I would follow "Ask the Headhunter"'s advice and list my salary as confidential information, since my company considers it so. Since I signed an NDA when I joined, I am legally required to keep my salary private. Your future employer wouldn't want you to renege on their future NDA, so they certainly won't force you to renege on your current NDA. On the other hand, this does force you to prove your worth to the company, but that shouldn't be that hard....
Yep. Its called local unskilled and semi-skilled labor. Don't feel like going to college? Welcome to your new job. Don't feel like working hard, hiya. Don't want to compete? Hows it going.
But even this is slightly off the mark, because General Contractors, Plumbers, Electricians, etc already make more than your standard IT flunky. More than your standard IT Manager. And those jobs aren't going anywhere.
But if you don't want to compete, you will be a waitress. So? You thought you were going to get paid the current equivalent of approx 100k/yr to work on an assembly line? It kills me that people think jobs will be given to them, that they can live in the neighborhood they grew up in and get everything handed to them with no effort. Wake the fuck up. If your job gets sent overseas, then you chose poorly; the handwriting was on the wall and you didn't read it.
I am a little bothered when engineers go wanting for jobs, because we didn't get to party that hardy (usually) in college. But even there, I think it has more to do with folks not getting offered a job that they like, in the place they want to live. I see enough work for folks who want to work and planned ahead; most of the crying seems to be coming from people who didn't have any savings, made poor choices, and want something handed to them.
Funny thing is, Windows requires you to upgrade your sound card.... Its not suprising at all that win95 worked fine when his "virtualization" software made it look like a SB16. They have been around for a while. Now, try to run an SoundBlaster AWE 64 in a Win2k box. Oh, that's right, you can't. Because SoundBlaster didn't release drivers for it, Win2k can't use it. Works fine in Linux ALSA tho. This is a smear article; if you use the newest of everything windows drivers will work because the hardware vendors write windows drivers for their stuff. If they released the specs to their hardware and/or put one person on Linux drivers, or paid one kernel developer to write Linux drivers for their stuff, it would be supported. But most of them don't and we have tards like this blame Linux? Whatever.
Dude, I can't even trust "normal" mechanics to replace wheel bearings on a '69 Camaro. I don't trust anyone to work on my cars, unless its a new car at the dealer under warranty. As soon as its off warranty, it'll never see the inside of a shop again. Most mechanics are brain dead, and for the difficulty of finding a non-brain dead mechanic I can do it myself. Notice I said difficulty not cost; I have no problem paying their rate if they can do the damn job. But finding even minimally competent mechanics to work on a car is insanely difficult.
I gotta tell you, this makes me think twice before going to the theatres, as if the 9$/person and intimate contact with the greater unwashed didn't give me pause before. But its like chasing CD "pirates"; makes me not want to buy CDs. If CD sales are down, perhaps its because of gestapo tactics, so if/when movie takes drop, I guess we will have confirmation. Funny when the Haves complain to the HaveNots about how their activities are causing them pain. Its such a hollow argument. And portrays the entire "industry" in the same light. One of these days the artists will realize that their representative bodies are ruining their craft and take it back. Or they will get outsourced/offshored.
No No No, Social Security just screws Gen X to the benefit of the baby boomers. They will suck the program dry just about the time we should be getting our payments out of it. So your statement that it screws us all is wrong; just Gen X gets screwed. Gen Y will have paid very little into the system by the time it fails so they will have no appreciable stake. Isn't tyranny of the majority great?
I am tired of this argument; if the Music Companies were selling the right to listen to the music then I could exchange my old scratched up CDs for new ones for a buck or less. The fact that this requires 18$ alone is reason enough to shaft them at every opportunity. They have screwed with their markets and their consumers for too long, and the market is sticking it to them at every possible opportunity. Music Companies are going to sit on their catalogs and screw their artists and customers until they are forced by the market to change. This is an instrument of change. People need to remember that we get to make and change the laws; ones cast in stone went out with Hammurabi.
Fsck man, you may be right...it might have been just to share out printers and stuff. It was all about the same time, but I may have just been talking out of my ass up there. Good catch. Doom was still the reason we installed the network tho! Which at this point is totally OT.
It may not have been "specifically" written for WfW 3.11, but it was damn sure a _requirement_ for running Doom II on LANs.... I installed WfW 3.11 and my first home network for that game. In fact, it caused almost everyone I knew for years to buy/have 10base2 (or combo) ethernet cards in their computers so they could hook up to all of the early-adopter home networks, because those houses had the LAN Parties!
Hey man, that's just competition in action. If Georgia has useless laws like this (read: all alcohol laws in the south; not being able to buy keg beer in Auburn even in bars, Sunday laws, etc) then change states. You have 49 competitors to Georgia to choose from. That's why the framers were so adamant about protecting state's rights; if all states choose to forbid something then the people had spoken. If one or several states didn't forbid something, then people who wanted that "something" would gravitate to the states that allowed it. In California, we can buy hard alcohol in the grocery store (no ABC, period). Guess how much less I pay for a fifth of kickin chicken?
Hey man, even IBM doesn't care too much about the college degree, if you know what you are doing (eg. professional hire).... And I like working for IBM. Its a very nice environment, and I like working with the best in the business. As to the story, perhaps more people would get Eng/Sci degrees if the unemployment rate for Eng/Sci wasn't roughly equivalent to the broader population. Its pretty annoying to know that people I went to school with who got their degrees by studying their asses off are just as unemployed as the fitness majors who got to party hardy for five years....
Yeah, that's it, use the work of one utopian idealogue to criticize another. On to the issue: The above might be true if markets were static. But they are not. Witness the American auto industry during the period 1970-1990. If the market leaders do the above, they all suffer when the market changes and a competitor outside of their influence shows up. Then they have to overcome their own stagnation or fail. See Chrysler. Marx missed this because he forgot that markets are global, not local. Witness the time frames he talks about; all based on Europe being the only market worth considering, and considering it to the exclusion of all others. Now, when all markets are global and we are subject to one set of laws, Marx may turn out to be right, but we are not there yet so Marx is irrelevant.
Yeah, and the reason they left Poland was for opportunity, safety, security, etc. All bought and paid for by your ancestors and mine with blood or money or both. The least they could do is PAY THEIR DAMN TAXES, since they shift the burden onto me when they don't. And that's the fucking point; I could go buy a nice house too if the federal/state taxes taken out of my check every two weeks stayed in my hands as they stay in theirs. Screwing your neighbors to get ahead may be prevalent but that doesn't make it right. That goes for anyone here; don't like it, vote out those who spend too much. But shirking your civic duty is just what makes Poland/everywhere else that people escape from happen.
So, let me get this straight. Your cousins show up here, take advantage of this country's generosity by not treating them like dirt as an immigrant. He works hard, PAYS NO TAXES, and builds a house that costs 3x the national average. Yeah, great fucking advice. So the rest of us paying ~1/3 of our income (In income taxes alone!) goes to support your cousins who pay no damn taxes. Ah, the American Dream is alive and well, if you are willing to cheat and steal. What the fuck else is new....
Great fucking advice. My advice? Go back to fucking Poland and quit sucking money out of my goddamn wallet. I have no fucking problem, whatsoever, with immigrants. I think they are the soul of this country, but people who take advantage of my generosity get no sympathy. Go home, please? Is that better? Goddamn. How fucking stupid are you?
Wait until we have "dogfood"ed (ack, what a useless word) the internal Linux client for a while and then see. While one of our engineers may have said that in passing, its probably not true. Linux might just not be ready for your application or you may have insisted on (or are selling) a feature set that only MS software provided. IGS would I am sure love to make a pile of money in the out years of the contract, if a switch to Linux would cause such a pile to materialize....
Mr Jones, So, a major Closed Source OS vendor including specific checks for software that competes with that vendor's other software offerings and refuses to work or crashes when the competing software is launched is not a possibility? No, its a fact, and Microsoft did it. Articles like these simply allow Open Source Software users and authors to ignore their writers indefinately actually, since it is obvious that authors such as yourself do not understand the core principles of Open Source.
I have a large number of analogies that might make sense to you, here is one. Closed Source: I like to work on cars. I have an idea for a car that I would like to build. I build my car. I show it. Painfully over a period of years, from looking at other custom cars, I come up with one that I really like and then maintain it because I enjoy it.
The Closed Source Analouge: I like to code. I have an idea for some code that I would like to write. I write the code and distribute as closed source shareware. Painfully, over a period of years, from user observations and using other code, I come up with something that really serves my needs, that I maintain because I enjoy it.
Open Source: I like to work on cars. I have an idea for a car that I would like to build. I build a prototype of my car. I show it to the world and explain my idea. Other people who like to build cars may or may not help by randomly showing up in my garage and wrenching, bringing cool tools, paint, parts, etc. Other people will suggest improvements or point out flaws. In a matter of months, the initial build is done and I get to use the car I like and copies of my car are available to anyone who wants to test drive it or use it everyday. Further improvements arrive and I oversee their addition to the car. It weighs less, goes faster, is more comfortable, and does things I couldn't have dreamed of because it leverages the skill, talent, and needs of everyone who liked the idea. I maintain it, or allow others to maintain it, because its is a tour de force in the automotive realm and suits my needs better than any other car in existence.
Open Source Analogue: See above, inserting code for car.
Now, I ask you, would we let anyone run a grinder over my beautiful car? Would we be any less observant of the additions being made than the single shareware author? Would anyone else working on the car allow a malcontent to destroy the engine?
Once it is out of my hands and in the community, the probability of changes you describe occurring are lost in the noise compared to the probability that a major vendor will try to handicap its competitors. As has been SEEN in the past and will be SEEN in the future. You really shouldn't comment on things you don't truely understand.To believe that people whose hearts and souls are intwined in something have less motive to maintain the purity of their code compared to people who are punching a timeclock and subject to the whims of managers, deadlines, competition, and cost containment is a manifest misunderstanding of the nature of man.
Stop playing chicken little and take off the tinfoil hat.
Jesus dude; they make over 100% profit on the consumer OS division. Most companies are happy with a 20-30% gross margin. They are not spending the MONEY to create a good product, nevermind any intrinsic problems the Company may have. It is rediculous to know that a problem exists for six months and not fix it. No matter how much testing they do. Which, obviously, isn't enough. Look at the margin again; any product with margins like that is monopoly/bad service. No other way to cut it. And you APOLOGIZE for them. People amaze me.
Or start, run, net user * enter password enter password again Which is my favorite; I guess there are clicky ways to do it too, but I don't know them and they are slow.
Uh, yeah, some people like to make things difficult, most of us just like being able to do stuff quickly. The command line is fast as hell, what you are looking for is maybe a graphical interface to standard unix tools? If so, have at it, can't be that hard. They will be slow since you have to click click click your way through them tho. If you have a better idea, code it up and show it to us. Maybe you are scared of being part of a meritocracy?
I'm sure the news broadcaster industry will be up in arms when the radio networks outsource their broadcasts to India tho. Don't they see the handwriting on the wall?
Yeah, uh, explain exactly what Solaris is good for? Hardware is over 5 grand, its slower than last year's PC, it has essentially the same external hardware (harddrive, video, etc). Are you seriously suggesting that this computer, as reviewed, is faster, more stable, or more reliable than a Linux workstation with the same or better video card, dual opterons, 2-4x the RAM, and raid 0 (!)? Which would end up being cheaper. Oh, and if you need software support, put RHEL WS/ES on it, and get name brand support.
Sun hardware hasn't been more reliable since at least the ultrasparc II age, and the OS is no picnic either. Any OS that spontaneously reboots when a non-system filesystem fills up is not robust, sorry to say.
No kidding. I find it amusing that a frightfully large percentage of middle-upper class adolescent boys are being medicated with, for all intents and purposes, low grade meth. Anyone here know any long term crank addicts? Notice how they are totally fucked up in the head even after they get cleaned up? Now we medicate our kids with this shit? Face it GenX, we get to pay for the inattention of today's parents. If you got any research on reversing the effects of long term stimulant abuse, I think you have a real money making opportunity in the future, until all the health care money gets spent on taking care of our rapidly aging population for free and their amphetamine addicted kids.
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I would follow "Ask the Headhunter"'s advice and list my salary as confidential information, since my company considers it so. Since I signed an NDA when I joined, I am legally required to keep my salary private. Your future employer wouldn't want you to renege on their future NDA, so they certainly won't force you to renege on your current NDA. On the other hand, this does force you to prove your worth to the company, but that shouldn't be that hard....
andy
Yep. Its called local unskilled and semi-skilled labor. Don't feel like going to college? Welcome to your new job. Don't feel like working hard, hiya. Don't want to compete? Hows it going.
But even this is slightly off the mark, because General Contractors, Plumbers, Electricians, etc already make more than your standard IT flunky. More than your standard IT Manager. And those jobs aren't going anywhere.
But if you don't want to compete, you will be a waitress. So? You thought you were going to get paid the current equivalent of approx 100k/yr to work on an assembly line? It kills me that people think jobs will be given to them, that they can live in the neighborhood they grew up in and get everything handed to them with no effort. Wake the fuck up. If your job gets sent overseas, then you chose poorly; the handwriting was on the wall and you didn't read it.
I am a little bothered when engineers go wanting for jobs, because we didn't get to party that hardy (usually) in college. But even there, I think it has more to do with folks not getting offered a job that they like, in the place they want to live. I see enough work for folks who want to work and planned ahead; most of the crying seems to be coming from people who didn't have any savings, made poor choices, and want something handed to them.
andy
Funny thing is, Windows requires you to upgrade your sound card.... Its not suprising at all that win95 worked fine when his "virtualization" software made it look like a SB16. They have been around for a while. Now, try to run an SoundBlaster AWE 64 in a Win2k box. Oh, that's right, you can't. Because SoundBlaster didn't release drivers for it, Win2k can't use it. Works fine in Linux ALSA tho. This is a smear article; if you use the newest of everything windows drivers will work because the hardware vendors write windows drivers for their stuff. If they released the specs to their hardware and/or put one person on Linux drivers, or paid one kernel developer to write Linux drivers for their stuff, it would be supported. But most of them don't and we have tards like this blame Linux? Whatever.
andy
Dude, I can't even trust "normal" mechanics to replace wheel bearings on a '69 Camaro. I don't trust anyone to work on my cars, unless its a new car at the dealer under warranty. As soon as its off warranty, it'll never see the inside of a shop again. Most mechanics are brain dead, and for the difficulty of finding a non-brain dead mechanic I can do it myself. Notice I said difficulty not cost; I have no problem paying their rate if they can do the damn job. But finding even minimally competent mechanics to work on a car is insanely difficult.
andy
I gotta tell you, this makes me think twice before going to the theatres, as if the 9$/person and intimate contact with the greater unwashed didn't give me pause before. But its like chasing CD "pirates"; makes me not want to buy CDs. If CD sales are down, perhaps its because of gestapo tactics, so if/when movie takes drop, I guess we will have confirmation.
Funny when the Haves complain to the HaveNots about how their activities are causing them pain. Its such a hollow argument. And portrays the entire "industry" in the same light. One of these days the artists will realize that their representative bodies are ruining their craft and take it back. Or they will get outsourced/offshored.
Enjoy your dope.
andy
No No No, Social Security just screws Gen X to the benefit of the baby boomers. They will suck the program dry just about the time we should be getting our payments out of it. So your statement that it screws us all is wrong; just Gen X gets screwed. Gen Y will have paid very little into the system by the time it fails so they will have no appreciable stake. Isn't tyranny of the majority great?
andy
I am tired of this argument; if the Music Companies were selling the right to listen to the music then I could exchange my old scratched up CDs for new ones for a buck or less. The fact that this requires 18$ alone is reason enough to shaft them at every opportunity. They have screwed with their markets and their consumers for too long, and the market is sticking it to them at every possible opportunity. Music Companies are going to sit on their catalogs and screw their artists and customers until they are forced by the market to change. This is an instrument of change. People need to remember that we get to make and change the laws; ones cast in stone went out with Hammurabi.
andy
got an address? Or do I have to check the README like samba?
andy
Fsck man, you may be right...it might have been just to share out printers and stuff. It was all about the same time, but I may have just been talking out of my ass up there. Good catch. Doom was still the reason we installed the network tho! Which at this point is totally OT.
andy
It may not have been "specifically" written for WfW 3.11, but it was damn sure a _requirement_ for running Doom II on LANs.... I installed WfW 3.11 and my first home network for that game. In fact, it caused almost everyone I knew for years to buy/have 10base2 (or combo) ethernet cards in their computers so they could hook up to all of the early-adopter home networks, because those houses had the LAN Parties!
andy
Hey man, that's just competition in action. If Georgia has useless laws like this (read: all alcohol laws in the south; not being able to buy keg beer in Auburn even in bars, Sunday laws, etc) then change states. You have 49 competitors to Georgia to choose from. That's why the framers were so adamant about protecting state's rights; if all states choose to forbid something then the people had spoken. If one or several states didn't forbid something, then people who wanted that "something" would gravitate to the states that allowed it. In California, we can buy hard alcohol in the grocery store (no ABC, period). Guess how much less I pay for a fifth of kickin chicken?
andy
Hey man, even IBM doesn't care too much about the college degree, if you know what you are doing (eg. professional hire).... And I like working for IBM. Its a very nice environment, and I like working with the best in the business. As to the story, perhaps more people would get Eng/Sci degrees if the unemployment rate for Eng/Sci wasn't roughly equivalent to the broader population. Its pretty annoying to know that people I went to school with who got their degrees by studying their asses off are just as unemployed as the fitness majors who got to party hardy for five years....
andy
Yeah, that's it, use the work of one utopian idealogue to criticize another. On to the issue: The above might be true if markets were static. But they are not. Witness the American auto industry during the period 1970-1990. If the market leaders do the above, they all suffer when the market changes and a competitor outside of their influence shows up. Then they have to overcome their own stagnation or fail. See Chrysler. Marx missed this because he forgot that markets are global, not local. Witness the time frames he talks about; all based on Europe being the only market worth considering, and considering it to the exclusion of all others. Now, when all markets are global and we are subject to one set of laws, Marx may turn out to be right, but we are not there yet so Marx is irrelevant.
andy
Yeah, and the reason they left Poland was for opportunity, safety, security, etc. All bought and paid for by your ancestors and mine with blood or money or both. The least they could do is PAY THEIR DAMN TAXES, since they shift the burden onto me when they don't. And that's the fucking point; I could go buy a nice house too if the federal/state taxes taken out of my check every two weeks stayed in my hands as they stay in theirs. Screwing your neighbors to get ahead may be prevalent but that doesn't make it right. That goes for anyone here; don't like it, vote out those who spend too much. But shirking your civic duty is just what makes Poland/everywhere else that people escape from happen.
andy
So, let me get this straight. Your cousins show up here, take advantage of this country's generosity by not treating them like dirt as an immigrant. He works hard, PAYS NO TAXES, and builds a house that costs 3x the national average. Yeah, great fucking advice. So the rest of us paying ~1/3 of our income (In income taxes alone!) goes to support your cousins who pay no damn taxes. Ah, the American Dream is alive and well, if you are willing to cheat and steal. What the fuck else is new....
Great fucking advice. My advice? Go back to fucking Poland and quit sucking money out of my goddamn wallet. I have no fucking problem, whatsoever, with immigrants. I think they are the soul of this country, but people who take advantage of my generosity get no sympathy. Go home, please? Is that better? Goddamn. How fucking stupid are you?
andy
That's funny, because this one app called explorer always crashes my windows box.
andy
100 Linux boxes? Ever hear of expect?
andy
Wait until we have "dogfood"ed (ack, what a useless word) the internal Linux client for a while and then see. While one of our engineers may have said that in passing, its probably not true. Linux might just not be ready for your application or you may have insisted on (or are selling) a feature set that only MS software provided. IGS would I am sure love to make a pile of money in the out years of the contract, if a switch to Linux would cause such a pile to materialize....
andy
Mr Jones,
So, a major Closed Source OS vendor including specific checks for software that competes with that vendor's other software offerings and refuses to work or crashes when the competing software is launched is not a possibility? No, its a fact, and Microsoft did it. Articles like these simply allow Open Source Software users and authors to ignore their writers indefinately actually, since it is obvious that authors such as yourself do not understand the core principles of Open Source.
I have a large number of analogies that might make sense to you, here is one.
Closed Source:
I like to work on cars. I have an idea for a car that I would like to build. I build my car. I show it. Painfully over a period of years, from looking at other custom cars, I come up with one that I really like and then maintain it because I enjoy it.
The Closed Source Analouge:
I like to code. I have an idea for some code that I would like to write. I write the code and distribute as closed source shareware. Painfully, over a period of years, from user observations and using other code, I come up with something that really serves my needs, that I maintain because I enjoy it.
Open Source:
I like to work on cars. I have an idea for a car that I would like to build. I build a prototype of my car. I show it to the world and explain my idea. Other people who like to build cars may or may not help by randomly showing up in my garage and wrenching, bringing cool tools, paint, parts, etc. Other people will suggest improvements or point out flaws. In a matter of months, the initial build is done and I get to use the car I like and copies of my car are available to anyone who wants to test drive it or use it everyday. Further improvements arrive and I oversee their addition to the car. It weighs less, goes faster, is more comfortable, and does things I couldn't have dreamed of because it leverages the skill, talent, and needs of everyone who liked the idea. I maintain it, or allow others to maintain it, because its is a tour de force in the automotive realm and suits my needs better than any other car in existence.
Open Source Analogue:
See above, inserting code for car.
Now, I ask you, would we let anyone run a grinder over my beautiful car? Would we be any less observant of the additions being made than the single shareware author? Would anyone else working on the car allow a malcontent to destroy the engine?
Once it is out of my hands and in the community, the probability of changes you describe occurring are lost in the noise compared to the probability that a major vendor will try to handicap its competitors. As has been SEEN in the past and will be SEEN in the future. You really shouldn't comment on things you don't truely understand.To believe that people whose hearts and souls are intwined in something have less motive to maintain the purity of their code compared to people who are punching a timeclock and subject to the whims of managers, deadlines, competition, and cost containment is a manifest misunderstanding of the nature of man.
Stop playing chicken little and take off the tinfoil hat.
andy
Jesus dude; they make over 100% profit on the consumer OS division. Most companies are happy with a 20-30% gross margin. They are not spending the MONEY to create a good product, nevermind any intrinsic problems the Company may have. It is rediculous to know that a problem exists for six months and not fix it. No matter how much testing they do. Which, obviously, isn't enough. Look at the margin again; any product with margins like that is monopoly/bad service. No other way to cut it. And you APOLOGIZE for them. People amaze me.
andy
Or start, run, net user *
enter password
enter password again
Which is my favorite; I guess there are clicky ways to do it too, but I don't know them and they are slow.
andy
Uh, yeah, some people like to make things difficult, most of us just like being able to do stuff quickly. The command line is fast as hell, what you are looking for is maybe a graphical interface to standard unix tools? If so, have at it, can't be that hard. They will be slow since you have to click click click your way through them tho. If you have a better idea, code it up and show it to us. Maybe you are scared of being part of a meritocracy?
andy
I'm sure the news broadcaster industry will be up in arms when the radio networks outsource their broadcasts to India tho. Don't they see the handwriting on the wall?
andy
Yeah, uh, explain exactly what Solaris is good for? Hardware is over 5 grand, its slower than last year's PC, it has essentially the same external hardware (harddrive, video, etc). Are you seriously suggesting that this computer, as reviewed, is faster, more stable, or more reliable than a Linux workstation with the same or better video card, dual opterons, 2-4x the RAM, and raid 0 (!)? Which would end up being cheaper. Oh, and if you need software support, put RHEL WS/ES on it, and get name brand support.
Sun hardware hasn't been more reliable since at least the ultrasparc II age, and the OS is no picnic either. Any OS that spontaneously reboots when a non-system filesystem fills up is not robust, sorry to say.
andy
No kidding. I find it amusing that a frightfully large percentage of middle-upper class adolescent boys are being medicated with, for all intents and purposes, low grade meth. Anyone here know any long term crank addicts? Notice how they are totally fucked up in the head even after they get cleaned up? Now we medicate our kids with this shit? Face it GenX, we get to pay for the inattention of today's parents. If you got any research on reversing the effects of long term stimulant abuse, I think you have a real money making opportunity in the future, until all the health care money gets spent on taking care of our rapidly aging population for free and their amphetamine addicted kids.
andy