They're the ones that OWN most, if not all the rights to Broadcast 2000. They can do whatever in the hell they want with the code- the GPL only dictates what you do if it's NOT your code and you distribute it or portions thereof.
There is no "official" format for MPEG-4 yet...
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So, by definition, how would it replace what's already out there in the form of stream formats.
Oh, by the way, DivX is no longer a hacked up implementation of Microsoft's codec- it's its OWN codec derived from the reference implementation from the MPEG comitee.
Re:The SSSCA is going to be passed - NOT.
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In the same sense of "criminals" such as...
John Hancock
Button Gwinnett
Lyman Hall
Geo. Walton
Wm. Hooper
Joseph Hewes
John Penn
Edward Rutledge
Thos. Heyward, Junr.
Thomas Lynch, Junr.
Arthur Middleton
Samuel Chase
Wm. Paca
Thos. Stone
Charles Carroll of Carrollton
George Wythe
Richard Henry Lee
Th. Jefferson
Benja. Harrison
Thos. Nelson, Jr.
Francis Lightfoot Lee
Carter Braxton
Robt. Morris
Benjamin Rush
Benja. Franklin
John Morton
Geo. Clymer
Jas. Smith
Geo. Taylor
James Wilson
Geo. Ross
Caesar Rodney
Geo. Read
Tho. Mckean
Wm. Floyd
Phil. Livingston
Frans. Lewis
Lewis Morris
Richd. Stockton
Jno. Witherspoon
Fras. Hopkinson
John Hart
Abra. Clark
Josiah Bartlett
Wm. Whipple
Saml. Adams
John Adams
Robt. Treat Paine
Elbridge Gerry
Step. Hopkins
William Ellery
Roger Sherman
Samuel Huntington
Wm. Williams
Oliver Wolcott
Matthew Thornton
Those with a keen sense of history will note that these names are the ones that match the signatures on the Declaration of Independance.
That's right. They were "criminals" by the very act that declared our sovereignty from England.
Sometimes laws and rule are dead wrong on so many counts that it is the people's responsibility to remind those that govern that they are as such.
Just because it's a "law" doesn't make it right or that it should even be allowed.
It started out as a hacked up version of the Microsoft MPEG-4 codec coupled to the MS media formats.
Intellectual property is property?
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You've got an unauthorized copy of that last movie that you're carrying around with you all the time.
Let me get the ECT rig out and we'll fix that little bit of "piracy" right away- won't hurt...much...and you'll not forget too much of the other stuff.
Strictly speaking, if I give you a copy of "intellectual" property, the potential for profit might have been taken from the owner, but unlike physical property, I've really taken nothing from the owner. The owner can sell the "property" to the next person. Try that with something like fresh fruit. NO, "intellectual" property is nothing more than a legal fiction, like several others, that appear to have at least partially outlived their usefulness as they're not being used in the manners that they were intended.
I could almost buy the tracking "migratory patterns" argument- but they get that without needing any of the other spyware. Hell, the server tracks that as usage log information. The other reasons are just non-valid (Checking competitor prices? Go hit their site. Shoplifters? Don't make me laugh...).
There is NO good reason for the spyware. If the hit info isn't giving them things they like, maybe there is a reason for it. Could be they're doing something wrong- or maybe they bet on the wrong thing...
Seems like we're being forced into being extremists by other extremists- I don't think the position posited by your sig is a tenable one at this point, especially in light of your comments.
Doing an end-run around the Manager popping the CD into a player problem is easy, as someone pointed out earlier- bring a laptop with a good CD or state that you are using the CD playback on your DVD player and insist that he test it on several of those. In most cases, the manager will pull the stuff in a heartbeat if it's not proplerly and prominently (No fine print will go here on that) labeled "Only Audio Player Use" because they don't want to mess with the hassles of customer returns on the product- it eats into his store's margins severely. They will then be bargain binned and/or returned (Usually the latter) at that point.
The problem with the having to waste part of a day to screw this scheme up is not a problem unless you actually LIKE them telling you how and when you're going to listen to the copy of the music that you've bought. It's only a problem if you don't care what they do to you. Standing up against BS of this kind is never convienent. Standing up to things like the this crap, DMCA and UCITA has it's price- if you don't value your freedoms enough to be put out for a little bit, then you don't deserve them.
Considering that the consumer appliance vendors are now selling quite a few home entertainment system solutions that have ONLY a DVD player for playing movies OR music. Those CD's are going to rebound real quick because of that oversight.
All they need to do is be "burnt" once (and there's a LOT of people out there now with PC's using them as CD players (at work and home)) and they'll look for the warning label- just like I and many others do for Aspartame.
They'll see a drop of something like 10-30%, possibly more, probably real quick on their sales if they did that; and that's why they're not even putting it on the packaging in the first place.
...mind you, I don't entirely agree with it, but he has a valid one just the same. He wants a consistent (or mostly so) app look and feel not unlike what people see with Windows, MacOS, AmigaOS, etc. With the perponderance of app and gui frameworks out there (Heck, the Fltk bunch are coming up with their own full-fledged app framework...) that the look and feel is completely confused. For most, this is not a problem, but to use this analogy- what would you think Joe Sixpack would do if a car's transmission was a stick-shift and you used a joystick for steering, acceleration, and braking? It'd work (and probably better than what we've already got), but it'd sure as hell confuse him, wouldn't it? Well with all the toolkits, etc. we have in the Unix world, we're presenting the same sort of conflicting interfaces to the user.
There's loads of things that could withstand the abuse of a 10kf/p impact at least once. Biohazard lost because it wasn't built heavily enough and it sheared off the armor skirts at the hinge points.
The impact stops the hammer wheel long enough to buy you purchase to attack the inner part of the bot with a vengeance. There's some design ideas my friend and I ran through while discussing the final match in detail this weekend. Right now, we're in the design/shopping for a sponsor stage (There's no way we could afford the gear we'd need for this beast we came up with...:-)
It's straight up MacroVision like you'd find on a video tape from MPAA's member companies. So what if it means it's never turned on? It's only supposed to be turned on by a DVD player anyhow to prevent it from getting in the way of other non DVD uses of the composite/SVHS signal. Since we, as the general Linux using public, can't get DVD players "officially", I can't see why they'd be making that an issue- never mind the fact that purchasing a MacroVision scrubber is currently legit and undoes it anyway.
Re:Open Source with NDA- yes, it's possible...
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It only sort-of worked, didn't have DMA support, and needed their documentation (which they weren't giving out) to fix things right. This is not the same driver that they're shipping right now, but was their "open source" driver they gave to us prior to it. People are slowly fixing it as I write this, but it's taking 10 or more times more effort to get things there.
Re:Open Source with NDA- yes, it's possible...
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...just twisted.
You can release the source- and in many situations, you can fix it, so long as the bugs aren't with the interactions with the device. In that case, you need to enter into an NDA with the company to get the data. So long as they're willing to allow people to be involved as they show interest, then there's little problem- otherwise you end up with the joke that NVidia pulled with the Utah-GLX driver support.
It's doable, just nowhere near as useful as releasing everything to let anybody work on it.
Re:this is what happens- really now...
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Did you read the XFree86 mailing list item?
Did you know what precipitated the "rumor"? Apparently Trident wouldn't allow the source code exception to the NDA- and XFree86 doesn't work that way (and unless they were paying me handsomely, I definitely wouldn't either...).
If they won't allow open source as part of the deal, then it's not quite a rumor, now is it?
Embedded kiosk, set-top, etc. applications are where they're really trying to sell to- if they've not shot themselves in the head, it's definitely in the foot with an Mach-10 machine pistol on full auto...
It won't do Flash.
It won't do RealPlayer.
It won't do Quicktime.
The right x86 configuration will- and I don't mean a Windows based box. A PPC might fill the bill, but I can't see MacOS 9 or 10 sitting in a decent sized flash.
They've been doing ad trailers in the movie theatres for months for it. I don't know if that's going to work for them, but it's an interesting premise. Honestly speaking, they need to revisit the whole thing and get back to their roots- cheaply.
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They're the ones that OWN most, if not all the rights to Broadcast 2000. They can do whatever in the hell they want with the code- the GPL only dictates what you do if it's NOT your code and you distribute it or portions thereof.
So, by definition, how would it replace what's already out there in the form of stream formats.
Oh, by the way, DivX is no longer a hacked up implementation of Microsoft's codec- it's its OWN codec derived from the reference implementation from the MPEG comitee.
In the same sense of "criminals" such as...
John Hancock
Button Gwinnett
Lyman Hall
Geo. Walton
Wm. Hooper
Joseph Hewes
John Penn
Edward Rutledge
Thos. Heyward, Junr.
Thomas Lynch, Junr.
Arthur Middleton
Samuel Chase
Wm. Paca
Thos. Stone
Charles Carroll of Carrollton
George Wythe
Richard Henry Lee
Th. Jefferson
Benja. Harrison
Thos. Nelson, Jr.
Francis Lightfoot Lee
Carter Braxton
Robt. Morris
Benjamin Rush
Benja. Franklin
John Morton
Geo. Clymer
Jas. Smith
Geo. Taylor
James Wilson
Geo. Ross
Caesar Rodney
Geo. Read
Tho. Mckean
Wm. Floyd
Phil. Livingston
Frans. Lewis
Lewis Morris
Richd. Stockton
Jno. Witherspoon
Fras. Hopkinson
John Hart
Abra. Clark
Josiah Bartlett
Wm. Whipple
Saml. Adams
John Adams
Robt. Treat Paine
Elbridge Gerry
Step. Hopkins
William Ellery
Roger Sherman
Samuel Huntington
Wm. Williams
Oliver Wolcott
Matthew Thornton
Those with a keen sense of history will note that these names are the ones that match the signatures on the Declaration of Independance.
That's right. They were "criminals" by the very act that declared our sovereignty from England.
Sometimes laws and rule are dead wrong on so many counts that it is the people's responsibility to remind those that govern that they are as such.
Just because it's a "law" doesn't make it right or that it should even be allowed.
It started out as a hacked up version of the Microsoft MPEG-4 codec coupled to the MS media formats.
You've got an unauthorized copy of that last movie that you're carrying around with you all the time.
Let me get the ECT rig out and we'll fix that little bit of "piracy" right away- won't hurt...much...and you'll not forget too much of the other stuff.
Strictly speaking, if I give you a copy of "intellectual" property, the potential for profit might have been taken from the owner, but unlike physical property, I've really taken nothing from the owner. The owner can sell the "property" to the next person. Try that with something like fresh fruit. NO, "intellectual" property is nothing more than a legal fiction, like several others, that appear to have at least partially outlived their usefulness as they're not being used in the manners that they were intended.
Sorry, not feeling very humorous today or yesterday- however, I DO see the irony in it now...
I could almost buy the tracking "migratory patterns" argument- but they get that without needing any of the other spyware. Hell, the server tracks that as usage log information. The other reasons are just non-valid (Checking competitor prices? Go hit their site. Shoplifters? Don't make me laugh...).
There is NO good reason for the spyware. If the hit info isn't giving them things they like, maybe there is a reason for it. Could be they're doing something wrong- or maybe they bet on the wrong thing...
All extemists should be shot.
Seems like we're being forced into being extremists by other extremists- I don't think the position posited by your sig is a tenable one at this point, especially in light of your comments.
Perhaps it's time to make a new sig, hm?
This new gem is the latest in a slow degredation of this country for the sake of the corporations.
Anyone that's paying attention probably doesn't want to be here or is doing his level best to resist/change things for the better.
Cost of the gas: $0.50 (I'm being liberal here...)
Cost of the CD: $17.00 (Avg. Price)
Cost to repeat: $0.50 (x2,3,4,5...)
Value of annoying the hell out of the retailer and the media people: Priceless
Doing an end-run around the Manager popping the CD into a player problem is easy, as someone pointed out earlier- bring a laptop with a good CD or state that you are using the CD playback on your DVD player and insist that he test it on several of those. In most cases, the manager will pull the stuff in a heartbeat if it's not proplerly and prominently (No fine print will go here on that) labeled "Only Audio Player Use" because they don't want to mess with the hassles of customer returns on the product- it eats into his store's margins severely. They will then be bargain binned and/or returned (Usually the latter) at that point.
The problem with the having to waste part of a day to screw this scheme up is not a problem unless you actually LIKE them telling you how and when you're going to listen to the copy of the music that you've bought. It's only a problem if you don't care what they do to you. Standing up against BS of this kind is never convienent. Standing up to things like the this crap, DMCA and UCITA has it's price- if you don't value your freedoms enough to be put out for a little bit, then you don't deserve them.
Considering that the consumer appliance vendors are now selling quite a few home entertainment system solutions that have ONLY a DVD player for playing movies OR music. Those CD's are going to rebound real quick because of that oversight.
All they need to do is be "burnt" once (and there's a LOT of people out there now with PC's using them as CD players (at work and home)) and they'll look for the warning label- just like I and many others do for Aspartame.
They'll see a drop of something like 10-30%, possibly more, probably real quick on their sales if they did that; and that's why they're not even putting it on the packaging in the first place.
I'm sure someone will be twisted enough to try that tack- and you're going to be sorry you mentioned it even in jest!
...mind you, I don't entirely agree with it, but he has a valid one just the same. He wants a consistent (or mostly so) app look and feel not unlike what people see with Windows, MacOS, AmigaOS, etc. With the perponderance of app and gui frameworks out there (Heck, the Fltk bunch are coming up with their own full-fledged app framework...) that the look and feel is completely confused. For most, this is not a problem, but to use this analogy- what would you think Joe Sixpack would do if a car's transmission was a stick-shift and you used a joystick for steering, acceleration, and braking? It'd work (and probably better than what we've already got), but it'd sure as hell confuse him, wouldn't it? Well with all the toolkits, etc. we have in the Unix world, we're presenting the same sort of conflicting interfaces to the user.
Something like that has to be tethered- otherwise it's against the rules.
Now lamelar armor plates that would shear off under SOW's assault but not under anything else, on the other hand...
There's loads of things that could withstand the abuse of a 10kf/p impact at least once. Biohazard lost because it wasn't built heavily enough and it sheared off the armor skirts at the hinge points.
:-)
The impact stops the hammer wheel long enough to buy you purchase to attack the inner part of the bot with a vengeance. There's some design ideas my friend and I ran through while discussing the final match in detail this weekend. Right now, we're in the design/shopping for a sponsor stage (There's no way we could afford the gear we'd need for this beast we came up with...
It's straight up MacroVision like you'd find on a video tape from MPAA's member companies. So what if it means it's never turned on? It's only supposed to be turned on by a DVD player anyhow to prevent it from getting in the way of other non DVD uses of the composite/SVHS signal. Since we, as the general Linux using public, can't get DVD players "officially", I can't see why they'd be making that an issue- never mind the fact that purchasing a MacroVision scrubber is currently legit and undoes it anyway.
It only sort-of worked, didn't have DMA support, and needed their documentation (which they weren't giving out) to fix things right. This is not the same driver that they're shipping right now, but was their "open source" driver they gave to us prior to it. People are slowly fixing it as I write this, but it's taking 10 or more times more effort to get things there.
...just twisted.
You can release the source- and in many situations, you can fix it, so long as the bugs aren't with the interactions with the device. In that case, you need to enter into an NDA with the company to get the data. So long as they're willing to allow people to be involved as they show interest, then there's little problem- otherwise you end up with the joke that NVidia pulled with the Utah-GLX driver support.
It's doable, just nowhere near as useful as releasing everything to let anybody work on it.
Did you read the XFree86 mailing list item?
Did you know what precipitated the "rumor"? Apparently Trident wouldn't allow the source code exception to the NDA- and XFree86 doesn't work that way (and unless they were paying me handsomely, I definitely wouldn't either...).
If they won't allow open source as part of the deal, then it's not quite a rumor, now is it?
Embedded kiosk, set-top, etc. applications are where they're really trying to sell to- if they've not shot themselves in the head, it's definitely in the foot with an Mach-10 machine pistol on full auto...
It won't do Flash.
It won't do RealPlayer.
It won't do Quicktime.
The right x86 configuration will- and I don't mean a Windows based box. A PPC might fill the bill, but I can't see MacOS 9 or 10 sitting in a decent sized flash.
Which IS covered by the Constitution- no matter wat California says, they can't usurp that little thing called the Bill Of Rights.
They've been doing ad trailers in the movie theatres for months for it. I don't know if that's going to work for them, but it's an interesting premise. Honestly speaking, they need to revisit the whole thing and get back to their roots- cheaply.