Long standing member of the Linux audio community here, with almost 20 years experience of recording under all 3 major platforms.
Please end the Mac fanboism and answer this poor guys question!
He's asking about LINUX BASED notation software and synths! I'm sure he's well aware of Macs, REAPER and ProTools etc - not that they do what he's after anyway!
Musescore and Rosegarden have already been mentioned for Linux notation software but there is also http://laborejo.org/ , http://denemo.org/ and http://www.frescobaldi.org/ . Laborejo seems to be the most popular in the Linux world these days. I'm not sure which is the best as I don't do notation very often and I've not tried them all. The last few are basically lilypond GUIs.
As for synths, the best (and most powerful) commercial synths for Linux is Loomer's Aspect. Its unbelievably CPU efficient too. As for open source, there is TAL Noizemaker (my fave), zynaddsubfx/Yoshimi, Amsynth and Triceratops are all worth checking out.
Another good free synth (but not open source yet) for Linux is Tunefish - thats my 3rd fave after Noizemaker and Aspect.
The best Linux Audio distros are KXStudio and AVLinux. As for DAWs (which he wasn't asking about, but just for my 2p) Ardour has lots of fans and many people use REAPER under Linux as its officially supported running under wine but my fave Linux DAW is qtractor. Its the fastest and most lightweight modern DAW. It lacks some whizz bang features of the popular commercial DAWs but you may find it does everything you need it to.
If I think 'Rockstar devs' Todd is the first person who comes to mind. Todd designed the first commercial graphics tablet and had it released by Apple, was an early (and flagship) user of the Video Toaster and released arguably the first interactive album which he helped code for Phillips CDi.
Do we have any other notable examples of people successful as both devs and rock stars? There have to be more than just Todd.
However, Eric Phelps, author of Vatican Assassins, would insist that this is not the 'Rosicrucian mask' of the Baconian's but that the Spear shaker's true identity was that of Edward de Vere, Seventeenth Earl of Oxford.
Whatever the real identity of these folks I'll bet my ballsack they're all Widows sons.
I was just about to download FreeIPA and try it under VirtualBox but had the good sense to read the FAQ first where it states:
IPA Policy
1.
Q: Can I specify different policies for different groups?
A: No. The current release of IPA supports one policy for all.
The PRD for v2 does not explicitly list this requirement. There is, however, some requirement to improve password policies but not to that scope. This will be added to a future feature set./end quote
Hence it seems FOSS advocates are waiting for IPA v2 or samba 4.x until they have a good chance of really booting MS and proprietary solutions out of the server room at least.
It would seem ZenWorks is the only Linux solution for setting group policies, yet it doesn't list XP Pro SP3 as a supported platform. Does it work fine with SP3 and is nobody working on a FOSS equivalent?
Thanks to everyone who has posted ideas, suggestions and comments so far- I've just finished reading them all now- much appreciated and very interesting stuff.
A few points that I should've mentioned in the original question are that (as most of you correctly assumed being a UK school) nearly all clients are Win XP SP3 with the odd exceptions of a few Vista, Linux and OSX machines. I say migrating to one server but of course that would have a back-up machine- its just that at the moment we have this crazy configuration of two physically separate networks/domains with their own DCs, switches, ISPs etc- one for students one for staff. I inherited one helluva crazy mess, indeed! What I mean is that all this is going to be amalgamated into one physical network and one domain, not one server.
We don't use Exchange so AD/Exchange inter-op isn't a requirement or an issue.
I was aware of eDirectory but didn't mention that in the question because its not FOSS- however this has been recommended much more than Sun's solutions and Apache hasn't even had a look in. I don't want to rule Novell out as a possibility as it may just be better a better long term solution than sticking with AD/2003. It would seem FDS/FreeIPA is the only serious FOSS solution available for this right now
Of course, AD *should* logically be the easiest one to stick with/ 'migrate' to but that doesn't necessarily make it the best choice. I think we'd be more than willing to hire a consultant to help transitions to an alternative if there were numerous long term benefits.
I'm going to have a play with FreeIPA on a small network of test machines or under VirtualBox and see how that goes first I think.
MS would need to first (L)GPL at least XP/2000, Vista, VB/C#/.NET and Office to the fullest extent possible before the free software community will even listen to a word that they or any of their infiltrators may have to say. Until then we'll carry on using Linux, xorg, gcc, OOo etc. and tools that protect our freedom to compute as we like.
There are two main apps FOSS video converters need to be aware of:
winff - great gui for FFMPEG, makes batch conversion simple. Soon to appear in Debian/Ubuntu repos. vlc also includes a more basic video conversion wizard gui, but can't compete with winff. win and lin versions available.
DeVeDe- Already mentioned here I see. Makes DVD and SVCD/VCD/*CD creation under linux simple. Again, another cross platform FOSS app.
Both these apps have SMP support, but only as good as their respective ffmpeg and mencoder backends.
The new QT4 version of KDEnlive is a total re-write of the app and is said to be SMP friendly but has yet to have a proper release.
Wine 1.0 gets released, MS admit defeat in standards war and support ODF and now Linux drivers are included with the latest and greatest ATI card along with open specs! Just how long have Linux fans been talking about this happening for it on/. - since slasdots inception, I believe./. golden age alert! Next thing you know you'll be playing DNF on this thing;)
I got a new laptop recently and I picked one with ATI gfx purely because they have opened their specs. compiz and blender run great but unfortunately not at the same time, but its nice to know the drivers will only get better. Go AMD/ATi!
I've been a Linux user since '96 and I start a new job doing IT support at a school in NW England on Monday so this is fantastic news for me as I have zero respect for V**** and so wasn't looking forward to being forced into using Big BrOS where Linux would've done the job better, faster and for free.
2007 was such a good year for Linux - 2008 will be even better!
Like most everyone in this thread, I agree this list is null and void because there is not even a mention of the most important computer ever, the C64.
Its so sad that the Zaurus c3x00 models have never been released outside Japan because this is the best 'PC' yet. I'm very lucky indeed to have one in the UK.The Zaurus was the first PDA to have a VGA screen, internal hard disc and USB host was a first too I think. Other PDA's are toys in comparison. I can run Firefox, amule, mplayer, gaim, MAME, zpsx (a Zaurus Playstation emulator), apache, gnumeric, abiword... try doing all that on your WinCE'y toy! It is the new benchmark to beat for portable (future) computing. The cxxxx Zaurii are the coolest computers since the Amiga!
The list also forgot Sharp's Amiga killer, the x68000. It was as powerful as most arcades from the early/mid 90's with arcade perfect conversions of stuff like Super Street Fighter II. It wasn't until the 486 came out that PCs caught up with the power of this machine which came out in the mid 80's!
Anybody who thinks PDA's are useless, antiquated toys has obviously never used a cxx00/6000 model Zaurus running pdaxrom or Openzaurus. I struggle to think of something I could do on my desktop PC that I couldn't do on my c3000. In fact, the only tasks I would avoid doing on the Z are big compiles (not that I've ever needed to compile a program for my Z thanks to the package managers and a large selection of free software) and video conversion or any other heavy-duty graphics work. It plays divx and xvid great though and the clamshell Zaurii are my fave computer since the almighty Amiga.
The only thing I've seen that can compete with the latest Zaurii is the HTC universal, but Linux (openembedded) is still some way off being stable, even useable, on the HTC and the hardware build quality/ feel is not as good as the Z so I'm not tempted to switch.
Hopefully there will be a company out there that realises there is a market for a good power PDA, something like the HTC uni but with
* ARM Cortex-A8 CPU, 1ghz
* Intel 2700 graphics accelerator (or better) w/ VGA out
* 128MB or more RAM
* USB2 OTG
* At least 8GB integrated microdrive (or 4GB flash drive maybe)
* Openembedded linux as standard w/ GPE, Abiword, Gnumeric, minimo etc. pre-installed
I was overjoyed to hear that Ahead have started supporting Linux, now we just need the big products from Adobe and Macromedia to be ported then 90% of non-gaming windows users could switch totally to Linux (the other 10% want Fruity Loops and Cool Edit!).
I checked out the demo version of nerolinux today but I was disappointed with its lacking (compared to the Windows version) feature set- primarily in the area of video support.
k3b does pretty much everything I want as far as burning is concerned and does it very well, so I was hoping nerolinux would enable me do that one thing that k3b doesn't yet- quickly and easily convert a divx/xvid/mpeg/quicktime or whatever to a video DVD or VCD. No such luck.
If they include a fast video transcoder and maybe even a DVD or VCD menu editor in the next release (I just hope there will be a next release....) and PREFERABLY split it off from the Windows bundle into an individual product then I would gladly fork out for it.
tRANSELEMENt were added to Furthurnet today! tE are quite easily one of the best contemporary British bands, but the press have only recently started to latch onto this. Their 'Live in Lincoln' album has been available to download off SunSITE's Jamz server for quite some time now, but now it's even easier to download/ get to hear my favorite new band live!
The 22/02/02 Lincoln gig was professionally recorded and sounds better than many commercial live albums. If you like guitar music you will not be disappointed- download it NOW!
tRANSELEMENt are the new champions of the British underground. As a live act they play heavy, melodic and unusual punk- some people call it psychedelic punk but it's anything but retro sounding. On record they do almost everything from electronica to hip hop to mock- operas but mash everything up in their inimitable way. Their first studio album is released this month and it has already received many rave reviews from the British music press.
You MUST download their 'Live in Lincoln' show from February of last year. It was professionally recorded and the sound quality is as good, if not better, than many commercial live albums. Many have claimed it to be one of THE must- have albums of 2002. There is a link to it on the tE MP3 page and you can also get it off Furthurnet.
In addition to this they've also just released their latest album online in MP3 format and last year they released a complete VCD for free too! At the moment the VCD is not available for download anywhere but if anyone out there has got some spare server space going then drop the band a line.
I heard AMD had a license to make PPC chips (despite the fact they haven't done so). Hence, the AMD based Macs may not be such a ridiculous suggestion- damn good one actually!
What ever happened to the ZIP drive SEGA promised? Was it ever released? If DCLinux had support for this it would be worthwhile using then.
Even better (but highly unlikely) would be to see someone hack together an IDE adapter for the DC that plugs into the modem/ broadband expansion bay thing. Well they've took things this far so why not all the way?
tRANSELEMENt- Beach Boys harmonies with Sonic Youth guitars, Kraftwerk beats and Faust weirdness! http://mp3.com/elementuk/
Sod it! At the end of the day, people should just listen to what they like and ignore all the trends, hype and even their friends opinions.
Anyway, if you do believe in 'looking cool' by beating all your mates to listening to band 'x' then I can highly recommend checking out tRANSELEMENt who dump on 99.9% of contemporary acts from a great height! Avante Garde? Check. Punk? Check. Techno? Check. Good pop? Check. Electronica? Check. Psyche..... the list goes on!
I bought LinuxPPC 2000 from your company when it was released and I was very disappointed by it, especially your technical support . I sent a number of e-mails to your support address regarding my problems, none of which got answered. I think its quite sad that, unlike the x86 distros who have to cater for an almost unlimited number of configurations, you can't get a distribution out that works properly on a standard iMac- which is surely one of the first things you should test it on!
So could anyone out there reading this tell me how to get X setup for greater depths than 8 bit under LinuxPPC 2000 (first release- don't know what Xfree- 3.something).
Also, whatever happened to IBMs POP boards?
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Long standing member of the Linux audio community here, with almost 20 years experience of recording under all 3 major platforms.
Please end the Mac fanboism and answer this poor guys question!
He's asking about LINUX BASED notation software and synths! I'm sure he's well aware of Macs, REAPER and ProTools etc - not that they do what he's after anyway!
Musescore and Rosegarden have already been mentioned for Linux notation software but there is also http://laborejo.org/ , http://denemo.org/ and http://www.frescobaldi.org/ . Laborejo seems to be the most popular in the Linux world these days. I'm not sure which is the best as I don't do notation very often and I've not tried them all. The last few are basically lilypond GUIs.
As for synths, the best (and most powerful) commercial synths for Linux is Loomer's Aspect. Its unbelievably CPU efficient too. As for open source, there is TAL Noizemaker (my fave), zynaddsubfx/Yoshimi, Amsynth and Triceratops are all worth checking out.
Another good free synth (but not open source yet) for Linux is Tunefish - thats my 3rd fave after Noizemaker and Aspect.
The best Linux Audio distros are KXStudio and AVLinux. As for DAWs (which he wasn't asking about, but just for my 2p) Ardour has lots of fans and many people use REAPER under Linux as its officially supported running under wine but my fave Linux DAW is qtractor. Its the fastest and most lightweight modern DAW. It lacks some whizz bang features of the popular commercial DAWs but you may find it does everything you need it to.
If I think 'Rockstar devs' Todd is the first person who comes to mind. Todd designed the first commercial graphics tablet and had it released by Apple, was an early (and flagship) user of the Video Toaster and released arguably the first interactive album which he helped code for Phillips CDi.
Do we have any other notable examples of people successful as both devs and rock stars? There have to be more than just Todd.
"His face is open and alive, with a rosy..."
Rosy eh?
However, Eric Phelps, author of Vatican Assassins, would insist that this is not the 'Rosicrucian mask' of the Baconian's but that the Spear shaker's true identity was that of Edward de Vere, Seventeenth Earl of Oxford.
Whatever the real identity of these folks I'll bet my ballsack they're all Widows sons.
I was just about to download FreeIPA and try it under VirtualBox but had the good sense to read the FAQ first where it states:
IPA Policy
1.
Q: Can I specify different policies for different groups?
A: No. The current release of IPA supports one policy for all.
The PRD for v2 does not explicitly list this requirement. There is, however, some requirement to improve password policies but not to that scope. This will be added to a future feature set. /end quote
Hence it seems FOSS advocates are waiting for IPA v2 or samba 4.x until they have a good chance of really booting MS and proprietary solutions out of the server room at least.
It would seem ZenWorks is the only Linux solution for setting group policies, yet it doesn't list XP Pro SP3 as a supported platform. Does it work fine with SP3 and is nobody working on a FOSS equivalent?
Thanks to everyone who has posted ideas, suggestions and comments so far- I've just finished reading them all now- much appreciated and very interesting stuff.
A few points that I should've mentioned in the original question are that (as most of you correctly assumed being a UK school) nearly all clients are Win XP SP3 with the odd exceptions of a few Vista, Linux and OSX machines. I say migrating to one server but of course that would have a back-up machine- its just that at the moment we have this crazy configuration of two physically separate networks/domains with their own DCs, switches, ISPs etc- one for students one for staff. I inherited one helluva crazy mess, indeed! What I mean is that all this is going to be amalgamated into one physical network and one domain, not one server.
We don't use Exchange so AD/Exchange inter-op isn't a requirement or an issue.
I was aware of eDirectory but didn't mention that in the question because its not FOSS- however this has been recommended much more than Sun's solutions and Apache hasn't even had a look in. I don't want to rule Novell out as a possibility as it may just be better a better long term solution than sticking with AD/2003. It would seem FDS/FreeIPA is the only serious FOSS solution available for this right now
Of course, AD *should* logically be the easiest one to stick with/ 'migrate' to but that doesn't necessarily make it the best choice. I think we'd be more than willing to hire a consultant to help transitions to an alternative if there were numerous long term benefits.
I'm going to have a play with FreeIPA on a small network of test machines or under VirtualBox and see how that goes first I think.
AND
A Canadian firm is producing their own version of the Freerunner/ Openmoko Linux smartphone called the W.E phone. I kid ye not!
When will the tech dick gags end?
Pandora poops on this wee willy from a great height. Pandora is coming out at same time but is a whole generation ahead in many ways.
100% classic, real-deal bonafide /. article this- can't resist commenting! :D
MS would need to first (L)GPL at least XP/2000, Vista, VB/C#/.NET and Office to the fullest extent possible before the free software community will even listen to a word that they or any of their infiltrators may have to say. Until then we'll carry on using Linux, xorg, gcc, OOo etc. and tools that protect our freedom to compute as we like.
Simple!
There are two main apps FOSS video converters need to be aware of:
winff - great gui for FFMPEG, makes batch conversion simple. Soon to appear in Debian/Ubuntu repos. vlc also includes a more basic video conversion wizard gui, but can't compete with winff. win and lin versions available.
DeVeDe- Already mentioned here I see. Makes DVD and SVCD/VCD/*CD creation under linux simple. Again, another cross platform FOSS app.
Both these apps have SMP support, but only as good as their respective ffmpeg and mencoder backends.
The new QT4 version of KDEnlive is a total re-write of the app and is said to be SMP friendly but has yet to have a proper release.
Wine 1.0 gets released, MS admit defeat in standards war and support ODF and now Linux drivers are included with the latest and greatest ATI card along with open specs! Just how long have Linux fans been talking about this happening for it on /. - since slasdots inception, I believe. /. golden age alert! Next thing you know you'll be playing DNF on this thing ;)
I got a new laptop recently and I picked one with ATI gfx purely because they have opened their specs. compiz and blender run great but unfortunately not at the same time, but its nice to know the drivers will only get better. Go AMD/ATi!
I've been a Linux user since '96 and I start a new job doing IT support at a school in NW England on Monday so this is fantastic news for me as I have zero respect for V**** and so wasn't looking forward to being forced into using Big BrOS where Linux would've done the job better, faster and for free.
2007 was such a good year for Linux - 2008 will be even better!
Like most everyone in this thread, I agree this list is null and void because there is not even a mention of the most important computer ever, the C64.
Its so sad that the Zaurus c3x00 models have never been released outside Japan because this is the best 'PC' yet. I'm very lucky indeed to have one in the UK.The Zaurus was the first PDA to have a VGA screen, internal hard disc and USB host was a first too I think. Other PDA's are toys in comparison. I can run Firefox, amule, mplayer, gaim, MAME, zpsx (a Zaurus Playstation emulator), apache, gnumeric, abiword... try doing all that on your WinCE'y toy! It is the new benchmark to beat for portable (future) computing. The cxxxx Zaurii are the coolest computers since the Amiga!
The list also forgot Sharp's Amiga killer, the x68000. It was as powerful as most arcades from the early/mid 90's with arcade perfect conversions of stuff like Super Street Fighter II. It wasn't until the 486 came out that PCs caught up with the power of this machine which came out in the mid 80's!
Anybody who thinks PDA's are useless, antiquated toys has obviously never used a cxx00/6000 model Zaurus running pdaxrom or Openzaurus. I struggle to think of something I could do on my desktop PC that I couldn't do on my c3000. In fact, the only tasks I would avoid doing on the Z are big compiles (not that I've ever needed to compile a program for my Z thanks to the package managers and a large selection of free software) and video conversion or any other heavy-duty graphics work. It plays divx and xvid great though and the clamshell Zaurii are my fave computer since the almighty Amiga.
:p
The only thing I've seen that can compete with the latest Zaurii is the HTC universal, but Linux (openembedded) is still some way off being stable, even useable, on the HTC and the hardware build quality/ feel is not as good as the Z so I'm not tempted to switch.
Hopefully there will be a company out there that realises there is a market for a good power PDA, something like the HTC uni but with
* ARM Cortex-A8 CPU, 1ghz
* Intel 2700 graphics accelerator (or better) w/ VGA out
* 128MB or more RAM
* USB2 OTG
* At least 8GB integrated microdrive (or 4GB flash drive maybe)
* Openembedded linux as standard w/ GPE, Abiword, Gnumeric, minimo etc. pre-installed
instead
I'd buy 5!
I was overjoyed to hear that Ahead have started supporting Linux, now we just need the big products from Adobe and Macromedia to be ported then 90% of non-gaming windows users could switch totally to Linux (the other 10% want Fruity Loops and Cool Edit!).
I checked out the demo version of nerolinux today but I was disappointed with its lacking (compared to the Windows version) feature set- primarily in the area of video support.
k3b does pretty much everything I want as far as burning is concerned and does it very well, so I was hoping nerolinux would enable me do that one thing that k3b doesn't yet- quickly and easily convert a divx/xvid/mpeg/quicktime or whatever to a video DVD or VCD. No such luck.
If they include a fast video transcoder and maybe even a DVD or VCD menu editor in the next release (I just hope there will be a next release....) and PREFERABLY split it off from the Windows bundle into an individual product then I would gladly fork out for it.
tRANSELEMENt were added to Furthurnet today! tE are quite easily one of the best contemporary British bands, but the press have only recently started to latch onto this. Their 'Live in Lincoln' album has been available to download off SunSITE's Jamz server for quite some time now, but now it's even easier to download/ get to hear my favorite new band live!
The 22/02/02 Lincoln gig was professionally recorded and sounds better than many commercial live albums. If you like guitar music you will not be disappointed- download it NOW!
dan
tRANSELEMENt are the new champions of the British underground. As a live act they play heavy, melodic and unusual punk- some people call it psychedelic punk but it's anything but retro sounding. On record they do almost everything from electronica to hip hop to mock- operas but mash everything up in their inimitable way. Their first studio album is released this month and it has already received many rave reviews from the British music press.
You MUST download their 'Live in Lincoln' show from February of last year. It was professionally recorded and the sound quality is as good, if not better, than many commercial live albums. Many have claimed it to be one of THE must- have albums of 2002. There is a link to it on the tE MP3 page and you can also get it off Furthurnet.
In addition to this they've also just released their latest album online in MP3 format and last year they released a complete VCD for free too! At the moment the VCD is not available for download anywhere but if anyone out there has got some spare server space going then drop the band a line.
dan
www.transelement.co.uk
I heard AMD had a license to make PPC chips (despite the fact they haven't done so). Hence, the AMD based Macs may not be such a ridiculous suggestion- damn good one actually!
Thank you! That was the link I wanted!
Where do I get one of those Y-cable HD power splitter cables from though?
What ever happened to the ZIP drive SEGA promised? Was it ever released? If DCLinux had support for this it would be worthwhile using then. Even better (but highly unlikely) would be to see someone hack together an IDE adapter for the DC that plugs into the modem/ broadband expansion bay thing. Well they've took things this far so why not all the way? tRANSELEMENt- Beach Boys harmonies with Sonic Youth guitars, Kraftwerk beats and Faust weirdness! http://mp3.com/elementuk/
Sod it! At the end of the day, people should just listen to what they like and ignore all the trends, hype and even their friends opinions. Anyway, if you do believe in 'looking cool' by beating all your mates to listening to band 'x' then I can highly recommend checking out tRANSELEMENt who dump on 99.9% of contemporary acts from a great height! Avante Garde? Check. Punk? Check. Techno? Check. Good pop? Check. Electronica? Check. Psyche..... the list goes on!
I bought LinuxPPC 2000 from your company when it was released and I was very disappointed by it, especially your technical support . I sent a number of e-mails to your support address regarding my problems, none of which got answered. I think its quite sad that, unlike the x86 distros who have to cater for an almost unlimited number of configurations, you can't get a distribution out that works properly on a standard iMac- which is surely one of the first things you should test it on! So could anyone out there reading this tell me how to get X setup for greater depths than 8 bit under LinuxPPC 2000 (first release- don't know what Xfree- 3.something). Also, whatever happened to IBMs POP boards?