When you need money, you work. Jobs are what you make of them, call center or no call center. Many corporations like to start people on the ground floor and bring them up in the organization. Its not the gogo 90's anymore, you have to WORK for a living now. There is a serious disconnect between expectations and reality in current graduates I am afraid.... It got really out of hand in the late 90's when college grads could demand 60k+ and get it. Those times are gone. Most college grads get 25-40k/yr in normal employment markets; maybe less right now since the supply is so high. Its basic economics folks, supply and demand. In a few years when supply gets tight (maybe) salaries will go up or you will change jobs to get more money. Until then, keep your head above water and start climbing the corporate ladder. Or network into a small job. Or get lucky and find a small business who doesn't realize that wages have fallen dramatically in the IT field. Whatever....
Technologies that Compaq pioneered? Like, what exactly? Stuff they bought from Digital? HP lost far more in the bargain; at least they made printers and digicams that made a profit. Compaq has just dragged down HPaq's bottom line with commodity hardware that Dell eats their lunch on. I don't think Compaq brought anything to the table besides commodity marketshare, and that was and is worth diddly squat.
That's because your company had to negotiate with every local municipality to put its hardware on light posts, offered 28kb-128kb speeds, and required proprietary hardware that was incompatible with anything else. Then, flush with cash from greedy Sand Hill VCs, you bought trendy office space in SOMA, rewired and renovated your building at your cost, bought a new Herman Miller chair, two 21" monitors, and two of the fastest desktops in the world for each employee. Your company threw huge trendy parties at the Thirsty Bear, Zeitgeist, and the DNA Lounge with DJs flown out for one night from London and Paris. Your Executives bought 6M$ McMansions in Hillsborough and new Ferraris and custom AMG Mercedes Roadsters. Then one day you realized that your balance sheet had bled continuously since you started, your expenses were still 10-100x your revenue, and the fucking party was OVER. And, on the plus side, you helped perpetuate a myth that allowed the largest transfer of wealth from the bottom 4 quintiles to the top quintile in American History. So please, tell us again how ANYTHING your old dotbomb company did means a goddamn thing.
Yeah, its called chromatic aberration. Same reason microscope lenses, large format polaroid film for microscopes, and green filters on the light source work. Because your eyes see green the best, so they made everything else work for it monochromatically. You can also buy achromat lenses from people like Zeiss that minimize chromatic aberration.
Long hair and high school. It is an amazing cover, I had a discman coveted away in the top of my pants and ran the headphone wire up my back. Put one little bud earphone in for classes where they might call on you, both for classes you really don't need to hear (English, Calculus), pull the hair down over the ears, smille, stare at the teacher. Only my nearest neighbors ever knew, pissed them off to no end (because I did better on the tests, and they knew no homework or listening in class was occuring), but they didn't squeal. I imagine it would work in your situation too. Just remember you will have to cut your hair to get a real job....(mine is waist length now and I've had a "real" job for 4 years...and now I do whatever the hell I want since I work from home).
hey man, if ctrl, alt, and backspace (or alt and F7) aren't on your keyboard, you have bigger problems. At least the box is still up. Moreover, when XFree locks up, blame XFree not Linus (or Linux for that matter). If you don't like it, go fix it yourself. Oh, I forgot, its easier to complain than fix. I'm sorry, what an asshole I am; just take your fucking medicine and pay the stupid computer user tax to MS instead of supporting the XFree developers. Enjoy your dope.
Rock on dude, I'm sure your viewpoint will be backed up. Or not. Not in my experience, but what the fuck do I know? I have never been unable to kill anything I wanted to on a Linux box, but obviously the syntax of kill (or, xkill) is too much for you. Glad XP works for you. Keep on with it. Love the pause when you put in a CD or floppy, gives you enough time to stuff your face full of doritos. Try not to wipe your hands on your shirt tho, it leaves tell tale orange stains that everyone you see for the next week will recognize. Oh, major hint, try not killing init on Unix boxes. When using ps, make sure you kill the PID that is not 1. Will stop those nasty unix lockups you speak of.
Or that they used the distro that was qualified...nevermind. You're right, its a big fscking con-spir-acy to promote SUSE at the expense of all other Linux Distros. My bad.
Exactly. How the fsck do you think they manage to have a whole corporation hidden in the razor thin margins that exist on commodity hardware? By cutting everything down to the wire. Dell et. al. are like the major automakers, saving a quarter on every piece is 3 million on the bottom line....
Or, perhaps because SUSE is qualified as a distro to run on p-series hardware and RedHat (until the recently release RHEL 3.0) is not? Jesus, do some fscking research.
You have tons of experience with both running lots of apps and crashing? Ok, I'll take the bait:
1. So XP crashes with lots of stuff running?
2. Linux _has_ lots of stuff to run?
Stability how? Individual apps failing, or IE crashing and taking down the OS resolver? And then, performance? So, with XP I get remote execution of GUI programs and the reverse, remote display of X on a different workstation?
Oh, yeah, thought not, try not trolling here. XP has nothing like the "bells and whistles" of Linux, and has no capacity to strip off the crap when its not required. They are not comparable. Run XP on all the platofrms that Linux runs on (hell, run it on an Athlon 64 for one....) and get back to me. Or the hardware SPECIFIED in the article, which was dual and quad Power4 boxes. XP and Linux are not comparable, stop trying. The mere fact that you are trying to do so highlights your bias.
I think if CEOs made 150k a year, most people wouldn't be complaining. Its the 7+ figures that makes us peons wonder if they couldn't be replaced with 5x as many Indian workers.... Oh, wait, that's only an option for peons. My bad.
Then don't use it and don't contribute to it. If Fedora can't get along without your enormous talents, it will stagnate and die. But I won't hold my breath. Until then, stop telling other people how to spend their time doing what they want or get paid to do. Better yet, start Ogerman OS so the other do nothing whiners in this comment section will have another OS to criticize without lifting a finger to help. And you will be able to demonstrate your superiority in buildind distros. After all, the code is out there. Go roll some.
It isn't. Go buy RHEL 3.0 WS if you want a polished clean OS. Or use Debian. Or Mandrake. Or any thing you want. Or make Fedora better, its open source after all. Just quit bitching about things you are not willing to fix. Damn. You people kill me. Like Winblows works out of the freaking box! Yeah, after you dig up the driver disks for every damn piece of hardware, the network card drivers so you can get on the net and update the OS for a few hours, download all the driver updates for all the hardware, reinstall all the software... Come on. I hate to break it to you, but if you know what you are doing upgrades to a Linux box are much easier than a windows box, and far easier than rebuilding a windows box because it forgot how to talk to its network card again.... But if you are not willing to learn, wait until it shows up at Best Buy with Linux installed and be a normal user. Just because your 8 years of experience with Windows quirks earned you the big fish in a small pond distinction of being the "computer guy" in the family doesn't mean you should be early adopting a new desktop OS. Linux is for people who like to get things done and don't mind figuring out how to do it. If you want someone to hold your hand, you can pay for that. If you don't want to pay and you want hand holding, well, how does it feel to want?
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Shoot, also forgot to note that IBM had a global network before they sold it off to AT&T, even has its own Class A network. So they probably already route all their calls internally over this network. They also have their own 7 digit internal phone numbers. I have a feeling that their internal phone and network system is more advanced than most countries, they (we) have been doing networking for a really long time.
Yes, yes, except the human evolution implied by Marx, which he thought was on the cusp of, has not yet occurred. It could be argued that humans are undergoing social evolution, and we are not yet at the point where Communism will work. This is not as crazy as it sounds; how many times has a technology been proposed/developed, only to find that people are not ready to utilize it? Oh, that's right, every time technology improves, it takes a generation for "people" (excluding early adopters) to understand and start to make use of it. Wait until 1984 is three generations old, and assume the best in people, that they come to the realization that structured centralization of power ALWAYS becomes "evil". Then the people of that time might be sufficently advanced to do their best for the benefit of their fellow man. And that would be a society for Marxism to flourish in. Marx was ahead of his time if you have actually read his works as an adult. Nobody knows how far ahead of his time however. He was a theorist much like a physicist, in that he looked at the current situation, took it to its logical extreme, and theorized the conditions of that time.
Funny, only processors I see fail on a regular basis are UltraSparcs, II and III. Also only field failures I see on a "regular" basis are in Sun boxes. Regular basis is once a month or so for ~20 servers. I think they are just badly designed at this point, and the new V880s are scary (almost a kW of heat generated from 8 procs 64 GB RAM). They are hot all the time. I think that Sun just gave up. Look at Solaris, it looks like core development stopped so they could write fancy features that don't work (cluster etc). I just don't know how they pull themselves out.
Yet another example of License Nightmare. You have actually figured out all this license nonsense, you are starting to sound like a PHB. Man, it would really suck to spend my time figuring out all that license junk instead of Advanced Routing and Traffic Control or other fun stuff. Have fun with those Licenses. Does MS pay your company for the downtime while you figure all that License stuff out, since it seems like overhead to keep their pockets stuffed. Oh, I guess not, that would cut into in their horrifically large profit margins. My bad.
exactly. its not like everyone here doesn't use the random generator anyway; its probably to their benefit that we don't dirty their database and just read the fucking article.
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When you need money, you work. Jobs are what you make of them, call center or no call center. Many corporations like to start people on the ground floor and bring them up in the organization. Its not the gogo 90's anymore, you have to WORK for a living now. There is a serious disconnect between expectations and reality in current graduates I am afraid.... It got really out of hand in the late 90's when college grads could demand 60k+ and get it. Those times are gone. Most college grads get 25-40k/yr in normal employment markets; maybe less right now since the supply is so high. Its basic economics folks, supply and demand. In a few years when supply gets tight (maybe) salaries will go up or you will change jobs to get more money. Until then, keep your head above water and start climbing the corporate ladder. Or network into a small job. Or get lucky and find a small business who doesn't realize that wages have fallen dramatically in the IT field. Whatever....
andy
Technologies that Compaq pioneered? Like, what exactly? Stuff they bought from Digital? HP lost far more in the bargain; at least they made printers and digicams that made a profit. Compaq has just dragged down HPaq's bottom line with commodity hardware that Dell eats their lunch on. I don't think Compaq brought anything to the table besides commodity marketshare, and that was and is worth diddly squat.
andy
That's because your company had to negotiate with every local municipality to put its hardware on light posts, offered 28kb-128kb speeds, and required proprietary hardware that was incompatible with anything else. Then, flush with cash from greedy Sand Hill VCs, you bought trendy office space in SOMA, rewired and renovated your building at your cost, bought a new Herman Miller chair, two 21" monitors, and two of the fastest desktops in the world for each employee. Your company threw huge trendy parties at the Thirsty Bear, Zeitgeist, and the DNA Lounge with DJs flown out for one night from London and Paris. Your Executives bought 6M$ McMansions in Hillsborough and new Ferraris and custom AMG Mercedes Roadsters. Then one day you realized that your balance sheet had bled continuously since you started, your expenses were still 10-100x your revenue, and the fucking party was OVER. And, on the plus side, you helped perpetuate a myth that allowed the largest transfer of wealth from the bottom 4 quintiles to the top quintile in American History. So please, tell us again how ANYTHING your old dotbomb company did means a goddamn thing.
Fucking grow up.
andy
Yeah, its called chromatic aberration. Same reason microscope lenses, large format polaroid film for microscopes, and green filters on the light source work. Because your eyes see green the best, so they made everything else work for it monochromatically. You can also buy achromat lenses from people like Zeiss that minimize chromatic aberration.
andy
Long hair and high school. It is an amazing cover, I had a discman coveted away in the top of my pants and ran the headphone wire up my back. Put one little bud earphone in for classes where they might call on you, both for classes you really don't need to hear (English, Calculus), pull the hair down over the ears, smille, stare at the teacher. Only my nearest neighbors ever knew, pissed them off to no end (because I did better on the tests, and they knew no homework or listening in class was occuring), but they didn't squeal. I imagine it would work in your situation too. Just remember you will have to cut your hair to get a real job....(mine is waist length now and I've had a "real" job for 4 years...and now I do whatever the hell I want since I work from home).
andy
hey man, if ctrl, alt, and backspace (or alt and F7) aren't on your keyboard, you have bigger problems. At least the box is still up. Moreover, when XFree locks up, blame XFree not Linus (or Linux for that matter). If you don't like it, go fix it yourself. Oh, I forgot, its easier to complain than fix. I'm sorry, what an asshole I am; just take your fucking medicine and pay the stupid computer user tax to MS instead of supporting the XFree developers. Enjoy your dope.
andy
Rock on dude, I'm sure your viewpoint will be backed up. Or not. Not in my experience, but what the fuck do I know? I have never been unable to kill anything I wanted to on a Linux box, but obviously the syntax of kill (or, xkill) is too much for you. Glad XP works for you. Keep on with it. Love the pause when you put in a CD or floppy, gives you enough time to stuff your face full of doritos. Try not to wipe your hands on your shirt tho, it leaves tell tale orange stains that everyone you see for the next week will recognize. Oh, major hint, try not killing init on Unix boxes. When using ps, make sure you kill the PID that is not 1. Will stop those nasty unix lockups you speak of.
andy
Or that they used the distro that was qualified...nevermind. You're right, its a big fscking con-spir-acy to promote SUSE at the expense of all other Linux Distros. My bad.
andy
Exactly. How the fsck do you think they manage to have a whole corporation hidden in the razor thin margins that exist on commodity hardware? By cutting everything down to the wire. Dell et. al. are like the major automakers, saving a quarter on every piece is 3 million on the bottom line....
andy
Or, perhaps because SUSE is qualified as a distro to run on p-series hardware and RedHat (until the recently release RHEL 3.0) is not? Jesus, do some fscking research.
andy
You have tons of experience with both running lots of apps and crashing? Ok, I'll take the bait:
1. So XP crashes with lots of stuff running?
2. Linux _has_ lots of stuff to run?
Stability how? Individual apps failing, or IE crashing and taking down the OS resolver? And then, performance? So, with XP I get remote execution of GUI programs and the reverse, remote display of X on a different workstation?
Oh, yeah, thought not, try not trolling here. XP has nothing like the "bells and whistles" of Linux, and has no capacity to strip off the crap when its not required. They are not comparable. Run XP on all the platofrms that Linux runs on (hell, run it on an Athlon 64 for one....) and get back to me. Or the hardware SPECIFIED in the article, which was dual and quad Power4 boxes. XP and Linux are not comparable, stop trying. The mere fact that you are trying to do so highlights your bias.
andy
Who carries a wallet?
andy
I think if CEOs made 150k a year, most people wouldn't be complaining. Its the 7+ figures that makes us peons wonder if they couldn't be replaced with 5x as many Indian workers.... Oh, wait, that's only an option for peons. My bad.
andy
I'd care about your opinions, except you didn't log in. Take the paper bag off your head and try again, numbnuts.
andy
Damn dude, chill out. If your job can be done by someone in India, perhaps you need a new job?
If you hate management so much, perhaps you need to work for yourself?
andy
Then don't use it and don't contribute to it. If Fedora can't get along without your enormous talents, it will stagnate and die. But I won't hold my breath. Until then, stop telling other people how to spend their time doing what they want or get paid to do. Better yet, start Ogerman OS so the other do nothing whiners in this comment section will have another OS to criticize without lifting a finger to help. And you will be able to demonstrate your superiority in buildind distros. After all, the code is out there. Go roll some.
andy
It isn't. Go buy RHEL 3.0 WS if you want a polished clean OS. Or use Debian. Or Mandrake. Or any thing you want. Or make Fedora better, its open source after all. Just quit bitching about things you are not willing to fix. Damn. You people kill me. Like Winblows works out of the freaking box! Yeah, after you dig up the driver disks for every damn piece of hardware, the network card drivers so you can get on the net and update the OS for a few hours, download all the driver updates for all the hardware, reinstall all the software... Come on. I hate to break it to you, but if you know what you are doing upgrades to a Linux box are much easier than a windows box, and far easier than rebuilding a windows box because it forgot how to talk to its network card again.... But if you are not willing to learn, wait until it shows up at Best Buy with Linux installed and be a normal user. Just because your 8 years of experience with Windows quirks earned you the big fish in a small pond distinction of being the "computer guy" in the family doesn't mean you should be early adopting a new desktop OS. Linux is for people who like to get things done and don't mind figuring out how to do it. If you want someone to hold your hand, you can pay for that. If you don't want to pay and you want hand holding, well, how does it feel to want?
andy
Shoot, also forgot to note that IBM had a global network before they sold it off to AT&T, even has its own Class A network. So they probably already route all their calls internally over this network. They also have their own 7 digit internal phone numbers. I have a feeling that their internal phone and network system is more advanced than most countries, they (we) have been doing networking for a really long time.
andy
Great synopsys. Got no mod points tho.
andy
I call this troll.
Nice. Scent of dreads in the afternoon sun. How's West Cliff these days, now that the dom bomb armies have left?
andy
Yes, yes, except the human evolution implied by Marx, which he thought was on the cusp of, has not yet occurred. It could be argued that humans are undergoing social evolution, and we are not yet at the point where Communism will work. This is not as crazy as it sounds; how many times has a technology been proposed/developed, only to find that people are not ready to utilize it? Oh, that's right, every time technology improves, it takes a generation for "people" (excluding early adopters) to understand and start to make use of it. Wait until 1984 is three generations old, and assume the best in people, that they come to the realization that structured centralization of power ALWAYS becomes "evil". Then the people of that time might be sufficently advanced to do their best for the benefit of their fellow man. And that would be a society for Marxism to flourish in. Marx was ahead of his time if you have actually read his works as an adult. Nobody knows how far ahead of his time however. He was a theorist much like a physicist, in that he looked at the current situation, took it to its logical extreme, and theorized the conditions of that time.
andy
Funny, only processors I see fail on a regular basis are UltraSparcs, II and III. Also only field failures I see on a "regular" basis are in Sun boxes. Regular basis is once a month or so for ~20 servers. I think they are just badly designed at this point, and the new V880s are scary (almost a kW of heat generated from 8 procs 64 GB RAM). They are hot all the time. I think that Sun just gave up. Look at Solaris, it looks like core development stopped so they could write fancy features that don't work (cluster etc). I just don't know how they pull themselves out.
andy
Yet another example of License Nightmare. You have actually figured out all this license nonsense, you are starting to sound like a PHB. Man, it would really suck to spend my time figuring out all that license junk instead of Advanced Routing and Traffic Control or other fun stuff. Have fun with those Licenses. Does MS pay your company for the downtime while you figure all that License stuff out, since it seems like overhead to keep their pockets stuffed. Oh, I guess not, that would cut into in their horrifically large profit margins. My bad.
andy
exactly. its not like everyone here doesn't use the random generator anyway; its probably to their benefit that we don't dirty their database and just read the fucking article.
andy