Haven't met anyone under the age of 30 lately, have you?
Hmm, just guessing from your grasp of standard English, correct spelling and grammar, and your low UID that you perhaps came of age in the 60's...? If so, you know, glass houses.:-)
But don't mind me, I came of age in the worthless 70's.
I didn't ask your opinion about what you thought about Zimmerman. Your statement about the hand being for a shield was factually wrong, according to witness reports.
So what? Stories develop, facts become clearer. Oh, you want a brownie point? Excellent, (poof!) here's your brownie point.
Here are your words again: "I hope the Blacks burn Florida to the ground"
The fact that you wrote that is the bigger problem here for you. Try working on that. I'm done exploring your attitudes toward race. I don't like to get that stuff on me.
Oh, now I get what you're talking about. You think it's unfair if the white guy goes to prison for killing the white guy, when the other white guy didn't go to prison for killing a black guy.
Honestly, yours was the first reference I saw to race, and it never even entered my mind. It didn't matter to me what race either of the guys in this new case was.
But, jumping on me is just barking up the wrong tree. Nothing I posted compared the two cases, so stop wasting your time - you have no idea what I think of the Zimmerman case.
Central to your character is the idea that you are smarter, more perceptive, and more rational than most (all?) people. It's just not the case. I am at least as well educated as you in history and logic. The difference between us is that it's *your* attitudes that are twisted.
You're just trolling, and attempt to change the discussion by attacking when your points are invalidated.
Did you find a mirror and start arguing with it?!?
You chose to have children, so you are using up far more of the world's resources than I ever could. Bravo sir, well played.
I know you'll say, "but the human race needs children to survive!" That's true, but the world doesn't need YOUR kids. If you cared so much about the people in the developing countries, you wouldn't have children of your own.
I have a more positive net impact on the world than you. I likely pay more taxes than you earn in income, I give more to charities than you, and while I help fund local schools I don't consume any of those resources with children.
Your quantity argument is bogus. You remind me of the George Carlin joke; "Everyone who drives slower than you is an idiot! Everyone who drives faster than you is a MAAANIAC!" Well, I'm not calling you an idiot; enjoy your lifestyle. But curb your judgments; you don't have the moral high ground to judge me.
1 - He shouldn't have had a gun in a movie theater.
2 - He should have retreated instead of returning to the same seat to press his "rights", which he did because he knew he could draw and fire.
The shooter was in the wrong, and he's going to rot in jail for murder. It's telling that you reference "the Blacks". That says a lot about you.
Central to your character is the idea that you are smarter, more perceptive, and more rational than most (all?) people. It's just not the case. I am at least as well educated as you in history and logic. The difference between us is that it's *your* attitudes that are twisted.
You're just trolling, and attempt to change the discussion by attacking when your points are invalidated.
I'm not an idealist, but this look into your soul you provide with your terrible assertions makes me glad I'm not you.
The juice is gone from this thread, so I won't respond on this one; go ahead and prepare to troll me again on another thread. And why don't you un-foe and re-foe me? It might make you feel a little better.
The original complaint was that the IRS delayed the applications, such that the groups could not participate in the political debate leading to the 2012 US presidential election. The groups in fact were not able to participate.
This garbage is getting tiresome. NO ONE prevented those groups from participating, not even a little bit. Their COMPLAINT (which is false) was that they couldn't fund their activities on MY dime as bogus tax exempt groups.
I'm tired of this wah, wah, wah, when not only is the actual complaint a lie, the lie is compounded by posts like yours which claim something even farther from the truth.
You're just arguing over quantity. You look like a violent waster to people who have less in the world. You're kidding yourself if you think you're some paragon of virtue compared to me. You didn't answer; have you ever ridden on a jet on vacation?
I am building a permanent durable structure that will see use for decades, and one or more subsequent owners will enjoy. I have a lot of capital because my labor is valuable; in addition to charitable donations, should I use it on permanent, durable items, or perhaps on fast cars? Or on flying around the world to interesting places? Wouldn't those be less worthy in your eyes? My money does no one any good in the market; maybe you think my additional wealth should be taken from me? Please, tell me in detail your prescription for how I should live my life to meet your demanding expectations.
I love your over the top analogy; putting an addition on my house requires the same response required of someone who witnesses a rape? And you claim you didn't intend to insult me with that? Pot, meet kettle. You just lost what slim credibility you had.
I've read ALL of Heinlein's novels and stories, probably before you were old enough to read.
I assert that your use of that quote is WILDLY inappropriate.
And now you've said something even dumber; "The point is that the overall politeness of society goes up every time you shoot somebody who acts like an asshole in public..."
Okay, and maybe blue fairies were involved. This speculation is piled too high - the assumption that her hand on his chest was to restrain him, and the *pure* speculation based on that slim reed that he had a history of altercations, is just silly.
I'll revisit this when a reasonable body of facts are available.
One thing I recently learned was that controlled breathing while studying really improves your focus and definitely improved my retention. A guy showed me how to breath in and out with slow breaths 5 secs on the inhale and exhale first through the mouth and then after i got the timing down, the nose.
From what I have heard, it is the same type of technique used by snipers.
Unfortunately, this is the same technique used in advanced Tantric sex techniques. Not what you want to deal with in the middle of a proctored test.
Hey, that's really interesting, thanks. Here's a post about that practice. It does seem stupid. I haven't done much shooting, but I can imagine if the Glock I fired had a heavy pull for every shot it would affect my accuracy.
You have lost all sense of proportion (if you ever possessed it). An unarmed man was murdered for texting by another man who escalated a confrontation with a gun. If the old coot didn't have a gun, he probably would have done what he SHOULD have done, which is take a different seat when he came back to the theater after telling on the texter for texting during the PREVIEWS.
No gun, problem solved. A man goes home to his daughter, and an old coot doesn't go to jail for murder.
So what if the texter would have gotten off "scott free" for a social faux pas? The old man was absolutely in the wrong. You can either learn that lesson, or perhaps find your own life ruined when you react like a crazy person. Good luck with that.
...the wife was injured through her hand by the shot as she had her hand on the husbands chest attempting to restrain him, so it's likely that he's done this sort of flying off the handle before...
Well, this really demonstrates your point of view. I think if I were she, and some old crazy dude pulled a gun on my husband, my last act for my spouse would be to put my hand up... to shield him.
That's kind of heart-breaking. Your assumption makes my blood run a little cooler, though.
The dead guys daughter would probably disagree with you if she could understand what just happened. In 20 years time she just might come hunt you down for your callousness.
Just to clarify, you mean "come hunt you down" in order to upbraid him, castigate him, possibly remonstrate with him about his boorish sentiments, expressed 20 years ago.
You didn't mean she might come to kill him, for being a dick in an online forum, right? Because that would be like shooting someone in a movie theater for texting during the previews.
Haven't met anyone under the age of 30 lately, have you?
Hmm, just guessing from your grasp of standard English, correct spelling and grammar, and your low UID that you perhaps came of age in the 60's...? If so, you know, glass houses. :-)
But don't mind me, I came of age in the worthless 70's.
I didn't ask your opinion about what you thought about Zimmerman. Your statement about the hand being for a shield was factually wrong, according to witness reports.
So what? Stories develop, facts become clearer. Oh, you want a brownie point? Excellent, (poof!) here's your brownie point.
Here are your words again: "I hope the Blacks burn Florida to the ground"
The fact that you wrote that is the bigger problem here for you. Try working on that. I'm done exploring your attitudes toward race. I don't like to get that stuff on me.
I'm not interested in the bullshit you're so hot about, which was not the point of my post.
Go peddle that nonsense somewhere else. I'll even give you the last (stupid) word.
And now you've said something even dumber;
But still not as dumb as telling me I think it's polite to shoot people.
Lol, whut? I QUOTED YOUR POST. Here, these are your words, again:
"The point is that the overall politeness of society goes up every time you shoot somebody who acts like an asshole in public..."
You are a fucking retard.
Oh, now I get what you're talking about. You think it's unfair if the white guy goes to prison for killing the white guy, when the other white guy didn't go to prison for killing a black guy.
Honestly, yours was the first reference I saw to race, and it never even entered my mind. It didn't matter to me what race either of the guys in this new case was.
But, jumping on me is just barking up the wrong tree. Nothing I posted compared the two cases, so stop wasting your time - you have no idea what I think of the Zimmerman case.
Central to your character is the idea that you are smarter, more perceptive, and more rational than most (all?) people. It's just not the case. I am at least as well educated as you in history and logic. The difference between us is that it's *your* attitudes that are twisted. You're just trolling, and attempt to change the discussion by attacking when your points are invalidated.
Did you find a mirror and start arguing with it?!?
Did you lose your meds?
Holy cow, are you stupid. I wasn't saying we don't need cops. You entirely missed the point about armed ex-cops in a movie theater.
But what I posted about NY cops is true. Bystanders get shot by cops. Often.
Guess truth doesn't matter to you.
nou
You're apparently not equipped to understand my point, but that's fine. I don't look down on the mentally handicapped.
I hope you have someone to hold your hair back while you puke.
You chose to have children, so you are using up far more of the world's resources than I ever could. Bravo sir, well played.
I know you'll say, "but the human race needs children to survive!" That's true, but the world doesn't need YOUR kids. If you cared so much about the people in the developing countries, you wouldn't have children of your own.
I have a more positive net impact on the world than you. I likely pay more taxes than you earn in income, I give more to charities than you, and while I help fund local schools I don't consume any of those resources with children.
Your quantity argument is bogus. You remind me of the George Carlin joke; "Everyone who drives slower than you is an idiot! Everyone who drives faster than you is a MAAANIAC!" Well, I'm not calling you an idiot; enjoy your lifestyle. But curb your judgments; you don't have the moral high ground to judge me.
1 - He shouldn't have had a gun in a movie theater.
2 - He should have retreated instead of returning to the same seat to press his "rights", which he did because he knew he could draw and fire.
The shooter was in the wrong, and he's going to rot in jail for murder. It's telling that you reference "the Blacks". That says a lot about you.
Central to your character is the idea that you are smarter, more perceptive, and more rational than most (all?) people. It's just not the case. I am at least as well educated as you in history and logic. The difference between us is that it's *your* attitudes that are twisted.
You're just trolling, and attempt to change the discussion by attacking when your points are invalidated.
I'm not an idealist, but this look into your soul you provide with your terrible assertions makes me glad I'm not you.
The juice is gone from this thread, so I won't respond on this one; go ahead and prepare to troll me again on another thread. And why don't you un-foe and re-foe me? It might make you feel a little better.
If I had mod points I'd forego posting just to mod this up. :-)
The original complaint was that the IRS delayed the applications, such that the groups could not participate in the political debate leading to the 2012 US presidential election. The groups in fact were not able to participate.
This garbage is getting tiresome. NO ONE prevented those groups from participating, not even a little bit. Their COMPLAINT (which is false) was that they couldn't fund their activities on MY dime as bogus tax exempt groups.
I'm tired of this wah, wah, wah, when not only is the actual complaint a lie, the lie is compounded by posts like yours which claim something even farther from the truth.
You're just arguing over quantity. You look like a violent waster to people who have less in the world. You're kidding yourself if you think you're some paragon of virtue compared to me. You didn't answer; have you ever ridden on a jet on vacation?
I am building a permanent durable structure that will see use for decades, and one or more subsequent owners will enjoy. I have a lot of capital because my labor is valuable; in addition to charitable donations, should I use it on permanent, durable items, or perhaps on fast cars? Or on flying around the world to interesting places? Wouldn't those be less worthy in your eyes? My money does no one any good in the market; maybe you think my additional wealth should be taken from me? Please, tell me in detail your prescription for how I should live my life to meet your demanding expectations.
I love your over the top analogy; putting an addition on my house requires the same response required of someone who witnesses a rape? And you claim you didn't intend to insult me with that? Pot, meet kettle. You just lost what slim credibility you had.
I've read ALL of Heinlein's novels and stories, probably before you were old enough to read.
I assert that your use of that quote is WILDLY inappropriate.
And now you've said something even dumber; "The point is that the overall politeness of society goes up every time you shoot somebody who acts like an asshole in public..."
You missed his point entirely.
Okay, and maybe blue fairies were involved. This speculation is piled too high - the assumption that her hand on his chest was to restrain him, and the *pure* speculation based on that slim reed that he had a history of altercations, is just silly.
I'll revisit this when a reasonable body of facts are available.
One thing I recently learned was that controlled breathing while studying really improves your focus and definitely improved my retention. A guy showed me how to breath in and out with slow breaths 5 secs on the inhale and exhale first through the mouth and then after i got the timing down, the nose.
From what I have heard, it is the same type of technique used by snipers.
Unfortunately, this is the same technique used in advanced Tantric sex techniques. Not what you want to deal with in the middle of a proctored test.
Laws against murder, vigilantes murdering people for texting, that sounds about right.
In your head, it's all shorts and sparks, isn't it?
Hey, that's really interesting, thanks. Here's a post about that practice. It does seem stupid. I haven't done much shooting, but I can imagine if the Glock I fired had a heavy pull for every shot it would affect my accuracy.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/08/foghorn/nypds-choice-of-firearm-may-have-contributed-to-the-terrible-shooting/
Yes, that's exactly why this situation occurred. Without disincentives to carrying guns and murdering people, gun users will keep murdering.
In the U.S., around 10,000 per year. And you think this is okay.
You have lost all sense of proportion (if you ever possessed it). An unarmed man was murdered for texting by another man who escalated a confrontation with a gun. If the old coot didn't have a gun, he probably would have done what he SHOULD have done, which is take a different seat when he came back to the theater after telling on the texter for texting during the PREVIEWS.
No gun, problem solved. A man goes home to his daughter, and an old coot doesn't go to jail for murder.
So what if the texter would have gotten off "scott free" for a social faux pas? The old man was absolutely in the wrong. You can either learn that lesson, or perhaps find your own life ruined when you react like a crazy person. Good luck with that.
...the wife was injured through her hand by the shot as she had her hand on the husbands chest attempting to restrain him, so it's likely that he's done this sort of flying off the handle before...
Well, this really demonstrates your point of view. I think if I were she, and some old crazy dude pulled a gun on my husband, my last act for my spouse would be to put my hand up... to shield him.
That's kind of heart-breaking. Your assumption makes my blood run a little cooler, though.
The dead guys daughter would probably disagree with you if she could understand what just happened. In 20 years time she just might come hunt you down for your callousness.
Just to clarify, you mean "come hunt you down" in order to upbraid him, castigate him, possibly remonstrate with him about his boorish sentiments, expressed 20 years ago.
You didn't mean she might come to kill him, for being a dick in an online forum, right? Because that would be like shooting someone in a movie theater for texting during the previews.
It was a retired cop.
And I do wonder why people would carry a gun when going to the movies.
Aurora, Colorado. If there had been one armed ex cop in the theater, probably less than 12 people would have died.
Oh, that would have been sweet. Let's posit *3* armed ex cops in the theater, ranging from 55 to 72 years old.
The slaughter from mistaken identity of the shooter and the crossfire would have been IMMENSE. Probably many more people dead.
If you think cops are good shots, you're not paying attention. Here, read about these sharpshooters: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/09/robert-farago/new-york-city-cops-shoot-innocent-bystanders/
And if you go there, don't miss this link in the story to another incident: "9 out of 16 Rounds Fired by New York City Cops May Have Hit Civilians".