MS lets Transmeta exist? Where'd you conjure up that kind of bizarre logic?
Eh?
Go back and read the posts. I said that Dell and Gateway exist because MS lets them exist. I also gave an example (involving Compaq) on just how threatening MS can be to an OEM.
I never said Transmetta exists b/c MS lets them exist.
But it is a whole different matter if you are talking hardware.
Not really. If you do something that MS' doesn't like and they draw a bead on your head, they will take you out one way or another. Take the case I pointed out earlier which illustrates my point.
Back in the late 90s MS threatened to pull Compaq's Win95 license because they shipped with Netscape on the desktop.
Compaq promptly ditched Netscape and installed IE.
If MS really wanted to take out Logitech, they could give away keyboards to all the OEM's so they would bundle them with every system. If they didn't bundle, then they don't get to participate in the 'MS Advertising Credit System' or some such racket.
Far fetched? Maybe not. After all MS spent many, many millions of dollars developing IE and then gave it away. Why not give away keyboards and mice to all the OEMs?
Oh man, look at this history of Quicken. Microsoft tried damn hard to kill Quicken. Damn hard. In fact, they were going to just give and buy out Quicken, but the DOJ blocked the buyout.
Yup, in MS' zest to kill Netscape they let Quicken have an icon on the Active Desktop. They also got Quicken to force the installation of IE along side Quicken.
Do they want to kill them or do they like them?
If they really wanted to kill Quicken, they would bundle Money-Lite with the OS and if they really wanted to kill Quicken, they wouldn't have given them a spot on the Active Desktop years ago.
This is totally nuts. In presenting Microsoft's trustworthy computing initiative, Mundie defended the company's reluctance to follow through and accept legal responsibility for the security of its products. "If we took that responsibility, say for a big contract at Airbus, I would have to take out a giant insurance policy from Lloyds or another insurance broker, and pay a giant invoice," said Mundie. "The product would then cost not 50 euros, but 50 million."
I used to be able to go to any Netscape 4.X system, point it to my web server server and have it pull down my bookmarks, mail filters, cookies, mail server configurations, and a few other things (like digital certs).
That is the only reason I would like a single-sign on.
You'll get no more personal information from me than I want you to have. Personally, I could care less if you get my zdnet/slashdot uesr id and password. BFD.
But, you'll NEVER find me storing credit card numbers, my on-line banking user id/passwords, my stock trading site user id/password.
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"They exist because MS lets them exist."
MS lets Transmeta exist? Where'd you conjure up that kind of bizarre logic?
Eh?
Go back and read the posts. I said that Dell and Gateway exist because MS lets them exist. I also gave an example (involving Compaq) on just how threatening MS can be to an OEM.
I never said Transmetta exists b/c MS lets them exist.
But it is a whole different matter if you are talking hardware.
Not really. If you do something that MS' doesn't like and they draw a bead on your head, they will take you out one way or another. Take the case I pointed out earlier which illustrates my point.
Back in the late 90s MS threatened to pull Compaq's Win95 license because they shipped with Netscape on the desktop.
Compaq promptly ditched Netscape and installed IE.
If MS really wanted to take out Logitech, they could give away keyboards to all the OEM's so they would bundle them with every system. If they didn't bundle, then they don't get to participate in the 'MS Advertising Credit System' or some such racket.
Far fetched? Maybe not. After all MS spent many, many millions of dollars developing IE and then gave it away. Why not give away keyboards and mice to all the OEMs?
Oh man, look at this history of Quicken. Microsoft tried damn hard to kill Quicken. Damn hard. In fact, they were going to just give and buy out Quicken, but the DOJ blocked the buyout.
Yup, in MS' zest to kill Netscape they let Quicken have an icon on the Active Desktop. They also got Quicken to force the installation of IE along side Quicken.
Do they want to kill them or do they like them?
If they really wanted to kill Quicken, they would bundle Money-Lite with the OS and if they really wanted to kill Quicken, they wouldn't have given them a spot on the Active Desktop years ago.
I think they like Quicken
But, if MS cuts them off they are dead.
They exist because MS lets them exist.
If I'm not mistaken in the late 90s MS threatened to pull Compaq's Win95 license because they included Netscape on the desktop.
Compaq promptly shit in their pants, pulled Netscape and replaced it with IE.
When MS eventually decides to go with Intel's low-power processor Transmetta will die.
Yeah, but the list of carnage that MS leaves in its wake pretty long.
If they don't like you, they eat you. Plain and simple.
The only resin Quicken exists is b/c MS lets them exist. Don't you think they would just bundle Money with the OS if they wanted to stomp out Quicken?
If you think MS plays nice-nice for the benefit of the other company, then think again.
PS - On top of that, I think MS now owns Viso.
Me either.
Blech.
Why does everyone pretend they need MS?
If your business model needs MS, then you're already done.
Dance with the Devil and you'll get burned.
Seems the new Office 11 will only run on XP and W2K SP3.
Get the scoop from ZeeDee Net....
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-963777.html
I mean, it was just a matter of time....
Well farkity, fark, fark.
b ob
http://cgi.fark.com/cgi/fark/users.pl?login=micro
That is all I have. I'm done now, no kittens killed.
Yes, I have one article posted.
Could Inflation threaten the EverQuest economy?
A funny read on the BBC.
I'm sure some people take this stuff waaaayyyy to seriously.
http://www.wld.com/conbus/weal/wprodlb2.htm
In fact, I would guess that MS bugware has caused more damage, in dollars, that many natural disasters.
Not to mention other man made disasters.
Yeah, yeah, blame the system administrators for not pactching their 24/7 mission critical servers every 2 weeks when a patch is released.
Yeah, yeah, blame Grandma for opening that one attachment that spwews a virus across the net.
Why isn't MS held liable for their products?
This is totally nuts.
In presenting Microsoft's trustworthy computing initiative, Mundie defended the company's reluctance to follow through and accept legal responsibility for the security of its products. "If we took that responsibility, say for a big contract at Airbus, I would have to take out a giant insurance policy from Lloyds or another insurance broker, and pay a giant invoice," said Mundie. "The product would then cost not 50 euros, but 50 million."
Maybe we should hold the liable?
I want to know how long it will take before it gets hacked??
No doubt.
How do they expect people to react?
I will just push P2P netwoks into the next phase....
Sounds more like Netscape 4.X's roaming access.
I used to be able to go to any Netscape 4.X system, point it to my web server server and have it pull down my bookmarks, mail filters, cookies, mail server configurations, and a few other things (like digital certs).
That is the only reason I would like a single-sign on.
You'll get no more personal information from me than I want you to have. Personally, I could care less if you get my zdnet/slashdot uesr id and password. BFD.
But, you'll NEVER find me storing credit card numbers, my on-line banking user id/passwords, my stock trading site user id/password.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Microbob
Ha! Funny you say that, I just ran across an old pile of VIC-20 tapes the other day. I just laughed....
Wow, you too!
Now answer my question:
Why not?
Microbob
I think they should always put them in public domain.
Why not?
uckily, the film is planned for DVD and video release in the second half of 2002.
RTFA!!
Can it be ordered on DVD?
Anyone got an address and price?
You took the words right out of my mouth.
We make a secure Operating System
- Microsoft
Don't forget the Chicken Pesto Pizza. Yum, yum!