They aren't actually - that's the really strange thing. In talking with people I know who are left there - they pay them 60,000 rupees a month - that's about 1200-1300 US dollars. They feed them, give them a clothing allowance, and house them (yes this is a relatively well known software firm - they'll even finance your car if you live there) - none of which was ever offered to me in the US.
They take longer to find and write solutions as well.
A good chunk of places I've visited around the world you still see signs in miles, and cars with gauges in mph. Grocery stores are kinda funny - in the UK you see a lot of both (things measured in metric or SI or both), but the gas station outside everything is metric.
Actually the value of a C64 in its original spec would deflate since 64k of memory is far cheaper today than it was in 1982 - same with all of its custom chips since you could put all of them in one chip these days and save even more money. It wouldn't surprise me if you could make one for 5-10 dollars in parts.
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You'll be crying when you rebuild that raid and two disks fail at the same time (happened to me). No - raid isn't a backup solution.
The masses have spoken - as long as they have money to spend on such items - as people get laid off because of their jobs moving overseas I doubt this trend will continue. Plus I really don't think we are saving all that much on prices in stores.
And its not all black and white either - I bought a Swiss army knife the other day - says its made in Switzerland for $12 - sitting next to a very cheap Chinese knockoff for $9 - which I'm willing to bet cost 10 cents to make. The prices here haven't come down, just profits have gone up for the people marketing this stuff which means more profit.
Picked up a maglite flashlight - says its made in the USA for $14 - sitting next to a cheap Chinese one for $5. On one hand you can use the maglite to beat people with, hammer nails into the wall with and will still function as a flashlight, on the other hand the Chinese one is probably good for this years camping season before the switch breaks.
Plus prices around the world are different. So I'd be willing to work for $1200 a month (60,000 rupees - which is what the Indian's who replaced me make apparently), but prices need to be adjusted in the USA first - like they are in India.
All the Indian co-workers I've ever dealt with don't have any of these attributes. They would go as far as lieing to me to tell me work had been done and was checked, when they weren't anywhere close simply because they didn't want to appear to have failed (even when it would have been perfectly fine to tell me they weren't done and needed help!).
It gets better - my job was sent to India - and from what I was told they hired 12 people (in India) to replace 2 people in the USA (me and a co-worker).
Long ago - as someone who worked in a glass shop (in accounting) - no gravel roads aren't all that great unless you like replacing glass a lot or supporting your local glass shops.
Sure - there are people who will reply they've lived down gravel roads all their life and never had glass problems, but seriously - I created ran reports and found that well over 80% of our auto-glass business came from rural residents who lived down - gravel roads - I can still remember the most replaced parts too DW-1099 (Ford F series windshield) and DW-1117 (might be wrong on this part - its been ages, but its supposed to be a Chevrolet C series pickup truck windshield) - we had literally hundreds of these parts in stock at any one time and we made sure delivery trucks always brought more and more.
Anyhow from what I could tell many of these windshields were damaged by flying debris, and stress on the vehicles themselves.
The drives your talking about are probably the 8050 quad density drive series (and the SFD-1001 - which was for the C64)) - 1 megabyte as I recall. Two problems with them - a) they were hard to buy and b) quad density disks are impossible to find (you can't even use pc high density disks with them). Still the one I saw demo'd was incredibly quick.
1541 used a 300 baud serial interface to the pc itself. In non burst mode programs took forever and a day to load or save - it wasn't entirely uncommon for a 15-20 minute load time.
Still it was light years faster than tape (which was less than 50 baud).
Yup - C64 was a complete hack, but you couldn't beat it for the price. For about 800-900 dollars you could have the PC and the 1541, where Apple ][ of the same vintage was 1500$+ with no accessories at all.
To do that you'd have to have a serial adapter as well - so where do you draw the line?
By definition even - the 1541 (to load the program for those who don't know) isn't original C64 equipment (I couldn't even get one when I bought my C64 new - had to use tapes:)).
Yeah - a completely stock C64 is pretty hard to use...
Friend at Intel corp said once - that software we are running will be really impressive once they catch up to the hardware. I think the Commodore 64 really goes to show what can be done on a really minimal environment.
Sadly every security vulnerability on the products I've worked on were found after shipping in code that was reviewed (and not only that - sometimes very obvious bugs - like treating strings as fixed values, and not checking or sanitizing inputs).
So I guess they either have to be done right, or they aren't all that useful.
I thought benders game was hillarious, but I think it probably appealed to people who had played AD&D sometime in their life and people who were futurama fans.
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They aren't actually - that's the really strange thing. In talking with people I know who are left there - they pay them 60,000 rupees a month - that's about 1200-1300 US dollars. They feed them, give them a clothing allowance, and house them (yes this is a relatively well known software firm - they'll even finance your car if you live there) - none of which was ever offered to me in the US.
They take longer to find and write solutions as well.
So no - I don't see where the cost savings are.
A good chunk of places I've visited around the world you still see signs in miles, and cars with gauges in mph. Grocery stores are kinda funny - in the UK you see a lot of both (things measured in metric or SI or both), but the gas station outside everything is metric.
Actually the value of a C64 in its original spec would deflate since 64k of memory is far cheaper today than it was in 1982 - same with all of its custom chips since you could put all of them in one chip these days and save even more money. It wouldn't surprise me if you could make one for 5-10 dollars in parts.
You'll be crying when you rebuild that raid and two disks fail at the same time (happened to me). No - raid isn't a backup solution.
The masses have spoken - as long as they have money to spend on such items - as people get laid off because of their jobs moving overseas I doubt this trend will continue. Plus I really don't think we are saving all that much on prices in stores.
And its not all black and white either - I bought a Swiss army knife the other day - says its made in Switzerland for $12 - sitting next to a very cheap Chinese knockoff for $9 - which I'm willing to bet cost 10 cents to make. The prices here haven't come down, just profits have gone up for the people marketing this stuff which means more profit.
Picked up a maglite flashlight - says its made in the USA for $14 - sitting next to a cheap Chinese one for $5. On one hand you can use the maglite to beat people with, hammer nails into the wall with and will still function as a flashlight, on the other hand the Chinese one is probably good for this years camping season before the switch breaks.
Plus prices around the world are different. So I'd be willing to work for $1200 a month (60,000 rupees - which is what the Indian's who replaced me make apparently), but prices need to be adjusted in the USA first - like they are in India.
All the Indian co-workers I've ever dealt with don't have any of these attributes. They would go as far as lieing to me to tell me work had been done and was checked, when they weren't anywhere close simply because they didn't want to appear to have failed (even when it would have been perfectly fine to tell me they weren't done and needed help!).
It gets better - my job was sent to India - and from what I was told they hired 12 people (in India) to replace 2 people in the USA (me and a co-worker).
St. Croix Falls, Hudson and New Richmond Wisconsin if your curious - I'd say it was pretty equal.
Long ago - as someone who worked in a glass shop (in accounting) - no gravel roads aren't all that great unless you like replacing glass a lot or supporting your local glass shops.
Sure - there are people who will reply they've lived down gravel roads all their life and never had glass problems, but seriously - I created ran reports and found that well over 80% of our auto-glass business came from rural residents who lived down - gravel roads - I can still remember the most replaced parts too DW-1099 (Ford F series windshield) and DW-1117 (might be wrong on this part - its been ages, but its supposed to be a Chevrolet C series pickup truck windshield) - we had literally hundreds of these parts in stock at any one time and we made sure delivery trucks always brought more and more.
Anyhow from what I could tell many of these windshields were damaged by flying debris, and stress on the vehicles themselves.
True, but that wasn't the stock behavior of the drive, it wasn't until much later after the launch of the 1541 that those sorts of tools arrived.
Ahh I had no idea - +rep if I could :).
And Commodore never made an rs232 adapter either ;).
Not all companies back then developed directly on the C64 either.
There were dev tools for the PC for the C64 for example.
I don't think its cheating to use a bigger PC to develop a complex app for a smaller machine ;).
The drives your talking about are probably the 8050 quad density drive series (and the SFD-1001 - which was for the C64)) - 1 megabyte as I recall. Two problems with them - a) they were hard to buy and b) quad density disks are impossible to find (you can't even use pc high density disks with them). Still the one I saw demo'd was incredibly quick.
1541 used a 300 baud serial interface to the pc itself. In non burst mode programs took forever and a day to load or save - it wasn't entirely uncommon for a 15-20 minute load time.
Still it was light years faster than tape (which was less than 50 baud).
Yup - C64 was a complete hack, but you couldn't beat it for the price. For about 800-900 dollars you could have the PC and the 1541, where Apple ][ of the same vintage was 1500$+ with no accessories at all.
To do that you'd have to have a serial adapter as well - so where do you draw the line?
By definition even - the 1541 (to load the program for those who don't know) isn't original C64 equipment (I couldn't even get one when I bought my C64 new - had to use tapes :)).
Yeah - a completely stock C64 is pretty hard to use...
Where does it say this? Read the article - he's using a standard ethernet connection.
Friend at Intel corp said once - that software we are running will be really impressive once they catch up to the hardware. I think the Commodore 64 really goes to show what can be done on a really minimal environment.
Sadly every security vulnerability on the products I've worked on were found after shipping in code that was reviewed (and not only that - sometimes very obvious bugs - like treating strings as fixed values, and not checking or sanitizing inputs).
So I guess they either have to be done right, or they aren't all that useful.
...likes chili?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/feb/08/development.topstories3
You were saying? China has international aid groups all over the second and third world.
Apparently thats Kevin Burn's cat mittens:
http://www.massively.com/2009/03/04/a-decade-of-norrath-qanda-with-everquests-kevin-burns/
I thought benders game was hillarious, but I think it probably appealed to people who had played AD&D sometime in their life and people who were futurama fans.
I played this a while back and it totally sucked.
They already make you pay taxes on it ;).
I dunno - the demo I saw - even if it was half as good its a major leap forward in motion control and capture.