Sorry. I just don't know what you're so indignant about, few people here of either gender have the means to live comfortably while raising five children. I'm looking for evidence of chauvinism but I'm hearing a sense of entitlement.
Heh, I'm not questioning the skill of Apple's engineers. I'm pretty sure the phone will ship with capabilities promised.
But I will only accept that I was wrong if there is an SDK available for download on ADC before the end of the year. I even bought a MacBook Pro as a contingency, thought I'm not feeling any particular urgency to learn the platform.
No, but running full-screen streaming video (even at 480x320) with all that dynamic eye candy is a problem, and a hard one. It's the kind of problem that requires dedicated processors (the device has at least three) and serious optimization (they've been contributing to the LLVM project).
I'm sure porting Darwin to ARM was the easiest part of the whole process. The question is - how much did they strip out? How does that affect the SDKs? Just what level of expertise is necessary to write software for the device? Will they have every built-in application promised at Steve's demo?
I'm guessing that is what is going on. They need people who know the internals to write the applications, because it is so complex and the execution environment so fragile it is a necessity.
The demo was largely smoke and mirrors, and as it turns out, delivering that level of functionality on an underpowered device requires corners cut and tremendous optimization.
Of all the various theories about why it won't run third-party software, mine is that they don't want people to actually see what they had to do to Mac OS to get it on the device.
Congratulations, you have established your ownership of a plastic disc. Maybe you'd like to mount it on your wall as art? Or perhaps listen to it in a CD player? I hear they also make great drink coasters.
Based on this document and other articles, it seems Blizzard is claiming is that the manipulation of the WoW executable is vicarious and contributory infringement. Contributory is obvious, since Glider enables the user to bypass Warden and violate the EULA, and thus all subsequent executions are unauthorized, and vicarious, because Glider-boy himself does not have authorization to copy the memory footprint of the executable, and since he can revoke the license keys of Glider, he has direct control of that program. (I'm not sure how this makes him responsible for its use, but hey, no harm in trying everything to see what sticks).
None of these copies are necessary for authorized execution of the software.
"Ultimately it comes down to taste. It comes down to trying to expose yourself to the best things that humans have done and then try to bring those things in to what you're doing. I mean Picasso had a saying, he said good artists copy, great artists steal. And we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas and I think part of what made the Macintosh great was that the people working on it were musicians and poets and artists and zoologists and historians who also happened to be the best computer scientists in the world."
The people "pushing the edge" are quite capable of using the threading APIs of the operating system. If you can't do that, the edge is going to cut you.
Ok, maybe I shouldn't criticize without seeing the implementation, but for some reason instead of a paper the link leads to a 400 megabyte movie. Talk about wasting resources...
Think different. Buddha nature. Don't correct my grammar, you simpering cultist. There are puns in my posts you can't even begin to comprehend.
(Oh, god, I just realized - my online persona would be played by Ben Stiller.)
Actually, before the Zune, the Microsoft system was licensed to partners. Multiple vendors of music, multiple vendors of devices. It might have sucked, but it gave consumers choices and any company could buy into it.
Apple is a vertical monopoly in music players, and wants to be on in computers. One hardware, one software, and one coordinated color scheme for all people. That mainframe in THX 1138 was a Mac! Big Brother was using iChat in that famous commercial!
If you don't address or understand the dangers of monopoly and monoculture, you can't even begin to refute my post.
And no, giving someone a flashy toy does not empower them. Your sister will never make money with iChat (at least, I hope not).
I read an Apple commercial framed in the recontextualizing of sales data to refute an imaginary horde of straw man analysts. It's all a conspiracy, man, designed to keep Steve Jobs down!
The sugar water, changing the world reference might be too subtle for the johnny come lately Mac user, but it refers to the hypocrite nature of Apple, a hardware company positioned as the single largest platform for distributing digital media, who locks down its devices so that only they may sell content for those devices, while promoting the image that they are empowering users with superior software and literally changing the world.
Have you considered the reasons for that lifespan?
PCs are cheap as dirt, and the components are modular and replaceable. Upgrading is not quite the life decision it is with a Mac. There is a lot of PC software. To compete, PC software consumes resources in a never ending arms race to impress users. The upgrade cycle is implied. PC software is written with the expectation that most users will have current hardware.
And BTW, as the Mac cultists were eager to point out in that laptop reliability thread from a few weeks ago, anecdotes are like opinions in that they are like assholes. Everyone thinks their ass is demonstrative of reality, while actually, strippers shave and bleach theirs. Does that clear things up?
And why is he submitting propaganda from the blog of an Apple astroturfer?
I mean, does *anyone* give a rat's fart about the Zune? This article is like beating up on a retarded child to feel big about yourself. And golly geepers, Apple sure did sell a lot of iPods. I guess that makes me, an iPod owner, better than everyone else.
Keep drinking your sugar water, you cultist freak. While you suck on pop music and network television, the rest of us will be changing the world.
Right, when Microsoft bundles free software to sell more software it's evil.
When Apple restricts software to specific hardware to sell more hardware it's good.
So which monopoly is better for its users?
At least Microsoft customers have a healthy distrust of the platform we've bought into. Apple fanboys are conformist and submissive, and will take whatever Apple gives them, and like it. Then they'll put a white sticker on their car and modstorm everyone who commits the slightest offense against their cult.
Remember people, monoculture means a smaller market for all of us, whether it be developers, consultants, integrators, sysadmins, or plain old users. Diversity is a sign of a healthy ecosystem, one with competition that drives innovation. Monoculture means stagnancy and death.
No wonder you keep insisting on using a marketer's definition for the market segmentation. That "ZOMG the PDA is dying" shtick got old three years ago. The PDA went to Finland, got an operation, and is now the "smartphone". We call it that out of politeness. It's still the same device.
I've developed for practically every major PDA / smartphone that's come out in the last five years. I personally use a Nokia 6600 for no other reason than it's small, slurps my address book from Outlook, and with Opera I can surf the web during the commercials before a movie.
You are forgetting about email. The enterprise lubs them some email. That more than anything drives smartphone sales.
And you're complaining about the shortcomings of individual devices. Do you think Apple isn't addressing battery life? It's a music player!
Convergence isn't happening because people are demanding it. Like you said, most people don't even know what these devices can do (yet). Convergence is happening because the components are getting so good and so cheap the manufactures can only distinguish themselves by how much they cram into their devices. The one good Apple will do for this industry is by refocusing us on the quality of features, not just the quantity.
Isn't it amazing how Apple zealots when from "we're a persecuted minority" to "we're popular and ubiquitous" overnight, without any change in their demeanor?
I don't think you quite understand the engineering aspect here. The phone is the killer app added to PDAs.
The question facing consumers has little to do with date books and contact lists - it's do I want to pay more for a device that runs software, like web browsers and music players, or do I want the phone I got for free?
Woah, where you been Fry? Someone forgot to thaw you out before all PDAs became phones?
Palm is now selling this thing called the Treo. It was real popular for a while. Created the smartphone market, you might say. That was a few years ago, now it is just one of many.
And dude, check this out - I got an iPod dock for my jet pack!
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Just link the loser who wrote it: http://www.askmen.com/dating/curtsmith_100/149_dat ing_advice.html
If you want my advice, stop spouting that kind of nonsense and you might get laid.
It's a vagina, not a clown car.
Sorry. I just don't know what you're so indignant about, few people here of either gender have the means to live comfortably while raising five children. I'm looking for evidence of chauvinism but I'm hearing a sense of entitlement.
Heh, I'm not questioning the skill of Apple's engineers. I'm pretty sure the phone will ship with capabilities promised.
But I will only accept that I was wrong if there is an SDK available for download on ADC before the end of the year. I even bought a MacBook Pro as a contingency, thought I'm not feeling any particular urgency to learn the platform.
THIS JUST IN - APPLE requiring MORE EXPENSIVE PC if running MAC OS!
No, but running full-screen streaming video (even at 480x320) with all that dynamic eye candy is a problem, and a hard one. It's the kind of problem that requires dedicated processors (the device has at least three) and serious optimization (they've been contributing to the LLVM project).
I'm sure porting Darwin to ARM was the easiest part of the whole process. The question is - how much did they strip out? How does that affect the SDKs? Just what level of expertise is necessary to write software for the device? Will they have every built-in application promised at Steve's demo?
I'm guessing that is what is going on. They need people who know the internals to write the applications, because it is so complex and the execution environment so fragile it is a necessity.
The demo was largely smoke and mirrors, and as it turns out, delivering that level of functionality on an underpowered device requires corners cut and tremendous optimization.
Of all the various theories about why it won't run third-party software, mine is that they don't want people to actually see what they had to do to Mac OS to get it on the device.
Congratulations, you have established your ownership of a plastic disc. Maybe you'd like to mount it on your wall as art? Or perhaps listen to it in a CD player? I hear they also make great drink coasters.
Based on this document and other articles, it seems Blizzard is claiming is that the manipulation of the WoW executable is vicarious and contributory infringement. Contributory is obvious, since Glider enables the user to bypass Warden and violate the EULA, and thus all subsequent executions are unauthorized, and vicarious, because Glider-boy himself does not have authorization to copy the memory footprint of the executable, and since he can revoke the license keys of Glider, he has direct control of that program. (I'm not sure how this makes him responsible for its use, but hey, no harm in trying everything to see what sticks).
None of these copies are necessary for authorized execution of the software.
lol wut?
If your ownership of the copy is no longer legitimate, you aren't entitled to make additional copies for any reason.
Though I think the tortious interference claim is the one he can't possibly wiggle out off.
Jeff Jarvis takes it apart better than I could.
Don't be so hard on yourself.
When Steve rubs your belly, does it make your leg wiggle? What? He never has? Keep posting, I'm sure he'll notice someday.
People are hacking this thing for the love of the machine and its software. But I'm glad people like you exist to highlight the true nature of Apple.
You can't do business with mobsters without getting your own hands dirty.
Let it go. Apple is a corporation, it does not love you.
Why does this smell familiar?
The relevant quote is well, so very relevant:
"Ultimately it comes down to taste. It comes down to trying to expose yourself to the best things that humans have done and then try to bring those things in to what you're doing. I mean Picasso had a saying, he said good artists copy, great artists steal. And we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas and I think part of what made the Macintosh great was that the people working on it were musicians and poets and artists and zoologists and historians who also happened to be the best computer scientists in the world."
The people "pushing the edge" are quite capable of using the threading APIs of the operating system. If you can't do that, the edge is going to cut you.
Ok, maybe I shouldn't criticize without seeing the implementation, but for some reason instead of a paper the link leads to a 400 megabyte movie. Talk about wasting resources...
"yeah, and the really funny part is that asshole is out of a job and if I have anything to do with it, will never work again."
Word on the street is she's already got a hit out on him. 'Cause you know, all Democrats are murderers. Just look what they do to fetuses!
You'd think they'd be nicer to theirs.
Think different. Buddha nature. Don't correct my grammar, you simpering cultist. There are puns in my posts you can't even begin to comprehend.
(Oh, god, I just realized - my online persona would be played by Ben Stiller.)
Actually, before the Zune, the Microsoft system was licensed to partners. Multiple vendors of music, multiple vendors of devices. It might have sucked, but it gave consumers choices and any company could buy into it.
Apple is a vertical monopoly in music players, and wants to be on in computers. One hardware, one software, and one coordinated color scheme for all people. That mainframe in THX 1138 was a Mac! Big Brother was using iChat in that famous commercial!
If you don't address or understand the dangers of monopoly and monoculture, you can't even begin to refute my post.
And no, giving someone a flashy toy does not empower them. Your sister will never make money with iChat (at least, I hope not).
There is a debate here?
I read an Apple commercial framed in the recontextualizing of sales data to refute an imaginary horde of straw man analysts. It's all a conspiracy, man, designed to keep Steve Jobs down!
The sugar water, changing the world reference might be too subtle for the johnny come lately Mac user, but it refers to the hypocrite nature of Apple, a hardware company positioned as the single largest platform for distributing digital media, who locks down its devices so that only they may sell content for those devices, while promoting the image that they are empowering users with superior software and literally changing the world.
Have you considered the reasons for that lifespan?
PCs are cheap as dirt, and the components are modular and replaceable. Upgrading is not quite the life decision it is with a Mac.
There is a lot of PC software. To compete, PC software consumes resources in a never ending arms race to impress users.
The upgrade cycle is implied. PC software is written with the expectation that most users will have current hardware.
And BTW, as the Mac cultists were eager to point out in that laptop reliability thread from a few weeks ago, anecdotes are like opinions in that they are like assholes. Everyone thinks their ass is demonstrative of reality, while actually, strippers shave and bleach theirs. Does that clear things up?
And why is he submitting propaganda from the blog of an Apple astroturfer?
I mean, does *anyone* give a rat's fart about the Zune? This article is like beating up on a retarded child to feel big about yourself. And golly geepers, Apple sure did sell a lot of iPods. I guess that makes me, an iPod owner, better than everyone else.
Keep drinking your sugar water, you cultist freak. While you suck on pop music and network television, the rest of us will be changing the world.
Right, when Microsoft bundles free software to sell more software it's evil.
When Apple restricts software to specific hardware to sell more hardware it's good.
So which monopoly is better for its users?
At least Microsoft customers have a healthy distrust of the platform we've bought into. Apple fanboys are conformist and submissive, and will take whatever Apple gives them, and like it. Then they'll put a white sticker on their car and modstorm everyone who commits the slightest offense against their cult.
Remember people, monoculture means a smaller market for all of us, whether it be developers, consultants, integrators, sysadmins, or plain old users. Diversity is a sign of a healthy ecosystem, one with competition that drives innovation. Monoculture means stagnancy and death.
No wonder you keep insisting on using a marketer's definition for the market segmentation. That "ZOMG the PDA is dying" shtick got old three years ago. The PDA went to Finland, got an operation, and is now the "smartphone". We call it that out of politeness. It's still the same device.
I've developed for practically every major PDA / smartphone that's come out in the last five years. I personally use a Nokia 6600 for no other reason than it's small, slurps my address book from Outlook, and with Opera I can surf the web during the commercials before a movie.
You are forgetting about email. The enterprise lubs them some email. That more than anything drives smartphone sales.
And you're complaining about the shortcomings of individual devices. Do you think Apple isn't addressing battery life? It's a music player!
Convergence isn't happening because people are demanding it. Like you said, most people don't even know what these devices can do (yet). Convergence is happening because the components are getting so good and so cheap the manufactures can only distinguish themselves by how much they cram into their devices. The one good Apple will do for this industry is by refocusing us on the quality of features, not just the quantity.
Isn't it amazing how Apple zealots when from "we're a persecuted minority" to "we're popular and ubiquitous" overnight, without any change in their demeanor?
You don't have Futurama? You poor deprived soul.
I don't think you quite understand the engineering aspect here. The phone is the killer app added to PDAs.
The question facing consumers has little to do with date books and contact lists - it's do I want to pay more for a device that runs software, like web browsers and music players, or do I want the phone I got for free?
Woah, where you been Fry? Someone forgot to thaw you out before all PDAs became phones?
Palm is now selling this thing called the Treo. It was real popular for a while. Created the smartphone market, you might say. That was a few years ago, now it is just one of many.
And dude, check this out - I got an iPod dock for my jet pack!
Somehow I get the impression that the iPhone's future... destiny, if you will... is already determined
So what you're saying is, the iPhone will go crazy and explode?
Why are vacuous oracles always rated insightful in Apple threads?