I would agree that the proofs themselves are not origional, however, the commentary and the manner in which the proofs and theorems are presented could possibly be copyrighted. While the note taker can copy down the notes for fair personal use, I could certainly see if I posted my exact copy of Rudin (Junior) to the net, McGraw Hill would be on my tail in a second. This is even more true if I did not properly attribute my source. Most profs I have had, do attribute sources - usually verbally ( "This is straight from Rudin", "I am taking this from Stewart, but changing the x to an xi for clairity..." ). I have never seen someone write attributions on their notes - perhaps in this case, the buyers to ask that the notes be properly attributed. My whole argument is that copyright law does become fuzzy in this area. It is unclear on which side it falls - on a case to case basis.
( For the record - I have handed in proofs almost straight from rudin, for home work assignments, with proper referals to the source, and never had a problem. Got the damn things right, too )
The claims so far, here on/., are that the student own the notes that they take. However, it is my experience that many people in math and physics write down word for word what the prof writes on the board. Some even use the exact same formating and annotation. Are these notes the property of the student? I beleive not. If word for word copies were permisable, I could copy out the latest best seller and publish on the web! I think the publisher and author would come after me fairly quickly.
A few years ago, I walked into Bay-Bloor Radio in Toronto and asked the first sales man if they had any stereo components that had RS232 ports on them. ( This was before USB ). I got the most blank look I have ever seen. Since then I have discovered that some component systems do have some kind comunications port ( Main amp thingy to cd player/tape deck ) on the back ( I^2C maybe??). I always wanted to hack my computer into one, but I have never owned one, and probably never will. Has anyone here played around with the stuff? The other option is of course to buy/make a IR transmitter to hook up to the serial port on the back of the old computer and cheat.
... reliable sources from inside the white house have leaked information the the government will soon be easing export regulations on encription. Specifically rot13 will now be able to be exported to Canada. Our sources tell us that this easing is to promote the internet in lesser developed countries.
-- If it ain't the whole horse - it ain't worth nothing.
This is not so much a comment about the truth to global warming - but rather a comment on the slashdot readers and the public in general.
One the one hand people are critizing the attempt to make a valid model on the fact that any model is highly non-linear, chaotic, and hence a small perturbation on the initial parameters will result in a larger non-linear effect as time increases.
Then we all turn around and claim that global warming ( a potential increase in the average temperature of the earth's atmosphere ) will result in the average temperature of place X increasing ( like Canada ).
The more potential outcome is that the additional energy will result in the climate changing unexpected ways. The winters may get colder in some places. Miami might get snow. There might be an increase in hurricanes. The tornato belt might move north. The ice caps might just melt. Perhaps the summers will be warmer. Perhaps this will have the bizzare effect ( as predicted by some models ) of throwing the planet into a permanent ice age. The grape growing season in France might be shorter - or longer. Global weather patterns are very complex. And all we have to go on is a pile of collected data.
Why are gui programers so fixated on dialog boxes? For example, almost all browsers rudely interupt what I am doing by poping a dialog box up about not finding something. Do they think I would not notice if they page was replaced by a nice message? ( Perhaps ie does this. I've only used it once. ) Most one responce error conditions could result in a little red error message on the message bar. Only fatal and vital questions should be put in dialog boxes.
TeXnically TeX is more a page layout language than a mark-up language - I would say that it is closer to postscript that to html on the global diagram of things. LaTeX, on the other hand, is a mark-up language ( with some formating options ). I think that everyone would agree that mark-up in the purest form is more productive. A title is a title after all, not 14pt bold text, centered horizontally, with a 28 pt whitespace above and below.
It was the one that came with the origional post. I just followed a link on the page for the html formated version of the journal article. My university has an electronic subscription to that journal - any computer on campus or coming through the uni's dial-up can access it. I guess they recognize us by the sub-net or something.
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Here ya go: http://www.techarts.com/woodcomputers/ Hope ya don't get no termites!
Or- horrors of horrors- your university, inorder to save money has an electronic subscription to the Journal, and uou can read the entire article on the web, such as I just did.
When will everyone understand that there will be no 100% secure, uncopyable music format? You can throw the best mathematicians in the world at the problem, and still people will be able to copy the music. One can make it tough as possible - waiting to decoding the stuff in licensed top secret speakers for example - but inorder to hear it, the music has to be decoded, at which time it can be copied. Is this too complicated for the industry to understand? They will not be able to apply their old business model to the new world. When will the day be, that they sit down and figure that out?
( Unless they come up with a technology to charge me everytime I hear some tune in my head... that would be scary. )
This has probably been said a thousand time here on slashdot in the past 5 minutes, but anyways - First consider a soft product - such as software, movies, music - basically any product that has an up-front cost, but little production cost, also often very easily pirated. This is not cars or washing machines, whose price includes parts, labour, risk, transportation and storage costs. The lowest price one ( perhaps crazy individual) would price a car at is at a level to recoup the cost of production and such. Market forces dictate the profit level one adds to the base figure. However, with soft-products, the base price is basically zero. One prices the soft-product at a level to maximize revenue. Hopefully you recoup development costs and make a profit. This of course is in no way guarantee this happening. If one prices the product too low it sells well, but one does not recoup cost. Too high and nobody purchase the thing, and they probably end up pirating it.
Now given that typical markets for soft products have a fairly large demographic, one will have some purchsing the product, and others pirating it. Some of those pirates you do not want, some are irrelevant - they would never purchase the product anyway, and others, well you want them pirating your product. The first group includes the types who pirate, impersonate you and sell. The consumer is ripped off by these guys and nobody wins ( except the pirates ). The consumer thinks they are getting a genuine you product, which may be of shoddy quality, tarnishing your company, and you get no money! The second group are the script kiddies trading your cray complier tools just because they can - they are never going to use your product, and they are never going to buy it. The third group is the group that supports the shareware industry- people who can not afford you product, but someday will. Say student X pirates a copy of Y, which X can not afford, or has no real use at the time, and playing with Y learning the interface and so forth. A few years later X gets a job where prouct Y has some relance - X buys Y because X has learnt Y and not P, Q or R. Of course each group will be of different size and importance depending on the soft-product. The final group is of course the mp3.com/shareware/test drive group of life. So my point? If you hae a company you should only really care about group one - they are the types eating _your_ dinner.
I will bet your hardware that all of the stuff they gave this guy will end up in his kids hands. Why? You think he will take the time to learn the new programs? No! Of course not. I have seen it again and again. Once had to get a Lawyer up to an isp. He had spanking new machine - used word star out of a dos-box. Worked at an web design firm - the accountant ran his old dos accounting program from dos - it would not print from under windows. Work here at a math department in a university - you can tell down to the year which faculty member was highered. They still use the programs that were newly installed and shown to them by the sys-admin at the time they came. ( Support is a nightmare - they have everything from dos through nt, and linux on the novell network ). These people do not want to take the time and effort to learn new technology as it becomes available. If your tool works use it.
Ban encription! Ban encription! No more Pay TV! No more E-Commerce! No more Digital Signatures! No more Shareware! No more Digital Money! No more Cell Phones! No more Passwords! No more Puzzel Books! No more Criptic Misspelt Slashdot Posts!
Me thinks nobody would even dare!
(Too bad the founding fathers ( & Mothers ) did not have the forethought to put free right to encription into the constitution )
Back in the "good" ol' days of DOS, that boot loader trying to pass itself off as an operating system, any application that needed to do something had to do it itself. Want to talk to the modem? Include code to do it. Want a spell checker? Thow that in. What ever you need, throw it in. And the users learnt that everything should be integrated into one application. Hence, every application must now contain an integrated spell checker ( how 'bout it Mr. Taco? ), a drawing program, a program development envrionment, a file manager... or people get confused... Try explaining the unix theory of small compatible programs, do one job well, to the average person on the street, and see what happens. Retraining a person in computer usage is nearly impossible.
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Here is something interesting on printing & linux off of the Corel job site... seems they are look'n for a print'n geek. ps. Any good - non listed - geek jobs available in ottawa??
I would agree that the proofs themselves are not origional, however, the commentary and the manner in which the proofs and theorems are presented could possibly be copyrighted. While the note taker can copy down the notes for fair personal use, I could certainly see if I posted my exact copy of Rudin (Junior) to the net, McGraw Hill would be on my tail in a second. This is even more true if I did not properly attribute my source. Most profs I have had, do attribute sources - usually verbally ( "This is straight from Rudin", "I am taking this from Stewart, but changing the x to an xi for clairity..." ). I have never seen someone write attributions on their notes - perhaps in this case, the buyers to ask that the notes be properly attributed.
My whole argument is that copyright law does become fuzzy in this area. It is unclear on which side it falls - on a case to case basis.
( For the record - I have handed in proofs almost straight from rudin, for home work assignments, with proper referals to the source, and never had a problem. Got the damn things right, too )
The claims so far, here on /., are that the student own the notes that they take. However, it is my experience that many people in math and physics write down word for word what the prof writes on the board. Some even use the exact same formating and annotation. Are these notes the property of the student? I beleive not. If word for word copies were permisable, I could copy out the latest best seller and publish on the web! I think the publisher and author would come after me fairly quickly.
A few years ago, I walked into Bay-Bloor Radio in Toronto and asked the first sales man if they had any stereo components that had RS232 ports on them. ( This was before USB ). I got the most blank look I have ever seen. Since then I have discovered that some component systems do have some kind comunications port ( Main amp thingy to cd player/tape deck ) on the back ( I^2C maybe??). I always wanted to hack my computer into one, but I have never owned one, and probably never will. Has anyone here played around with the stuff? The other option is of course to buy/make a IR transmitter to hook up to the serial port on the back of the old computer and cheat.
Don't you actually mean $\frac{\partial^2}{\partial\phi^2}\Psi(\phi)+m^2\P si(\phi)=0$ ? Unless, of course, you previouly said \def\del\partial.
/. - I want to post math.
Hey - Mr. Taco! We need a TeX processor on this
\nabla\Delta
Aibo?
Half dozen?
Pack?
I guess one would call that a Beowolf cluster.
I saw an ad for a MS cordless phone the ohter day. Interfaced with the computer in some way... perhaps like Barney?
... reliable sources from inside the white house have leaked information the the government will soon be easing export regulations on encription. Specifically rot13 will now be able to be exported to Canada. Our sources tell us that this easing is to promote the internet in lesser developed countries.
-- If it ain't the whole horse - it ain't worth nothing.
This is not so much a comment about the truth to global warming - but rather a comment on the slashdot readers and the public in general.
One the one hand people are critizing the attempt to make a valid model on the fact that any model is highly non-linear, chaotic, and hence a small perturbation on the initial parameters will result in a larger non-linear effect as time increases.
Then we all turn around and claim that global warming ( a potential increase in the average temperature of the earth's atmosphere ) will result in the average temperature of place X increasing ( like Canada ).
The more potential outcome is that the additional energy will result in the climate changing unexpected ways. The winters may get colder in some places. Miami might get snow. There might be an increase in hurricanes. The tornato belt might move north. The ice caps might just melt. Perhaps the summers will be warmer. Perhaps this will have the bizzare effect ( as predicted by some models ) of throwing the planet into a permanent ice age. The grape growing season in France might be shorter - or longer. Global weather patterns are very complex. And all we have to go on is a pile of collected data.
Why are gui programers so fixated on dialog boxes? For example, almost all browsers rudely interupt what I am doing by poping a dialog box up about not finding something. Do they think I would not notice if they page was replaced by a nice message? ( Perhaps ie does this. I've only used it once. ) Most one responce error conditions could result in a little red error message on the message bar. Only fatal and vital questions should be put in dialog boxes.
TeXnically TeX is more a page layout language than a mark-up language - I would say that it is closer to postscript that to html on the global diagram of things. LaTeX, on the other hand, is a mark-up language ( with some formating options ). I think that everyone would agree that mark-up in the purest form is more productive. A title is a title after all, not 14pt bold text, centered horizontally, with a 28 pt whitespace above and below.
It was the one that came with the origional post. I just followed a link on the page for the html formated version of the journal article. My university has an electronic subscription to that journal - any computer on campus or coming through the uni's dial-up can access it. I guess they recognize us by the sub-net or something.
Here ya go:
http://www.techarts.com/woodcomputers/
Hope ya don't get no termites!
Or- horrors of horrors- your university, inorder to save money has an electronic subscription to the Journal, and uou can read the entire article on the web, such as I just did.
Cute pictures.
When will everyone understand that there will be no 100% secure, uncopyable music format? You can throw the best mathematicians in the world at the problem, and still people will be able to copy the music. One can make it tough as possible - waiting to decoding the stuff in licensed top secret speakers for example - but inorder to hear it, the music has to be decoded, at which time it can be copied. Is this too complicated for the industry to understand? They will not be able to apply their old business model to the new world. When will the day be, that they sit down and figure that out?
( Unless they come up with a technology to charge me everytime I hear some tune in my head... that would be scary. )
This has probably been said a thousand time here on slashdot in the past 5 minutes, but anyways -
First consider a soft product - such as software, movies, music - basically any product that has an up-front cost, but little production cost, also often very easily pirated. This is not cars or washing machines, whose price includes parts, labour, risk, transportation and storage costs. The lowest price one ( perhaps crazy individual) would price a car at is at a level to recoup the cost of production and such. Market forces dictate the profit level one adds to the base figure. However, with soft-products, the base price is basically zero. One prices the soft-product at a level to maximize revenue. Hopefully you recoup development costs and make a profit. This of course is in no way guarantee this happening. If one prices the product too low it sells well, but one does not recoup cost. Too high and nobody purchase the thing, and they probably end up pirating it.
Now given that typical markets for soft products have a fairly large demographic, one will have some purchsing the product, and others pirating it. Some of those pirates you do not want, some are irrelevant - they would never purchase the product anyway, and others, well you want them pirating your product. The first group includes the types who pirate, impersonate you and sell. The consumer is ripped off by these guys and nobody wins ( except the pirates ). The consumer thinks they are getting a genuine you product, which may be of shoddy quality, tarnishing your company, and you get no money! The second group are the script kiddies trading your cray complier tools just because they can - they are never going to use your product, and they are never going to buy it. The third group is the group that supports the shareware industry- people who can not afford you product, but someday will. Say student X pirates a copy of Y, which X can not afford, or has no real use at the time, and playing with Y learning the interface and so forth. A few years later X gets a job where prouct Y has some relance - X buys Y because X has learnt Y and not P, Q or R. Of course each group will be of different size and importance depending on the soft-product. The final group is of course the mp3.com/shareware/test drive group of life. So my point? If you hae a company you should only really care about group one - they are the types eating _your_ dinner.
I will bet your hardware that all of the stuff they gave this guy will end up in his kids hands. Why? You think he will take the time to learn the new programs? No! Of course not. I have seen it again and again. Once had to get a Lawyer up to an isp. He had spanking new machine - used word star out of a dos-box. Worked at an web design firm - the accountant ran his old dos accounting program from dos - it would not print from under windows. Work here at a math department in a university - you can tell down to the year which faculty member was highered. They still use the programs that were newly installed and shown to them by the sys-admin at the time they came. ( Support is a nightmare - they have everything from dos through nt, and linux on the novell network ).
These people do not want to take the time and effort to learn new technology as it becomes available. If your tool works use it.
Ban encription! Ban encription!
No more Pay TV!
No more E-Commerce!
No more Digital Signatures!
No more Shareware!
No more Digital Money!
No more Cell Phones!
No more Passwords!
No more Puzzel Books!
No more Criptic Misspelt Slashdot Posts!
Me thinks nobody would even dare!
(Too bad the founding fathers ( & Mothers ) did not have the forethought to put free right to encription into the constitution )
Back in the "good" ol' days of DOS, that boot loader trying to pass itself off as an operating system, any application that needed to do something had to do it itself. Want to talk to the modem? Include code to do it. Want a spell checker? Thow that in. What ever you need, throw it in. And the users learnt that everything should be integrated into one application. Hence,
every application must now contain an integrated
spell checker ( how 'bout it Mr. Taco? ), a drawing program, a program development envrionment, a file manager... or people get confused...
Try explaining the unix theory of small compatible programs, do one job well, to the average person on the street, and see what happens. Retraining a person in computer usage is nearly impossible.
Nay! I say Kevin Smith! hehehe...