. It simply shows the typical review quality (or lack thereof) of many slashdot reviews.
Looks like the last was not 'nuf said'.
yack0
Shall I paraphrase the review?
"Read my old review. They fixed all the problems I mentioned in that old review. Go buy this book.".
That has to be one of the most lame reviews I've ever seen.
*sigh*
yack0
http://www.mint.net/~yacko/timesq.ram
I met some of their marketing folks at a recent tech show in Maine (yeah, in Maine!). I talked with them for 20 minutes about some things and I got a sweatshirt, but I also talked to them about many other things. They have a really cool tape device - well digital recorder - which plugs in with their Voice Recognition software. It's very cool.
Their Voice recognition is pretty decent, but I haven't played around with it enough to figure out how to add workds. I was up and runniing with the Voice Rec. software in about 20 minutes. 7 minutes install, 13 minutes Recognition testing... or whatever they call it 'signing in' I think.
I've used the program while on irc some, and while dictating some documents. It's all windows based, but they have made some serious strides. I like it. They're promising Mac versions of things soon, but had no plans for linux, (at the time I talked to them).
Some other things we talked about are covered in a non-disclosure, so I can't mention those... sorry.
They're cool people... and their marketing drones are freindly, relatively technically savvy people.
yacko
> but what would the logo be?
:)
http://www.thinkgeek.com/geekgod/
I'd be reasonably sure that Alan wouldn't mind. Especially if it made people buy the shirts.
Of course, that DOES make it 100% amer-centric a logo.
In the Millenium Falcon bit.... who the #$@^ is Obi-one? It's Obi-Wan... WAN... wide area network. Obi-WAN...
:)
*mantra of waaaaaaaannnnnnnnn wannnnnnnnnnn*
But a damn fine job on the lego Falcon.
OK Mr. and Mrs. Cable company. We want you to spend millions and even maybe billions of dollars (overall) on upgrading your plant and then we're going to insist that you allow Joe Anyone to use your network at some ridiculously low cost, therefore not allowing you to get any return on your investment for yourself.
Ummm... you've got to let the cable companies make some of their money back. If you fail to do this, there will be little incentive to have the cable companies make all these upgrades.
I can just see everyone bitching over who gets what transmit and receive frequencies on the CATV wires... it'll be damn interesting, and I've the feeling that the way some manufacturers control their hardware, you'll have interferences galore if you start mixing systems on a common cable plant. *sigh*
Ah yes... sorry... had the threshhold screening that one out I guess. that makes more sense now.. :)
?Huh? Where does this homophobia on slashdot come into the picture? The comment about the segfault thing is that 'it's funny'. I dont see anything in the post about anyone being gay. What the hell brought on this complaint?
If it's because someone on segfault has posted something antigay, then the slashdot people aren't to blame. Go bitch at segfault.
I'm just confused as to where this came from?
(and users comments are just that, comments of users, not necessarily those of slashdot).
Ack.. coming to the aid of slashdot? wow...
Thank you slashdot for perpetuating Urban legend.
Yes, in the acid drop scene he was appearing to direct the winds.... possibly meant to be 'winds of change' and when he was at the beach house for the party ,throwing the frisbees out to everyone, he was making the motions of conducting as well... so it was as if the hallucination came to be. And heck, one could maybe even argue that it was at the beach house and there was a new tide coming in, but that's a little far fetched for me.
Regardless, the acid scene was prelude to a later scene.
Turn on serial console, and use something like a Cisco 2511 as a terminal server. For the remote reboot stuff, you can simply use the above link and get telnet-able power control. Pretty neato.
You can have a logging machine connect to each serial port of each server via the 2511 and use that for logging the console information. So whomever says that you cannot get all the boot info from a linux box remotely was very wrong.
Good luck