The biggest argument in favour of Free Software is IMO that it gives you the user the ability and the right to fix bugs. With this ruling Australians will have the ability to do so without the source code, so at least in Australia the argument saying You need the source code to debu is no more valid. It will be replaced by : it you'lld be easier if it was open sourced because we you'lld have the source code.
Finally, I can have a really high end x86 system that has no wintel parts. The Prophecy is complete.
To me its not the end - its just another bringe on the same road because the athlon is still tied up to the original 80386 design wich was tied up to the 80086 design which was derived from the 4004 (Intels firts production processor). I think the x86 line will be dead and the wintel marriage too when another architecture like the ARM or the PowerPC will make standard machines bought by normal end users.....
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Ok I wanted to see them They aren't worth the dowload all you see is graphics comparing Athlon and PIII. Basiccly on each graphics the Athlon Beats the Intels processors.
The quake Movie is dispointing they should have take shots of the same demo scene running on both Hardware...
First let me state that It's not Caldera that made the MCG jump onto the linux BangWagon. It's been some time now that they speak and send patches to the linuxppc-dev list. They have openend a specific linux site one week ago or so (see the above link).
Too bad they are pushing the embedded market I whish some linux hardware vendors would get in touch with the Motorola MCG to get Quantities of MB (603e, 604e, dual 604e's and 750 based ones) so Linuxppc users yould have the oportunitie to by non Apple branded hardware.
Bad thing is the price of a single board that why we need a Big partner( like VA) to have them in quantities. There a discussion now on the debian PPC list on how to get PPC boards ( beginning of the thread on PPC boards )- It was said that IBM would licence the desing of its longtrail MB and that they could be easely manufactured [ if someone is listening there a Market for PPC based motherboard - With Linux as the OS - If enough boards are sold then I'm sure you could interest the QNX/Amiga people and the BeOS people too - You just need to launch the market using Linux,...]
1) The size of the source: If you want to contribute you have to get into the source - this means read/read/read some some source to just try to get how the whole thing is working this takes times. Many Netscape dev are doeing this full time, they have the time to learn and can ask directly to the coder what he inteded to do when he wrote the code. While your learning everything is changing fast - Ok not so fast but fast enough so that it takes time to catch up. Ok but you might argue that the linux kernel is also Big and that it changes also constantly - right but the basic behind a kernel are thautght in any decent Computer school - it helps a lot, plenty of books are available on the subjects - so it you'll learn faster what the code does and how it does it
2) Time : this factor is only applicable to non US, nor Canada resident. In many Other Countries you have to pay for local communications so dialing your ISP and staying online cost some Phone-money , dowloading 25 or so MB really isn'yt cheap and really is painfull with a 33.6 even with a 56 k modem...
My favorite link is the following: ftp://warez.eu.org It's my favorite I hope I won't get sued by Software compagnies for posting this URL - If you don't understand the joke, do a nslookup on the given URL......
The Web is made of links. Then Can you consider web portals robots illigal ? How are these compagny expect to get some hist if they aren't linked from the outside ? I say lets start an petition saying we will "unlink" universals studios from every page that links it and lets see how they will react ? how much traffic will they loose ? that's the way to go , a bit mlike the blue ribbon speech campaign - such action need some support from nntities like the electronic frontier foundation - Anyway these kind of ruling will only affect the US - then all web maker content maker will have to leave the country and this is bad for most ISPs they should help in such case because if the ruling really is issued then noOne in the US will be able to link any site without the fear of being sued - isn't that aginst USA first Amemdment - When asked for a direction do you hust have to say its on your left (because being too precise would get you in trouble...) damn money maker.... Thats exacly why I don't feel Capitalism being the way - Capitalism needs more goverment coontrol than what exists (even in countries where that control seems strong).
I whish BeOS ran on That Baby..... But the baby isn't out Yet Reminds Me Pios who said they would release the Pios One in 6 month and 6 month later said in 6 month and so on until they just drop the idea of making a PPC machine. But if this baby ever comes out, linux Will rock on it (especially since Motorola gave the egcs project evrything for altivec support).
First i'm not suprise it the CAworld show this week. Unicenter is a package of software to monitor machines from a single "console". They have basicaly two component: 1) AT technologie with which you'll try to monitor your machines - It can look on your file systems processes Memory usage, log files etc... it works on a broad variety of platforms : but the most suported ones are : WinNT, Aix, HpUx and Solaris, but you'll find versions of some parts of the products for synix, SCO etc...) 2)EM : with which you can act on message that are send from the ganet to the console. manage some tapes and use the workload (a scheduler). tahta part is very tricky and goes low level on the system on which it runs. it is not has widely suported has the AT stuff. CA products are young and unmature - so installing and configuring them IS tricky (look at the number of patches available here. Unicenter comes with many options some which are great asome which sucks....
The problem is tahta some part of the linux kernel are x86 oriented (like the MMU design see : http://www.cs.nmt.edu/~cort/papers/ linuxppc-mm/) and so are the drivers - that is because the hardware on those card contains x86 code:( so if you don't have a x86 machine the card won't initialise itself....
I'm tired of such so called revues comparing Linux with Other OSes. Usually what is being compared is a linux distribution (usually a RedHat or RedHat derivative (ie uses rpm to manage packages)). The comparaison is usually done on the install then on the firts impresion, they rarelly go to real end-user testing the prodocts. IMHO one can't compare a linux distro with Just a core OS - I'de prefer something like BackOffice to be testted against. On the isuees of W2K the product isn't out yet - Microsoft is making some noises around it so that people with the power to choose still take windows over whats available because W2K will be here real soon now. Marketing people are the one pushing windows - not techies. My point here is that comparing things not made to do the same kind of things ius useless, even if these are sold has being designed for the same purposes. NT4.0 has many foundation of unix in its core kernel (like the infamous/etc folder). So saying linux is based on 20 years old ideas is true - but windows also is (win 1.0 dates from 1986). What really bugs me is the underlaying hardware on which all this software is based on: the x86 architecture - this is where the nproblem lies.
Why don't you look for CabltCube (neato bleue Cubes that run linux on a R4000n processor -,) They come with serial control (then you'll just need to tweak the Kernel). They do just what you want. more info can be found @ http://www.cobaltnet.com Can also take a look @ endebed systems from motorola - but linux dev on those cutties is SLOW http://www.mcg.mot.com
The Intel comptaibility list has also been updated : http://www-classi c.be.com/support/guides/beosreadylist_intel.html Will allow many more users to use it. Bad thing is nothing new on the PowerPC pages:-( Btw The announce on Bedepot is preorder. The OS isn't ready Yet . The developers haven't been warned of anything Yet (maybe on the Beta list on which I ain't). So to say it is not released ! Ludo
You can learn a lot from phrack magazine. In the 20 firts number there's a special collumn just on BBS/Phreakers being busted. They also usualy explain why and how they got busted by FBI and Secret service. I love to log on to bbses. they migth become a alternative for power user the day the net will only have newbies and unresponsible persons
Since IE on Windows is so deeply into the OS itself (see last years case against DOJ). Will This mean Microsft will spend $ in engeneering to push the linux Kernel ? (Makes me wonder, will it be faster on linuw than on NT ?, How will it compete with mozilla and its "brothers" ?). Anyway having the right to choose between many options always leads to freedom - that a good thing for Computing... NeXT they'll have to port XL and Word.... This might help push free Oses into coprorates space (since *BSD can run linux apps).
All the fuss around MP3, is IMHO some weirdo work around from music publishing compagnies. They fear a big money loss - and in some way the system they have established. Remember when The firts CDs came out - and we where told that the new prices fro music where due to the new medium and the better quality that came with it. In fact The music compagnie pushed the CD's very hard because they made more mony wiht a cd than with a Vinyl disc ( we now know the cost of duplicating CD's : it's very cheap compared to Vinyl duplication). Now that everybody can make a big price drop on music - they don't want to loose 10 years of marketing efforts to make music a pricy thing.
Of the Three BeOS news related site ( beforever, beoscentral and benews) The one I prefer is the One run By Peter (first aforementionned one) because its the only with no./ touch (its just plain simple, hand updated and when you send news and other announce to peter he usually responds personnaly.). The problem being with his site not being updated has frequently has the other ones. One last thing peter the guy being interviewed in the article is also a strong PowerPc supporter (which I also tend to be), eventhought Be Hasn't annonced officialy the death of PPC (I think Be should announce officially the death of PPC for the sake of the be community and because most PPC users are developers (which should mean partners), they should be officially informed os such decision.)
IMHO, nothing beats experience. The best book I have ever found on using/learning an OS/Techy stuff is by Trying. What's needed is a machine on which (at first your all alone) you can try things. The more you try the more you learn. If it take 2 hours to solve a pb then You'll remember the thing in a much better way than by just reading a book and finding a solution in that book . Once you think your hands are made in a "single" user mode test and experiment in a multiuser mode ! but not on a production machine.... (too dangerous)......
Is./ making any money ? NO end of the Question... Aol volunters are helping AOL to deliver a better service than without them - that is the point IMHO where the problem lies. That is if you consider that point being a problem: I personnaly don't (I don't like AOL because I feel they are the one responsible for what happened to usenet a while back with all those me too jsut making noises in the groups). Too bad that kind of problem from providers can't be attacked just because there is no law. ISP should be forced by law to give a copy of the netiquette ( I know there no absolute netiquette review nor any file that explains every use and usage on the Net : that would be a nice feature)
Does this mean the'll give away all their 'old' machines where you can read Silicon Graphics ? I want one then;-)
Makes me wonder why is everybody changing names (ie Cygnus, SGI etc....) ? It wont' help sell more. What will help SGI to sell more is a big price cut.... (and I mean a real big one). They also shouldn't go the Intel way and stick to their MIPS processors - everyone even Intel is going towards the Risc Way and SGI goes the other way around ? they should sell some techno to Intel and join the UA64 guys too..
That's anyway good news.... Because D/UX has got a price drop and you can now get some good software for almsot has much has the hardware. If they make real money with Alpha servers they should give the oportunity to the dev of linux by: 1) Helping the compiler guys @ egcs (But I don't mean throwing away the $200 Millions Digital spent in developing it's cc) 2) distribute some binarie version of glibc and other widely used libs compiled with their compiler so that free software would still get some speed boost.....). Selling such lib is not incompatible with GPL , is it ? 3) There should be a price drop for "older" systems like mono 2164 basded systems so many more pple could aford to get one and dev stuff on them or help making 64 bit unclean code clean. Thats all for today....
That's anyway good news.... Because D/UX has got a price drop and you can now get some good software for almsot has much has the hardware. If they make real money with Alpha servers they should give the oportunity to the dev of linux by: 1) Helping the compiler guys @ egcs (But I don't mean throwing away the $200 Millions Digital spent in developing it's cc) 2) distribute some binarie version of glibc and other widely used libs compiled with their compiler so that free software would still get some speed boost.....). Selling such lib is not incompatible with GPL , is it ? 3) There should be a price drop for "older" systems like mono 2164 basded systems so many more pple could aford to get one and dev stuff on them or help making 64 bit unclean code clean. Thats all for today....
That's goodn News for the BeOS, we will finelly bae able to run on the Macs . If apple wants device drivers and other low level developers to work with hem in the Open source way of doing thing then they will have to publish some kind of hardware specification. Then Be won't be able to say : apple doesn't want to give us specs, it is just that we (ir Be Inc.) don't want to support the PowerPc version of BeOS..... Thank's apple, I really hope MacOS X comes out soon so that the low level hardware docs of apples blue and Beige G3's has well has those of the upcoming and very exiting G4 boxes (SMP will make it's come back with that chip). Apple will increase its revenue. If apple wants to still have the lead I think they should publish Today the specs of their beige G3's. And when the G4 are released they could released the specs of the El Capitan.
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if only mozilla was a bit more polished, a bit speadier a lot more smaller, and came with the OS :)
The biggest argument in favour of Free Software is IMO that it gives you the user the ability and the right to fix bugs. With this ruling Australians will have the ability to do so without the source code, so at least in Australia the argument saying You need the source code to debu is no more valid. It will be replaced by : it you'lld be easier if it was open sourced because we you'lld have the source code.
To me its not the end - its just another bringe on the same road because the athlon is still tied up to the original 80386 design wich was tied up to the 80086 design which was derived from the 4004 (Intels firts production processor). .....
I think the x86 line will be dead and the wintel marriage too when another architecture like the ARM or the PowerPC will make standard machines bought by normal end users
They aren't worth the dowload all you see is graphics comparing Athlon and PIII. Basiccly on each graphics the Athlon Beats the Intels processors.
The quake Movie is dispointing they should have take shots of the same demo scene running on both Hardware ...
First let me state that It's not Caldera that made the MCG jump onto the linux BangWagon. It's been some time now that they speak and send patches to the linuxppc-dev list. They have openend a specific linux site one week ago or so (see the above link).
Too bad they are pushing the embedded market
I whish some linux hardware vendors would get in touch with the Motorola MCG to get Quantities of MB (603e, 604e, dual 604e's and 750 based ones) so Linuxppc users yould have the oportunitie to by non Apple branded hardware.
Bad thing is the price of a single board that why we need a Big partner( like VA) to have them in quantities. ...]
There a discussion now on the debian PPC list on how to get PPC boards ( beginning of the thread on PPC boards )- It was said that IBM would licence the desing of its longtrail MB and that they could be easely manufactured [ if someone is listening there a Market for PPC based motherboard - With Linux as the OS - If enough boards are sold then I'm sure you could interest the QNX/Amiga people and the BeOS people too - You just need to launch the market using Linux,
1) The size of the source: If you want to contribute you have to get into the source - this means read/read/read some some source to just try to get how the whole thing is working this takes times. Many Netscape dev are doeing this full time, they have the time to learn and can ask directly to the coder what he inteded to do when he wrote the code. While your learning everything is changing fast - Ok not so fast but fast enough so that it takes time to catch up. Ok but you might argue that the linux kernel is also Big and that it changes also constantly - right but the basic behind a kernel are thautght in any decent Computer school - it helps a lot, plenty of books are available on the subjects - so it you'll learn faster what the code does and how it does it
2) Time : this factor is only applicable to non US, nor Canada resident. In many Other Countries you have to pay for local communications so dialing your ISP and staying online cost some Phone-money , dowloading 25 or so MB really isn'yt cheap and really is painfull with a 33.6 even with a 56 k modem ...
My favorite link is the following: ......
ftp://warez.eu.org
It's my favorite I hope I won't get sued by Software compagnies for posting this URL -
If you don't understand the joke, do a nslookup on the given URL
The Web is made of links. Then Can you consider web portals robots illigal ? How are these compagny expect to get some hist if they aren't linked from the outside ? I say lets start an petition saying we will "unlink" universals studios from every page that links it and lets see how they will react ? how much traffic will they loose ? that's the way to go , a bit mlike the blue ribbon speech campaign - such action need some support from nntities like the electronic frontier foundation - Anyway these kind of ruling will only affect the US - then all web maker content maker will have to leave the country and this is bad for most ISPs they should help in such case because if the ruling really is issued then noOne in the US will be able to link any site without the fear of being sued - isn't that aginst USA first Amemdment - When asked for a direction do you hust have to say its on your left (because being too precise would get you in trouble ...) damn money maker .... Thats exacly why I don't feel Capitalism being the way - Capitalism needs more goverment coontrol than what exists (even in countries where that control seems strong).
I whish BeOS ran on That Baby .....
But the baby isn't out Yet
Reminds Me Pios who said they would release the Pios One in 6 month and 6 month later said in 6 month and so on until they just drop the idea of making a PPC machine.
But if this baby ever comes out, linux Will rock on it (especially since Motorola gave the egcs project evrything for altivec support).
First i'm not suprise it the CAworld show this week. : ... it works on a broad variety of platforms : but the most suported ones are : WinNT, Aix, HpUx and Solaris, but you'll find versions of some parts of the products for synix, SCO etc ...) ....
Unicenter is a package of software to monitor machines from a single "console". They have basicaly two component
1) AT technologie with which you'll try to monitor your machines - It can look on your file systems processes Memory usage, log files etc
2)EM : with which you can act on message that are send from the ganet to the console. manage some tapes and use the workload (a scheduler). tahta part is very tricky and goes low level on the system on which it runs. it is not has widely suported has the AT stuff.
CA products are young and unmature - so installing and configuring them IS tricky (look at the number of patches available here. Unicenter comes with many options some which are great asome which sucks
The problem is tahta some part of the linux kernel are x86 oriented (like the MMU design see : http://www.cs.nmt.edu/~cort/papers/ linuxppc-mm/) :( so if you don't have a x86 machine the card won't initialise itself ....
and so are the drivers - that is because the hardware on those card contains x86 code
I'm tired of such so called revues comparing Linux with Other OSes. /etc folder). So saying linux is based on 20 years old ideas is true - but windows also is (win 1.0 dates from 1986). What really bugs me is the underlaying hardware on which all this software is based on:
Usually what is being compared is a linux distribution (usually a RedHat or RedHat derivative (ie uses rpm to manage packages)). The comparaison is usually done on the install then on the firts impresion, they rarelly go to real end-user testing the prodocts. IMHO one can't compare a linux distro with Just a core OS - I'de prefer something like BackOffice to be testted against.
On the isuees of W2K the product isn't out yet - Microsoft is making some noises around it so that people with the power to choose still take windows over whats available because W2K will be here real soon now. Marketing people are the one pushing windows - not techies. My point here is that comparing things not made to do the same kind of things ius useless, even if these are sold has being designed for the same purposes.
NT4.0 has many foundation of unix in its core kernel (like the infamous
the x86 architecture - this is where the nproblem lies.
Why don't you look for CabltCube (neato bleue Cubes that run linux on a R4000n processor -,) They come with serial control (then you'll just need to tweak the Kernel). They do just what you want. more info can be found @ http://www.cobaltnet.com
Can also take a look @ endebed systems from motorola - but linux dev on those cutties is SLOW http://www.mcg.mot.com
The Intel comptaibility list has also been updated : http://www-classi c.be.com/support/guides/beosreadylist_intel.html :-(
Will allow many more users to use it. Bad thing is nothing new on the PowerPC pages
Btw The announce on Bedepot is preorder. The OS isn't ready Yet . The developers haven't been warned of anything Yet (maybe on the Beta list on which I ain't). So to say it is not released ! Ludo
You can learn a lot from phrack magazine. In the 20 firts number there's a special collumn just on BBS/Phreakers being busted. They also usualy explain why and how they got busted by FBI and Secret service.
I love to log on to bbses. they migth become a alternative for power user the day the net will only have newbies and unresponsible persons
Since IE on Windows is so deeply into the OS itself (see last years case against DOJ). Will This mean Microsft will spend $ in engeneering to push the linux Kernel ? (Makes me wonder, will it be faster on linuw than on NT ?, How will it compete with mozilla and its "brothers" ?). ... NeXT they'll have to port XL and Word .... This might help push free Oses into coprorates space (since *BSD can run linux apps).
Anyway having the right to choose between many options always leads to freedom - that a good thing for Computing
All the fuss around MP3, is IMHO some weirdo work around from music publishing compagnies. They fear a big money loss - and in some way the system they have established. Remember when The firts CDs came out - and we where told that the new prices fro music where due to the new medium and the better quality that came with it. In fact The music compagnie pushed the CD's very hard because they made more mony wiht a cd than with a Vinyl disc ( we now know the cost of duplicating CD's : it's very cheap compared to Vinyl duplication). Now that everybody can make a big price drop on music - they don't want to loose 10 years of marketing efforts to make music a pricy thing.
Of the Three BeOS news related site ( beforever, beoscentral and benews) The one I prefer is the One run By Peter (first aforementionned one) because its the only with no ./ touch (its just plain simple, hand updated and when you send news and other announce to peter he usually responds personnaly.). The problem being with his site not being updated has frequently has the other ones. One last thing peter the guy being interviewed in the article is also a strong PowerPc supporter (which I also tend to be), eventhought Be Hasn't annonced officialy the death of PPC (I think Be should announce officially the death of PPC for the sake of the be community and because most PPC users are developers (which should mean partners), they should be officially informed os such decision.)
IMHO, nothing beats experience. The best book I have ever found on using/learning an OS/Techy stuff is by Trying. .... (too dangerous). .....
What's needed is a machine on which (at first your all alone) you can try things. The more you try the more you learn. If it take 2 hours to solve a pb then You'll remember the thing in a much better way than by just reading a book and finding a solution in that book . Once you think your hands are made in a "single" user mode test and experiment in a multiuser mode ! but not on a production machine
Is ./ making any money ? ...
NO end of the Question
Aol volunters are helping AOL to deliver a better service than without them - that is the point IMHO where the problem lies.
That is if you consider that point being a problem: I personnaly don't (I don't like AOL because I feel they are the one responsible for what happened to usenet a while back with all those me too jsut making noises in the groups). Too bad that kind of problem from providers can't be attacked just because there is no law.
ISP should be forced by law to give a copy of the netiquette ( I know there no absolute netiquette review nor any file that explains every use and usage on the Net : that would be a nice feature)
Does this mean the'll give away all their 'old' machines where you can read Silicon Graphics ? I want one then ;-)
....) ? It wont' help sell more. What will help SGI to sell more is a big price cut .... (and I mean a real big one). They also shouldn't go the Intel way and stick to their MIPS processors - everyone even Intel is going towards the Risc Way and SGI goes the other way around ? they should sell some techno to Intel and join the UA64 guys too ..
Makes me wonder why is everybody changing names (ie Cygnus, SGI etc
That's anyway good news .... : .....). Selling such lib is not incompatible with GPL , is it ? ....
Because D/UX has got a price drop and you can now get some good software for almsot has much has the hardware. If they make real money with Alpha servers they should give the oportunity to the dev of linux by
1) Helping the compiler guys @ egcs (But I don't mean throwing away the $200 Millions Digital spent in developing it's cc) 2) distribute some binarie version of glibc and other widely used libs compiled with their compiler so that free software would still get some speed boost
3) There should be a price drop for "older" systems like mono 2164 basded systems so many more pple could aford to get one and dev stuff on them or help making 64 bit unclean code clean. Thats all for today
That's anyway good news .... : .....). Selling such lib is not incompatible with GPL , is it ? 3) There should be a price drop for "older" systems like mono 2164 basded systems so many more pple could aford to get one and dev stuff on them or help making 64 bit unclean code clean. Thats all for today ....
Because D/UX has got a price drop and you can now get some good software for almsot has much has the hardware. If they make real money with Alpha servers they should give the oportunity to the dev of linux by
1) Helping the compiler guys @ egcs (But I don't mean throwing away the $200 Millions Digital spent in developing it's cc) 2) distribute some binarie version of glibc and other widely used libs compiled with their compiler so that free software would still get some speed boost
That's goodn News for the BeOS, we will finelly bae able to run on the Macs . If apple wants device drivers and other low level developers to work with hem in the Open source way of doing thing then they will have to publish some kind of hardware specification. Then Be won't be able to say : apple doesn't want to give us specs, it is just that we (ir Be Inc.) don't want to support the PowerPc version of BeOS .....
Thank's apple, I really hope MacOS X comes out soon so that the low level hardware docs of apples blue and Beige G3's has well has those of the upcoming and very exiting G4 boxes (SMP will make it's come back with that chip). Apple will increase its revenue. If apple wants to still have the lead I think they should publish Today the specs of their beige G3's. And when the G4 are released they could released the specs of the El Capitan.
How will this affect /.'s performance when everybody will use such features (I'de like to say I like the Idea it rocks .....)