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The reason behind this is that be is focusing on Appliance; see the press release http://www.be.com/press/pr essreleases/00-01-18_free.html. This is only the fourth change in Be's long term strategy. The only real question is: how long will be continue to support it's desktop OS ? [They stoped the Hobbit bebox, then they stopped the support for the PowerPC bebox, and then they stopped all active dev on beos PPC. NOw they where intel only, will they stop it too ???] I really Like BeOS. And since some time now really dislike Be Inc the compagny....
Yes, I'm pissed off because: 1) I can't find any anouncement on the Loki web site 2) The cool thing I like About Linux is that it runs on non X86 hardware. And many announcement of That kind only care to do the port for the i386 linux crowd - once in a while PowerPC owners will have some chunks and pieces. But Alpha users never get any attention, not to mention other High powered platform running Linux
I whish the computing industry would realise that supporting x86 and only x86 is driving them nowhere because one day ( and Boy I whish this day to be sooner than expected) the x86 platform will die, because One day producing "compatible" processors that are more powerfull than the ones available nowdays will cost too much. Compagnies making games only have x86 expertise and they'll loose $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ the day x86 dies. They should support other hardware, because it costs a bit but with that bit you usually cover all the hardware.... sorry for being off-topic....
That can only be good news. Palm software being given with MacOS for users with Macs. Will palm still support It's own branded products for MacOS, or will Palm owners need to upgrade to Apple's branded ones....
should be up to the consumers to decided whether or not it is safe to eat, not their government! The price is usually what helps the consumer to choose. Hormoned beef is half the rpice of "normal" beef. Thats why the gvt are needed to protect the citizen
Think about it, tax free E-commerce is good for the seller, good for the buyer. But on the long term is it Good for the citizen ? I don't think so. The state will loose money and it will raise other taxes... People who can benefit from intern et shop will pay less taxe that those who can't. Usually those who don't have access to the Internet are the poorest not the whealthiest. So in the long term that kind of law makes the poor poorer and the rich richer - This is bad if you want any kind of social stability.
In Europe and in France Especailly, when there such things like marches and protests,be it for a school problem or an agricutural problem, it's really usual that violence pop's up. In the us , violence is rare (for protest I mean) The funny thing is that some of the protesters where european - because being heard in Europe isn't enough, If you want your ideas to travel around the world, it's easier if the TV that does the images recording is an American One - Because for so many things the US dictates the world: lets take the simple beef problem. In europe 20 years ago it was prouved that giving cattle some hormones was dangerous for man's health that kind of production was banned in europe , not in the US. Now days the US producer (which do make money but only because they use hormones) want to come back on our markets - we don't want to ! and the WTO will try to force us... that inaceptable !
Opera on beos is undergoing its 6th beta. its being beta since 4 month now dev is slow.... And we are still waiting for the PowerPC version so a linux for other platform, is IMO a Dream.
This is exactly waht Apple Computer used when Windows95 came out and that nothing else on the Apple side (neither Hardware Neither their OSes) was On the edge. Apple is back with superior Hardware IMO,and software seems to come along..... these days they don't communicate on the ease of use anymore.....
Mozilla is a good project for all other Web browser projects, because it's open source. Mozilla has been over the fire for more than a year now and the code is beginning to get debuged and optimized. The mozilla project is build in such a way that non technical people can help, because to help the mozilla project you just need: 1) A supported OS (which there's plenty of a bit less if you want binaries). 2) A web connection (to fecth Mozilla) 3) A e-mail to submit bug repports.
Mozilla's nicest feature is that yoiu can help the development of it for your favorite platform even though you're not using the platform from where you browse the Net [making bug reports on the win32 version @ work also helps the Linux and others OSes versions]. If you want to get more involved you can. First you help bugzilla by sorting bugs and norrowing their description. Everyone can do it. You can even push the involvment further and decide to pick a bug and correct it since the source is yours to work on.
Mozilla is really getting a lot better these days, speedier, less and less bugs.... Today a simple fix changed the numbers of memory link of one of the components from 163 to 29....
they've missed the best distribution : Debian. Debian PPC runs on Apple, PreP and CHRP hardware. The only pb is that you need to install one other distro (at least on Apple Hardware) and then install Debian. The debian-powerpc mailing list is very active.
These days where seeing a lot of graphical tools to develope for linux (like the one from metrowerks for example this one and the one already present in the community) All these tools are equivalent. They all use the same compiler: gcc/egcs. What really cares IMHO is the code generation process not the way the source code is written and the makefile handled. Good news is that chip makers are giving components to the gcc/egcs project (Intel gave many hours to the project and those changes will be incorporated to the 3.0 release of gcc, Motorola gave the egcs project all the needed thing to the support of altivec) What is needed to improve ggc/egcs and all linux applications is competition on the compiler tools. Has everyone could observe the competition between KDE and GNOME was an overall good thing for the two project and the community in general. Competition is available on the beowulf/normal intel platfrom (you can buy absoft fortrant that comes whith C and C++ too) Competition will soon appear on Alpha (thanks compag for this move, apps are getteing from 10%-30% speedups and up to 50% speed ups for fp intensive apps) Since linux is cross-platform the bad news about this competition is that it's not available on all platform and every platform will have its own optimoise compiler so will still use ggc to compile the kernel:( I'de like to see a real cross-platform compiler arrise from the linux world which is as good as commercial products.
Thi is exactly the kind of attitude I can't understand in the Capitalistc world were leaving in. Sure on the short terms it's cheaper to pay the hackers to send them elsewhere (like your comperitor). But on the long term this really is bad: * Crackers will see in such deal a good way to make money, they'll come back (this will increase the cost of security) * Since they just pay the cracker and don't do anything about security, what will happen when the cracker dosn't try to get paid by the bank but takes what he wants
On the long trem the money should be spend on increaing security.....
The French have sponsorised the Genethon project for a decade now. They are being funded every year by a 24 hour long tv show where many french citizen participate and money is raised. All the work they have done (like identifying all human genes) is given to the public domain so it can't be patented. The above link is in English
I think that having low priced PC *is* a good thing. but there also should be high priced ones. why ? Because development of newer technologies isn't FREE - someone needs to pay this. IMHO low priced machines shouldn't have the newer techs but the olds ones. Thus those who are whishing to have the latest techies should pay the dev of the newer ones to come.
These images are beautifull. I just hope NASA will solve it's archive problems (which where: the cycle of copying all the tapes to newer tapes is shorter than the expected life of the magnetic tapes used by nasa). NASA should sell some CD's whith those images - that you'll be a great way of having a widely distributed backup - and could also fund some research that the US gvt isn't willing to fund.
Gentlemen, start your port scanners! This is not needed its been done alredy http://crack.linuxppc.org/nmap.results.d on't waste your time and bandwith.... Try something else.
The latest Mir mission was for its inhabitants to beat the record of days in space This last mission was funded mostly by the European Space Agnecy. Another big part of the fund for this last mission came from France Space Center. Btw the name of this mission was perseus (many nice photos even if the site is in french)
Reminds me a bit of the strategy used by guess Who............. Microsoft. Each time Mr Karmack or someone from Id has a statement on the yet to be released best game of the century , everone listen say " Huhhhhhhhhhhhhh thats soooooooooooooo coooooooooool". A bit like W2k , just listen people say wheay W2k's the best. This bothers me because people don't look around they just follow the buzz.... Now all this beta testing is needed thats sure But one release IMHO should have been enough not 3 or more just because the game isn't ready wet and people migth take a look elsewhere and stop thinking ID Microsoft does just the same annonce great things make it beta test for free by many people and hops goes to sell.........
If they just could do the same and also bring a commercial compiler to the linuxppc communities and other supported processor by Mot/Metro (ie Coldfire 68000) and also the ARM. Gcc is prety cool but I know commercial compiler are better in code generation than gcc is....
Altivec is already supported for egcs - motorola did it and gave it away some months agos check out the debian-powerpc and linuxppc-dev mailing lists archives.....
they wont. If they *really* wanted they could have supported the newer macs (this is not new to all those of you who have followed be's history..) Only thing now is they won't be able to say " we don't have the specs" they'll have to clearly say : We are not interested in the PPC Anymore. But none off these boards are out yet.
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This was rumored here alreday a month ago : http://www.theregister.co.uk/991201 -000008.html
This is only the fourth change in Be's long term strategy. The only real question is: how long will be continue to support it's desktop OS ? [They stoped the Hobbit bebox, then they stopped the support for the PowerPC bebox, and then they stopped all active dev on beos PPC. NOw they where intel only, will they stop it too ???]
I really Like BeOS. And since some time now really dislike Be Inc the compagny
I was ...
And I knew loki did support PPC, not Alpha thought ...
1) I can't find any anouncement on the Loki web site
2) The cool thing I like About Linux is that it runs on non X86 hardware. And many announcement of That kind only care to do the port for the i386 linux crowd - once in a while PowerPC owners will have some chunks and pieces. But Alpha users never get any attention, not to mention other High powered platform running Linux
I whish the computing industry would realise that supporting x86 and only x86 is driving them nowhere because one day ( and Boy I whish this day to be sooner than expected) the x86 platform will die, because One day producing "compatible" processors that are more powerfull than the ones available nowdays will cost too much. Compagnies making games only have x86 expertise and they'll loose $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ the day x86 dies. They should support other hardware, because it costs a bit but with that bit you usually cover all the hardware
sorry for being off-topic
That can only be good news. Palm software being given with MacOS for users with Macs. Will palm still support It's own branded products for MacOS, or will Palm owners need to upgrade to Apple's branded ones ....
The price is usually what helps the consumer to choose. Hormoned beef is half the rpice of "normal" beef. Thats why the gvt are needed to protect the citizen
Think about it, ... People who can benefit from intern et shop will pay less taxe that those who can't. Usually those who don't have access to the Internet are the poorest not the whealthiest. So in the long term that kind of law makes the poor poorer and the rich richer - This is bad if you want any kind of social stability.
tax free E-commerce is good for the seller, good for the buyer. But on the long term is it Good for the citizen ?
I don't think so. The state will loose money and it will raise other taxes
In the us , violence is rare (for protest I mean)
The funny thing is that some of the protesters where european - because being heard in Europe isn't enough, If you want your ideas to travel around the world, it's easier if the TV that does the images recording is an American One - Because for so many things the US dictates the world:
lets take the simple beef problem. In europe 20 years ago it was prouved that giving cattle some hormones was dangerous for man's health
that kind of production was banned in europe , not in the US.
Now days the US producer (which do make money but only because they use hormones) want to come back on our markets - we don't want to ! and the WTO will try to force us
that inaceptable !
its being beta since 4 month now
dev is slow
And we are still waiting for the PowerPC version so a linux for other platform, is IMO a Dream.
Apple is back with superior Hardware IMO,and software seems to come along
these days they don't communicate on the ease of use anymore
I think we should push mozilla.
.... ....
Mozilla is a good project for all other Web browser projects, because it's open source. Mozilla has been over the fire for more than a year now and the code is beginning to get debuged and optimized. The mozilla project is build in such a way that non technical people can help, because to help the mozilla project you just need:
1) A supported OS (which there's plenty of a bit less if you want binaries).
2) A web connection (to fecth Mozilla)
3) A e-mail to submit bug repports.
Mozilla's nicest feature is that yoiu can help the development of it for your favorite platform even though you're not using the platform from where you browse the Net [making bug reports on the win32 version @ work also helps the Linux and others OSes versions].
If you want to get more involved you can.
First you help bugzilla by sorting bugs and norrowing their description. Everyone can do it.
You can even push the involvment further and decide to pick a bug and correct it since the source is yours to work on.
Mozilla is really getting a lot better these days, speedier, less and less bugs
Today a simple fix changed the numbers of memory link of one of the components from 163 to 29
they've missed the best distribution : Debian. Debian PPC runs on Apple, PreP and CHRP hardware. The only pb is that you need to install one other distro (at least on Apple Hardware) and then install Debian.
The debian-powerpc mailing list is very active.
These days where seeing a lot of graphical tools to develope for linux (like the one from metrowerks for example this one and the one already present in the community) :(
All these tools are equivalent.
They all use the same compiler: gcc/egcs. What really cares IMHO is the code generation process not the way the source code is written and the makefile handled.
Good news is that chip makers are giving components to the gcc/egcs project (Intel gave many hours to the project and those changes will be incorporated to the 3.0 release of gcc, Motorola gave the egcs project all the needed thing to the support of altivec)
What is needed to improve ggc/egcs and all linux applications is competition on the compiler tools. Has everyone could observe the competition between KDE and GNOME was an overall good thing for the two project and the community in general.
Competition is available on the beowulf/normal intel platfrom (you can buy absoft fortrant that comes whith C and C++ too)
Competition will soon appear on Alpha (thanks compag for this move, apps are getteing from 10%-30% speedups and up to 50% speed ups for fp intensive apps)
Since linux is cross-platform the bad news about this competition is that it's not available on all platform and every platform will have its own optimoise compiler so will still use ggc to compile the kernel
I'de like to see a real cross-platform compiler arrise from the linux world which is as good as commercial products.
Thi is exactly the kind of attitude I can't understand in the Capitalistc world were leaving in.
.....
Sure on the short terms it's cheaper to pay the hackers to send them elsewhere (like your comperitor). But on the long term this really is bad:
* Crackers will see in such deal a good way to make money, they'll come back (this will increase the cost of security)
* Since they just pay the cracker and don't do anything about security, what will happen when the cracker dosn't try to get paid by the bank but takes what he wants
On the long trem the money should be spend on increaing security
The French have sponsorised the Genethon project for a decade now.
They are being funded every year by a 24 hour long tv show where many french citizen participate and money is raised.
All the work they have done (like identifying all human genes) is given to the public domain so it can't be patented.
The above link is in English
I think that having low priced PC *is* a good thing. but there also should be high priced ones.
why ?
Because development of newer technologies isn't FREE - someone needs to pay this. IMHO low priced machines shouldn't have the newer techs but the olds ones. Thus those who are whishing to have the latest techies should pay the dev of the newer ones to come.
I just hope NASA will solve it's archive problems (which where: the cycle of copying all the tapes to newer tapes is shorter than the expected life of the magnetic tapes used by nasa).
NASA should sell some CD's whith those images - that you'll be a great way of having a widely distributed backup - and could also fund some research that the US gvt isn't willing to fund.
This is not needed its been done alredy http://crack.linuxppc.org/nmap.results.d on't waste your time and bandwith
I've found this link which tells you every minute where MIR is in Space : http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/temp /StationLoc.html
The latest Mir mission was for its inhabitants to beat the record of days in space
This last mission was funded mostly by the European Space Agnecy.
Another big part of the fund for this last mission came from France Space Center. Btw the name of this mission was perseus (many nice photos even if the site is in french)
Reminds me a bit of the strategy used by guess Who ............. .... .........
Microsoft.
Each time Mr Karmack or someone from Id has a statement on the yet to be released best game of the century , everone listen say " Huhhhhhhhhhhhhh thats soooooooooooooo coooooooooool". A bit like W2k , just listen people say wheay W2k's the best.
This bothers me because people don't look around they just follow the buzz
Now all this beta testing is needed thats sure But one release IMHO should have been enough not 3 or more just because the game isn't ready wet and people migth take a look elsewhere and stop thinking ID
Microsoft does just the same annonce great things make it beta test for free by many people and hops goes to sell
You should wait for the native gimp port
If they just could do the same and also bring a commercial compiler to the linuxppc communities and other supported processor by Mot/Metro (ie Coldfire 68000) and also the ARM. ....
Gcc is prety cool but I know commercial compiler are better in code generation than gcc is
Altivec is already supported for egcs - motorola did it and gave it away some months agos check out the debian-powerpc and linuxppc-dev mailing lists archives .....
they wont. ..) .
If they *really* wanted they could have supported the newer macs (this is not new to all those of you who have followed be's history
Only thing now is they won't be able to say " we don't have the specs"
they'll have to clearly say : We are not interested in the PPC Anymore
But none off these boards are out yet.