ok, thinking that you were correct, i tested the same query on both bing and google. oops your wrong. both SE gave the top 3 results exact. result #4 is equal to result #6
I have over 291K in unique visitors total every month over 17 different web site the organic search engine referrals break down somewhat different. Google: 53% Yahoo: 28% Bing: 14% others: the rest
Now the quality of the traffic is interesting: Google users leave the fastest Yahoo users spend the most time Bing users are in the middle
Repeat visitors Bing users, then Yahoo, then Google
the organic traffic that provides the most conversion to sales: Yahoo.
Paid traffic: the best conversion rates are bing users. the worst is google ( the roi is awful )
I love your comments. It proves ( at least in my eyes ) corporate evolution. In order to make money, you must improvise, improve and use less resources.
Google, the king of using less resources and improvising, is winning at this time. Microsoft, whom has the resources, is now investing in that side of the business, making themselves better and more productive.
for the end user, this is important, being able to choose whom you want to do your searches with is always a benefit. Now the real question is, the quality of the search results.
I would really enjoy if another search engine would join this field that was as innovative as Google, or had the resources of Microsoft, then a real good fight could happen, and the winner would be the end user.
Gee, I don't know what has happened in the development world, but it sure sounds like a lot of BS from sales people.
the way I recall is you had the idea, then made a features paper, then made the basic user interface on paper. after that, it was break it down into small parts and try to integrate properly.
by the time you did everything and kept it on paper, the guys that were ready to code could build it out in no time, perspective, most of the coders were in on all the steps, so they could guess-ta-mate how many hours per sheet.
it was a fun time, I guess they don't do it that way anymore.
Let's take this to the next level: A soldier is taught how to kill and effective at that talent. A soldier is also taught to take orders, and listen and obey a superior.
would I think any different with them than a street person, Yes, I Have a person that can do what is told, and knows enough to kill me. if motivated correctly, I can channel that killing energy into effective business practice.
a murderer, is someone that killed with his own motive, without ( in most cases ) reason, ( I don't consider the act of self defense as murder, it's survival with the outcome of death to the other side ). So am I going to treat or employ a murderer, maybe, but it's going to be in one of those jobs where the public are not met regularly.
yes they did the time, but that does not mean that I need to deal with them.
your younger days, Ha. hacking is fun for all ages. this really seems like a fun challenge, now where can i find some code.... oh let me open up a honey pot. that should get me something...
looks like I am going to have to learn a few things... I'm too old to code till 5am, I'll code till 1am
this also happened in Texas, the case is interesting, you have on one side the association that wrote the building codes, then on the other side is the government that basically cut and pasted into the law books.
the association depends on revenue from the book to produce qualified building codes, and on the other side is public safety.
Now I got to go and look up the out come of that case.
back in my day's of phreaking, it was the challenge of the hack. In this case I am hoping that the hacker will see that he's taken out the entire spam bot networks, make himself popular (and makes himself a target), then he get's a call from the NSA saying they are going to hire him for 400K a year. Bank! Bank! Bank!
While I hope what you say comes true, the problem with your argument is diversity of operating systems. given we can do a basic split of end users OS's... say 80% windows based the rest UNIX based. but then it's broken down by flavor ( red-hat, win2000, winme...)
so Mr. I-hate-the-internet-and-I-am-going-to-fix-it, please design it to be multi-flavored
rather simple solution, first off the railings could carry the melt-off and provide some basic structure heat, nothing extreme, all you need is +3 above freezing. then to do some real heating, use a microwave, that should be ample enough to get the water melting.
your post about grid is very interesting and very true.
the problem in the USA is the management and maintenance of the power lines
right now, based on the little knowledge I have, it looks like the power line sharing agreements between NJ and PA are the base line model for the rest of the USA.
the agreement goes something like this. both states produce electricity for there respective clients, both states help each other in keeping power lines running at the best level possible, both states tell each other when they will bring plants down for repairs, and swap electricity with each other.
what this does is a) keep power plants running at top performance b) keep power lines running at the best capacity c) keeps the user cost lower due to consistent updating ( money spent on making better energy or keeping the transmission lines at the most productive level )
what I like about both of those states is that they have power programs for alternative energy IE state sponsored, power company sponsored, and financial programs, last I understood, solar panel financing with state backing were at prime rate +2 under projects that would generate enough capacity to roll back the meter during peak usage hours.
Well it's most likely worth it ( the investment in people ). think about it, Google is trying to manage how much cycle consumption per request is happening, save a few in the right area, you no longer need that extra machine or... you have an energy savings. Looks like a long term payoff.
in the scope of what you are saying. I would think that people that are "slaves" to their credit card are more like indentured servants. they signed up on the bottom line knowing full well what was required of them.
if you don't read the contracts ( or at least do the research on the net ) do get those cards.
Wow, what world do you live in. This is all a business, if I discover something, I look to profit from it. Now if the government funds my project, I have to cut them in to the action. If I work for the government, and I discover something, let them profit, it secures my job.
If your statement was valid, then all the multinationals would have offices in the USA just to get to the governments discovery. ( this did happen from 1947 to 1956ish, when we started making the nazi's WW2 patents public, the russians would go and copy each filing daily).
I want my government to do R&D, then sell the results to the highest bidder.
I happen to agree with this poster about the dell laptops. I have had 3, the most current one I run is an Inspiron 8500 and it works very well. the others were also dell laptops.
I think the most important thing I do with my laptop is the cleaning, I bust it open every year, take out all the dust an 4 times a year I just remove the fan and blow that dust out.
Film's and music make very good profit's, but it's called creative accounting. It can be very attractive to invest in movies where a know amount of tax losses will occur over a set period of time. The music industry has a different set of rules, don't forget that a band gets an advance to produce the music ( venture capital investment ), the returns on that investment must be paid before the band gets a dime ( I seem to recall the band called Boston, and how they got screwed ).
I have invested in movie deals, some have dumped me a great load of money, some broke even, and some have gone ka-put.
For those that invest in music, I keep repeating these words, I the investor make money on part of the song and part of the album sales, you the artist make the most money going on tour and merchandise.
You my friend need to brows a used book store or a flea market. Sometimes it's not the need that gets filled, but the desire of fulfillment from finding the just perfect something that you want.
I was thinking something similar, what's to stop the processing of real nasty stuff into contained real nasty stuff. What I think this process is good for is confining pollution risk. does not mean that the risk is not there, it's just been reduced to a more manageable level.
at the same time, whats to stop them from using the resulted products over again. I think that it might be doable, but I'm not smart enough to know that.
Antennas covered: Just buy a tape measure, that will snap out in a heart beat, to the right length for transmitting and should have very minimal weight.
Server covered: somewhere in slashdot, there is a report of a full server on a 2" x 2" x 2" cube ( I think that's the size )
Deployment covered: spring loaded like a jack in the box
thruster and guidance: got an idea Electrodynamic tether using fishing line specifically fireline or spiderwire or spectra , if the tether can make the juice we have a chance at a small lightweight gyro and some sort of electric thrust
I know that I have exceeded 2 lbs, but this is slashdot, someone can reduce the weight.
>>the parking meter collections suddenly dropping to zero and the stores suddenly becoming ghost towns that someone might get suspicious.
it's government employees, they don't notice anything. and if they do, they file a report that no one reads.
>>Do you mind explaining the part about people not having access to the stores because only employees will have the hack, or something?
If you have ever owned a store front property, you know that parking and walk-by traffic is a major factor in the investment, car spots that are used by the same person all day keep people from getting to your store, and over time, the general public starts thinking "I won't go there, I can never find a spot". I saw it happen in a badly designed area, and every building owner on those 2 block would ask themselves why they did not have enough business. It's just a case of a cursed area. what started the change in that area was the suggestion of free employee parking 2 blocks away, which over 6 months helped a lot and improved the volume of business.
Well, I RTFA, and I have to admit, I liked the hack, I only hope that they do fix it, otherwise it will always be employee's of the stores that have parking and people shopping will not have access to the stores.
I really do hate it when people hog a meter all day, paying for daily parking in certain towns is just way out of control.
Now if the hack is really as simple as presented in the 60+ page report, the black market for this is huge, selling 999.00 cards for $50.00 a pop, I know of at least 100 buyers, and if marketed correctly, the entire business district will be a net loss for those towns whom don't execute a plan quickly.
Before anyone talks about the 3 million in savings, Please note, that's just the theft that the meter people were pocketing. What should happen is that the long term savings should increase by the labor savings, please see past example of easy-pass toll system of NY & NJ, where within 2 weeks rush-hour was reduced by 25 to 50 minutes and toll takers were reduced by 1 or 2 people per exit.
go the point. Had to think about that plane crash Andes mountains ( sometime between 1940's to 1950's ) to figure out frame references, wind and illusions.
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ok, thinking that you were correct, i tested the same query on both bing and google.
oops your wrong.
both SE gave the top 3 results exact.
result #4 is equal to result #6
Oh so you can check my results yourself:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1B3MOZA_enUS337US337&q=least+secure+os&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
http://www.bing.com/search?q=least+secure+os&go=&form=QBLH&scope=web&qs=n
sorry, this is not a bias.
find another
I thought that the search results from yahoo were generated from another vendor with some tuning? guess I was wrong.
I have over 291K in unique visitors total every month over 17 different web site
the organic search engine referrals break down somewhat different.
Google: 53%
Yahoo: 28%
Bing: 14%
others: the rest
Now the quality of the traffic is interesting:
Google users leave the fastest
Yahoo users spend the most time
Bing users are in the middle
Repeat visitors
Bing users, then Yahoo, then Google
the organic traffic that provides the most conversion to sales:
Yahoo.
Paid traffic:
the best conversion rates are bing users.
the worst is google ( the roi is awful )
I love your comments. It proves ( at least in my eyes ) corporate evolution. In order to make money, you must improvise, improve and use less resources.
Google, the king of using less resources and improvising, is winning at this time. Microsoft, whom has the resources, is now investing in that side of the business, making themselves better and more productive.
for the end user, this is important, being able to choose whom you want to do your searches with is always a benefit. Now the real question is, the quality of the search results.
I would really enjoy if another search engine would join this field that was as innovative as Google, or had the resources of Microsoft, then a real good fight could happen, and the winner would be the end user.
Gee, I don't know what has happened in the development world, but it sure sounds like a lot of BS from sales people.
the way I recall is you had the idea, then made a features paper, then made the basic user interface on paper. after that, it was break it down into small parts and try to integrate properly.
by the time you did everything and kept it on paper, the guys that were ready to code could build it out in no time, perspective, most of the coders were in on all the steps, so they could guess-ta-mate how many hours per sheet.
it was a fun time, I guess they don't do it that way anymore.
Let's take this to the next level:
A soldier is taught how to kill and effective at that talent.
A soldier is also taught to take orders, and listen and obey a superior.
would I think any different with them than a street person, Yes, I Have
a person that can do what is told, and knows enough to kill me. if motivated
correctly, I can channel that killing energy into effective business practice.
a murderer, is someone that killed with his own motive, without ( in most cases )
reason, ( I don't consider the act of self defense as murder, it's survival with
the outcome of death to the other side ). So am I going to treat or employ a murderer,
maybe, but it's going to be in one of those jobs where the public are not met regularly.
yes they did the time, but that does not mean that I need to deal with them.
your younger days, Ha. hacking is fun for all ages.
this really seems like a fun challenge, now where can i find some code....
oh let me open up a honey pot. that should get me something...
looks like I am going to have to learn a few things ...
I'm too old to code till 5am, I'll code till 1am
found something that points to what I was saying http://www.nyfairuse.org/law_is_copyrighted.xhtml
fun reading.
this also happened in Texas, the case is interesting, you have on one side the association that wrote the building codes, then on the other side is the government that basically cut and pasted into the law books.
the association depends on revenue from the book to produce qualified building codes, and on the other side is public safety.
Now I got to go and look up the out come of that case.
back in my day's of phreaking, it was the challenge of the hack. In this case I am hoping that the hacker will see that he's taken out the entire spam bot networks, make himself popular (and makes himself a target), then he get's a call from the NSA saying they are going to hire him for 400K a year.
Bank! Bank! Bank!
While I hope what you say comes true, the problem with your argument is diversity of operating systems. given we can do a basic split of end users OS's... say 80% windows based the rest UNIX based. but then it's broken down by flavor ( red-hat, win2000, winme...)
so Mr. I-hate-the-internet-and-I-am-going-to-fix-it, please design it to be multi-flavored
rather simple solution, first off the railings could carry the melt-off and provide some basic structure heat, nothing extreme, all you need is +3 above freezing. then to do some real heating, use a microwave, that should be ample enough to get the water melting.
your post about grid is very interesting and very true.
the problem in the USA is the management and maintenance of the power lines
right now, based on the little knowledge I have, it looks like
the power line sharing agreements between NJ and PA are the base line
model for the rest of the USA.
the agreement goes something like this. both states produce electricity for
there respective clients, both states help each other in keeping power lines
running at the best level possible, both states tell each other when they will
bring plants down for repairs, and swap electricity with each other.
what this does is a) keep power plants running at top performance b) keep
power lines running at the best capacity c) keeps the user cost lower due
to consistent updating ( money spent on making better energy or keeping the
transmission lines at the most productive level )
what I like about both of those states is that they have power programs for
alternative energy IE state sponsored, power company sponsored, and financial
programs, last I understood, solar panel financing with state backing were
at prime rate +2 under projects that would generate enough capacity to roll
back the meter during peak usage hours.
Well it's most likely worth it ( the investment in people ). think about it, Google is trying to manage how much cycle consumption per request is happening, save a few in the right area, you no longer need that extra machine or... you have an energy savings.
Looks like a long term payoff.
in the scope of what you are saying. I would think that people that are "slaves" to their credit card are more like indentured servants. they signed up on the bottom line knowing full well what was required of them.
if you don't read the contracts ( or at least do the research on the net ) do get those cards.
Wow, what world do you live in. This is all a business, if I discover something, I look to profit from it. Now if the government funds my project, I have to cut them in to the action. If I work for the government, and I discover something, let them profit, it secures my job.
If your statement was valid, then all the multinationals would have offices in the USA just to get to the governments discovery. ( this did happen from 1947 to 1956ish, when we started making the nazi's WW2 patents public, the russians would go and copy each filing daily).
I want my government to do R&D, then sell the results to the highest bidder.
GO DARPA!!!
I happen to agree with this poster about the dell laptops. I have had 3, the most current one I run is an Inspiron 8500 and it works very well. the others were also dell laptops.
I think the most important thing I do with my laptop is the cleaning, I bust it open every year, take out all the dust an 4 times a year I just remove the fan and blow that dust out.
it has survived decently well.
Film's and music make very good profit's, but it's called creative accounting. It can be very attractive to invest in movies where a know amount of tax losses will occur over a set period of time. The music industry has a different set of rules, don't forget that a band gets an advance to produce the music ( venture capital investment ), the returns on that investment must be paid before the band gets a dime ( I seem to recall the band called Boston, and how they got screwed ).
I have invested in movie deals, some have dumped me a great load of money, some broke even, and some have gone ka-put.
For those that invest in music, I keep repeating these words, I the investor make money on part of the song and part of the album sales, you the artist make the most money going on tour and merchandise.
You my friend need to brows a used book store or a flea market.
Sometimes it's not the need that gets filled, but the desire of
fulfillment from finding the just perfect something that you want.
Darwin effects will always rule!
I was thinking something similar, what's to stop the processing of real nasty
stuff into contained real nasty stuff. What I think this process is good for
is confining pollution risk. does not mean that the risk is not there, it's
just been reduced to a more manageable level.
at the same time, whats to stop them from using the resulted products over again.
I think that it might be doable, but I'm not smart enough to know that.
Antennas covered:
Just buy a tape measure, that will snap out in a heart beat, to the right length for transmitting and should have very minimal weight.
Server covered:
somewhere in slashdot, there is a report of a full server on a 2" x 2" x 2" cube ( I think that's the size )
Deployment covered:
spring loaded like a jack in the box
thruster and guidance: got an idea
Electrodynamic tether using fishing line specifically fireline or spiderwire or spectra , if the tether can make the juice we have a chance at a small lightweight gyro and some sort of electric thrust
I know that I have exceeded 2 lbs, but this is slashdot, someone can reduce the weight.
>>the parking meter collections suddenly dropping to zero and the stores suddenly becoming ghost towns that someone might get suspicious.
it's government employees, they don't notice anything. and if they do, they file a report that no one reads.
>>Do you mind explaining the part about people not having access to the stores because only employees will have the hack, or something?
If you have ever owned a store front property, you know that parking and walk-by traffic is a major factor in the investment, car spots that are used by the same person all day keep people from getting to your store, and over time, the general public starts thinking "I won't go there, I can never find a spot". I saw it happen in a badly designed area, and every building owner on those 2 block would ask themselves why they did not have enough business. It's just a case of a cursed area. what started the change in that area was the suggestion of free employee parking 2 blocks away, which over 6 months helped a lot and improved the volume of business.
Well, I RTFA, and I have to admit, I liked the hack, I only hope that they do fix it, otherwise it will always be employee's of the stores that have parking and people shopping will not have access to the stores.
I really do hate it when people hog a meter all day, paying for daily parking in certain towns is just way out of control.
Now if the hack is really as simple as presented in the 60+ page report, the black market for this is huge, selling 999.00 cards for $50.00 a pop, I know of at least 100 buyers, and if marketed correctly, the entire business district will be a net loss for those towns whom don't execute a plan quickly.
Before anyone talks about the 3 million in savings, Please note, that's just the theft that the meter people were pocketing. What should happen is that the long term savings should increase by the labor savings, please see past example of easy-pass toll system of NY & NJ, where within 2 weeks rush-hour was reduced by 25 to 50 minutes and toll takers were reduced by 1 or 2 people per exit.
go the point. Had to think about that plane crash Andes mountains ( sometime between 1940's to 1950's ) to figure out frame references, wind and illusions.