The fervor with which the round-mouse-hating crowd despises Jonathan Ive's gorgeous input device approaches the hate-fueled fervor of Southern fundamentalists toward evolution or Nazis towards books. It's the same closed-minded, retarded group mentality that kept DOS users hating the graphic user interface. Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up already!
The round mouse is far superior to the old, constipated, turd-shaped mouse. But you suckers just don't get it.
For example, at Macworld SF2000 last week, "popular" Mac columnist Geek Levitus said, "I replace mine with good mice and play roller hockey with the old ones. They absolutely have got to go.'' What an asshole. I.D. magazine proclaimed the round mouse one of the big design blunders of the millennium or some shit (in their recent millennium issue with an unusually excellent profile of UCLA's virtual reality program).
What is a "good" mouse, anyway? A big, cushy, shit-shaped piece of plastic? "Ergonomic" mouses have been introduced, one after another, for the past decade or more -- MouseMan, WheelMan, Orbit, SmartMouse, TurboMouse, TrackBall, QBall, SuckmyBalls -- each one with its own shape, curves, weird button placement. Has any of them improved upon the next? Do they need leather cushions built into them? Or perhaps seven buttons? Is Microsoft's insipid "Intellimouse Explorer", with its arbitrary industrial design, some sort of universal ergonomic godsend that'll cure its user of any hand or wrist pain while using it?
No, goddamnit. No amount of cushions and buttons and wheels and trackballs and whatnot will fix the problem with mice: that you have to rest your hand on them for long periods of time. In fact, making them bigger or more "comfortable" or more bizarrely shaped only makes matters worse: they're designed to keep your hand on them longer, increasing the likelihood of carpal tunnel syndrome or, even worse, dorkus stayathomeitis.
The mouse "Man" wants you to have wrist pain, sucka! That way he can sell you more "ergonomic" contraptions -- gel pads, palm-heel-rests with ball bearings, electromagnetically-charged wristbands, translucent finger struts. It's a deadly cycle that will kill you, brother. Or, at the very least, empty your wallet faster than you can empty your backside cache.
Johnny Ive realized this when he designed a mouse that one CAN'T rest one's hand on. It's so small and light that the CORRECT way to use it, motherfucker, is to lightly and gently guide it with only the tips of three fingers. A subtle yet significant benefit of such think-different mouseholding is that it's more like holding a pencil. I can draw in Photoshop or Illustrator more naturally -- guiding the cursor not with my palm-heel but with my index finger. Manipulating the mouse with one's palm-heel now seems incredibly primitive -- like trying to eat soup with one's ass.
The scary thing is that Steve Jobs might actually cave in to the pressure of these vocal shitforbrains round-mouse-haters, and replace it with a more retrograde design. I say to you mouse Nazis: for shame.
yes, it does mean software compression is moot. duh. also, it won't "double" your memory - god, how i hate that claim. such bullshit.
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jon here has obviously not read the article. in the context of the article, his comment should be rated (-1, off topic). to the moderators: read before you rate. what is/. coming to? this is like a lot of people discussing THE WRONG THING. i guess part of the problem is the title of the post: The article does *NOT* state that x86 is obsolete. go read it, it's good.
OK, has anybody bothered to read the article? from the comments here, certainly not the first posters. the article is excellent and proves that not x86 is obsolete, but the question whether x86 is obsolete is completely meaningless. i don't want to repeat the article - so go and read it.
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ever thought about saving energy? jeez! no wonder america makes up for 80% of the world's energy consumption. talk about waste. how many nuclear power plants are we running just so people don't have to boot in the morning?
heloo-o? do you ever read the articles you glance at?
if so, you might have noticed that most people give courtney *newfound* respect. because of her speech on RIAA/Napster/labels/artists. because it is the best damn article on this topic i have ever seen. go read it.
YEAH! courtney love is a whole lot smarter and more articulate than one might think. i would marry her in an instant - for her brains. also, she cites neal stephenson. so go read it! you won't be disappointed. this could become some sort of fundamental speech. it should...
courtney love is absolutely dead on right about everything she says. her summary of the workings of the RIAA scam, the artists, and how Napster fits in the picture is the best i have ever read. her speech is a must read for everyone daring to have an opinion on the matter. she is fucking brilliant: clear, concise, visionary... plus, she looks good, too.
germany and austria (which i know of for sure) have 220. as per the post above, the british have 240. and the netherlands 230. good ole europe. YES, ITS TRUE: we can never agree on anything!
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just to add another example: i *love* the TV show "friends" over here. got back and watched it in the german dubbed version and its *god-awful*. it seems when they translated Friends, they left out all the jokes. amazing!
And you aren't the least bit suspicious that that number is cooked up? i was, in fact, wondering about this: how could he possibly know? is there a filter for "unsigned artists"?
unfortunately, you are missing his whole point. the point is that you are not going to get the numbers without advertising, which is what the record companies do for you. in addition, this was not his reason for going after napster.
i think the analogy with the book of the month was just excellent. no-one asked metallica. metallica has no say about whether people can copy their material or not - that's, quite understandably, their problem with it.
this interview is totally consistent with metallica songs, so i have all the respect in the world for this man and this band.
to sum up the previous post: it's beautiful - so it can't be any good.
don't people ever learn? usability and good looks are orthagonal - but i am going to like the good looking interface better.
think about cars. some are pretty. some are ugly. some are practical. some are not. one has nothing to do with the other. the best ones are BOTH pretty and practical.
all other things being equal, i still like the pretty ones better. some times, i even take a slight hit in usability just for the good looks. i appreciate good (and by that i mean pleasant to look at) design.
that looks adversely affect usability is an assumption that comes from way back when, when people thought that GUIs were just pretty faces and "serious work" could only be done with ugly, text-based CLIs. it's complete BS. the argument is so old, it's not even funny.
in all other consumer goods, design is a major factor. why should it be different for your OS??
Looks should not damage usability. With those nifty-looking colored buttons, I'm afraid they do (for novices, in this case).
i hate those lame-o "warning" voices! who said nifty-colored buttons are hard to use for novices? how many "novices" did you ask? the truth is, they are different from what you know, they are new, and therefore you have this inherent resistance. you are a design conservative, nothing else. that's fine and i don't mind it - but don't bring fake arguments. next thing, you will say it's bad for the children! your so-called novices would probably not even notice that these buttons are "hard to use".
oh, and as for don norman and his excellent book: as excellent as it is, it is not, and was never meant to be, a bible. it is pretty old by now and has to be read keeping this fact in mind. the UI challenges back then were inherently different from today's. basic computer knowledge is prevalent nowadays, and no-one will have trouble closing a window any more. many standard GUI metaphors have become "knowledge in the world", just because people got used to them.
gee-whiz! i am sure they needed a big comittee for this and will work on rules and regulations for the next ten years.
what is the -bleep- point of the TLDs anyways? why can't we have -really_bad_word- arbitrary TLDs? because... then all the -dont_call_them_that- companies who paid lots of money for their bank.com domains look even -filthy_word- than today? or because horrible people will register.-expletive- domains? -slang_for_coital_activity- that -metabolic_result-!
the very reason that we need to have the region code debate means that there is a monopoly and the free market does not work. there are laws against monopolies/cartels so they can be smashed. think about it: many consumers HATE region codes while some of them don't care. where are the competitors, the entrepreneurs, that immediately jump in and fill the demand for region-code free DVSs? the free market does not work here - instead, people get ripped off by the control freaks of the MPAA/DVD. this is WHY there are cartel laws. sue their pants off, smash the organization, get some competition going, and everything will be OK.
well, just for the record, i *love* brian boitano!
the jokes about him are funny because a) he is a male figure skater with a funny name b) it makes fun of the whole figure skating-craze in the US. i have never seen as much figure skating featured on TV in europe. probably the same in canada. meaning: no-one gives a shit, but it is something of an american-dream-fairy-tale thing that a lot of people in the US pretend to be very interested in. c) he is one of those horrible pseudo-famous people - famous, but not quite, that *the people we like to make evil fun of* would recognize from the tabloids, but no one with even half a life knows.
in any case. the brian boitano song is great!! i loved it even when i did not know anything about BB.
hey, Mr. floppy-user, that is why you have the OPTION of BUYING a floppy drive (or 2 or 3) for you mac. get all the floppy drives you want. i detest them. i have not used a floppy drive in years. everything small enough to go on one floppy, i can easily send over email (even on a modem). everything bigger should go on a CD anyways. i have a laptop and i am really not very interested in a piece of technology right out of the stone age of computing taking up 1/3 of the space in my computer. same for desktop: it is nasty, evil, old stuff, and i am glad someone had the guts to remove it (PC makers are following the lead), so that we can let floppies rest in the dustbins of history. once enough computers ship without floppies, manufacturers will have to ship everything on CDs...
i think it is the people who design hard-to-use interfaces that are dumb. i have a degree in CS and know as much about computers as any sane non-CS person would want to know - yet i much prefer UIs that DONT require me to do akward things or read a 500 page manual. i know unix/x and windoze for professional reasons. but you know how much ACTUAL WORK i get done with a Mac? a LOT more. on unix, it is the tendency to make everything super-complicated. on windoze, it is the crappy mouse handling (WHAT are they thinking??) and the general clumsiness of things.
Well said! Here is what i think we should do: We should all get together (EFF or something), each pay $50, and sue the ass off the people who require country codes in DVDs. reason: Consumer Fraud. with the arguments you have. We would win. They are a monopoly (or cartel - whatever you may call it) and abuse their power to deliberately make DVDs incompatible. i see a case here.
The counter-argument will be that they will then stop producing DVDs. i don't think so. it is way too late to stop the DVD-train, and they want to make money - which they will, even without the silly "country code". besides: the country code does not prevent one person in china or russia from mass-pirating DVDs. IT ALSO does NOT give ONE average person in russia or china more money so they can BUY western DVDs.
There is a new Mass Media: Us. The internet. Old Mass Media will spin the story as they see fit. But no mass media outlet can ignore the internet - and thereby, no mass media can ignore/. and its contributors. Here is the difference between old and new: They are trying to make money selling their opinion - We are doing it for free - who has more credibility? We say what we think - They say what they think we want to hear - who has more credibility?
if you know what lawyers cost, it would seem excessively expensive on etoyS part to do it just for the shopping season... i mean, if a lot depended on it, yes, but if it is just some people who can't type URLs but know how to complain... well... BAD INVESTMENT.
the RIAA was a scam to extract money for non-existant services. once, it was neccessary. then, it became a monopoly and decided to go for the big buck. now, it is dead. it is trying to play the internet game. unfortunately, there is no place for the RIAA in the new world. so they are trying to stop the flood. ps: Hillary, you seem to be a smart person. So here is my advice: go look for another job. the internet with its fast and ubiquitous delivery makes the RIAA completely obsolete. and the internet is unstoppable, even by lawyers.
...funny. another wannabe or once-was media superpower fighting... THE INTERNET. sure, fight the internet. good luck. i laugh at your petty little efforts to preserve your completely unwarranted monopoly. we see through you, RIAA.
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The fervor with which the round-mouse-hating crowd despises Jonathan Ive's gorgeous input device approaches the hate-fueled fervor of Southern fundamentalists toward evolution or Nazis towards books. It's the same closed-minded, retarded group mentality that kept DOS users hating the graphic user interface. Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up already!
The round mouse is far superior to the old, constipated, turd-shaped mouse. But you suckers just don't get it.
For example, at Macworld SF2000 last week, "popular" Mac columnist Geek Levitus said, "I replace mine with good mice and play roller hockey with the old ones. They absolutely have got to go.'' What an asshole. I.D. magazine proclaimed the round mouse one of the big design blunders of the millennium or some shit (in their recent millennium issue with an unusually excellent profile of UCLA's virtual reality program).
What is a "good" mouse, anyway? A big, cushy, shit-shaped piece of plastic? "Ergonomic" mouses have been introduced, one after another, for the past decade or more -- MouseMan, WheelMan, Orbit, SmartMouse, TurboMouse, TrackBall, QBall, SuckmyBalls -- each one with its own shape, curves, weird button placement. Has any of them improved upon the next? Do they need leather cushions built into them? Or perhaps seven buttons? Is Microsoft's insipid "Intellimouse Explorer", with its arbitrary industrial design, some sort of universal ergonomic godsend that'll cure its user of any hand or wrist pain while using it?
No, goddamnit. No amount of cushions and buttons and wheels and trackballs and whatnot will fix the problem with mice: that you have to rest your hand on them for long periods of time. In fact, making them bigger or more "comfortable" or more bizarrely shaped only makes matters worse: they're designed to keep your hand on them longer, increasing the likelihood of carpal tunnel syndrome or, even worse, dorkus stayathomeitis.
The mouse "Man" wants you to have wrist pain, sucka! That way he can sell you more "ergonomic" contraptions -- gel pads, palm-heel-rests with ball bearings, electromagnetically-charged wristbands, translucent finger struts. It's a deadly cycle that will kill you, brother. Or, at the very least, empty your wallet faster than you can empty your backside cache.
Johnny Ive realized this when he designed a mouse that one CAN'T rest one's hand on. It's so small and light that the CORRECT way to use it, motherfucker, is to lightly and gently guide it with only the tips of three fingers. A subtle yet significant benefit of such think-different mouseholding is that it's more like holding a pencil. I can draw in Photoshop or Illustrator more naturally -- guiding the cursor not with my palm-heel but with my index finger. Manipulating the mouse with one's palm-heel now seems incredibly primitive -- like trying to eat soup with one's ass.
The scary thing is that Steve Jobs might actually cave in to the pressure of these vocal shitforbrains round-mouse-haters, and replace it with a more retrograde design. I say to you mouse Nazis: for shame.
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says it all, doesn't it?
yes, it does mean software compression is moot. duh. also, it won't "double" your memory - god, how i hate that claim. such bullshit.
jon here has obviously not read the article. in the context of the article, his comment should be rated (-1, off topic). /. coming to? this is like a lot of people discussing THE WRONG THING.
to the moderators: read before you rate.
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i guess part of the problem is the title of the post:
The article does *NOT* state that x86 is obsolete. go read it, it's good.
OK, has anybody bothered to read the article? from the comments here, certainly not the first posters.
the article is excellent and proves that not x86 is obsolete, but the question whether x86 is obsolete is completely meaningless. i don't want to repeat the article - so go and read it.
ever thought about saving energy? jeez! no wonder america makes up for 80% of the world's energy consumption.
talk about waste. how many nuclear power plants are we running just so people don't have to boot in the morning?
heloo-o? do you ever read the articles you glance at?
if so, you might have noticed that most people give courtney *newfound* respect. because of her speech on RIAA/Napster/labels/artists. because it is the best damn article on this topic i have ever seen. go read it.
YEAH! courtney love is a whole lot smarter and more articulate than one might think. i would marry her in an instant - for her brains. also, she cites neal stephenson. so go read it! you won't be disappointed. this could become some sort of fundamental speech. it should...
courtney love is absolutely dead on right about everything she says. her summary of the workings of the RIAA scam, the artists, and how Napster fits in the picture is the best i have ever read.
her speech is a must read for everyone daring to have an opinion on the matter. she is fucking brilliant: clear, concise, visionary... plus, she looks good, too.
OK this is getting out of hand.
but... it all makes so much sense now!
germany and austria (which i know of for sure) have 220. as per the post above, the british have 240. and the netherlands 230. good ole europe. YES, ITS TRUE: we can never agree on anything!
just to add another example: i *love* the TV show "friends" over here. got back and watched it in the german dubbed version and its *god-awful*.
it seems when they translated Friends, they left out all the jokes. amazing!
And you aren't the least bit suspicious that that number is cooked up?
i was, in fact, wondering about this: how could he possibly know? is there a filter for "unsigned artists"?
unfortunately, you are missing his whole point. the point is that you are not going to get the numbers without advertising, which is what the record companies do for you. in addition, this was not his reason for going after napster.
i think the analogy with the book of the month was just excellent. no-one asked metallica. metallica has no say about whether people can copy their material or not - that's, quite understandably, their problem with it.
this interview is totally consistent with metallica songs, so i have all the respect in the world for this man and this band.
just a guess: maybe the designers can't wait to get away from NT and back on their beloved mac boxes, now that the mac has a serious OS again?
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to sum up the previous post: it's beautiful - so it can't be any good.
don't people ever learn? usability and good looks are orthagonal - but i am going to like the good looking interface better.
think about cars. some are pretty. some are ugly. some are practical. some are not. one has nothing to do with the other. the best ones are BOTH pretty and practical.
all other things being equal, i still like the pretty ones better. some times, i even take a slight hit in usability just for the good looks. i appreciate good (and by that i mean pleasant to look at) design.
that looks adversely affect usability is an assumption that comes from way back when, when people thought that GUIs were just pretty faces and "serious work" could only be done with ugly, text-based CLIs. it's complete BS. the argument is so old, it's not even funny.
in all other consumer goods, design is a major factor. why should it be different for your OS??
Looks should not damage usability. With those nifty-looking colored buttons, I'm afraid they do (for novices, in this case).
i hate those lame-o "warning" voices! who said nifty-colored buttons are hard to use for novices? how many "novices" did you ask? the truth is, they are different from what you know, they are new, and therefore you have this inherent resistance. you are a design conservative, nothing else. that's fine and i don't mind it - but don't bring fake arguments. next thing, you will say it's bad for the children!
your so-called novices would probably not even notice that these buttons are "hard to use".
oh, and as for don norman and his excellent book: as excellent as it is, it is not, and was never meant to be, a bible. it is pretty old by now and has to be read keeping this fact in mind. the UI challenges back then were inherently different from today's. basic computer knowledge is prevalent nowadays, and no-one will have trouble closing a window any more. many standard GUI metaphors have become "knowledge in the world", just because people got used to them.
gee-whiz! i am sure they needed a big comittee for this and will work on rules and regulations for the next ten years.
.-expletive- domains? -slang_for_coital_activity- that -metabolic_result-!
what is the -bleep- point of the TLDs anyways? why can't we have -really_bad_word- arbitrary TLDs? because... then all the -dont_call_them_that- companies who paid lots of money for their bank.com domains look even -filthy_word- than today? or because horrible people will register
fuck you, lameness filter!
the very reason that we need to have the region code debate means that there is a monopoly and the free market does not work. there are laws against monopolies/cartels so they can be smashed. think about it: many consumers HATE region codes while some of them don't care. where are the competitors, the entrepreneurs, that immediately jump in and fill the demand for region-code free DVSs? the free market does not work here - instead, people get ripped off by the control freaks of the MPAA/DVD. this is WHY there are cartel laws. sue their pants off, smash the organization, get some competition going, and everything will be OK.
well, just for the record, i *love* brian boitano!
the jokes about him are funny because
a) he is a male figure skater with a funny name
b) it makes fun of the whole figure skating-craze in the US. i have never seen as much figure skating featured on TV in europe. probably the same in canada. meaning: no-one gives a shit, but it is something of an american-dream-fairy-tale thing that a lot of people in the US pretend to be very interested in.
c) he is one of those horrible pseudo-famous people - famous, but not quite, that *the people we like to make evil fun of* would recognize from the tabloids, but no one with even half a life knows.
in any case. the brian boitano song is great!! i loved it even when i did not know anything about BB.
hey, Mr. floppy-user, that is why you have the OPTION of BUYING a floppy drive (or 2 or 3) for you mac. get all the floppy drives you want.
i detest them. i have not used a floppy drive in years. everything small enough to go on one floppy, i can easily send over email (even on a modem). everything bigger should go on a CD anyways.
i have a laptop and i am really not very interested in a piece of technology right out of the stone age of computing taking up 1/3 of the space in my computer.
same for desktop: it is nasty, evil, old stuff, and i am glad someone had the guts to remove it (PC makers are following the lead), so that we can let floppies rest in the dustbins of history. once enough computers ship without floppies, manufacturers will have to ship everything on CDs...
i think it is the people who design hard-to-use interfaces that are dumb. i have a degree in CS and know as much about computers as any sane non-CS person would want to know - yet i much prefer UIs that DONT require me to do akward things or read a 500 page manual. i know unix/x and windoze for professional reasons. but you know how much ACTUAL WORK i get done with a Mac? a LOT more. on unix, it is the tendency to make everything super-complicated. on windoze, it is the crappy mouse handling (WHAT are they thinking??) and the general clumsiness of things.
Well said!
Here is what i think we should do: We should all get together (EFF or something), each pay $50, and sue the ass off the people who require country codes in DVDs. reason: Consumer Fraud. with the arguments you have. We would win. They are a monopoly (or cartel - whatever you may call it) and abuse their power to deliberately make DVDs incompatible. i see a case here.
The counter-argument will be that they will then stop producing DVDs. i don't think so. it is way too late to stop the DVD-train, and they want to make money - which they will, even without the silly "country code". besides: the country code does not prevent one person in china or russia from mass-pirating DVDs. IT ALSO does NOT give ONE average person in russia or china more money so they can BUY western DVDs.
There is a new Mass Media: Us. The internet. Old Mass Media will spin the story as they see fit. But no mass media outlet can ignore the internet - and thereby, no mass media can ignore /. and its contributors.
Here is the difference between old and new: They are trying to make money selling their opinion - We are doing it for free - who has more credibility? We say what we think - They say what they think we want to hear - who has more credibility?
if you know what lawyers cost, it would seem excessively expensive on etoyS part to do it just for the shopping season...
i mean, if a lot depended on it, yes, but if it is just some people who can't type URLs but know how to complain... well... BAD INVESTMENT.
the RIAA was a scam to extract money for non-existant services. once, it was neccessary. then, it became a monopoly and decided to go for the big buck. now, it is dead.
it is trying to play the internet game. unfortunately, there is no place for the RIAA in the new world. so they are trying to stop the flood.
ps: Hillary, you seem to be a smart person. So here is my advice: go look for another job. the internet with its fast and ubiquitous delivery makes the RIAA completely obsolete. and the internet is unstoppable, even by lawyers.
...funny. another wannabe or once-was media superpower fighting... THE INTERNET.
sure, fight the internet. good luck. i laugh at your petty little efforts to preserve your completely unwarranted monopoly. we see through you, RIAA.