Correction: When will some of you get it through your head? Not all cable systems are 'shared bandwidth' that you are thinking of. While the pipes running around the nodes have their maximal bandwidth (typically somewhere between 8 - 15 Mbit) and _a lot_ of the cable modem people are selling their services on a 'full open' pipe to the customer (a la 'here's a ten meg pipe, use it') there are plenty of other companies (notably those on Terayon Cable Systems and SOME of the road runner systems) that do not sell the big pipe for all to share. These newer setups sell a piece of pipe (in 56k increments) to the customers and can guarantee bandwidth (if they want). While it is up to the provider to ensure they don't oversell their bandwidth, they are not letting a couple of wares leeches steal all the bandwidth. And don't confuse this with metered usage either. (the example is that most of the people I know with cable modems here have a 128k connection, 128k down, 64 up or some similar thing - and while the entire pipe is shared, they (the ISP) has not sold 200Meg worth of use (they still have not reached a point where it's a concern)) So, you're not all at the mercy of the two or three warez pirates on the cable modem system. Let's keep up here people.
Comment: Bad Thing. And I predict will be overturned. To expect AT&T or any other cable company to just rollover and turn over all the infrastructure they've been pouring billions of dollars into is ridiculous. And, if the decision stands, how quickly do you think that these cable providers will be upgrading the out of date systems to handle two-way data. I can tell you, plans will grind to a deafening halt. If there's no pipes to run through, they can't share them, can they?
The FCC, in it's recent comments, has decided that it will not interfere, or allow interference in, the internet industry, at least not while William Kennard is in charge. Once all the infrastructure is in place, that will be the time to allow other peopel to use it, but let the cable companies get things built and running first. This is a Bad Thing that's been done.
This statement is not true. "Cable networks are just like Ethernet networks, packets can be sniffed by anybody because the protocol is not address based and everybody shares the same data pipe. "
SOME cable networks are like this, @home, Road Runner. There are many cable systems that do not have this setup. Please, keep this in mind. Thanks for trying to learn something by reading this post:)
It's all overhyped yes. Here's the solution: Commercial for something star wars comes on, hit mute. Or change the station. Dont go to Pizza Hut. Dont go to Taco Hell. Dont buy Pepsi (yuck anyway). Dont buy an action figure. Dont buy Star Wars shaving cream (no shit, there I was, in Walmart... ) Dont buy any of the souvenirs at all. Dont write about it and hype it even more. and last but not least, Dont go and see the freaking movie!
Of course, if you dont go see the movie, that will be an article you'll miss out on writing.
BTW, I'm puzzled, you say in another post that you didnt get money for RttM? And yet you're promoting it on C-span and here and other shows.... who's getting that money? You're getting nothing? How is it that you make your living?
So... sorry we won't hear that TPM review from you Jon, since you won't be seeing the overhyped movie. Or maybe I'm sorry I will see that review.
I've recently been selling some penguins, which would really look cool at a board meeting, really!, but am also considering some other things. We're working on a couple designs for embroidered polo shirts and we might also consider embroidering other things. Perhaps some ties might work. We're open to adding some things to our 'product line' but as a sideline business, we cannot front what it takes for 2500 coffee mugs and things like that. If there's enough interest, embroidery is the easiest thing for me to do. I have the ability to embroider any BMP you've got onto something, but of course different cloth gives different results. If you have an idea, I'm open to trying it. LEt me know.. personal email address is below (or is it above?:)
a bunch of us got new machiens this spring. One of us got dual celeron 300A PPGA and these adapter boards. He's got a $200 (for CPU's) dual PII450 now. Works like a charm.
Why do we need to wait for more network upgrades for a terabyte in a day? Where is the bottleneck in this situation? Do we know? Or are we just spouting out that 'oh, it's the network thats slow' because it sounds good. OF course, that was the last second comment on the post, so that's probably the case.
I don't see that there would be much problem in boosting the total G services by 31G! Only 7% more! But heck, it made a great line to end the story on (yeah ok).
Regarding 'the web' you write that you 'fell in love with it the moment I went online eight years ago'. That's pretty cool. How was that NexT box you were using? Because in 1991, the only OS that had a 'web browser' per se was NexT.
This is one of my pet peeves. I hear it all the time that so-and-so web designer (usually the guy who grabs MS Front Page demo and puts up a sign) has been publishing web pages 'for well over ten years now' or that they've been 'online' since 1962 or some such crap. While I do admit that one can be 'online' without being 'on the web' (whereas most AOhell people think that online=web) and that online can even mean, yes, dare I say, NOT on the internet. Wow.. what a revalation... but I digress..
Mr Katz, I'm interested in hearing when you first know about the WWW. Myself, I was learning about 'hypertext' from a fellow student who was doing a paper on the topic back in 1992. I was, at the time, using email, USEnet, IRC and this coolest of cool things, gopher. The WWW as we've come to know it didn't really hit it's stride until 1992, or even 1993, following the release of Mosiac in February 1993. Even still, the web (port 80)was only 1% of all the NSF Backbone traffic by September of that same year.
Mr. Katz, you know better than to try and impress US with numbers and pissing contests. Don't bullshit us. Now I remember why I stopped reading your posts. They don't speak for _me_ or the people I work with. They don't speak for the people I know in this industry.
I would also be VERY careful telling people that the 'secret signal' is also a symbol for you getting your throat slit. That's just plain stupid. I can see where the media would take THAT.
LArry King: So what's with this secret symbol I hear about, all these geeks wanting to kill you? Katz: Well Larry, I told them to do it and damned if I wasn't surprised when that crazy guy actually came up behind me and slit my own throat, but hell, I don't think the artificial voice box is too bad, do you?
Well... I suppose I should just go back to editing this web page of mine that I've had for ten years now, and maybe I'll call Al Gore to ask for some advice on this routing problem....
PHB watches CNN. PHB sees this 'linux' thing and might be disgrutnled about MS already. PHB realizes there might be an alternative to MS, despite was MS marketing drones tell him. PHB might actually listen to MIS people who have already said 'This sucks, give us more power cap n'
PHB may actually consider it now, simply because it's on CNN, a 'reputable' (to the PHB) channel where this PHB get's their info.
Also, as pointed out by many, this was a BUSINESS piece... if you don't get a clue about that already, please go away and stop telling people about it. You're doing us all a dis-service.
Bad piece: go into store and say 'there's only four linux titles'. Well. . yo uwere holding LINUX the OS, nto a program for linux and all you have to do is goto a local RPM mirror to find some 34,000 rpms for linux, not to mention all the programs that aren't RPM'd! Tons of software out there, just that nobody is charging for them. That kind of frosted me a little....
Remember, publicity good. Giving a history lesson on Linux on a business show: bad. Showing how a company (redhat) is making tons of money from a product that's free... gee.. ya think that the PHB's might find that interesting? Product costs 0, sell for $50. That's a key thing for the PHB's to hear! Stop whining about the things that were not mentioned and be thankful for what WAS mentioned. Awareness. Awareness.
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WaiYip is selling them wholesale to people. I'm one of those people. If you want em in the US, let me know. If you want em outside US, I've seen them for AUD$17 searching altavista for 'tux linux penguin' and USD$10 from other sources. I've got em for $8 +shipping. You can also order em by the boatload from WaiYip directly. If you're interested in a few, feel free to check out my page: penguins . We're planning on doing a photo shoot with ours as well, but we have to wrench the digital camera from someones hands. If you have ideas for the photo shoot, let me know. I'm open to suggestion.
The most moving flick _I_ saw last year was American History X. It wasa damn good thing it was a matinee and I got to walk into the light of day afterwards, otherwise, would have really hit s nasty mood after it.
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Correction: When will some of you get it through your head? Not all cable systems are 'shared bandwidth' that you are thinking of. While the pipes running around the nodes have their maximal bandwidth (typically somewhere between 8 - 15 Mbit) and _a lot_ of the cable modem people are selling their services on a 'full open' pipe to the customer (a la 'here's a ten meg pipe, use it') there are plenty of other companies (notably those on Terayon Cable Systems and SOME of the road runner systems) that do not sell the big pipe for all to share. These newer setups sell a piece of pipe (in 56k increments) to the customers and can guarantee bandwidth (if they want). While it is up to the provider to ensure they don't oversell their bandwidth, they are not letting a couple of wares leeches steal all the bandwidth. And don't confuse this with metered usage either. (the example is that most of the people I know with cable modems here have a 128k connection, 128k down, 64 up or some similar thing - and while the entire pipe is shared, they (the ISP) has not sold 200Meg worth of use (they still have not reached a point where it's a concern))
So, you're not all at the mercy of the two or three warez pirates on the cable modem system. Let's keep up here people.
Comment:
Bad Thing. And I predict will be overturned. To expect AT&T or any other cable company to just rollover and turn over all the infrastructure they've been pouring billions of dollars into is ridiculous. And, if the decision stands, how quickly do you think that these cable providers will be upgrading the out of date systems to handle two-way data. I can tell you, plans will grind to a deafening halt. If there's no pipes to run through, they can't share them, can they?
The FCC, in it's recent comments, has decided that it will not interfere, or allow interference in, the internet industry, at least not while William Kennard is in charge. Once all the infrastructure is in place, that will be the time to allow other peopel to use it, but let the cable companies get things built and running first. This is a Bad Thing that's been done.
OK.... flame retardant clothes are on...
This statement is not true.
:)
"Cable networks are just like Ethernet networks, packets can be sniffed by anybody because the protocol is not address based and everybody shares the same data pipe. "
SOME cable networks are like this, @home, Road Runner. There are many cable systems that do not have this setup. Please, keep this in mind. Thanks for trying to learn something by reading this post
It's all overhyped yes. Here's the solution:
Commercial for something star wars comes on, hit mute. Or change the station.
Dont go to Pizza Hut.
Dont go to Taco Hell.
Dont buy Pepsi (yuck anyway).
Dont buy an action figure.
Dont buy Star Wars shaving cream (no shit, there I was, in Walmart... )
Dont buy any of the souvenirs at all.
Dont write about it and hype it even more.
and last but not least,
Dont go and see the freaking movie!
Of course, if you dont go see the movie, that will be an article you'll miss out on writing.
BTW, I'm puzzled, you say in another post that you didnt get money for RttM? And yet you're promoting it on C-span and here and other shows.... who's getting that money? You're getting nothing? How is it that you make your living?
So... sorry we won't hear that TPM review from you Jon, since you won't be seeing the overhyped movie. Or maybe I'm sorry I will see that review.
I've recently been selling some penguins, which would really look cool at a board meeting, really!, but am also considering some other things. We're working on a couple designs for embroidered polo shirts and we might also consider embroidering other things. Perhaps some ties might work. We're open to adding some things to our 'product line' but as a sideline business, we cannot front what it takes for 2500 coffee mugs and things like that. If there's enough interest, embroidery is the easiest thing for me to do. I have the ability to embroider any BMP you've got onto something, but of course different cloth gives different results. If you have an idea, I'm open to trying it. LEt me know.. personal email address is below (or is it above? :)
a bunch of us got new machiens this spring. One of us got dual celeron 300A PPGA and these adapter boards. He's got a $200 (for CPU's) dual PII450 now. Works like a charm.
He's using a Tyan motherboard.
Why do we need to wait for more network upgrades for a terabyte in a day? Where is the bottleneck in this situation? Do we know? Or are we just spouting out that 'oh, it's the network thats slow' because it sounds good. OF course, that was the last second comment on the post, so that's probably the case.
I don't see that there would be much problem in boosting the total G services by 31G! Only 7% more! But heck, it made a great line to end the story on (yeah ok).
yacko
many = four.
Just use 'fight training rules'. When one person encounters enemies, you count like this: one, two, lots, many, run away!
Therefore, many=four.
(ok.. so it's silly, but this discussion needed some humor).
He'd chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could - if a woodchuck could chuck wood.
Answered.
how the hell did this comment get a score of 2? Is that the default for all of Rob's posts? If some moderator scored it, you're one hell of a kiss up.
Regarding 'the web' you write that you 'fell in love with it the moment I went online eight years ago'. That's pretty cool. How was that NexT box you were using? Because in 1991, the only OS that had a 'web browser' per se was NexT.
This is one of my pet peeves. I hear it all the time that so-and-so web designer (usually the guy who grabs MS Front Page demo and puts up a sign) has been publishing web pages 'for well over ten years now' or that they've been 'online' since 1962 or some such crap. While I do admit that one can be 'online' without being 'on the web' (whereas most AOhell people think that online=web) and that online can even mean, yes, dare I say, NOT on the internet. Wow.. what a revalation... but I digress..
Mr Katz, I'm interested in hearing when you first know about the WWW. Myself, I was learning about 'hypertext' from a fellow student who was doing a paper on the topic back in 1992. I was, at the time, using email, USEnet, IRC and this coolest of cool things, gopher. The WWW as we've come to know it didn't really hit it's stride until 1992, or even 1993, following the release of Mosiac in February 1993. Even still, the web (port 80)was only 1% of all the NSF Backbone traffic by September of that same year.
Mr. Katz, you know better than to try and impress US with numbers and pissing contests. Don't bullshit us. Now I remember why I stopped reading your posts. They don't speak for _me_ or the people I work with. They don't speak for the people I know in this industry.
I would also be VERY careful telling people that the 'secret signal' is also a symbol for you getting your throat slit. That's just plain stupid. I can see where the media would take THAT.
LArry King: So what's with this secret symbol I hear about, all these geeks wanting to kill you?
Katz: Well Larry, I told them to do it and damned if I wasn't surprised when that crazy guy actually came up behind me and slit my own throat, but hell, I don't think the artificial voice box is too bad, do you?
Well... I suppose I should just go back to editing this web page of mine that I've had for ten years now, and maybe I'll call Al Gore to ask for some advice on this routing problem....
Here's your nickel Katz, go get a clue.
PHB watches CNN. PHB sees this 'linux' thing and might be disgrutnled about MS already. PHB realizes there might be an alternative to MS, despite was MS marketing drones tell him. PHB might actually listen to MIS people who have already said 'This sucks, give us more power cap
n'
PHB may actually consider it now, simply because it's on CNN, a 'reputable' (to the PHB) channel where this PHB get's their info.
Also, as pointed out by many, this was a BUSINESS piece... if you don't get a clue about that already, please go away and stop telling people about it. You're doing us all a dis-service.
Bad piece: go into store and say 'there's only four linux titles'. Well. . yo uwere holding LINUX the OS, nto a program for linux and all you have to do is goto a local RPM mirror to find some 34,000 rpms for linux, not to mention all the programs that aren't RPM'd! Tons of software out there, just that nobody is charging for them. That kind of frosted me a little....
Remember, publicity good. Giving a history lesson on Linux on a business show: bad. Showing how a company (redhat) is making tons of money from a product that's free... gee.. ya think that the PHB's might find that interesting? Product costs 0, sell for $50. That's a key thing for the PHB's to hear! Stop whining about the things that were not mentioned and be thankful for what WAS mentioned. Awareness. Awareness.
WaiYip is selling them wholesale to people. I'm one of those people. If you want em in the US, let me know. If you want em outside US, I've seen them for AUD$17 searching altavista for 'tux linux penguin' and USD$10 from other sources. I've got em for $8 +shipping. You can also order em by the boatload from WaiYip directly. If you're interested in a few, feel free to check out my page: penguins . We're planning on doing a photo shoot with ours as well, but we have to wrench the digital camera from someones hands. If you have ideas for the photo shoot, let me know. I'm open to suggestion.
Seems as though copyleft gets a lot of press for it's linuxx merchandise. Guess that happens when you buy banner ads.
http://www.mint.net/~yacko/penguin.html has some penguins! Buy some.
The most moving flick _I_ saw last year was American History X. It wasa damn good thing it was a matinee and I got to walk into the light of day afterwards, otherwise, would have really hit s nasty mood after it.