I think the point is to keep folks outraged that such things happen. If we ignore the problem, it doesn't go away - it gets much worse.
And incidentally, I'd be curious as to why you think:
A) That homeschooling is "withdrawing him from society" and
B) Why withdrawing him from society would be a bad thing anyway.;)
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When was the last time you ran unknown programs (as root) on your machine, then manually copied them (and ran as root) on another machine as well?
Every day. I have not personally looked at the source for the vast majority of the daemons I use on all my linux boxes. --
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Re:This could be bad news for manned space travel.
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(BTW, it was NOT Christopher Colombus that discovered America, but Leif Erikson. It was later surveyed by Amerigo Vespucci, leading to the naming of this land, "America," probably due to a clerical error.)
BTW, it was NOT Lief Erikson that "discovered" America, but the peoples that became "Native Americans".
Explorers need not be conquerors.
Of course not, but in some form or another they seem to always have been. Everybody here seems to think that "it is man's natural tendency to explore". I disagree.
It is man's natural tendency to try to take over and control everything it finds.
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If you are going to take this extremely relativistic attitude towards "criminality" than you should follow it to its logical conclusion and become an anarchist
*chuckle* What makes you think that I am not? 8)
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If you are a criminal, you deserved to be punished. If you are not a criminal, then you deserve to be left alone.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with this. Who are you to dictate to me what constitutes being a criminal?
Is a speeder a criminal?
If I run a red light on a deserted road at 2am, am I a criminal?
The next argument I often hear is "Well, no. You're not a criminal just for breaking the letter of the law. But there IS a common sense issue. Some things are just accepted as wrong because it's common sense."
I have to disagree with this as well. Different people have different morals and different values.
Example:
Two women visiting NYC from (I believe it was either Holland or Norway) northern Europe were shopping downtown with their children. They went into a store and left their children (in baby carriages) outside the store.
The result? They were arrested for child abandonment of course.
The part of the story that a lot of folks from the US don't understand is that this practice is fairly common in a lot of Europe. From their perspective, why would one need to bring the child in?
They come from a different culture - having different morals (and experiences) is a crime?
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Give a man a match, you keep him warm for an evening.
The problem with Yucca mountain is much more than political - it's evironmental and unsustainable.
The recent findings at Yucca mountain is that as recently as 20,000 years ago, water ran through the area exactly where they want to put the nuclear waste (when I say "the area", I mean underground). What this means is that likely as not, it will happen again (could be 2000 years, could be 200000 years) and the water would become contaminated... and spread throughout the western part of the US.
Granted, there are those that think that's not such a bad thing. *jk*
What it comes down to is that this "option" is just as harmful, if not more, than what nuclear energy is trying to replace.
My $.02
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My apologies for being off topic. No offense taken if this gets modded down.
<RANT>
It really amazes me that so many people feel the need to go off when a mistake is made on/. More to the point I so often hear how/. is the epitome of bad journalism.
My question to the folks who believe this:
Why exactly is it that you continue to read it then?
</RANT>
I now return you to your regularly scheduled goat sex troll...
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Am I the only one who this this has been blown out of proportion?
Yeah, I understand. You don't want to receive email from them. They messed up from a marketing perspective and made "no" the default, so now they do something mildly slimy.
At least they're being honest about it.
In the immortal words of Eric Cartman, "What's the big fuckin deal, bitch?"
First off, it's not like you can't go back in and turn it off. This takes what, all of 60 seconds? Secondly, they're giving you two weeks to do it before they start sending you stuff.
It just seems kind of overreactionary to me.
Just my $.02:)
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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:31:05 +0200
From: Ury Segal
To: egon@tuininga.org
Subject: Aduva Manager Privecy issue
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Hi!
I am Ury Segal from Aduva.
I just wanted to say, in advance to the answers to your question you'll
probably get tomorrow ( It's 22:27 here ), that your privacy is kept, and
Aduva Manager does not send the inventory of your computer to our
servers. All we have is your IP ( and what you asked to download -
but that's just any FTP site can do. )
We are making the sources ready for GPL, and then you'll be able
to check my claim, but till then - you can either sniff the packets and
see for yourself, or just believe me:-)
(The stream is SSLed, but it's sniffable if you are
on one end )
--
Ury Segal
Aduva INC
Phone: +972-3-7534300
Fax: +972-3-7534343
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Aduva provides at present free of charge access to the ADUVA Server and to the
ADUVA KNOWLEDGE BASE. Aduva may charge in the future for access to the ADUVA
Server and/or the ADUVA KNOWLEDGE BASE. The information and/or any other data
received from the ADUVA Server is the sole property of Aduva and is protected
by copyright and other rights.
I wonder if they have a privacy policy... --
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As much as I wish I didn't have to, I can conceed the point. It saddens me that we live in such an oppressive society. My own personal belief is that George Orwell was an optimist.
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Like good hackers, lets embrace a solution that works for BOTH sides...
I guess I don't understand how this "works for both sides". To me, this seems like something that works a little for the "control the morals of everybody else" side, and not at all for those that would see information be completely free...
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As a webhoster, I personally condemn them for not accepting.porn/.xxx. It would make filtering SO easy, SO universal. I would in half a heartbeat be happy to not allow porn sites on my system unless they ended in.porn/.xxx. What would consistitute porn? I would look for an existing policy, or write my own.
Forgive my disagreement, but from the beginning I have not cared for the.porn/.xxx idea. There's too much subjectivity to it. The thing that folks have to keep in mind is this: The US is not the only group of people that view the internet!
What we seem to not realize is that there are other folks with different perspectives out there. Not everybody finds a person posing nude (even in suggestive positions) to be the evil thing that we apparently seem to think porn is. Other folks can actually look at these things and understand, "Hey - sex is natural."
In the immortal;) words of Eric Cartman, "What's the big fucking deal bitch?"
My problem with the.porn/.xxx TLD is that it gives the US too much power to enforce it's morals and beliefs onto other peoples. Like we don't already have that power as it is.
I keep hoping for a time when we can realize that not everybody sees things the same way we do and that their opinions are equally as valid as our own.
--
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5) Criminalize all scanning, including pings and probes. [snip]
and #5 is perhaps a necessary evil.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree greatly. I would be very interested to hear your view on what constitutes "scanning" in that case. What if I accidentally point my browser at the wrong server? I meant to put in a different URL, but ended up pointing at the wrong place. Am I now guilty of "scanning" that machine for a webserver?
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I can't speak for anybody else, but for me it's the nostalgia factor.
I'd love to find a version of Archon (old EA for C64 game) that could run under Linux. Hell, I'd even settle for a version that runs on 'bloze if I had to.
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Slashdot Mirror
Having to move your hand between the keyboard and the mouse frequently is extremely inefficient.
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I think the point is to keep folks outraged that such things happen. If we ignore the problem, it doesn't go away - it gets much worse.
And incidentally, I'd be curious as to why you think: ;)
A) That homeschooling is "withdrawing him from society" and
B) Why withdrawing him from society would be a bad thing anyway.
--
Give a man a match, you keep him warm for an evening.
At this point I won't be converting. In order to access a Name.Space server, you have to download an app to use it.
What platforms is it available for you might ask?
Windows and Mac only.
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When was the last time you ran unknown programs (as root) on your machine, then manually copied them (and ran as root) on another machine as well?
Every day. I have not personally looked at the source for the vast majority of the daemons I use on all my linux boxes.
--
Give a man a match, you keep him warm for an evening.
(BTW, it was NOT Christopher Colombus that discovered America, but Leif Erikson. It was later surveyed by Amerigo Vespucci, leading to the naming of this land, "America," probably due to a clerical error.)
BTW, it was NOT Lief Erikson that "discovered" America, but the peoples that became "Native Americans".
Explorers need not be conquerors.
Of course not, but in some form or another they seem to always have been. Everybody here seems to think that "it is man's natural tendency to explore". I disagree.
It is man's natural tendency to try to take over and control everything it finds.
--
Give a man a match, you keep him warm for an evening.
*chuckle* What makes you think that I am not? 8)
--
Give a man a match, you keep him warm for an evening.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with this. Who are you to dictate to me what constitutes being a criminal?
Is a speeder a criminal?
If I run a red light on a deserted road at 2am, am I a criminal?
The next argument I often hear is "Well, no. You're not a criminal just for breaking the letter of the law. But there IS a common sense issue. Some things are just accepted as wrong because it's common sense."
I have to disagree with this as well. Different people have different morals and different values.
Example:
Two women visiting NYC from (I believe it was either Holland or Norway) northern Europe were shopping downtown with their children. They went into a store and left their children (in baby carriages) outside the store.
The result? They were arrested for child abandonment of course.
The part of the story that a lot of folks from the US don't understand is that this practice is fairly common in a lot of Europe. From their perspective, why would one need to bring the child in?
They come from a different culture - having different morals (and experiences) is a crime?
--
Give a man a match, you keep him warm for an evening.
Warning: IANASM (science major)
The problem with Yucca mountain is much more than political - it's evironmental and unsustainable. The recent findings at Yucca mountain is that as recently as 20,000 years ago, water ran through the area exactly where they want to put the nuclear waste (when I say "the area", I mean underground). What this means is that likely as not, it will happen again (could be 2000 years, could be 200000 years) and the water would become contaminated ... and spread throughout the western part of the US.
Granted, there are those that think that's not such a bad thing. *jk*
What it comes down to is that this "option" is just as harmful, if not more, than what nuclear energy is trying to replace.
My $.02
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Give a man a match, you keep him warm for an evening.
<RANT> /. More to the point I so often hear how /. is the epitome of bad journalism.
It really amazes me that so many people feel the need to go off when a mistake is made on
My question to the folks who believe this:
Why exactly is it that you continue to read it then?
</RANT>
I now return you to your regularly scheduled goat sex troll...
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Set nls to french. You'll either learn it or die of frustration. 8)
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Yeah, I understand. You don't want to receive email from them. They messed up from a marketing perspective and made "no" the default, so now they do something mildly slimy.
At least they're being honest about it.
In the immortal words of Eric Cartman, "What's the big fuckin deal, bitch?"
First off, it's not like you can't go back in and turn it off. This takes what, all of 60 seconds? Secondly, they're giving you two weeks to do it before they start sending you stuff.
It just seems kind of overreactionary to me.
Just my $.02 :)
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Received the following:
:-)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:31:05 +0200
From: Ury Segal
To: egon@tuininga.org
Subject: Aduva Manager Privecy issue
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Hi!
I am Ury Segal from Aduva.
I just wanted to say, in advance to the answers to your question you'll
probably get tomorrow ( It's 22:27 here ), that your privacy is kept, and
Aduva Manager does not send the inventory of your computer to our
servers. All we have is your IP ( and what you asked to download -
but that's just any FTP site can do. )
We are making the sources ready for GPL, and then you'll be able
to check my claim, but till then - you can either sniff the packets and
see for yourself, or just believe me
(The stream is SSLed, but it's sniffable if you are
on one end )
--
Ury Segal
Aduva INC
Phone: +972-3-7534300
Fax: +972-3-7534343
--
Give a man a match, you keep him warm for an evening.
Did anybody see the licensing on this? Read on...
12. Access to the ADUVA Server
Aduva provides at present free of charge access to the ADUVA Server and to the
ADUVA KNOWLEDGE BASE. Aduva may charge in the future for access to the ADUVA
Server and/or the ADUVA KNOWLEDGE BASE. The information and/or any other data
received from the ADUVA Server is the sole property of Aduva and is protected
by copyright and other rights.
I wonder if they have a privacy policy...
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- Multimedia capabilities of Be
- Stability and application base of linux
"And there was much rejoicing..."--
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Methinks perhaps Hemos has been playing just a wee bit too much Alpha Centauri...
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This is about as new as when the english page was posted on July 2nd, 2000.
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Are we forgetting just how much biological regulation a mouse brain has to maintain? It's not just all "calculations"....
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I guess I don't understand how this "works for both sides". To me, this seems like something that works a little for the "control the morals of everybody else" side, and not at all for those that would see information be completely free...
--
Give a man a match, you keep him warm for an evening.
Forgive my disagreement, but from the beginning I have not cared for the .porn/.xxx idea. There's too much subjectivity to it. The thing that folks have to keep in mind is this: The US is not the only group of people that view the internet!
What we seem to not realize is that there are other folks with different perspectives out there. Not everybody finds a person posing nude (even in suggestive positions) to be the evil thing that we apparently seem to think porn is. Other folks can actually look at these things and understand, "Hey - sex is natural."
In the immortal ;) words of Eric Cartman, "What's the big fucking deal bitch?"
My problem with the .porn/.xxx TLD is that it gives the US too much power to enforce it's morals and beliefs onto other peoples. Like we don't already have that power as it is.
I keep hoping for a time when we can realize that not everybody sees things the same way we do and that their opinions are equally as valid as our own.
--
Give a man a match, you keep him warm for an evening.
5) Criminalize all scanning, including pings and probes.
[snip]
and #5 is perhaps a necessary evil.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree greatly. I would be very interested to hear your view on what constitutes "scanning" in that case. What if I accidentally point my browser at the wrong server? I meant to put in a different URL, but ended up pointing at the wrong place. Am I now guilty of "scanning" that machine for a webserver?
--
Give a man a match, you keep him warm for an evening.
It's in our nature to want to diminish that which we don't like.
In this case, it appears to simply be a way to insult them. My $.02.
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Give a man a match, you keep him warm for an evening.
Here's a question for you folks:
Is it that the protocol for IRC is inherently instable?
Or is it just the implementations?
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I can't speak for anybody else, but for me it's the nostalgia factor.
I'd love to find a version of Archon (old EA for C64 game) that could run under Linux. Hell, I'd even settle for a version that runs on 'bloze if I had to.
--
Give a man a match, you keep him warm for an evening.