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Linux 3.11-rc7 Release Celebrates 22 Years of Linux
An anonymous reader writes "It was on this day 22 years ago when Linus Torvalds humbly announced Linux and today he played on that in announcing the Linux 3.11-rc7 kernel release. The final Linux 3.11 kernel release is expected in about one week."
This year is the year!
Linus was humble once?
Meanwhile Windows has gone from Windows 3.11 to 95, 98, __, 2K, XP, 2K3, _______, Windows 7 and finally Windows 8 and each and every time made huge progress!
Linux? Same old login prompt!
JK. At least my comment is better than the two first ones.
Lazy lazy LAZY !!
I think the Linux kernel development team have slightly higher standards than Microsoft.
Linux is the operating system of the people. This alone justifies its existence.
I don't think so. the best video editing tool available on Linux (Kino) is no longer maintained. The other software are either in alpha stage or crash consistently.
At least this video was made from Kino :
Kino sample
I think its about time that Linux was adapted for Workgroups. How anyone could justify releasing version 3.11 without them this late in the game is something I just cannot fathom.
That could very well be, all I can say is that every time I update Linux chanses are way highter that one of a) sound or b) wifi is going to be either wonky or go completely bellyup, something I never see with Windows anymore.
Label the DOSe at 1 (win16 real)
Label the extended DOS at 2 (w16 and w9x)
Label the NT 3x as 3
Label the NT 4x as 4
Label the NT 5x as 5 (w2k, xp)
Label the NT 6x as 6 (vista, 7, 8)
Face the facts. These are that. Win 3.11 was a 2nd gen, and if you want to, pure shit compared to today. Not pure shit, but makes you think people were very, very stupid back then. Still are, but most are on Facebook so they wear badges considering.
Linux kernel is there around NT 3x kernel.
I have spoken.
Hi. I'm a virus. Please send me to all your friends. Thanks!
";login:" worked perfectly well and they shouldn't have broken compatibility and confused millions of users.
They may have higher standards, but they very rarely reach them.
I cant wait till the windows version comes out!
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It was 22 years ago today that Linus Torvalds last humbly announced anything.
Buy better hardware...
# touch universe # chmod +rwx universe #
Nor does he do anything else humbly. He's too busy trying to be the biggest asshole he can be to do anything humbly.
Hey, at least they're making progress. 13 years ago Windows was up to 2000, now they've gone all the way down to 8. That's 1992 versions! At this rate they'll hit zero in just 19 days.
Sometimes a version number is a version number and not an association of a long defunct product.
Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
Ah, the mystical BSD troll.
Not the original AC, but thought I'd mention that Linux updates have hosed my network interface configs on three separate occasions in the last year or so. If I'd been a regular user, I'd have given up on Linux after the first time because 'updates broke my internet'.
When I type uname -r on my Ubuntu install here it says kernel version 3.5.... what gives?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Surely, this will be the year of the desktop.
Well I don't know what you are doing wrong, but it is definitely something. I have been using Mandrake->Mandriva->Mageia Linux, as well as several other distros and I can count on one hand the number of problems like this I have had in the last 7 years or so, even if I lop all my fingers off and my thumb.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
This what what Linux Zealots, and you are a fierce one, can't grasp: So, you've have very few problems. You want a cookie? Meanwhile, a significant number of others have had problems. And, true to the Zealots Code, you blame the user:
Well I don't know what you are doing wrong, but it is definitely something.
A significant number of people have problems "with Windows" when it turns out to be a matter of the user doing something wrong too. What's your point?
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
Concurred : I spent the last seven years on Debian, all upgrades went without a hitch, all my software needs being covered many times over.
Also, I have been working full time for over 3 years with an eee pc, which is close to unusable under Windows, and quite pleasant with linux.
Linux will never reach year of the desktop even with this kernel release coming up. In a lot of ways Linux right now in various distro's such as Ubuntu and variants like it kind of remind me of the Windows 3.x and 95 days. You might have decent driver support for most hardware but come time to upgrading the kernel more often then not you break the official closed source nvidia drivers along with your nice GUI boot screen that usually hides all the normal boot messages from the kernel as it's loaded up until you see your fancy login screen. Same goes with the god awful support of AMD video support in Linux both with official and open source drivers and more often then not your network and ow wi-fi settings might be hosed or you may not even have the WI-FI driver needed and then it's a mad dash off to the official Ubuntu forums for help.
And applications need to be improved too in some area's. There's really only one half assed decent CD/DVD/BR burning program and thats K3B that actually won't produce messed up unreadable discs. Wheras in Windows you have the excellent free CDBurnerXP or if you like bloatware "one does it all" package the commercial Nero Burning rom. Video players in Linux suck too when you don't have much choice been mplayer and it's front ends and VLC. Gnome Mplayer as a front-end example can't even jump to a specific point in hours, minutes, or seconds in a video if you want and won't allow you to save bookmarks.
VLC on the other hand DOES allow you to jump to a specific time, but it sure as hell can't save bookmarks at any point in a video until you use a workaround of saving a bookmark into a playlist file, and not too mention that when playing audio files VLC will absolutely ignore embedded artwork in say Ogg Vorbis and FLAC files and by default will try and download cover art that's garbage in quality or completly wrong.
When in comparison to windows xp/7/8 you have K-lite media codec pack and the great Media Player Classic HC (MPC-HC) that not only has more modern video renderers such as Haala and MadVR but can also use newer LAV audio/video decoders for much better picture and sound quality compared to VLC, and if you don't want to use LAV decoders you can use ffmpeg included with k-lite instead and STILL get better picture quality. Oh and also no problems playing DVD's either when even with restricted-extra's packages in Ubuntu and variants and some other stuff installed to play dvd's you still find the occasional DVD that will not play because of it's copy protection garbage.
Image viewers and editors aren't much better. Irfanview and Xnview are great to use but all you have with Ubuntu is the newer XnviewMP (Multi-Platform) which is really the only decent image viewer on Linux these day's that isn't retarded. For editors sure you have GIMP on Windows, Linux ETC but Adobe Photoshop still has a fair amount of features that GIMP doesn't have. Audio players in Ubuntu suffer too when the only decent audio player is Audacious but in comparison to Foobar2000 on windows which does so much freaking more it's like night and day.
Overall in a lot of ways windows has better apps in some areas or has more development in some area's towards audio and video quality in playback. It's just that for the most part a lot of people are dumbasses and don't take precautions of running ONLY Firefox as a browser with Adblock Plus, Noscript, Cookie Controller, Ghostery (or DoNotTrackMe if you prefer) and Socialfixer (to fix whats annoying as hell on facebook) and don't actually read each popup from an installer asking if you'd like to install "X toolbar" or "X program" and automatically default to YES until you click no or refuse to avoid getting malware and viruses and browser hijackers simply because people are too stupid to read and in a hurry to always click through every screen. That and people who still to this day launch attachments from emails.
Linux is no better either these days with some newer malware packages showing up and with all those so called wonderful Linux help
You must master your joystick like a fisherman masters bait! - Gimpy
rule 4fr!
The only time I've seen that in a Linux box was almost ten years ago, and Windows shared the same problem. Neither I nor Windows could find a driver for the sound chip so I bought a USB Sound blaster. Chip worked fine in Linux but not Windows, Creative Labs worked fine in Windows but not in Linux. As to wifi I've not had issues with wifi in either OS in an Acer notebook, or a Dell or HP tower. However, wifi connects a lell of a lot faster in Linux.
I bought a bluetooth dongle to get pictures from my phone to my computer, and I didn't think it would work in Linux because there were installation programs for Mac and Windows but not Linux. It turned out Linux simply didn't need them, I plugged the dongle in and it just worked, no installation whatever.
Your favorite OS is years behind linux, shill. And "chances" is spelled with a C and "belly up" is not a single word.
Kernel 3.11! WTF. I do embedded Linux and this sucks. Instead of splitting kernel and device drivers and stay with the kernel improvment/bug fixes we get now minor releases almost every month for the whole kernel. It's getting so complex that it looks more like a Windows than a *nix.
One example : user installs Debian, can't see the wifi networks. What did he do wrong?
Exactly. You obviously agree with my. As another example. A user installs Windows. He can't see the WiFi networks. What did he do wrong?
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
The Windows user can fix it himself by double-clicking a setup.exe stored on a CD-ROM or USB stick, provided by Broadcom or TP-Link or D-Link etc. ; the Debian user needs sysadmin skills , wired connection to the internet and knowledge about what a "firmware blob image" is.
Buy better hardware...
That doesn't always work. If you buy a better sound card, you will get worse linux drivers, as ALSA devs are busy supporting Intel HDA and Realtek ALC instead.
No. They cannot. They don't know what a device driver is, in fact. They don't know how to verify if they have a hardware issue or a software issue. They just know "the damn thing isn't working! They have no idea what wireless networking is, except that they know they can connect to the intertubes.
... and the Microsoft Server 2012, Windows 7, Windows 8, etc. "user" (i.e. sysadmin) needs the same sysadmin skills. Again, you have shown where the user is ignorant, and that ignorance has bit him in the ass. He is trying to play system administrator sans the qualifications necessary to do so. If he wants to try his hand at Linux system administration he could use a distribution that is designed for a "user" (i.e. sysadmin) of his skill level. For example, Mandriva and Mageia cater to the newbie crowd quite well. They are but two distributions that will handle all the tasks you mentioned for you quite well, and have GUI interfaces for everything you want to do, including setting up a DNS Server, etc.
In fact, a good distribution like Mageia is easier to install and configure than Windows, and I mean by a long shot. If you have trouble believing that then you have never seen a typical user try to install Windows. I have never seen a user who could do it correctly.
How do I install a LAMP stack on Windows? I couldn't possible answer that in this post. How do I install a complete LAMP stack in Mageia? Simple: Open a konsole using the menu, type su - followed by the enter key, and enter the password to become root, then do urpmi tsask-lamp. In case you missed it, that was the complete instructions to install an entire LAMP Stack in one sentence. Sure, there are some "packages" you can use for Windows, but lets look at the first FAQ I found. What? I'm a friggin user! How do I know if I have Service Pack 2, whatever the hell that is? I thought Firewall was a movie with Harrison Ford! What the hell is a port? WTF!:
I have helped many, many people switch to Linux, and with one exception they all thanked me time and again for helping them get away from Windows and its complications. The one exception's objection? Somebody told me hackers use Linux! You installed it! Your a hacker! Get it off my system right now! Translation: He was a complete moron.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun