On more than one occasion, I've seen factual statements dismissed by ignorant posters and moderators.
On non tech/geek topics, I frequently see more-or-less the opposite, but equally bothersome effect... 'Factual' statements upmodded to the heavens because they match what the majority believes to be true. (Hence 'factual' in scare quotes, because the posts question never actually are.)
Think it doesn't exist? I can only provide anecdotal evidence
I think it does exist - both in the negative (downmodding) and positive (upmodding) forms. Several times over the years I've encountered and befriended people on other sites who have subsequently offered to mass upmod (via sockpuppet accounts) any of my comments I care to name.
It's just you. This has been going since at least the earliest Olympics I can recall. (The '72 summer Olympics, my dad bought our first color TV specifically to watch the Games.)
The strange thing is the farmers and small towns along the valley DO want the train. In many studies when HSR is built, small towns that get a trains stop actually see population and economic growth due to more people having access to the town.
That's what the studies show. Reality, as usual, is somewhat different. In reality, towns only get stations if and only if they're already significant destinations. Why? Because if you have too many stations to stop at, your HSR isn't very HS any more.
But of course people like you have to make this political
Of course, anyone who doesn't believe (as you seem to do) in any limits or requirements would think like that - it makes it easy to dismiss them as 'political', rather than reality.
Fun observation, the interstate highway system is probably the most expensive public works project in history. Should that have been considered a boondoggle? From wikipedia: "The initial cost estimate for the system was $25 billion over 12 years; it ended up costing $114 billion (adjusted for inflation, $425 billion in 2006 dollars) and took 35 years."
Of course, you fail to mention that the increase in time and cost was the result of the system ending up many times larger than intended. It's inconvenient to your argument to introduce reality in place of Big Scary Numbers. (It's also amusing as hell when you've accused others of being political.)
If I remember my history correctly, the US government gave the train Barons the land and I think subsidizing them.
The US Government did give the land for the railroad and every other section adjacent to the railroad to the railroad companies - in exchange for reduced cost transport (freight and passenger) for government business. Considering that the land that the government kept was essentially valueless without transport access, it was a pretty good deal for both sides.
Otherwise, which Yahoo! services are so valuable to make it worth adding another redundant search engine to the ones they already have? Hotjobs? Yahoo! Groups? Which ones?
Yahoo! Groups are widely used, as is Yahoo! mail. It's finance pages are widely used as well.
But one of the real jewels in their crown, and one most people don't associate with Yahoo - is Flickr. There's a huge community there, and it's not only one of the most powerful and fully featured photosharing sites... There's an extensive community of discussion boards as well. (These are nearly unique among the major photosharing sites AFAIK.)
Also as an FYI the other reason to swirl is to observe the viscosity of the rivulets of wine running down the glass after you've stopped swirling. The slower and fatter the rivulets the more sugar still remains in the wine. ie. it's stickier so it moves more slowly.
Not quite. That phenomena is known as the 'legs of wine' or 'tears of wine', and it's related to the wine's alcohol content not it's sugar content.
The unwise, reactionary, direction-less types who tend to attach themselves to any major movement are the biggest problem the Occupiers currently have.
Yep. Because the 'occupy' movement is quite thoroughly unable or unwilling to deal with them - thoughtful people are asking why. Not so thoughtful people are blaming the media.
Do you not notice how the media reports with glee the rapes, murders, etc. that occur on the Occupied territory?
Why shouldn't they? That the 'occupy' movement can arrange for generators to recharge their smartphones and ad hoc wireless access points, but not for safety and security patrols in their encampments is very telling about their priorities.
There are a great deal of uncertainties and with a 10 or 15 minutes control lag on a piece of equipment that has traveled between worlds people can count on nothing.
Since we aren't controlling remotely - control lag is utterly irrelevant.
Especially as this is only the second rover to have this method of landing.
Depending on how you count, it's either the first (with winches) or the third (stop-and-drop). You've forgotten about Sojourner.
And if you are still so full of... ahem... confidence, look at the Russian mars probe that didn't even make it out of orbit. The Russians have more time in space than the Americans.
If I wanted to look at something utterly irrelevant I'd google for "teens in bikinis", that's much more pleasant to look at. And the Russians having more 'time in space' (whatever that means), equally irrelevant.
But I personally wouldn't take it for granted like you and others seem to.
If I took it for granted, you'd have a point. But you have neither a point, not a clue.
"'What's new is that now the perception war occurs simultaneously with the physical struggle. There's almost parity,' writes Andrew Sprung. 'You have a truncheon or gun, I have a camera. You inflict pain, I inflict infamy.'"
No, what you inflict is spin - because all you have to is show a carefully focused video showing the police swinging their truncheons or spraying pepper spray, and those who believe video bites represent the entire truth will defend your interpretation, and forward it, and 'like' it, etc... You'll hang 'em in the court of public opinion, but that's much more important than reality.
Anyone who offers a sale below the cost of manufacture is seriously lacking in business sense.
Precisely this. Many posters are trying to blame Groupon - but at the end of the day, the fact is that regardless of Groupon's sales tactics, she made a horribly stupid business decision. One that anyone with intelligence should have known was stupid in advance because two minutes with the back of an envelope would have revealed that fact. This is why most businesses fail - running a business is much harder than most people think.
At this stage there is only ONE cool thing that this rover needs to do. And that is land safely on the surface of Mars. No mean feat considering how complex this new landing system is. Retro/landing rockets, hovering, winching down, etc. etc. etc.
It's actually not all that much more complex or risky than the system used to land the previous two rovers. Seriously, I'm getting tired of people flapping about as if this were some totally new thing - because it isn't. Every landing method has it's flaws and risks, people forget this about the previous rovers because they were successful.
And honestly, you want to look at the twitch muscle gene? How about height and build? You have to paint a picture that predicts accurately a child's build at 18. There is no one gene.
Height, build, reflexes, eyesight, cognitive abilities... There's a lot that goes into being good (or bad) at sports.
So to be clear, I am not universally in favor of "blame the victim".
Not universally, no.
I hear of more car-pedestrian accidents involving people who are willingly unable to hear than involving people who are actually blind, dear, or hard of hearing.
It's telling that you leave out a third, major, category - accidents in which the pedestrians are not at fault at all.
'Our only chance of long-term survival is not to remain lurking on planet Earth, but to spread out into space.'
And the sun will rise in the east, fire is hot, ice is cold, and water is wet. Got any other obviousness to impart to us Dr Hawking?
Seriously, it's pretty widely known that the only way to survive a variety of extinction level events is to get off this rock in a manner such that off-rock locations are completely self sufficient and independent of the rock. But doing so is a century or more off at best.
A lot of pedestrians are walking around listening to their music at full-blast and have no chance of hearing the car coming anyways. The fault does not belong to the car in that situation.
True, except for the 'lot of pedestrians' (at least around here) and for all the situations in which the pedestrians aren't wearing headphones.
Seriously, can we stop with the highly moderated "blame the victim" posts?
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On non tech/geek topics, I frequently see more-or-less the opposite, but equally bothersome effect... 'Factual' statements upmodded to the heavens because they match what the majority believes to be true. (Hence 'factual' in scare quotes, because the posts question never actually are.)
I think it does exist - both in the negative (downmodding) and positive (upmodding) forms. Several times over the years I've encountered and befriended people on other sites who have subsequently offered to mass upmod (via sockpuppet accounts) any of my comments I care to name.
Did you even read what you wrote? Because what you just said is "no, they don't need to make sure before sending a missile".
While it will get you modded insightful, this is irrelevant to the first portion of your message.
Because 40 years ago, the technology and ability to search for fuel cask were all but non-existent. This is no longer true.
Well, I would if they were *officially* kept... :) But that's also why I said 'most'. :) ;)
It's just you. This has been going since at least the earliest Olympics I can recall. (The '72 summer Olympics, my dad bought our first color TV specifically to watch the Games.)
Most corporate propriety information is only 'spicy' to accountants, lawyers, and actuaries.
That's what the studies show. Reality, as usual, is somewhat different. In reality, towns only get stations if and only if they're already significant destinations. Why? Because if you have too many stations to stop at, your HSR isn't very HS any more.
Of course, anyone who doesn't believe (as you seem to do) in any limits or requirements would think like that - it makes it easy to dismiss them as 'political', rather than reality.
Of course, you fail to mention that the increase in time and cost was the result of the system ending up many times larger than intended. It's inconvenient to your argument to introduce reality in place of Big Scary Numbers. (It's also amusing as hell when you've accused others of being political.)
The US Government did give the land for the railroad and every other section adjacent to the railroad to the railroad companies - in exchange for reduced cost transport (freight and passenger) for government business. Considering that the land that the government kept was essentially valueless without transport access, it was a pretty good deal for both sides.
No need. There was more than enough of it in your post.
Yahoo! Groups are widely used, as is Yahoo! mail. It's finance pages are widely used as well.
But one of the real jewels in their crown, and one most people don't associate with Yahoo - is Flickr. There's a huge community there, and it's not only one of the most powerful and fully featured photosharing sites... There's an extensive community of discussion boards as well. (These are nearly unique among the major photosharing sites AFAIK.)
Since the tears aren't condensed vapors, you're wrong.
In this case, no. The presence or absence of sugar is irrelevant to the formation of 'tears'.
Not quite. That phenomena is known as the 'legs of wine' or 'tears of wine', and it's related to the wine's alcohol content not it's sugar content.
Yep. Because the 'occupy' movement is quite thoroughly unable or unwilling to deal with them - thoughtful people are asking why. Not so thoughtful people are blaming the media.
Why shouldn't they? That the 'occupy' movement can arrange for generators to recharge their smartphones and ad hoc wireless access points, but not for safety and security patrols in their encampments is very telling about their priorities.
Since we aren't controlling remotely - control lag is utterly irrelevant.
Depending on how you count, it's either the first (with winches) or the third (stop-and-drop). You've forgotten about Sojourner.
If I wanted to look at something utterly irrelevant I'd google for "teens in bikinis", that's much more pleasant to look at. And the Russians having more 'time in space' (whatever that means), equally irrelevant.
If I took it for granted, you'd have a point. But you have neither a point, not a clue.
From the summary:
"'What's new is that now the perception war occurs simultaneously with the physical struggle. There's almost parity,' writes Andrew Sprung. 'You have a truncheon or gun, I have a camera. You inflict pain, I inflict infamy.'"
No, what you inflict is spin - because all you have to is show a carefully focused video showing the police swinging their truncheons or spraying pepper spray, and those who believe video bites represent the entire truth will defend your interpretation, and forward it, and 'like' it, etc... You'll hang 'em in the court of public opinion, but that's much more important than reality.
Precisely this. Many posters are trying to blame Groupon - but at the end of the day, the fact is that regardless of Groupon's sales tactics, she made a horribly stupid business decision. One that anyone with intelligence should have known was stupid in advance because two minutes with the back of an envelope would have revealed that fact. This is why most businesses fail - running a business is much harder than most people think.
It's actually not all that much more complex or risky than the system used to land the previous two rovers. Seriously, I'm getting tired of people flapping about as if this were some totally new thing - because it isn't. Every landing method has it's flaws and risks, people forget this about the previous rovers because they were successful.
Height, build, reflexes, eyesight, cognitive abilities... There's a lot that goes into being good (or bad) at sports.
[disclaimer: I own and frequently use an RV.]
Well, the [RV] park system I have membership in doesn't seem to have any problems or performance issues with their wireless networks.
Not universally, no.
It's telling that you leave out a third, major, category - accidents in which the pedestrians are not at fault at all.
And the sun will rise in the east, fire is hot, ice is cold, and water is wet. Got any other obviousness to impart to us Dr Hawking?
Seriously, it's pretty widely known that the only way to survive a variety of extinction level events is to get off this rock in a manner such that off-rock locations are completely self sufficient and independent of the rock. But doing so is a century or more off at best.
I was thinking much the same thing. Plus, $5k for a scooter? WTF? Either the OP has more money than sense, or no common sense whatsoever.
True, except for the 'lot of pedestrians' (at least around here) and for all the situations in which the pedestrians aren't wearing headphones.
Seriously, can we stop with the highly moderated "blame the victim" posts?